Tor & the onion web are really that safe & private as they say?

Tor & the onion web are really that safe & private as they say?
I don't think that's possible

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Sort of. Never use it without also using a vpn
Change your IP to a server in Germany they have some pretty good internet privacy laws from what I’ve been told

Never view CP on the website if you can help it even if that’s what you’re looking for instead try and get links to a drop box or another file hosting site where you can remain anonymous and view it from there until it gets taken down.

If you are going to download it don’t keep it on your computer delete it immediately after moving it to a flash drive, or other suitably easy to despose of media (this goes for any questionable data not just cp)
Make sure to use a drive scrubbing program to get rid of it for sure.

All of this and you’re still not 100% safe it’s just the best you can do these days

It was safe. It's been compromised a long time ago. I wouldn't recommend it. Back in 2015 it was fine, but now the place is loaded with feds.

why do people keep recommending to use a vpn?

just curious, are you just repeating what others say or did you do some research and conclude that you need one?

It's safe as long as you do your research. Don't do anything stupid and you won't have to worry about getting a knock at your door

Wow that sounds as so much protection for only being in a high type of network protection.
(sorry, my english is awfully bad)

I use generally MEGA to download shit from that place, principally Doc's. But i not feel Safe

Nice doubles boi

Really is so compromised?
Really we are not anonymous at all in any place?

Awesome answer, i guess

When I say it's compromised i'm referring to the shaky ground that people who use Tor are standing on because of the feds. It's anonymous of course, but that doesn't mean there aren't a ton of feds on the deepweb. I have no idea how many people, if any, have been caught by using Tor, but I think you should know that those fuckers are watching. I went on a forum for something (I'll leave it at that lol), and turns out it was a fucking honeypot. I can't say much more than that.

It is totally secure if you boot using the "tails" operating system and connect over a public network, like your local coffee shop. It's a flash OS pre-configured to use a proxy-vpn array. Seriously, I'm an experienced security professional.

Also, use PGP if you try to communicate.

If you store data from a website that you'd like to keep, encrypt it 512SHA style and store it on a flash drive and hide the drive. Use a keyfile and pw for drive decryption.

or your door kicked down and the SWAT jumping through your windows

well i feel a little more curious about that feeds

I once browsed the deepweb with a phone and with javascript activated just to see some real life straight shotacon

The feds never came

I never went back on the deepweb again, did I dodge a bullet ?

Depends on when it was, honestly. It's a lot worse now. Also, I think enabling Javascript is the opposite of what you should do on those sites but I haven't been on the deepweb in a while so my memory is a bit fuzzy. Honestly i've done a ton of stupid shit and nobody came knocking. For fucks sake, I torrented cheese when I was young. My ISP isn't well known though, so i'm not sure that they give a fuck about anything.

I went on the deep web on my phone as well a couple years ago just to access some leaked ISIS attack plan map (supposedly they were gonna launch an attack on Las Vegas, which is where I used to live), and never had any trouble.
I told some folks on here and hey said I was dancing with the devil, had a low key near death experience and didn't even know it right there. Not too sure if they were shitting me or not, but if they weren't, then you seriously got lucky.

Not really- I suppose you have nothing to worry about if you're not doing anything worthy of attention.

Lol all these fags think they know shit. I have been watching (downloading) Cp for 4 - 5 years and nothing happened but i just tired of Cp i need some gore porn extreme shits give some links faggots.

I go across the phone a couple of years ago.
I only see a kind of blog about fantasizing about being with hailbait's and other shits.
I scared my shit out about being followed and i never do it again.

I don't know if i have been lucky or just a faggot

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Are you in the US at least?

Really enjoys that much the CP?

Did anybody see the black in white video of women in clown masks and afros having sex with a boy ? That's the only shit that I viewed that looked like it was straight from a creepy past, any other website is basically just anonymous communities where people post from times to times

+a

5 years here too, bud. I still don't think it's safe.

Why watch child porn l have never viewed it in my entire life l don't see why people would want to see it

I think the same about feet and cucks, but who am I to judge?

