How does Sup Forums still think that meat = muscle?
How does Sup Forums still think that meat = muscle?
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muscle is meat
I'll keep eating meat and there's nothing you can do about it. Stay mad.
Here's a sexy reward for all Vegans
A copypasta made just for vegans(just made it today).
why do people think it's only protien you get from meat? you get millions of different vitamins from animal flesh like carnosine, B-12, blood iron(mostly Heme-iron), cholecalciferol, docosahexaenoic acid, creatine, taurine and much more that you can't get from a vegan or vegitarian diet which can increase your chances of brain deficiencies as meat is what gave us the capacity to think the way we do so we would basically start devolving.
one of these you can't get from meat
i'll let you think about it
googling: "what vitamins aren't in meat" is a sad way to wage war faggot
only one of these are essential, mind you
;)
Looks like some Soy Boys.
the thing is we don't only eat meat, so we still get those vietamins
>skipping leg day
They're not /fit/, they're faggots trying to prove a point.
now try this:
all of those things that aren't essential you can get without meat
I'll let you think for awhile
so when society collapses you will still have those pills? if someone were to poision or prepare them wrong you would still use them? pills are less trust worthy then hunting a deer and cooking ot to eat.
i may not be a vegan but i can sure tell you that atleast im not a massive fucking faggot
pills?
you realize nobody is forcing a gun to vegans' heads and forcing them to vegan
Your argument is what? Define it rather than argue fallacies please.
If I'm trapped on a fucking island, I will kill anything and everything to survive.
Nobody if forcing you to do that. You go to Walmart and get your processed meat. You do realize that 99% of meat is factory farmed, right?
You don't even get the ONE vitamin I was talking about above- from meat. B12. It's a literally supplement that is basted into dead animal meat and injected into factory farmed animals, as they don't produce it naturally.
>if someone were to poision or prepare them wrong
Same goes for your turkey manboobs-wich.
>cooking ot to eat
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Vegan =/= Faggot
Technically vegans are statistically healthier- thus smarter, stronger, sexier, and better than you.
Try again.
I am responding to the vegan as they are retarded and don't know how the human body works
As much as it pains me to admit it I really do think people who do the vegan thing seem to be a lot more healthy than the majority of people who eat meat. Fucking love me a Ham Barger.
You didn't realize that I'm OP?
WTF?
Vegans know more about nutrition on average. That might be why they are healthier than the average fat-shit.
turkey only gives you indigestion if it's prepared wrong, pills like blood iron pills will kill you if prepared wrong same with B12 pills(B12 may come from the ground but is far easier to absorb with us humans through meat).
Glad you at least accept it. Some of these faggots think their McDiet is helping them somehow and will argue to the teet about it. Denial is crazy. You're an unmoral faggot, but I respect your ability to understand diet.
show me proof that the vegan lifesyle is makes people healthier because every vegan i see is a fat hippy with the brain of a child
>pills like blood iron pills
heme-iron is from meat
Also I doubt your assertion
>same with B12 pills
No. B12 is created from bacteria. It can be purely supplemented without animal abuse.
There are literally zero arguments as to why you shouldn't be a vegan.
/fit/ more like juice-jitsu, and I say this as a /fit/izen. At least 2 of them are pinning. It's still a fuck-load of time and work in the gym, but it's like running glider for WoW...you're still logged in and spending the time, but the results come a lot easier.
Checkout PPL, and I don't mean push-pull-legs. Get you swole as fuck in a year for a few hundred after powders and AI.
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Study finds unsafe mercury levels in 84 percent of all fish
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Like Bacon, Sausage and Hot Dogs? Then Beware: They May Raise Your Risk of Death, New Study Finds
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Study Points to New Culprit in Heart Disease
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ESTROGEN FROM MEAT CAUSES CANCER:
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95% of cattle are given estrogen to increase growth:
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Mammal estrogens are 10,000x more potent than xenoestrogens and meat can contribute to 40% of estrogen intake:
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Rates of cancers, especially hormone-dependent cancers such as prostate cancer and breast cancer, are significantly lowered when omitting animal products, like cow's milk, from the diet. Not only that, but plant foods, such as soy and flaxseeds, have protective effects on the body to prevent or reverse the development of these types of cancers.
