Masturbation and porn are degenerate

Masturbation and porn are degenerate.
>they lower testosterone levels.
>they shrink frontal lobe size
>makes you more of a beta and omega
>causes you to pursue women less
>acts as a gateway for degeneracy
>causes you to be a cuck
>makes you lazy and lethargic
>numbs your mind

How can any of you watch such filth. The problem with western men is that they are addicted to masturbation

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it feels good

Agreed with everything you said. Thank the sexual revolution for all this retardation.

the west is dead

i shoot my load into my mouth so i don't waste the testosterone

any sauce for all those claims ?

get fucked christfag

Are you a jew?

>causes you to pursue women less

that's bullshit.

porn makes people crave the real thing. I agree with your other statements but once you quick with the masturbation you actually develop more hobbies and interests which make sex and relationships less important/significant.

Search it up sand-monkey.

everything you just said is wrong

Masturbation makes you crave it more, but it makes you less likely to pursue it. Your testosterone drops and your willpower declines

the internet and anonymity, Sup Forums and forums are equally degenerate. They're porn for conversation.

you can't hope to quit porn without quitting Sup Forums.

Not really but enough to be here

a masturbator grovels at women's feet. he wants a girl to masturbate him for him so he feels less like a faggot. and since he watches lots of porn his subconscious is always thinking about getting off.

but if you do not, you naturally fill the time with other things. self control becomes more important and you choose more valuable activities. and i say this from experience.

i stopped in 2009. there is a 3 year withdrawal period where you actually transform and it is very negative because all the damage catches up with you. but if you CAN get through that without falling back and relapsing to feel alive again, you will notice an incredible change in who/what you are.

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not an argument you fat virgin

Nofap bro here.
No porn either.

Total moratorium until after the election and probably far beyond. Living as pure as possible cannot hurt anything.

You need to also quit the internet for this kind of improvement.

>a masturbator grovels at women's feet

That's my fetish. Now I gotta find porn and masturbate

I agree. I'm watching porn right now actually.This thread is meant to red-pill people. I do believe I am a hypocrite though

Why would the White goyim bother revolting against their kike overloads, who seek their racial annihilation, when they can just have unlimited amounts of sex?

without no4chan you will never succeed.

internet memes are just another form of porn, but for information.

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>Nofap bro here

youre delusional

If you're going to target porn and fapping, look at the bigger picture: internet overuse is the problem.

The Amish had it fucking right.

Unlimited sex? Maybe if you're a chad. For the rest of us the sexual revolution has destroyed our chances of ever finding a partner let alone a non-degenerate partner

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literally none of what you said is true

>lowers testosterone
[citation needed]

My experience is nofap forums are a terrible way to quit. you'll just keep coming back to remind yourself you're not fapping and then search for excuses to fap. You just have to JUST DO IT. And find something else to take up your time.

I've cut down to weekly now, mostly just because of other internet addictions though so it's not much better.

well if you aren't constantly jerking off it is still an improvement.

quitting internet i don't see a point to. reducing it is great so long as you fill your time with something else. but you shouldn't just think you need to quit everything.

the point is not to just be a jerkoff literally cumming you brains out (because the fats in the semen are allocated away from brain and instead go into paper towel or kleenex. totally wasted.

As a virgin who didn't masturbate until I was 26; fapping turned my life around.

All true, can confirm.

How'd you do it, user? It's hard getting away especially in this degenerate culture of sex selling.

It's one thing to not fap, but escaping porn's grip? It's difficult.

Lets all masturbate to see if its true or not !! vice.com/en_ca/read/things-i-learned-while-not-wanking-336

Are you planning on marriage, or celibacy?

I'm autistic and can't stop fearing that I'm born to never marry, but at the same time I really want the companionship and children

I think if men could not drain their balls regularly there would be more wars.

The purpose of the sexual revolution was to keep the masses preoccupied with masturbation and sex; just another opiate of the masses. The Frankfurt school used it as a means of control.

This.

Just being on the nofap forums is triggering and a reminder of addiction. It's best to just do it and live your life, man.

Kinda sucks though. I'm really trying to get passed two weeks.

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>there is a 3 year withdrawal period where you
>3 year withdrawal

fuck brb killing self

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How is the picture you posted not degeneracy?

Exactly. It's almost as if it was designed......

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>Monogamous and single betas don't use porn right.
>Betas watching porn alone instead of with 2 or more females at a time to get creative ideas to make their own porn.
>Does not lower testosterone levels, these are use it or lose it.