Tor is not safe, the feds and other government entities actually run many of the tor nodes. THEY CAN AND WILL track you down if they want to.
extremetech.com/internet/232437-researchers-find-more-than-100-tor-nodes-that-are-snooping-on-users

Tor is only step one of a multi-step process needed to remain truly anonymous. If you are asking this question on Sup Forums then you don't even need to be thinking about what you were going to use Tor for.

Are you saying that's possible be "truly anonymous?

adding to this guy, there was a huge fed raid on a lot of people a couple of years ago, I mean in the hundreds or thousands numbers of jailed people, thats when everyone knew tor wasn't THAT safe anymore

>delete it after moving it to a flash drive
>implying data recovery wont work
>implying a flash drive is safe
>not using a triple encrypted veracrypt shell with a 128 character password that's completely random and saved inside a .exe file that you have to open with notepad to find

fucking casuals

LOOK AT ME GUY I'M A HUGE FUCKING NERD THAT KNOW WHAT I'M DOING EVEN IF AT THE BEGINNING I DIDN'T KNOW SHIT THEREFORE EVERYONE IS STUPID XDDDDDDDD

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A VPN is useful to hide the fact you are using TOR if you buy it anonomlsy. You can even use some that allows VPN -> Tor ->VPN -> Tor

but vpns have drawbacks

Dropbox cp? Anyone?

No i'm not in the Us i'm in Europe.
Well i think nobody gives a shit about who's watching Cp. Beacuse i never used tails or vpn's just straight in to tor.

not if youre a pedophile faggot. you WILL get got

You're from serbia? Or another country that are in-out wars?

damn close to truly anonymous
Disposable laptop with a NIC you can change the MAC on with no HDD, a linux OS booted from DVD-ROM. VPN into a VPN service that records a minimum of information. Log into a compromised on Azure or AWS through RDP. Use this RDP session to create a VPN connection to a darkweb VPN service then fire up Tor. Nuke the Azure/AWS VM on exit so the admin has to reload or restore a snapshot. NEVER SAVE ANYTHING

This still is only about half of what you need to do to be "anonymous"

>can't get a joke.jpg

>implying data recovery wont work

How could they recover the data on the computer if you used a drive scrubbing program like DBAN?

>dban

nigga why the fuck would you wipe everything instead of the file itself w/ eraser or something

never trust DBAN or other "zeroing" methods. User error is all it takes and that incriminating evidence you thought you wiped is still intact.

>Microsoft Azure
>Microsoft
?

well i'm from Russia maybe it isn't considered in Europe i don't know.

file hashes, the secondary MFT, shadow copies. There are a TON of places that "one" file you erased can show up.

This is why i preach don't save anything. Don't even use a system where you could save something even if you wanted.

Any tutorials on how to set up a secret porn folder?

I literally have a folder labeled "porn" on my external hard drive
I figure I should probably hide my stash of 30 gb of sissy hypnosis

yeah i just clear shellbags in case i need to quick delete shit, if i want to format my pc i always use dban on like 2 passes bc that takes like 42 hours

It isn't possible to be fully anonymous. If the Fed's care enough they will fuck your shit up.

which platform the compromised VM is on isn't important.

>encrypt it 512SHA style
That's a hash algorithm, not an encryption algorithm.

I totally read this with some cheesy 80's russian accent in my head.

>why do people keep recommending to use a vpn?

You should just do research. It encrypts your connection from your pc to the vpn server, making it impossible for your ISP to read the data.

Well, until they crack algorithms with quantum computing.

here is a cautionary tale about why "haha my hard drive is encrypted" is not enough to save you.

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/man-in-jail-2-years-for-refusing-to-decrypt-drives-will-he-ever-get-out/

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T READ THE REST OF HIS MESSAGE WITH THE PASSWORD OF 128 CHARACTERS THEREFORE I ASSUMED HE WAS A PRETENTIOUS FAGGOT WHEN HE WAS IN FACT JOKING BECAUSE THE SOURCE OF THE JOKE WAS THAT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT WENT TO THESE EXTREME LENGTHS WEREN'T CASUALS REEEEEEEEEEEE

>veracrypt
Not using pre-confiscated era Truecrypt.

veracrypt is compromised.

