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the problem is overpopulation, whats the solution?

we've already heard "kill all the [insert group that you don't like]" idea, lets get some creative answers

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killing groups nobody likes is creative

AGREE 100%. Dumb/poor people need to learn how to use birth control. Somebody should tell them children cost $$ and the less children you have the more $ you have.

We need to incite ww3, or break into a government facility housing untested bioweaponry and release them on the public. Easy peezy

we need to update the religions that don't support smart family planning.

How is it a problem ?

More people = more consumer
More people = cheaper workforce
More people = more profit

more people = more resources consumed = faster using up the planet before a viable replacement is found

Kill yourself, faggot

improve womens rights and education and sexual health so they have less kids

using up the planet ? what do you mean ?

just release a super plague that only kills men. simple.

Wipe all the sub-human (non white) continents completely free of any human life. Use whatever local resources/infrastructure they have to manufacture/recycle stuff we need. Sustainable system for until we can safely and easily mine space for stuff.

thunderdome the weak till we hit sustainable numbers.

good idea because it's popular to hate males in 2017

isnt that what weve been doing? these things take time...

there is no problem retards, it isn't even that hard;

get some of those genetically mutated potatoes and farm them in skyscrapers, put people in skyscrapers too. people will also get depressed which will sustain itself with a viable potato/suicide rate

give a large basic income to childless people, adn remove it if they ahve kids - make it economically difficult for non successful people to have children.

poor fag faces loss of half income if have kids - no child support, no benefits for the kids.

if you want o be less brutal to the innocint kids then offer good child care adn adoption facilities, but the parents loose rights to basic income benefit for life.

also offer free vasectomy and tubal ligation sterilisations.

that would stop a lot of poorfags from having kids...

A-are you serious?

Basically what the western world is doing. Why can't we have that for these third world shitholes?

this is my idea, and i know it's pretty out there but hear me out

we invent tanks that people can get into that puts their minds into a sort of inception-like dreamstate, which simulates an entire life of their choosing, where they can do whatever they want and it feels like a full life, except in real life it lasts for like 2 hours so we can get through lots of people.

at the end of this 2 hours(numbers can be tweaked, 2 hours is a jumping off point), they are killed without pain and their organs are harvested for transplants for people who choose life rather than the tank.

the point of this is:
1. the people who choose the tank aren't willing to contribute, so they are basically worthless for humanity. we get rid of them, and they do it willingly so there's no drama. by putting this forward as an alternative and a choice, millions of people will opt for this route.
2. there's a huge epidemic of depression in the modern world, and plenty of people would gladly take some instant gratification with an easy way out while at the same time letting people move on with society
3. the people who remain alive will have less lazy idiots in the way
4. the people who live on will guaranteed be hard workers who choose to do what it takes to let humanity live on rather than choosing the instant gratification of the tank
5. the quality of life will remain high for people who live on, while still being able to sustain due to the huge decrease in people
6. morally it works for humanity as a whole, since the people who die get a perfect life simulated, and the people who live on have the best life quality that any humans have ever had while not needing to worry about overconsumption or poverty as much

now i know that this idea is basically the rantings of a lunatic, but im just brainstorming here, if we could get all the pieces in place i think this would work

let me know your thoughts

Are you this stupid? He's just saying what any money crazed superpowers would say.

Neutron Bomb Africa, Asia, Latin America and of course India....

do you mean consuming the raw material ?

if the stock of raw material is declining, the price will go up, but it won't be a problem since we made more profit and will be able to buy it.

There's only two way things can go, we all stay here on earth and die, or we expand into the universe, igniting a brand new era of exploration and innovation.

weekly battles for the rich to watch, last person standing style winner takes 50k-500k or some shit

time in dreams do not operate like inception. this has been studied. passage of time in dreams is nearly the same in your waking state. so if you put people in your dream tanks for 2 hours they'll only dream of living about 2 hours of life.

so be it, i think we could still sell it that way

Sterility virus.
Population control by humane means. Don't have to kill anyone, just, let everyone live out their lives, and course-correct for the "Greatest Generation"s shortsighted mistake of exploding the population, breeding like insects.

The spread wont be noticeable at first until its dispersal has spread far and wide, and by the time birth rates are noticed to be abnormally dropping, it will be further time before any idea of a virus is considered, and further time before one is found, and further time before an antiviral is engineered, if even in that single generations timespan, but even the antiviral only stops the virus from infecting new individuals, while the already infected will remain sterile, and when that generation dies off of old age, the statistically few naturally immune will continue to breed the a small, resource rich human population, who will have a world of ruins to serve as an example of what to avoid.

tell them it will be a lifetime. Those too stupid to do research on it before accepting weren't made for this life.

>the problem is overpopulation


This isn't a problem....

>being this fucking simple
Are you fucking 8?

for you.
I guess the world should continue to sacrifice itself in filth and misery for your personal benefit though. Because clearly you are a deserving, righteous individual.