How is it degenerate?

>numbs your mind

your numbing my mind with your autistic cancer faggot

that's even worse since you're catering directly to sluts in real life

All women are sluts anyway and are made to be exploited.

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Does your body know the difference between an ejaculation via masturbation and one via sex? If not, wouldn't it lower testosterone either way?

Yes it actually does. In fact they've found that you ejaculate more sperm during sex compared to masturbation. You also have harder erections.

No one here knows that feel, including you faggot.

Ouch. Tbh tho I'm not a virgin.

Everything op said is right. Those of you calling faggot on him are to weak to look yourself in the mirror and acknowledge how bad it is for you. Deep down you know, you just can't face the reality. Porn has never benefited you and it never will.

yes, it is.

you need to have a deep seated reason not to do it.

most people fall on the excuse "it raises testosterone so you can bang chicks"

but that will NEVER work. it just won't. first off, no amount of testosterone is going to assure you an endless supply of women to have sex with. and even if it did, you are human you are going to have emotional issues due to that. and you age and you can get diseases etc etc etc.

for me it is psychological/esoteric as the semen is transmuted into a higher energy.

also, you can tell who a chronic jerkoff is because one of their eyes gets smaller than the other and they tend to have flamboyant mannerisms.

and ask yourself, is there any homosexual or pedophile who doesn't masturbate? masturbation is the path that leads to criminal sexual perversion.

i could go on and on.

but the best advice is to find something creative to fill the time with. that is the sublimation of sex energy. transmutation. turning lead to gold.

Do you believe only celibacy is acceptable, or is marital sex ok?

I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to take being alone all my life, but part of me thinks maybe I was born to do that (I'm half Jewish and literally autistic). My main motivation was wanting to find a wife though.

I know right. I'll be the first to admit that i'm addicted to porn, but I don't lie to myself thinking it's ok. All the people here saying it isn't bad are like the fat land whales who claim that all body sizes are beautiful.

No fap is placebo
In a world where we can't just rape a woman whenever we want anymore, or guilt free go to a prostitute, masturbation is a healthy substitute

Don't blame him beta you are on your dick

i am not afraid of not marrying. there was a point where i was afraid of such things, but as you develop self sufficiency, self esteem and identity such things will not be such a worry for you.

is your life about what others think, or about making the best out of who you are?

is jerking off really self discovery like some pervs say it is? some people think that self discovery is shoving something up their ass.

yes, there are really people who identify and pride themselves on it.

then there are some who pride themselves on how they look on the outside. having a wife, a home, lots of money. but in the end are they fulfilled?

so learn to overcome yourself. if you stop masturbating you will overcome those fears because you won't be as focused on intimacy. new horizons will open for you.

nofap is only placebo if you do nothing with your life and think it will magically solve your social skills and every other problem.

but really, reality is placebo. Words and thoughts change it.

Pursuing women less is a good thing desu

>I'm half jewish and literally autisitic

I think the jew part was enough. You should just shoah yourself.

I'm a kissless handholdless virgin, not like I'm getting laid so who cares.

top fucking kek this pepe im dying

the irony, this thread

oh man

^ trips of satan, but good advice user

Although I'm doing it for religious reasons, I mostly want to be able to have a wife and have a normal sexual life. Erectile dysfunction is cringeworthy and most of these betas who support fapping are clueless to how detrimental porn & masturbation is.

My best goal is to avoid porn. Like, cut it off as best I can.

underrated technique, everyone should do this

I don't even desire much material shit though, I have a good job in engineering and actually feel guilty about everything technology related being degenerate. I don't have any passion for it anymore though that's what used to be what I loved.

I want to go live away in nature or something but I think I'd rather have a family with me at some point.

it could be more or less, but there is a withdrawal period. it is awful. you have to realize it is NOT YOU that is trying to come forward. it is an aspect of yourself you are starving. since it isn't feeding it is getting sick and dying and lashing out.

you will feel like a faggot, for example. why? well it is dynamic, for one, people around you see you are not your former self and intrigues build as you reacclimate to your inner psychic balance. then inner demons will attack. your whole source of identity as a man, as a "straight" man was wrapped in porn and choice of porn. so not having that to fall back in for therapy will mean you have to reevaluate what sexuality is. what is it to be heterosexual?

thats the worst part.

then the lust, desire for pleasure, that is not so bad after some time. you need to keep away from certain foods though, and alcohol and other drugs will oftem make you have lapses.

but after a while you will go literally months without even a wet dream.

and i am not perfect yet but sexually i am much healthier. i recommend it but it is only for the inwardly strong.