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TMAO: A Toxic Substance Formed When You Eat Meat Can Make You... Dead Meat
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I don't trust big pharma to not raise the price as soon as we get rind of slaughet houses forever(remember insoline)
- Vegans have higher testosterone
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-Animal-derived estrogens (60–70%) in the human diet is milk and dairy products
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- Processed meattrash lowers sperm count
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- Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man
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- Casomorphine in milk is addictive
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- Milk gives you prostate cancer
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- Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer
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- Meat gives you colorectal cancer
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- Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups
Vegans literally have about 15% higher testosterone. Not because of their diet, but because of how unhealthy meat and diary are.
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so spamming me with opinion pieces is how people are instantly healthier? then by that logic the jewish problem is real and hitler never really died and is just sitting somwhere comfy
Big pharma wants you to keep eating meat and dairy dude. 14 of the 15 most expensive, and earliest killers in humans are caused from a eat and dairy heavy diet. Big pharma is gigantic. Bigger than Big Dairy.
Fuck yes big dairy wants you to eat the fuck out of those pizzas and triple quarter pounders. More cheese is more profit. Big pharma would fucking PAY them to have you eat those.
Some governments are fucking ran by these industries. They WANT you to slam chocolate shakes and Big Macs.
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>opinion pieces
No.
Stop.
You should learn how to read a peer reviewed study, right now. You realize that I, yes, have picked these studies because they refer to problems with your diet- but if you look closely and read ANY of them: they do not have any conflict of interests, right?
If you have ever worked in academia you would know that if you write an article without citing your conflicts of interest and you're then caught- you will be stripped of any credibility as a scientist/researcher. That's a pretty big two-sentences. Right?
Fagger XD
"this was offset by higher sex hormone binding globulin, and there were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone"
Do yall read your own shit?
then why the fuck do you trust Big pharma to keep you healthy and not drive the pirce up for your life saving Carnosine pills?
Do you understand hormone homeostasis?
Google the types of testosterone and come back to refute it. I'll wait.
I don't fucking trust Big Pharma bro. They want my money. They don't give a fuck about my health.
Daily reminder that vegans live an average of 7.3 years longer. Have you ever heard of the okinawans?
we invaded them and took over their shitty little island so yes(looks like being a vegan didn't save them in war times)
Also each ESSENTIAL amino acid can be found in plants. Ones that CAN'T be found in plants we can create via amino synthesis. The only non-essential nutrient is B12.
This isn't an argument against veganism. It's about some fucking retarded islanders that lived a lot longer than others because they didn't suck down dicks and lungs.
>vegan
Bullshit. Vegan bodybuilders(most of them, especially those without roids), are scrawny pussies.
>The only non-essential nutrient is B12.
The only non-essential nutrient that we can't get from meat is B12.
Typo.
See above though.
>I don't fucking trust Big Pharma bro.
>Trusts Big Vegetable muh 7 years extra
Provide proof for your claim or gtfo.
Most vegans are either slim (sexier than being a skinnyfat meatcuck) or jacked because they lift.
One of the strongest men alive is a vegan.
still not answering why you trust big pharma not to guage the shit out of you for the life saving pills to save you. as a meat eater i don't need to trust companies to keep me alive i just eat what i kill and grow and don't need no fuckin pills
Yeah. Do you understand what intellectual dishonesty is?
I'm not going to bother going through each of your studies when the first couple I look at don't match up to the claim.
If you want to increase free testosterone you can exercise, make sure you practice proper nutrition, and stay way from beer.
Excluding meet from your diet will not increase your free testosterone.
Careful dude. Big Cucumber is coming for you.
and the stongest?
>meat
>mammalian estrogen
>dairy
>tons of mammalian estrogen
>dioxins
>already processed aminos
>One of the strongest men alive is a vegan.
Lol. Shut the fuck up pussy. I'd snap your arms.
