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Why do people think being in the military is so noble? They invade other countries

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Because they risk their lives in countries with actual danger in them just so you can bitch about your trigger words and hide from reality in your god damn safe spaces. Even if you don't agree with the goals of the military at large, show some respect for the individual troops who have to carry that shit out you unappreciative piece of fuck. There is not a discussion about whether or not you should have respect for your troops, they are the only reason you are allowed to be such a massive pussy.

It's mostly a vehicle for virtue signalling amongst civilians. True nobility is getting in, doing good things, and getting out. The "Thanks for your service" shit is the same tier as sending someone a "Get well soon" card. It's mostly superficial sociopolitics.

op here, I'm a veteran.

I think there's a problem with people enlisting at a young age, doing the bidding of paid politicians without any real understanding of what they are participating and supporting.

There's a lot of blind patriotism going on.

it can be a noble decision depends on the person but i dont think you can be immoral just for joining the military, just ignorant, as the country orchestrating the military to fight wars is likely doing so for corrupt reasons.

5 year Marine Corps veteran here. There are shit bags in the military. Being in the military doesn't mean you are a good person. However until you leave your mom's basement and learn what most people in the military have sacrificed you willnever understand shit so go put on your fedora and jerk off to my little pony porn some more.

We're making the world safe for niggers.

nigga, i did it for the benefits. my whole family the typical trope. Gang infested neighborhood, no future where i was. got some decent advice after i survived 4 years of their marine corps bull fucking shit. i went to college, got undergrad degree, grad degree, off that shit. got a career and all that. my goal was very specific, now i rent homes and help people out.

to kill shit... 11 year vet

I'm not suggesting joining is immoral,I'm saying we can't treat it as an entity that can do no wrong.
I think most people go in with good intentions, but most of them aren't orchestrating the wars.

Typical Marin Crop. You forgot to read my second post.

So you're saying we're like the roman empire, and though we bring the sword we also bring the peace. How insightful.

You're a success. Right now im looking at going back in as prior enlisted, but I don't know if I want to support everything we're doing.
Want to do something that serves others.

0311?

should i join the military if i want to learn to be more disciplined?

2006-
still in

rahhh

no, if you don't have that basic human disciplined... then you'll just be a shit huge shitbag

Marine vs army? Which should I enlist in, and is it worth it? I have no morals, will listen to orders, don't fear death, but I need some excitement + adrenaline pumping in my veins, for it to be worth it. Should I join? And which one? Any info is greatly appreciated :)

You should become self disciplined if you want to join the military.
I had to lose 56 lbs to get in, I wanted it bad enough so I disciplined myself.

I'm working on going back in. From usaf to usmc. Fingers crossed for this 26 y/o chairman

marines, have a lot of shitty times but get some really good wisdom.

The Infantry and SF are noble; the rest are just POG faggots who want to be American heroes, but don't actually want to do anything more demanding than flipping burgers stateside.

>they invade other countries
Yes, they do... It's part of their job... Though the reasoning may be unclear or even shady, the military exists to meet the baddest of the bad guys and stop them from being bad guys.

Without our military, the country would be invaded and turned into just another satellite state of some bullshit pseudo-communist totalitarianism under China or Russia. Be thankful that men braver than you have volunteered to kill all those who would come and subjugate you...

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btw you sound like a boot faggot who has no idea what the military is like

I should clarify...

By SF I mean Special Forces; NOT "security forces" as the USAF calls them... But then again, what does an entire branch of POGs know about warfighting anyway?

Obviously I don't know shit, Sherlock, hence the reason I'm asking... fucking coon

the only thing that matters is winning

You have no idea how blue collar the military is now days. You work a fuckin job and do gay shit no matter what branch. No adrenaline involved.

they said if we didnt fight viet cong then eventually communism would take over the world. well communism didnt take over but there was a lot of dead americans.