Addicting to jerking it daily. Struggle to stop but I keep trying. Typically is much better when you're talking to a woman or dating someone then i don't even think of jerking off... But when you're not it's tough. But stopped cold turkey bout 3 days ago gonna only blow a load from sex. Feels bad man.

i only fap once a week sometimes skip a week. gets really hard when girl sends you nudes though, that's where the real self-control comes in. have a lot more energy and don't feel drained because fapping once a day is a lot of stress imo

also dick works a lot better and stimulated a lot more easier than before.

How is not wanting to be a low test beta christfaggotry?

Why don't you just have sex with the girl sending you nudes.

Think of it this way. Porn causes natural selection for people who are "resistant" in some way to porn, and still are alpha, not a cuck, and pursue women, despite having easy access to porn. We have never had porn access to this extent before in our evolutionary history.

I know I'm too weak to do it alone for that long, which is why the whole family thing is part of my plan.

If I were to do it alone I know I'd need to also leave the internet, my job, and pretty much all modern society behind, and be preoccupied more with day to day work and survival (i.e. becoming a real hermit). But I feel like with a wife who's conscious of my problem I'd have more motivation to stop. The one time I was in a relationship I barely fapped at all

from my experience it is not a placebo.

I say that from inner experience and self knowledge. if it isn't for you that is your business. im not trying to force it on anyone, but i shared my experiences with those who wanted to know.

the bitterest medicine of all is self control.

it all comes down to self control. abortion? self control.

homosexuality? self control.

pedophilia? self control

obesity? self control

alcohol and drug abuse? self control

but you tell any of such people that and they will lash out, because the demons of addictions want to be fed. and if you starve them you are at war with your true self and your false self.

and that is what is happening in the world right now. a war between these two realities of mind.

Nofap is pure quackery.

summer sess bro. i live like 5 hours from the girl i've been hooking up. don't expect it to last till next semester anyway gotta plan for that tho

user, this is what is hurting us. We are getting soft, only seeking self-pleasure. Have some self control, prove to God you are more than a monkey.

Occasional fapping is both healthy and fun.

yeah, and the bigger thing that fucked shit up was the sexual revolution and then hyersexualizing fucking EVERYTHING

I find it good to masturbate the same day you think you're going to score. That way you last longer when the time comes. Personally I'm skeptical that the occasional fap will damage you. Some people have obvious issues though. Five times a day is obviously unhealthy.

nah you just grew out of your teenage and early 20 years where your Test drops naturally.
Theres no way a normal 18 year old could stop jacking it unless he was getting laid like twice a day.

sadly look what Sup Forums is.

Quit fapping, and you're still a monkey hitting buttons to see images and tiny bits of text.

Ironically, more primitive times in terms of technology had us less like monkeys. From my perspective It's really hard to separate porn from ALL of modern technology. That's what scares me becuase I'm an engineer and I build and program devices. Am I any better than a pornographer?

>causes you to pursue women less
Makes the rest all worth it

yes.

you may want to study tantra, but the kind which involves abstaining from ejaculation. this i have read is very effective.

also there is an issue with atrophy. if you quit mastrubating you need to keep everything in working order so there are some exercises which you can do. but just do not expend the energy(ejaculate)

find your own methods. if you want to take that path you have enough discernment to know what your body needs so it is up to you. but i am glad i could help in any little way.

fapping is healthy, fapping while watching another dude fuck a girl (or whatever your fetish is) is not. Just don't fap 4+ a day

Go 50 days without jerking off or watching porn and come tell me nothing has changed you fucking faggot.

This guy knows

it lower testosterone but the body product enought testo just after to recover the normal level.

Anyone have good tips to stop masturbating? I'm really in a bad spot. I have a gf and we have sex but I'm still addicted to fapping. I fapped at least four times today plus had sex so I came 5 times. Help!

yes i understand. we all have our own inner rhythms and are trying to feel our way through life because in the end, nomatter how many examples there are and how many loves we may have, we are alone and it is up to us to make what we will of our own lives.

I've done that before and I can tell you that nothing really changed.

Same I put it in my breakfasts.

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Kill yourself.

i must be the exact opposite. i want a full fucking load all over that bitch, none of that fuckboy dribble shit. also, i want at least 3 rounds and i'm not gonna waste it blowing my load 2 hours beforehand

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