Just imagine how much more peaceful the world would be if we had won

Just imagine how much more peaceful the world would be if we had won.

>no commishitism
>maybe no WW2
>ME wouldn't be as destabilized

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How the fuck did that alliance lose?
Someone dropped the ball here

We didn't send that many troops. If it was the full armies it'd been over in a day. But it was during WW1 and we only sent small amounts of troops. We only even sent any troops cause we knew the Soviets would side with Germany in WW1

>>maybe no WW2
Very doubt it, it rooted in colonial empire times and great war.

It could have not been as bad if the Soviets immediately went to war with Germany, and not sided with them for so long

nvade in Russia = instant death and consequences.
RUSSIA IS NEVER FORGIVE NEVER FORGET AND STRIKE FOR THE END LOL.

When the "Whites" started to lose everyone just pack shit and got the fuck out.

Serbia against Russia? what faggotry is this

NOBODY wanted Russia to fall to communism.

Gee, I wonder why. It's not an invasion for some specific goal you dumbfucks, it's just nations sticking their hands into every jar possible and lazily making sure they're interests are kept up.

In a way the Russian Civil War was the first true proxy war. There was 20+ different governments all putting their hand in their trying to get Russia to come out on their side. The fact that the Soviets actually came out the way they did is actually astonishing.

Or if Britain and France did something the three times Germany acted like dicks before they even invaded Poland, giving the allies cause (occupying the Rhineland, Anschluss, and Czechoslovakia)

>Britain
>France
>doing something

>No communism
>No WW2
>No Cold war
>Also no internet
worst timeline

They easily could have. The thing is, they were afraid of the Soviets too, not their military but their influence, France had a large amount of leftists that endangered it's government and colonial holdings. Having Germany strong kept Soviets limited in eastern Europe. Britain even denied an alliance Stalin proposed against Germany. They really thought they'd go against the Soviets first and if not that the Soviets would come and pull Germany to a two front war. Sounds reasonable since they are ideological enemies. Signing the Molotov pact was probably the most unexpected turn of events despite previous technology sharing, and it really shook the west and made them realise the Reich wants revenge for Versailles

>Versailles
Why were the Germans so mad about Versailles? They got off pretty damn lightly compared to what they were going to do to Russia with Brest-Litovsk

>WW1 ends
>Wilson begs allies to be nice to poor Germany, American investment rushes in to rebuild Germany in the interwar years
>WW2 ends
>Truman spends millions rebuilding Germany, sends American troops to defend their former enemies
>Soviets block western ground and water access to West Berlin, America risks war with USSR to supply West Berlin entirely by air with four planes landing every minute loaded with food and supplies
>Cold War ends
>Thatcher, Mitterrand, and Gorby all are against German reunification, but Bush convinces them to accept it
>Today
>Germany has the lowest support of the USA out of all EU nations and all NATO countries save Turkey
>American soldiers are on German soil pledged to give up their LIVES for a country that hates them
>meanwhile America nuked Japan and dropped more explosives on Vietnam than were used in all of WW2 but they still like America more than Germans do

Why are Germans so ungrateful?

>no commishitism

The USSR was state-capitalist

>maybe no WW2

That was the Germans

>ME wouldn't be as destabilized

Literally America's fault.

It was the eternal anglo that refused to intervene, the French actually wanted to early on.

Actually, there was almost no coordinstion between the forces of this so called alliance. Same shit with the leader of the White movement. Bolsheviks just beat them one by one.

>state capitalist
dang is that similar to dubstep nationalism or minecraft anarchism?

Because the German government surrendered expecting to get a peace conference based on Wilson's 14 points but instead got "You pay now or we'll invade and also the war is solely your fault and you have to pay for eternity" and a bunch of British and French companies got German patents in the name of "justice" while Wilson was nowhere to be seen. Brest-Litovsk was what it was, "vae victis" and the loser getting exploited and not sold like a triumph of humanity over an evil regime. The Entente brought in an ideological component that was than reciprocated in Germany.

Thank God for those patents or else backwater medieval Britain might never have kept up with industrial Germany

>>maybe no WW2
>That was the Germans
That was Hitler
Without communism and german failed revolution he wouldn't be able to gain support and win

Ultimately your boys died at the Somme and other places for these patents so they must have been worth it for her majesty's government.

>That was the Germans
germans wouldnt had waged war if it wasnt for the molotov ribbentrop pact and i doubt russian tsardom had had expansionalist interests on the same scope as the commies.

Didn't want a war then why invade Belgium? Simple as

Some states are an island, some aren't. Some states have defensible borders, some states are surrounded by enemies. Basic geostrategy. The old scrap of paper story is nothing more than an anecdote anyway.

Polish - Soviet war could have ended communism with just a tiny bit of help.

But no, whites were too stupid to make a deal and the west didn't care or was fighting with inner turmoil like goymoney.

But the anecdote came from Bethmann-Hollweg

It was a HUGE morale boost for the Soviets. The White Army was considered to be made of mercenaries and shills for the West, so Russians who distrusted communist ideology sided with the Reds. Thousands of former Tsarist officers joined the Red Army, not necessarily out of communistic ideals but because they believed it was necessary to defend their country.

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Fuck you America, you were the most scum amongst them. Fucking burjua. I wish someday that happens to you.

Are you retarded or just memeing? The Russian Empire was the most expansionist land power in Eurasia since the fucking Mongols. How do you think Warsaw and Kamchatka came to be part of the same country?

>Polish - Soviet war could have ended communism with just a tiny bit of help.
No chances, USSR had Tukhachevsky

Alternatively, if the Soviets had cut through Poland and reached Berlin we'd all be enjoying actual communism by now.

Even if revolution did not spread abroad, a communist bloc comprised of Germany, Hungary, and the USSR would have been immensely powerful, especially after the devastation of WW1..

As long as Jews exist, there will always be world war.

>USSR had Tukhachevsky
And? His army was crushed. If Whites made the deal, Poland would just simply rush to Moscow, like they should do.

remember when russia spent a century dismantling the ottomans to free christians from moslem rule and almost all the great powers intervened on the side of the turks and put the serbs and bosnians under austrian rule instead which ultimately lead to ww1 which then also lead to communism being one of the most dominant ideologies in the entire world

It was the western cucks who had surrendered to Hitler at every opportunity.

>850 cannons vs 250 cannons

lol poles are there
relevant af