Is kpop actually good or is it just a meme

[James Cooper]

Is kpop actually good or is it just a meme

[James Rodriguez]

if you like well produced pop music you'll probably like kpop
if you like cute girls and boys you'll probably like kpop
if you like really impressive choreography in music performances you'll probably like kpop

[Dylan Sanchez]

There's decent mainstream K-Pop out there mostly made by SM's flagship artists (Exo, SHINee, Red Velvet) and by Big Bang, the Chang Thunderwangs of K-Pop. But most K-Pop is watered down version of whatever shit is popular on US radio because they steal our producers (aka the Scandis who muck the radio up.)
There's not a lot of substance to be found because it's so manufactured for wide appeal to saesangs and uncle fans (aka K-Pop general who doesn't give a shit about the music, just the waifus.)

[Cooper Nguyen]

This

[Jack James]

>if you like cute girls and boys you'll probably like kpop
This pretty much sums it up. Not much musically but makes it up visually.

[Brody Barnes]

I've always wondered it this too, OP. I just assumed that most people here were fapping since I doubt they can understand what's being sung and it's not like the music is exactly top-tier.

[Kevin Rogers]

>mostly made by SM
yikes, no

[Wyatt Ramirez]

Name a label that has had more quality hits

[Jeremiah Taylor]

[whispers] JYP

[Isaiah Hall]

That's just not true though, although I fuck with a lot of JYP artists
rip Miss A

[Colton Ross]

I just recently got a bit into KPop
Albums are almost universally shit and full of filler
There are some singles that are legitimately great though, but it's still just Pop and if you don't like anything about western pop music you won't dig KPop either.
I guess just listen to one of the KPop playlists on Spotify (there's a couple official ones) or something and jack off to the videos like everyone else does

[Levi Walker]

It's good for your penis

[Zachary Ward]

Are people who are generally into KPOP know the language or at least try to?

[Dominic Lewis]

No, the lyrics are absolute garbage going off the translation, so no one's missing out if the don't know Korean. If anything they're sparing themselves.
Just look at the Engrish like "never don't mind about a thing" that pops up. It's all style over substance—candy music.

[Carson Garcia]

it's as good as pop music

one of the positive things about it is that you can't understand
a lot of people learn how to read hangul tho, it can be done in less than a day

[Elijah Hall]

Twice is superior K-pop
youtube.com/watch?v=fK7-Uie6N-E

[Nathaniel Davis]

It's a meme. Holy shit. Can't believe anyone actually listens to that shit

[Isaac Nelson]

chill

[William Perry]

...

[Samuel Ortiz]

there's plenty good kpop out there
stellar, exid, after school, orange caramel, fx and so on and forth

in the end it's just pop music tho

[Jaxon Bennett]

yes im into kpop for the music not the cute boys

[Gabriel Murphy]

but the music IS top tier
youtube.com/watch?v=9BwLMq7Wn2I
youtube.com/watch?v=QpqdegzWWZ4
youtube.com/watch?v=EoySmwO7QHg

[Nathan Stewart]

ah and immediately the sm stan shows up

[Evan Peterson]

Nothing wrong with pop music. Everything you listen to is derived from it. Is Radiohead and AnCo actually good or is it just a meme?

[Liam Williams]

I would say Radiohead doesn't quite fall under pop music just like Hyukoh isn't kpop even though their songs always top the charts, is Kendrick a pop artist?

[Hunter Collins]

I would say Kid A is not pop music
Kendrick is

>proceeds to post shit tier music
youtube.com/watch?v=45VXFTSkJHs
youtube.com/watch?v=5qBicr0IwzI
youtube.com/watch?v=OetMCVIoLdw

[Mason Campbell]

good groups always die

[Jaxon Wright]

Are there any K-pop musicians that you would find worth listening to without the fluff, the videos and shit?

[Nathaniel Walker]

What is the difference between J-Pop and K-Pop besides the nationalities?

[Dylan Bailey]

kpop singers don't sound like 8 year olds

[Zachary Green]

What's some good older K-pop?

[Kayden Hernandez]

just listen to fx

[Jayden Ramirez]

Humble was #1 on the Billboard chart so I suppose it depends on if you think of pop as a specific thing or simply whatever's popular. Pop music adopted rock's verse-chorus structure so the differences were superficial before Radiohead even formed, and that's where they diverged from.

