So what'll you Sup Forums'tards in America do once Net Neutrality passes and your ISP puts Sup Forums behind a paywall?

So what'll you Sup Forums'tards in America do once Net Neutrality passes and your ISP puts Sup Forums behind a paywall?

Progressive faggots really believe this.

So who have I been paying all this time??

Piss and moan and cry as all new Amerifags do. Then quickly become accustomed to the machine without a care in the world. Then vote for a Democrat so they can blame the Republicans. Then when nothing gets better keep blaming anyone else other than themselves. It's the American way these days.

why do you think that you are entitled to a free internet?
Dictating a service provider what they actually must provide sounds like socialism to me.

Pay the fee probably. I only use this and like three other sites.

The ISP of course. I guess you've never thought of the idea of paying additional charges in order to gain access to certain websites such as this one.

It usually takes them a generation or two to snap out of that.

Businesses sure have this entitlement mentality to profit, don't they. I paid once and you need to kill yourself for trolling with weak b8.

>have no net neutrality from the mid 80s to 2015
>no pay walls
>have no neutrality post 2017
>GAHHH FUCKING PAY WALLS EVERYWHERE

face it,Obama played you like fools and convinced you net neutrality is the best snake oil in all the land

Next thing you know they'll want to give everyone free health care, the commie bastards. It's an American's right to pay for the coverage they desire and not be dictated to by the government. Sorry, tangent I went off on. If you want liberal sites join a liberal provider. If you're tired of fake news then go the other route. The market will work it out.

the internet is not free you retard. but it should not be handled by giant garbage companies that want to fuck it for all it is worth. there is a way to handle that is not horrible for everyone other than the richest

Where did I say I feel entitled to "free" internet. I never once said that. But I do feel entitled to an open internet where ISP's can't take web domains hostage by making them artificially inaccessible through a pay wall. Are you telling me you prefer paying more for the exact same internet service?

> Businesses sure have this entitlement mentality to profit

What about the profit of the service provider?

Finally be free. We wont be here forever.

ideally the market will work it out but that is not how it happens anymore

>honestly believing an isp can block sites through a pay wall

If they could, they'd have done it to the pirate bay in 2005 you fucking cunt

kys

You're assuming this artificial concept of there being some vast open market where there's dozens of ISPs lined around every corner looking to outdo the other for profit. That's a fucking fantasy fairytale. Almost as ludicrous as the communist manifesto.

>claims repealing net neutrality is a good thing
>get fucked in the ass
>"well... that was what I wanted anyway..."

Holy fuck, do people still believe this? "Net Neutrality" is literally 2 years old. There was nothing wrong with the internet before and there will be no difference after. You fucking idiots need to stay away from reddit and their poisonous liberal hivemind

If you think anything will be different if NN is removed you're an idiot who is too easily persuaded by the fear mongering of idiot millennial and the Internet press.

ISPs decided to start extorting money from Netflix and other high-traffic sites to deliver their content to the public. Net Neutrality was a direct response to that. Get your facts straight.

Why're you defending these predatory business practices? What do you have to gain from this? Is this artificial paywall benefiting society in any shape or form? It's a fucking parasitic thing that produces nothing of value. You're an absolute imbecile if you think this is how the world should work.

person with a degree in economics here.

If nothing would be different if NN was removed, why would people spend money & time trying to remove it.

Prob didn't need to mention my degree because THAT'S FUCKING COMMON SENSE.

i mean look at countries in europe. tons of choices of ISPs. not comparing other qualities of theirs like constant surveillance but they do have more choices other than TIME WARNER or VERIZON

>still no arguments

>How do we keep the earth fully populated with humans forever?

I was making a joke based off the old meme.
>Shit is going to suck hard.

I'll just leave this here.

Exactly.
They have no right to profit. They need to be nationalized, frankly. I'd rather have the post office as an Internet provider than some jew trying to game me out of more money.

legit wondering if these are fake posts from comcast bots

You got a source for that? None of these "free internet for all sites" either. Give me the straight facts.

>implying that predation is okay
>implying that imaginary friends have rights
Do you understand yet why you need to kill yourself, or why you will in fact be killed once you and who you are shilling for are found?