Afghanistan, where the world's most open society confronts the world's most closed one

My bad man. I just become a fucking dick head after cleaning the same room for eight hours.

If all you're looking for is excitement and adrenaline, and you have no morals, go find yourself a Six Flags with a huge roller coaster or some shit... You have to be ready and willing to kill a motherfucker if you want to do Infantry type shit... And I don't mean pull the right shoulder trigger at a 3D model... I mean look into the motherfucker's face as he dies... And then you gotta wear that asshole's brains and blood on your uniform for another 20 miles until you get to a place where you can shower and change your uniform, and then continue to smell the blood and death on your gear until you can get some time in which to scrub that shit out as best you can...

If you're just looking for excitement, go find a civilian-side skydiving or bungee jumping thing... If you want to dedicate a few years of your life to serving your country, join....

found the POG/non-deployed

because society has downgraded to a point where serial killers are glorified as heroes. a mass murderer if youre man enough

>communism didn't take over

Except that it's in pretty much every country now, to varying degrees... Even this one...

White people did that.

I think it isn't nobel but i respect veterans because they figth for my country. Not the goverment but the people of my land and for my safety. I personaly want to join the military because 1. I want to do this too 2. i don't think i can work in a civil job. I need the drill and the disciplin not because i don't have any but i can't work when i get ask for something. I can only work if i get the command to do it.

And if you're not doing Infantry shit, you're just a civilian who takes a pay cut compared to the private sector just for the privilege to wear a uniform...

This is why POGs are fucking gay.

Lol my ex gf joined the army.
Big life as a 92g in Germany now.
The only thing being invaded is her butthole.

All good my dude
What the fuck really?
Nah I want some violence, with the chance to die. Plus, I don't THINK I would mind killing, in the case of war. It's fair game, they go in to kill, and so do you.

Yepp. Got dealt a shitty hand.

Marines -
Disciplined, proud, tight knit community

Smaller force, lowest reenlistment rate of all branches. Lower standard of living. Fewer duty stations.

Army-
Large force with many duty stations. Enlistment bonuses. Higher standard of living than marines. Quick promotions. More opportunities.

Low standard of service members. They get promoted and rank over you. It can be a bitch.

So if we stayed out of iraq and afganistan..they would have invaded mainland USA?

Yes, the USAF knows nothing about warfighting.
I don't know what all that surveillance, intel data, air support, bombing, rescue mission, supply stuff was for.

I'm sure you could have gotten all that done with a tank and some binoculars.
Sorry your asvab score was so low, thanks for all the sweeping and mopping you did

Get a dominatrix! She'll fuck your ass

But you gotta do the chamber once a year am i right?

that's... not a bad idea actually

honestly the military is just moving equipment

The military is just social welfare for people who are too stupid to claim social welfare

No.

#TRUTH

Well then you're a retard who can't handle chemical warefare

but which is which?

Fpbp

Vet here afghan iraq grunt the Army is great well it could be. Some good points in here covered in shit like life but really i loved what i was doing at the start heart was right in it thought i was doing the right thing as time goes on but u understand and u see things and realise its all bullshit 100% bullshit put on to young ppl who do all the dirty work for other greedy cunts ppl who dont know or give a fuck about any of your life and yeah what person are u when u come home Hey my job was to kill cunts to make them safer lol ive made myself a piece of shit because i thought i could kill others would have been good if i didnt wake up now i just try to be a good dad and thats it but i dont fit in anywhere and only other vets could understand even then u dont wanna be hanging round killers plenty of great people fucked over just trying to make there way in the world but yeah its a fucking lie and i live with it but im proud of alot of things and i wont ever forget but yeah how many people really see war lol if a fucking pogs outside the wire he prays he gets hit hahah thats a pay check for the rest of his life ohh and dont forget the medals lol

Thank you brother
You found out it was a lie later in life like me.
It's a big stupid game, and the blind patriotism keeps everyone playing.
Keep moving forward and enjoy your life

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