[Justin Roberts]

jpop idol groups suck too much, the music is unlistenable(ex: AKB48). jpop has a lot more non idol stuff tho and it sounds pretty good, like Frederic, Mondo Grosso, Gen Hoshino, etc.

Japan has it's own underground idol scene where the music does not suck, but technically it's NOT jpop because it's underground music.

[Ayden Long]

kpop is way more influenced by the west, Koreans try to make it international but the japs are doing their own thing

[Gavin Moore]

Japanese pop music has more subcultures and a wider variety in sound, Korean pop music is very homogenised but the budget is much higher

youtube.com/watch?v=rjVT-jsiPnw
youtube.com/watch?v=kleTli7aTRo
youtube.com/watch?v=2x5_nPpcQcc
youtube.com/watch?v=EiCoWlidHsQ

[Nolan Gonzalez]

Keyakizaka46 is great though
youtube.com/watch?v=awGVuRoxrkw

[Samuel Taylor]

Korean music has subcultures and a wide variety of sound, you've probably just not bothered delving into their scene. Its difficult, because of the language barrier (they use their own popular websites and its fucking hard searching shit in hangeul sometimes)

But please don't generalise. Weabs on this website always compared Japan and Korea, but they only ever care enough to delve into Japanese media, not Korean but then they make assumptions about Korean

[Grayson Sanchez]

i'm talking specifically about the pop music scene - i'm aware of a number of the other things happening in Korea, but because i'm answering a question about "K-pop" and "J-pop" i'm discussing what is meant by those specific terms

[Aaron Hernandez]

Seo Taiji

youtube.com/watch?v=y8em1w3KIFA

Or you mean trot music? idk much about that

[Lucas Gray]

Why was he so violent with his shirt!

[Jason Miller]

This is what fagshitters actually think.

[Brayden Ramirez]

Okay so those groups that you posted, that are barely managing 500k views between all of them, are considered mainstream "J-pop" in the same league as Nogi or AKB and should be used as evidence that J-pop is more diverse than K-pop? I chuckled a bit.

But okay, here are four links of K-pop groups that have a distinctive sound from one another.

youtube.com/watch?v=Lxfl8LRab_I
youtube.com/watch?v=PYGODWJgR-c
youtube.com/watch?v=VdqpTN4SKXg
youtube.com/watch?v=8hVxASAMaxw

[Joshua Morris]

I'm Korean and I can safely say kpop is not good at all. So please keep away from it. Never give it a chance.

[Robert Myers]

gooks know nothing

[Julian Johnson]

>should be used as evidence that J-pop is more diverse than K-pop?
yes
please show me one K-pop group that collaborates with harsh noise bands, incorporates polyrhythm or complex time signatures, or can make something longer than 8 minutes sound constantly engaging
the most far-out thing you've managed here is that edgy pop-rock number

[Jaxson Robinson]

The only decent genre to come out of Asia is noise

[Angel Bailey]

You clearly haven't heard about our revolutionary guys
youtu.be/1oxOnWws0UQ

[Parker Bailey]

forgot this youtu.be/CiGrgfoUlqM

[Lincoln Fisher]

Yes we know Japanese music is superior
The thread is wether Kpop has any merit

[Hudson Campbell]

Meant to reply to this

[Mason Ross]

why am i being made to listen to this four-chord tropical house

[Dominic Walker]

i was answering the question in until someone took offense

[Jose Bailey]

Cringe do asians have any originality

[James Garcia]

listen and see
>2011
youtu.be/zYoYoBtLqOY
youtu.be/kowfLIRpQaU
youtu.be/Fzr2Nv8NTEE
youtu.be/1OSmITtaX3o
youtu.be/QnAhnxmSNFw
youtu.be/bw9CALKOvAI
youtu.be/z-rftpZ7kCY
youtu.be/QN6KVm5cRWw
youtu.be/dA9niwM2r9Q
youtu.be/f_iQRO5BdCM

>2012
youtu.be/n8I8QGFA1oM
youtu.be/qsWl1--Niyg
youtu.be/0Z9R57maGvc
youtu.be/g0XpNvLWimo
youtu.be/ShVRP09NCO4
youtu.be/MCEcWcIww5k
youtu.be/YXZ19CvCmto
youtu.be/0tVe-60aQ5Q
youtu.be/oL2AlXWVbKU