Vegan getting 9mm to the gut in the name of the white race won’t mean shit if he’s got big traps and bis better have his cardio up
Shaw gets about 90% of his protein from plant-based protein. Dude loves peanutbutter. Booboo-man will pass him at some point at the ripe height of 5'6. Kek.
Meat is way more expensive, of course there will be more money spent on it.
they are aparently better at fighting as you keep saying vegans are smarter and stronger so why couldn't they repulse an invasion they knew was coming and prepared for?
>All meat is from mammals
Kek. Kale must be rotting your brain mate.
Take the vegan's roids away and see how strong he is.
Which leads me to the point:
Why the fuck are you spending ten times more on your diet when you could be healthier, stronger, more healthy, and sexier by simply not eating animal products?
Are you that fucking lazy?
Using proof by example is a terrible argument. Find something else.
Oh, you're a pescatarian? You're better than most of these faggots then.
My ancestors hunted tigers and shit and ate them. Little vegan pussies stayed in caves eating plants. Kek. That's why there's a major difference between us.
Did you know that soybean products including soy milk turn testosterone into estrogen. I bet they all look FABULOUSSSSS.
>alt right asians and nonwhite
lmao is there anything more fucking pathetic
racist whites think your subservient asexual idiots with easy chink women
Your ancestors tell you what to eat via telepathy?
Are you a fucking crazy person?
Only retards hear voices.
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There are many hypotheses about the food our early ancestors ate, what effect it had on their overall health and the evolutionary impacts of their diets. However, while it is certainly true that they ate other animals, it is also true that they did not always do so, just as it is true that individuals, groups and societies have been thriving on plant-based diets throughout history.
Even if we knew what all of our early ancestors were eating across the Earth during the entirety of our evolutionary history, it would still be illogical to conclude that because some of them ate meat some of the time, we should continue doing so. In fact, a robust body of medical research has concluded that consumption of animal flesh and secretions is harmful to us, and we already know factory farming of animals is destructive to the Earth. Further, this reason for eating meat ignores an important ethical point; namely, that history does not equal justification. Our ancestors did many things we find problematic now. They kept slaves, for instance. So it is both illogical and unethical to conclude that simply because some of our early ancestors ate meat, we should continue to do so now.
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Man wtf is up with Sup Forums meetups anyway
>wimin
>colored people
>beta subhumans
Because meat is fucking delicious, dude. And I can eat way less of it for way more protein than plants offer.
Are you fucking retarded? Dude. A fucking burger on a grill, or even a steak and cheese hoagie... You're missing out on some great shit, and I bet you think about it all the time.
Apart from the lack of source on this:
Why are we zooming in on the fruits and veges? Grains aren't part of the vegan diet anymore?
>turn testosterone into estrogen
Nobody can be this stupid right?
Phytoestrogens and Disease: tinyurl com/hfxu23q
Phytoestrogens and Heart Disease: tinyurl com/zg2nh7a
Phytoestrogen and Kidney Disease: tinyurl com/jtwyanb
High soy can result in 59% less breast cancer study: tinyurl com/j8ywsra
Soy yields 13% lower LDL/Bad Cholesterol Study: tinyurl com/hhf4weq
Soy and Men Hormones Study: tinyurl com/hsu4wqk
Meta-analysis on men, soy and phytoestrogen extracts: tinyurl com/ja5s9k2 30-50% of men get manboobs: tinyurl com/zb58cbs
Phytoestrogen content of various foods: tinyurl com/z3kpvsw 220 women over 2 years soy study: tinyurl com/z4tbb7d
Meta-analysis on 47 studies no estrogen change: tinyurl com/hsm6ctb Soy Men
Review/Final Quote on
Soy being fine for men: tinyurl com/zwddamh
Why are you so afraid of dying? I have died millions of times
What?
I ate meat for more than half of my life you dumbass nigger. I understand the taste. To be honest, other things taste better. It's about what you put on it and season it with.
Compare, faggot.
Read the file name. What a waste of your time :/
>this doesn't fit my agenda so don't use it.