Connections made via Tor are encrypted between your PC and the entry node, making it impossible for your ISP to read the data. If you don't understand that, you should not be talking about Tor like you know anything about it, because that is some basic shit right there.

Buy a pink flash drive. Store your porn on it. Hide it up your ass when you're not using it.

truecrypt doesnt have the stuff i like plus i can't find the correct DL link lmao

tor does exactly the same, thats why using a vpn is irrelevant unless you want to manually add another layer to the onion router

A VPN prevents your ISP from knowing you're using TOR, which makes your traffic much less interesting.

In Russia walls hit you my friend

this is some primary protection. There are some other crucial steps but it is best not to disclose all due to the public nature of this forum. Some devices have to been invented by yourself in order to remain truly anonymous and therefore must never be shared. Invest some time in studying security and you will see that with advanced techniques almost nobody but the most dedicated can remain anonymous.

>veracrypt is compromised.
Baseless FUD.

Don't be anonymous on the internet; its nearly impossible. It's pretty easy to be someone else though.

connections to a VPN server can be encrypted and encapsulated. Tor only handles certain protocols so "making it impossible for your ISP to read the data" only pertains to anything Tor is handling. Call-home ports are what the FBI used on one of their honeypots to get around Tors

A VPN can actually be detrimental when using TOR

using tor is 100% legal, there's no need to hide it

SSCP

I said "interesting" not "illegal".

>sir we have another client using tor
>good job this is so interesting, look at all that encrypted traffic much wow

>much wow
haven't heard that in a while

(whatsapp and a digital camcorder)

10,000 subscribers in your area
450 use VPNs occasionally for work, torrenting, whatever
12 use TOR occasionally

When you're making a list of subscribers to submit to a judge for a search/surveillance warrant, who's going to be at the top?

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Still safe to use in EU? Also bump

>using onion sites with actual addresses

If I start selling weed over Tor markets - using libreboot laptop, using tails at public networks always changing MAC and preferably with an anonymously paid VPN from a privacy friendly country will I still be successful like people used to be in 2015?

Any dealer here that can throw some tips here, mainly concerning going 100% solo in this journey.

you're babbling bubbles from your ass here

you're thinking of this the wrong way entirely, you can't even pin a tor connection to a country, let alone a specific ISP, or area m8, this is regular internet mindset you have here

whats holding people back from making money like they did 2 years ago? does bitcoin flux to much or does shit get taken down all the time?

Why do I never hear anyone suggest using Whonix-Gateway in a VM around these parts?

Jesus christ all that for weed? If you are moving kilos that sounds like the set up. Use pgp as oe user pointed out also. Weed hould be legal in the next 5 to 10 years. Overboard user.

I use both regularly. Yes they CAN be safe. But aren't always.

First step is the VPN. A paid one is the way to go. I use NordVPN and they have a 100% no logging policy, which means, all of my internet traffic goes through there servers first, and then they connect me to the desired web page. NordVPN is good because their are thousands of servers to choose from, and hundreds of countries to choose from as well.

The VPN alone is enough to remain anonomous 100% on any clearnet site. However, this is where th tor browser comes in to play. The tor browser is what keeps you even more anonomys. It connects to several different server locations, something like 6, before connection to the final location. This means that to track your origional IP address (which is actually the VPN servers IP) you have to jump through each of the 6 servers in the exact order they were established.

Although if you have a VPN and all you plan on doing is normal stuff you don't need a tor browser, or any of the android versions. However The tor browser also has a hidden perk of allowing you to connect to .onion links, and all the the deep webs hidden services.

Another note. there are hundreds of scripts that run on each individual site. If it is an illegal site, the tor browser has the option to turn off these scripts. These scripts have the ability to access information that can be used to identify you, such as your browser, computer specs, monitor size etc.