>2013
youtu.be/fwN_Axs7pL4
youtu.be/nQm_9nbY_7U
youtu.be/xF3MC8PWgJE
youtu.be/Qk52ypnGs68
youtu.be/_vHw17-zFa4
youtu.be/7jtMbtq8wT0
youtu.be/NPqtL1dtrlA
youtu.be/6LtVvmSYoN0
youtu.be/h-3V0FwPzes

>2014
youtu.be/hfXZ6ydgZyo
youtu.be/Med2XipHJJM
youtu.be/qEYOyZVWlzs
youtu.be/NCQpzHPYRUc
youtu.be/oTXCgR93zC8
youtu.be/q_eo5j5sib8
youtu.be/6tK0XUQQ3wA
youtu.be/iv-8-EgPEY0
youtu.be/wqiEAod0LYI
youtu.be/Q33SoblaZbU
youtu.be/YpatVVhT-Io

>2015
youtu.be/glXgSSOKlls
youtu.be/1nCLBTmjJBY
youtu.be/pOmTdFpIDX8
youtu.be/1pBgMBBsv4k
youtu.be/egqDPipqIAg
youtu.be/zO9RzrhYR-I
youtu.be/FYqfHaAkplw
youtu.be/zbnRfBGjeaw
youtu.be/ui_YY5mJZT4

>2016
youtu.be/LNZKqhXCv5c
youtu.be/0VKcLPdY9lI
youtu.be/bAicySTsvLo
youtu.be/LJVUjmNMF8c
youtu.be/GoV7B9K23ts
youtu.be/c7rCyll5AeY
youtu.be/VSYoDqkbzzg
youtu.be/0KGHiRo2apM
youtu.be/bwmSjveL3Lc

>2017
youtu.be/rJYDix4FttA
youtu.be/i1n_1jrUEjU
youtu.be/7cjZFjWBZI0
youtu.be/Amq-qlqbjYA
youtu.be/WyiIGEHQP8o
youtu.be/DojqyA3Ma2k
youtu.be/41Dp7Q-SM1Y
youtu.be/8A2t_tAjMz8

[Elijah Roberts]

because our guys are the topp doggs

[Julian Powell]

you both posted medicore shit. fucking soft eared plebs.

now this is the stuff

[Sebastian Bailey]

cheer up baby ~~ cheer up baby ~~ oikakete

[Angel Johnson]

>only listening to singles

[Brandon Martinez]

>Singles
Are you daft?

[Asher Perry]

It’s actually really good.

[Nathan Torres]

those are music videos, not singles

[Gavin Nguyen]

sg wannabe

[Asher Fisher]

It's a bit of both, I used to be really into it as a teen but I got burnout having to go through so much shit to find the gold especially with new group debuting every week or whatever

[Jeremiah Adams]

says the fucking mongrel cuck where are you from?

[Zachary Reed]

is Korean even easy to learn? Looks hard.

[Charles James]

brazil

[Aiden Young]

the language is hard but the alphabet is easy, it was literally made to be easy

>Before the creation of hangul, people in Korea (known as Joseon at the time) primarily wrote using Classical Chinese alongside native phonetic writing systems that predate hangul by hundreds of years, including idu, hyangchal, gugyeol, and gakpil. However, due to the fundamental differences between the Korean and Chinese languages, and the large number of characters needed to be learned, there was much difficulty in learning how to write using Chinese characters for the lower classes, who often didn't have the privilege of education. To assuage this problem, King Sejong created the unique alphabet known as hangul to promote literacy among the common people.

[Tyler Bailey]

lmao fucking shitskin monkey

[Caleb Foster]

stfu kim

[Easton Long]

NO IT SUCKS

FUCK IT

FUCK

[Lincoln Ward]

Stupid ass SM dicksuckin ass nigga

[Asher Walker]

Dumbass nigga

[Ryan Campbell]

huh you learn something new everyday. Thanks user that was appreciated. it's language I want to learn one day for my career

[Jaxson Thomas]

People act like it is so much different from western pop, but it isn't, If you enjoy pop, yeah, it can be pretty good, but you gotta find what sort of pop music you like, electro? dance? with a touch of RnB? Ballads? A bit of Jazz? Folk?

[Jacob Ramirez]

yeah even worse, everyone knows the best songs are the b-sides which get no MV's

[Brayden Price]

>all girl groups

you're missing out man