>anyone who disagrees with me is a Comcast robot

See also, anyone who disagrees with me is russian/a cuck

See

Probably tech support people between calls, knowing what a bunch of cheap bastards they are

they will do it FOR MONEY

>mfw I'm a phone fag so this means nothing to me

I'll just take a bunch of benadryl and shitpost on Sup Forums in my mind

lol not people disagreeing with me, just people supporting something that does not benefit the consumer in any way, christ. I guess instead of bots I should have said shills.

you are delusional

That literally can be anything you mong. Perhaps they installed new lines to better handle the traffic. Such a thing is hardly uncommon

Show me the facts, or fuck off

>being this retarded

>why does such a thing not benefit me
>cause I SAID SO!

real nice tactics, stalin

They're already on record as tampering with customers' traffic without notice.
Kill yourself, neoliberal.

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what?? how does it benefit??

Net Neutrality is literally good for everyone, big tech companies like Google, small businesses and startups, consumers, liberals, conservatives. It's even good for Comcast, because it prevents backbone providers like Telia and Level 3 from charging Comcast more than Verizon because they're using it to deliver digital cable.

Eliminating it is just a short-sighted money grab.

The burden of proof is on you to explain how repeal of NN as FCC policy benefits the user. The more meaningless business buzzwords you use, the weaker your case and the louder we tell you to kill yourself.

>predatory practices
Yea, totally. It's like the guy who eats several hundred donuts and the guy eating 2 should split the bill for their respective usage as opposed to 2 donut guy paying for 500.

This is just cause you cheap fags don't wanna pay 3 bucks more a month for Netflix. That's all that's Gunna happen, if netflix suddenly has to pay for more

Many fear that if currently proposed net neutrality laws are passed the FCC will be given unlimited control of the internet, and that private ISPs will influence the FCC to pass regulations that will push their competitors out of business.

my niggas

Net Neutrality prevents ISPs from charging website owners a premium to deliver, for example, video data. Netflix and YouTube could afford that premium and would (unwillingly) pay it, while small innovative startups couldn't afford to. This stifles innovation and it's bad for the consumer.

Netflix subscription rates going up is really not the important part.

no, i doubt that is all that will happen. why do you support any change at the moment? what about what is currently in place do you feel needs to change?

fug, meant that for
Bandwidth is a perishable resource. Why are you a jew?

You pay for your bandwidth, not the websites you visit. You're using the service you've bought to access the content you want to. You're the guy eating donuts. You're confusing who's who. Why should Netflix or whoever also pay for the bandwidth you're using? I can see why your ISP would like that, but its a bad precedent.

if net neutrality passes then the internet will remain neutral and isp's won't be able to impose paywalls.

i guess you've never heard of talking to someone without being a condescending cunt.
are you trying to persuade people, or just give them good cause to dislike you?
one helps your cause, the other doesn't.

>implying anything will get cheaper

Well, seeing as I lived through the 80s and 90s, and saw the internet pre NN, I don't see the big fucking deal with keeping it around. No pay walls pre 2015, and back then it was nice to be able to not have several hundred jackasses screaming about mundane bullshit that doesn't do anything like NN.

not at all wondering if these posts are coming from uninformed, shrill retards who believe everything they're told.

>pre NN
The technology did not exist to discriminate between packets and services in the 80s and early 90s. 20 years later, it does. Do you understand why users might desire new capacities to do so not be used against them just to create new line items on the monthly bill?

If someone starts a service of their own that's better than Netflix, They're going to have to pay the ISPs to get their video streamed at the same rate Netflix gets, and that makes it harder to bring new services to market.

This means that ISPs are going to slow down the rate at which new, innovative Internet services are created simply because they want to be paid twice for the same gigabyte of data.

Dude, its got nothing to do with entitlement. Net neutrality is the way any network works by default. Service providers have to break the internet to do business the way they want to

>that makes it harder to bring new services to market.
>implying Wall Street minds
>implying democrats really mind, when it means google gets to stop "fake" news

>reddit faggots actually believe that government intervention makes things free

Fuck off

I can only think of three reasons why someone would oppose Net Neutrality.

- fear of the FCC regulating ISPs. And we've got that, and that's not going away in December
- they own stock in, or work for, or have been hired by a major ISP that'll make more money when NN goes away
- they're a liberal shill that wants to blame Trump for this somehow, since its good for people and they're getting rid of it.

Its something else to hear somebody speak but say nothing of substance at all

ugh, you mean we're gonna have to get lives?

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Google can afford to bring new services online even if there are huge ISP charges for the bandwidth. Small companies can't. Small businesses aren't really on the Wall Street radar, user.

Oh, and I'm not a democrat either.

