What's really important, Sup Forums?

What's really important, Sup Forums?

I feel like I'm turning into a conservative.

Am I weird for thinking that we should preserve a specific way of american life?

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it's important that you stop following kids on the street.

You're getting woke. Welcome back to sanity.

I used to bike around with my friends in the late afternoon through the neighborhood. Do kids do that anymore?

Is that real though?
Was that ever how people really lived? Or is it a fake tale about how we're SUPPOSED to live?

what's really important is people being free and happy without a bunch of other jackoffs trying to change that.

moving towards more conservatism is normal in many places, because as people age, they tend to get wider exposure to all the different types of people and lifestyles in the world, and they usually become scared little fucking pussies about it. so congratulations on becoming a scared little pussy who clings on to their "good old days" instead of just sucking it up and moving on into the future, you backwards-ass cumlord.

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This, but delivered less like an edgy underage faggot.

Was your family ever like this?

Take into account that your conservativism may be generated through constant shitposting by Sup Forums.
If you've got a good reason at hand why you do then go ahead - conservatisim isn't necessary evil, but it has the potential to be.
>What's really important, Sup Forums?
For me it's doing something which matters and ideally has something to do with space exploration. And having a family at some point.

Honestly, yes, that ideal is doomed to die. The world just becomes more and more connected and global and there is fuck all you can do about it except whine. Best bet is just hope it happens in a way that doesn’t cause too much shit.

..omg tell me that's a shoop

Since you are american, you are a kike.

Nah, it's real. When I was a kid, we'd say "I'm going out to play," and mom would say, "come back when the street lights come on." Literally every kid in the neighborhood did the same thing and heard the same thing. We were white middle class kids, and the world seemed mostly safe. Now I have a couple of kids, and if you did this you'd be charged with child abuse.

No. And you probably didn't wear a helmet.

I think your "point" implicitly suggests that liberals tend to be inexperienced, underaged faggots.

Not weird, just dumb. Which, again, is not weird (specially in the USA).

Don't worry, just be glad that dumb people like you get to literally run the world.

backwards-ass cumlord is a funny thing to put into writing and say with your mouth.

but it's really insipid and meaningless.

Could we ever return to a time where our discourse is polite and intelligent?

Well you have to find a balance between the influence of the modern world and your own ideals.
It's not like you don't have control over it - just if you give up on it because "that's just how todays world is" or you've missed certain spots in child upbringing where certain damage cannot be undone.
If you've got kids at some point then enforce some rules which you find important. Have them put their smart phone away when you're eating and punish them for cursing - stuff like that.

But here's the red pill. Conservatives TALK about preserving traditional values but their actions don't actually preserve anything. Kind of like a priest preaching about morality then diddling your kid.

Being as non miserable as you can be is the point. It's important to take care of yourself and your fam. If you have to kill others to ensure that, then that's what you have to do.

Because they choose not to. Do you want to take away freedom to enforce your nostalgia on other people? You can't make your kid be you. Only selfish narcissists try. Go watch Dead Poets Society.

I'm not trying to pretend like I've been religious/moral/ top notch this whole time.
I don't believe in nationalism/patriotism.
I don't even have kids.

Isn't there a real childhood, a basic experience we should all be having in order to make us the best adults we can be? An ideal we can all follow regardless of upbringing/race/class?

The human being is conservative, just accept that. We must join changes but with much caution, that's the golden mean concept of Aristotle.

sounds like Mafia to me

>Isn't there a basic childhood experience
Well psychologists have narrowed good and productive upbringing to some points. If you want to understand how to make it right you'll have to do some reading, but i guess the baseline is encourage positive behavior, discourage negative behavior and help the child develop a decent personality.

Good become a conservative , and stop being a fucking snowflake faggot

Jokes on you most Christian priests are democrats

I hate anarchists. They think it's a struggle to bring it all down.

The real struggle is maintaining it up.