If you are going to download something off of the tor browser, make sure all scripts are off, and make sure you DEFINITELY have a VPN (because technically the VPN is downloading the content and just sending it to you after with no log history, so you're not actually doing the initial downloading)

Hope this helps. It's not fool proof. if you're stupid you're going to get caught. but keep in mind, the feds are looking for the producers, not the consumers.

TOR is not safe, period. Please don't use that word. It's a security precaution, like the locks on your door, or having a big barking dog is certainly enough to deter a random kid from breaking in, but won't keep a determined burglar out. You pick your security based on what you have to protect, how much inconvenience you're willing to put up with, and factors like that.

It'll protect your privacy somewhat, but its a tradeoff. The more important it is to keep your communications private, the more security you need. If your life, freedom, or livelihood depends on nobody ever decrypting your communications, TOR is not enough on its own. Accessing the TOR network from a device that can't be linked with you, from a place that can't be linked with you, that's a big improvement. Encrypting your communications and only communicating with people you know and trust will go a long way toward keeping you safe.

Lastly, if you're downloading kiddie porn or doing terrorist shit, just fucking kill yourself and save us all the trouble and expense of locking you up. Thanks!

>the feds
Found another pedo.

He's actually right tho.

Think what you want, user, but your ISP knows what kind of traffic is going across their networks. They know what IP address they assigned you, and they've got your name, address, all that good stuff on file if you're paying your bills.

No, they don't know what you're doing on TOR, just that you're using it. Unlike normal traffic, VPN connections and TOR both keep your ISP from knowing the destination you're talking to.

Maybe that clears up what I'm talking about?

Same dude here, also if you download anything, make sure to completely disconnect from the internet before opening it.

Also about dropbox, I've been doing my research, and it appears dropbox has a unique sharable url that is encrypted or something. but it's not something you can generate. For example if I wrote a program to generate drop box urls it wouldn't be possible. Which helps. I don't know why yet I'm still looking into it. However I'm still not quite sure if the images and videos you access via dropbox are detectable via say google or chrome etc

>Seriously, I'm an experienced security professional.
>encrypt it 512sha
>gives user advice on illegal activities.

teenager spotted

Only unsafe if the FBI already has malware in your PC. Just use it, no one's gonna get you

selling weed on tor yup i'd agree only if was a resident in z following...places
1) Tristan da Cunha. ...
2) Motuo, Tibet. ...
3) Ittoqqortoormiit, Greenland. ...
4) McMurdo Station, Antarctica. ...
5) Easter Island. ...
6) Kerguelen Islands, the “Desolation Islands” ..
7) Pitcairn Island, South Pacific. ...
8) Hawaii.

no you won't, so many pedos on the dark net and only uploaders/site owners occasionally get caught. you only go to prison if you are retarded and click a link sent by the feds with javascript on, or you actually rape a kid.

I thought that tor is a series of vpns, no? host to host to host? Source IP is obfuscated. Hence the difficulty to be identified at the source?

You're not wrong lol, I regretfully enjoy the dark arts

>russia
>is in asia
>"I'm European"
fucking retarded

A part of Russia is still Europe

>No, they don't know what you're doing on TOR, just that you're using it

correct, therefore referring back to my previous post here;

just woogle Tor and get redirected to their latest version

but then the problem is the feds can set up a node, and without a vpn and you connecting straight to an exit node they will be able to see everything you are doing. only way to stay safe is use many nodes and find vpn you can trust. (don't store logs)

At some point you have to actually get a physical thing in your customer's hands, and that means using delivery services. They'll arrest your buyer first, go through his shit, he'll tell them everything he knows about your service, and the investigation starts.

You should probably think of a different business to get into. Dealing locally isn't usually a federal thing unless you're into large quantities.

feds aren't after individuals selling, you are safe 99.9% of the time if you aren't an owner of a drug site and/or uploading cp

sow what vpn should I buy??

so its a virtual machine on the cloud?
I have Tails on a usb stick boot uo with that to a vpn then tor, I dont use it often more or less just wanted to do it to know how