>neoliberal shills not killing themselves
Die in a house fire you corporate cocksucker

I said that neither wing of the business party nor the masters of the universe oppose this. That's pretty substantial. Incapacity to read between the lines is all you.
Each party works to help business do their censorship bidding in their own way.

if they get rid of net neutrality, then they need to remove the ban of using gov poles and limiting of cable companies. so if the big telecom wants to raise prices, let smaller isp come in and hang their own lines.

I know that.
I think that this is really a bipartisan pincer movement: google de-ranks dissident media, ISPs make people pay extra to read dissident media. Had Hillary won we would have been seeing her encouraging ISPs to use the ProPornOT lists as blacklists.

>Please big daddy goverment, please create more regulation

Tell me user, why do you love licking boot so much?

i am switching back to MSN and Compuserve as we speak.

not to mention that i am currently replying to this thread with a modem not running any higher than 45333 bps, lol

This. Also force telcos to share their lines, which is what made the hundreds of small DSL ISPs possible in the early 2000s until telcos were no longer mandated to share.

>muh imaginary friends have rights to be jewish
Tell me user, why do you love sucking corporate cock so much?

I had a great idea for a video (which I likely won't make) showing exactly how a lack of NN would work, using a shopping mall as an analogy.

>Jimmy Joe enters the mall, paying the $100 entrance fee
>he walks over to Orange Julius, gets a tasty drink for the road because OJ is included in all plans
>goes to Victoria's Secret, Christmas soon, gotta buy some silks for his woman
>CuckCast bouncer walks up
>"Sorry dude, it's $40 to go in. Your 'Dew+Doritos' plan only covers the comic book shop, the candy store, and the Panda Express."
>"I bought the $100 pass to get in, shouldn't that be enough?"
>"lol no, Lady Gaga's Crazy Clothing pays CuckCast millions a month to keep the fee on. We get to keep the fee, so it works out."
>I guess it's time to leave
>no panties for me

You get the point

The fundamental problem is the current monopoly held by the major broadband providers. It'd be nice if free market pressures prevented ISPs from making dick-moves, but unfortunately there's no free market on broadband. So the FCC has to regulate it to prevent the price gouging and extortion. Except now they're not going to.

That's it in a nutshell.

You do know how easy it is to deny access to websites for networks? Fucking schools and workplaces do it and an isp can do it way more advanced and only allow access when the fee is paid. At least try not to sound like an inbred retard and think before you speak.
People didn't think we'd have internet at all before. Faggot.

Nothing. Every is political hype. I saw no difference in my internet access during the "Dark Ages of the Internet before Obama the Great" or the "Dark Ages of the Internet after Obama the Destroyer".

Basically put, Net Neutrality is a political football that shills for the parties care about because it effects the financial bottom line of the donors who own parties.

tl;dr - Net Neutrality isn't shit to the common man, everything is hype and hyperbole, and you should only care about the issue if you are being paid by a political donor.

>net neutrality

When ISPs block torrent traffic (which is only slightly more difficult than blocking access to a website) they have a less compelling product to offer. For all of their blustering about torrenting, people upgrade their plans because of it and ISPs make more money.

That's why The Pirate Bay was never blocked even though the big media companies lobbied hard to get laws passed that'd require ISPs to do it.

you're wrong about that. Fuck net neutrality. The internet will be fucked and controlled by the governments of the world. No more free speech. Everything will be censored and blocked. They will find ways of blocking ToR/Proxies/VPNs/ torrenting, file sharing, etc. They will begin monitoring and surveilling every aspect of the internet. They are already getting set up for this coming event. Right now the CIA is buying a shit load of amazon cloud boxes and have already set up the CIA Hive system.

~gats00 #TeamBerserk hacker crew

>I saw no difference in my internet access during the "Dark Ages of the Internet before Obama the Great" or the "Dark Ages of the Internet after Obama the Destroyer".

Stop using Internet Explorer.

Who's paying you to pretend that the 2015 FCC ruling didn't simply codify traditional Internet practice and prevent the new technological capabilities for fine-grained blocking from being used against Internet users? Or are you literally just volunteering hoping to get your internship at the ISP trade association extended?

wew lad

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I come to this place for the retards. thanks user

/thread

Now you've done it. Post shit like that in a thread, the shills stop bumping it.

I guess we're done here. Time to call your congressman and tell them to intervene with the FCC's decision to stop Net Neutrality.

Congress does have that authority, after all.

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battleforthenet.com makes it easy

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find out were this fucker lives and protest in front of his door.

>"Net Neutrality" is literally 2 years old.
Kek

Kill yourself, neoliberal.

>this thread is some niggery from reddit