It takes each and every one of us to maintain civilization. Every day.

We could easily rescind to dumb beasts.

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there are no snowflake faggots you edgelord

Sure, there is. The “conformity through obedience” mentality of the 1950s is hardly the ideal, though. You are looking back on a fantasy created by baby boomers and older generations who believe those were the good old days. Just like 90s kids think the 90s were the coolest thing ever. Just like the next generation growing up right now will talk about how the the 2010s were the simpler times.

Things are going to change. Hopefully they will change for the better. Resisting change by clinging to a way of life that can no longer be is the epitome of being a Luddite.

Oh, yea i forgot an important point:
Be a good role model. Most of the things kids learn is a copy of their parents behavior, if you teach your son not to curse but curse yourself it's not going to work.

>anarchists
I don’t think you know what that means

All you need to do is ask yourself what way of american life from the past was so perfect you think youre going to preserve it. Then actually read shit from that magical winderful utopian era, and realize what an utter shitslinging hellhole it was for most people, and realize that if you want a better way of life, its in the future, not the past, and you have to build it. Sitting in your hands trying to preserve what is comfortable only ensyres you will be left behind. The people in your favored golden era all worked to improve this countrys way of life away from and out of that time, and youre just being pathetic and lazy by being unable to fit in to your own time and trying to bring bsck an old one where you think you’ll belong. Youre in fantasyland. Learn to adapt to a rapidly changing society or go live in a mud hut in Nigeria.

Thanks for enlightening me.

No you’re just becoming normal.

Anarchists are people who believe in democratic relationships of power rather than hierarchal relationships.

not on /b

once again youre inventing a rost version of the past that never existed and “trying to get back to it”. gtfo back to your pointless suburban tract housing shit-hoarding daytime television life where its safe and at the end of every episide, everything is back to the way it was and no scary change ever threatens you like the darkies on the news.

There is a real moral compass out there.
And it's not religion based.
And we've forgotten it.
And, optimistically, we can get back to it.
That's my conservatice moral stance.

jokes on you, because you posted that.

jesus christ im taoking to a fucking child

Nov. 14, 1960 six-year-old Ruby Bridges was escorted by a team of U.S. Deputy Marshals as she integrated William Frantz Elementary School in New Orleans. She became the first African-American child to attend an all-white elementary school in the South.

Ruby Bridges: "Driving up I could see the crowd, but living in New Orleans, I actually thought it was Mardi Gras. There was a large crowd of people outside of the school. They were throwing things and shouting, and that sort of goes on in New Orleans at Mardi Gras."

As soon as Bridges entered the school, white parents pulled their own children out; all the teachers refused to teach while a black child was enrolled. Only one person agreed to teach Ruby and that was Barbara Henry, from Boston, Massachusetts, and for over a year Henry taught her alone, "as if she were teaching a whole class."

That first day, Bridges and her adult companions spent the entire day in the principal's office; the chaos of the school prevented their moving to the classroom until the second day. Every morning, as Bridges walked to school, one woman would threaten to poison her; because of this, the U.S. Marshals dispatched by President Eisenhower, who were overseeing her safety, allowed Ruby to eat only the food that she brought from home.

This is conservatism. This is the moral compass of the past.

Don't be daft. Discourse was actually a thing. even on the internet.

We can and will be civil.

Remember the good ol' days before the Millienials took over? You know, when the world was a safe place? And you didn't have to worry about your children playing in the neighborhood?

Humans are paranoid by nature. In the information age it's easy to see everything happening across the entire world, you hear about something bad happening in another country or up to 3000 miles away in your own country and feel it like it's your own neighborhood. In "the good ol days" you didn't hear about every bad thing happening.

If you want a happier life get off the internet, go outside into your own neighborhood, greet your neighbors, do community activities, take care of the people around you.

What's the moral compass of the now?

We're just going to keep spitting old shit?

leaded gasoline and paint was the cause in the spike in crime and the eventual decline when they outlawed it.