>i'm too nutrient deficient to read an argument and I think I win because I'm retarded
>en.wikipedia.org
How old are you?
menshealth.com
Just think about you growing up a vegan and how much you love cock. Now you know.
is this really from the same motherfucker trying to push soy even though that its proven to drastically reduce testoserone in males?
This
>menshealth
>blog-post
come back with a study
That's what I'm saying, you've got to want to eat meat all the time. like someone who gave up smoking. Just do it, you little queer. It's delicious, and you know it. Unless you're a poorfag, never had a NY strip, or a Tbone.
Just eat meat. You fell for the vegan marketing. Propagandists convince you to buy shit. Look it up. The popularity of bacon started the same way veganism did. It's all a sham. Stupid fuck.
Phytoestrogens and Disease: tinyurl com/hfxu23q
Phytoestrogens and Heart Disease: tinyurl com/zg2nh7a
Phytoestrogen and Kidney Disease: tinyurl com/jtwyanb
High soy can result in 59% less breast cancer study: tinyurl com/j8ywsra
Soy yields 13% lower LDL/Bad Cholesterol Study: tinyurl com/hhf4weq
Soy and Men Hormones Study: tinyurl com/hsu4wqk
Meta-analysis on men, soy and phytoestrogen extracts: tinyurl com/ja5s9k2 30-50% of men get manboobs: tinyurl com/zb58cbs
Phytoestrogen content of various foods: tinyurl com/z3kpvsw 220 women over 2 years soy study: tinyurl com/z4tbb7d
Meta-analysis on 47 studies no estrogen change: tinyurl com/hsm6ctb Soy Men
Review/Final Quote on
Soy being fine for men: tinyurl com/zwddamh
Lurk more.
Also:
>estrogens may pass through the food chain and exert some disorders in male reproductive system
>1639+ ng/L of oestrogen
>1 gallon of milk per day would literally put you higher than a fucking woman starting her ovulation/menstrual cycle
>Animal-derived estrogens (60–70%) in the human diet is milk and dairy products
>"Hartmann and co-workers conducted a market basket survey and measured the steroid concentration in milk and milk products using GS/MS method (93). They found a maximum concentration of total estrone (sum of free and conjugated forms) in butter with 1.47 ng/g, which followed by 0.26, 0.17, 0.16, and 0.13 ng/g (or ng/ml) in cream, Gouda cheese, yoghurt, and milk, respectively."
>tfw you've been effeminated by the meat and dairy jews and you still eat meat and dairy
Still forgetting poultry.
Reptiles are also eaten, though generally not as a staple.
>wikipedia said it so it must be true
U mad? U mad. :/
Gasoline is also delicious. We inherently love the smell of it because it has the same compounds that a certain fruit we ate for a few centuries emitted.
>i should drink gasoline because I find it delicious
>being this stupid
On a more important note why are you comparing it to a Sup Forums meetup.
Do you have something to gain from this schlomo
Vegan Steroids...
>he doesn't know his logical fallacies
Have you passed high school?
You're not intelligent. The Dunning-kruger on this one. Kek.
checked
>resorting to "umad" in 2017
I thought the kiddies would be asleep at this hour user. What are you still doing awake?
ad ho·mi·nem
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adverb: ad hominem; adjective: ad hominem
1.
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"vicious ad hominem attacks"
2.
relating to or associated with a particular person.
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Unfortunately there are too many studies that don't show their conflicts, hide their bad science and are just not worth the paper they're printed on. Without reading and understanding then being able to actually check against other papers (peer reviewed) then it's really quite difficult to do more than find those that agree with your point of view.
Fuck you gasoline is delicious
What, you stupid nigger? Fallacy, fallacy, fallacy. Makes no sense. Your brain has too much water in it from all those vegetables. :/
>t. didn't read beyond a simple abstract
"Gasoline is also delicious."
No wonder you people can stomach kale... you're batshit crazy.
None of this was fallacious. It was a simple comparison.
You should consider veganism.
Definitely mad. Lulz. Y u so mad, dude? You that brain dead you stupid queer? reply i dare ye you fucker
You've never had kale I assume?
Shit's fucking godly nutritious. It's sad that the world today is brainwashed into thinking: taste = nutrition.