Remember the good old days back when America was "great again" and teens didn't get into trouble with boys/girls and partyng and alcohol?

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Aren't today's kids just morally depraved? Don't they drink and have sex more than previous generations?

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Please never talk about adult matter ever again.

user, do you have any idea how much damage ending segregation did to both white and black people?

How hard raising multiple generations of niglets in white schools where their primary role models were white people destroyed the black identity?

wtfithefuckareyoutalkingabout

Millenials have not taken over yet

Abortion solved a lot of crime

stop having kids you don't want.
start raising kids you did

Im not even american and i believe everybody should preserve their way of life.

This most people have their kids shoved so far up their ass now a days the kids only influence is shit and they wonder why they have fucked up personalities and mental problems. People need to teach their kids by letting them learn and experience new things independently or they will grow up being dependent pieces of shit.

You are just growing up. Your values change as you start thinking about family, a home and start working.

Are you weird?

Yes, all ways of life change. Globalism will end western/european democracy and there's nothing we can do about it.

This unfortunately means life will get a lot shittier for everyone.

If you're not a liberal by the time you're 20 you've got no heart.
If you're not a conservative by the time you're 40 you've got no brain.

>I feel like I'm turning into a conservative.
i feel like i should tell you to kill yourself or fuck off back to Sup Forums, you cancerous faggot.

What moral compass was there in the past? There wasn’t one. People were just winging it, just like now. The most fucked up atrocities in all of history happened in the “good old days”. Where was the “moral compass” during the Holocaust?

No they are degenerate basement dwellers now

what are you progressing towards though? the womens liberation movement was meant to be great for women but now it means they can't be stay at home moms living off of one income.

no fault divorce meant children were being raised without fathers, women turned into literal sex objects because they're not worth marrying.

the anti-bullying movement made children soft and unable to communicate a difference of opinion without feeling "attacked" and turning every exchange of ideas into a shit slinging match

anti-slavery fixed nothing for black americans, they're mostly still poor or still kept by whitey.

the clean energy movement raised the cost of electricity.

immigration in the past was done on relatively small scale to the current population and then the gates closed so immigrants could assimilate they haven't closed for a long time. and immigrants are not assimilating

so what changes should i be happy about? gay marriage? when the biggest celebration of your lifestyle choice is dressing up as a female clown and wipping your dick out at passers by, they should have stayed on the list for mental illness.

change for the sake of change is bullshit, change without any idea or consideration of where it leads is the limited foresight of the 'useful idiot'.
everyone now is a fuckin idiot they see something and they go 'why is he wrong about this' not 'why am i wrong about this' before voicing their opinion.

Quit being presumptuous.

I've been working forever. I didn't start a family. My home is wherever I make it.

"Growing up" is a parent's fairy tale for their kids so they don't give handjobs to strangers.

Yea. It's pretty weird man. You should be looking to enrich it. Look to the future. But keep defending the 'real' important parts. Those things are always a bit different for everybody even when it's the same goddamned thing.

If we could just go back to the good old days when people were moral and women had to wear scold masks when they spoke out of line.

That’s the ethical framework of the past.

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No destroy every facet of civilization whose fruits we reap everyday

What if you don't have either?

Wait a minute...
Are you telling me that THIS is not normal?
>pic related

The holocaust was mostly mercy killings,

your anarchist explanation is wrong, your picture is more wrong.

anarchy is no systems of control .

capitalism is the individuals control of the means of production ie; you control yourself and where you work and for how much.

enraged progressive detected
progress just for progress sake is often nothing but regress.
And judging by the developments of the past decade - race segregation, leftist fake news, open call for violence against those who disagree with the mainstream, we have regressed pretty far already.

race-baiting regressives will likely cause the next civil war.
Good job, m8.

then you rather shouldn't vote.

Nah, kids dont really do that shit anymore. I still ride around on my bike to friends but thats just because im broke.

Anarchism is a method of organizing society democratically.

In capitalism, a minority of individuals own the means of production while the rest of us sell ourselves to them by the hour.

>Am I weird for thinking that we should preserve a specific way of american life?
its a Sisyphean task, culture will change whether you want it or not,
"conservatives" are not even the same people as in the past either.

This image makes me wonder why some women seem to dislike glass ceilings, I think they're rather nifty.

Just watching the bullshit on this thread reminds me that we've lost a touch of civility.

All of Sup Forums reminds me we've lost some civility.

Just a bunch of hatepost after jokepost after hatepost.

Conservatism to me is civility. You guys seem to have forgotten it.

I feel like our society needs to become more like late 80s/early 90s America in terms of art and culture, only with weed and gay marriage legalized.

>anarchism
>belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.
democracy means to vote on something and ENFORCE the majorities vote.
Anarchy believes in the abolition of all authority-force.
Anarchy does not deploy democratic societal systems.
Anarchy promotes nothing but the simple philosophy "might makes right"
Anarchy is not a form of organizing society.
Anarchy is - like Atheism is to religion - the absence of any form of societal organization whatsoever.

The result is people having no rights, since no one protects them.
"Personal Rights" / "privileges" under Anarchy are the direct result of the amount of firepower and military capability a individual / group of individuals can muster.

The result are raiding militias, treating the people they encounter as slaves / cattle / servants, unless they themselves can defend themselves as well.
the ogical conclusion over time is the formation of new nations out of the ashes anarchy left behind.

propagating anarchy is not propagating an alternative form of society.
Propagating anarchy is tantamount to propagating a reset and reformation of current societies by violent, possibly catastrophic means.

Anarchy is pure societal destruction.
Deal with it.

what if we manually rewire human brains?

we can't, hence this is fairy-tale land.

>scold mask

Dude, I unironically believe these "scold mask" are a great idea.

Not only for women, I'm not sexist

This is what I meant earlier.

Anarchists just want to bring it all down. Easy cheese. Thoughtless destruction.

The thing is barely standing anyway.

We need basic standards. To be upheld and rebelled against in small ways. But the standard shall remain.

Communism: The government owns everything and a 100% of the time you have to do what they say. DUMBASS!

Censorship is *-------*

This

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Good things need to be preserved. The liberals have this idea that if everyone doesn't have (insert good thing here), then it must be destroyed or ruined to make things "fair."

This

someone else responded to anarchism and did a really good job, so i'll respond to your explanation for capitalism.

people are the means of production if you're in a capitalist society no one can control you and be capitalist.

what kind of bullshit tabloid scare tactic paranoia fodder have you been reading?

No, you're not weird. You're worthless trash who should be purged.

>In capitalism, a minority of individuals own the means of production while the rest of us sell ourselves to them by the hour.

>a minority of individuals own the means of production
>[we] sell ourselves to them by the hour.
Do they own us, or do they rent us?
Choose one, retard.

You can decide who you rent your labor to.
You can decide to open your own business and rent others labor instead.
No law is keeping you from being a employee to become an employer.
This society is not class-based, since individuals can navigate and choose freely which class they want to belong to.
Hence there is no "worker-class" identity to unite. Your todays' employer can go bankrupt tomorrow and join you as employee, while your colleague might start his own business the day after.
And if you don't like the way you being bossed around (while being paid for it), you can quit your job and look for a new one whenever you like.

Capitalism is the individuals freedom to control their own labor.
Communism takes this freedom away.

Workers, unite! (in slavery - YAY)

What a nuanced, calm, and rational response

So rational

It's almost as if the prejudices against leftists are correct...

Wrong

As if leftist was definable

pretty easy:
hillary voters.

This is a well formed question, and the answer is no.

What makes you feel nostalgic is not necessarily the best way to raise a child, full stop. The two aren’t related in any way.

Freedom, happiness, health, education, these things are important, preserving traditions is not.