This, its obvious but trying to explain it to a retard that's already convinced the world is overpopulated and getting worse is next to impossible. We could multiply our current numbers 10 times and not be anywhere near overpopulated for earth.

...

Instead of being an internet retard on 4chin, maybe Google some professional opinions on overpopulation and what the numbers look like, do your best not to click only links with all caps and exclamation marks. Try a variety

>whats the solution?
starvation

But I are a person, and I think I'm pretty goddamn great, so therefore more ppl = more greatness. bc more of anything is always better, and I'm such a fucking retard I think the world was made for an infinite human population.

Retarded species will be lucky to survive it's own primitive thinking this century, much less the genetic engineering revolution, much less the ai revolution, much less the economic collapse, much less a thousand ecological collapses all coming together at once, to make no mention of the environmental destabilization ramping up lol

Good riddance to this dumb ape species.

>2017
>Falling for the Overpopulation meme
Poor retarded OP

i'm 32. but please explain it to me as if i was 8. How is it a problem that uneducated people in third wolrd countries multiply ?

KILL OLD PEOPLE
good for nothing out dated piece of shits

Sure, for surface area and square footage, humans could multipy 10x. Are you stupid though? Some cultures are still starving due to lack of resources, others are packed into pod hotels and walk on sidewalks with their dicks in the person in front of them like sardines. You really want to live on the hellscape that is Earth with 10x the people ot already has? 70 billion of us is no joke dude.

Been keeping up on it since the mid nineties.
You have no argument left but idealistic hippydippy idealism and a reckless ideology headed for disaster.

Go suckle Hans Roslings little sweepdish pecker.

one off payment of $100k to anyone that gets sterilized

>so revolution before an economic collapse
>implying humans survive the so revolution or that robots will care about the environment

Self hate is cool I guess but I think humans are alright. Robots are better but whichever

>Trolling this poorly.
No way you're 32, and aware enough to identify that trend, and dumb enough to not know why it affects the world beyond.

how long does it take until Kim will attack America? this Should be a good start.

Focus on terraforming and colonizing other space bodies

Actual demographers have been warning of UNDERPOPULATION since the late 1960's.
World governments have been panicking for 25 years over the ongoing population DECLINE.
But the majority of people still believe an unemployed moth researcher over math and freak out about OMG! TOO MANY PPL!

youtu.be/QsBT5EQt348

Hhuman progress has reached this far with you regards every step of the way saying the next step is too far, its tbe last one, its the end, too much, overpopulated now we all die.

You faggots have been wrong since the dawn of knowledge, I'm not saying humans will never overpopulat, but in my opinion, if we do then we would adapt.

100 years ago you faggots would be like, do you really want to live in a town with neighbors and cars and power lines everywhere? Shit happens.

There is no problem with overpopulation. More than half of all the animal biomass on Earth is in the form of ants, and the ecosphere has no trouble sustaining them. In theory the Earth could sustain 7 billion, 70 billion, or 700 billion human beings without difficulty. The problem isn't our population, the problem is the way people live. Car culture, suburban sprawl, fossil fuels, meat farming, and so on are all unsustainable.

The technology to construct zero-impact arcology megastructures has existed for more than 60 years, but even pilot projects like Arcosanti have failed because the idiot capitalist drones refuse to live a sustainable lifestyle.

Legalize all drugs.
Let the junkies kill themselves off.
Sterilize all convicted felons. Regardless of their crime.
Mandatory death penalty for violent criminals.
Draft homeless into the military.

Kill all the celebrities. Useless degenerates, mentally retarded, lots of assets.

All of this. We can't have 700b people if they're all as fat and dumb as the NEETS I
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This.

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I’d say the latter is a better idea, after ww3 human birth rate would rise exponentially due to whoever’s victory

So in short, radically change the lifestyle of 7 billion people, feed them lab grown food paste, and everyone will be happy?

Huh... I wonder why people have firmly rejected your idea

>implying my argument is personal

Objectively, 99.9999% of the human race is stupid apes being stupid apes shitting up and killing off everything everywhere they go. Naturally I don't count myself in that, or the few freaks of the species that have actually risen above pointless shit-hoarding existence to achieve anything. But that # is so small I couldn't begin to justify the total cost of the desirables.

If the species is not long for this world, so be it. If before it goes, it manages to create an artificial intelligence greater than itself that is capable of surviving on into the chaos of the future, then that will be the only lasting worthwhile contribution , of all the humans that ever lived. And it will only have come from a tiny handful of them. The rest was waste.

Everyone laugh at the idiot!

Simple, just stop trying to feed starving Africans and put in free birth control everywhere

Mind you I haven't done any research but I've heard that there is no overpopulation problem. People are just living too damn close together. Is there any truth to that?

World-wide communism.

It will be ugly, but in a few years the the world will be back down to a sustainable population

As i said, i'm aware that their overpopulation affects the world beyond. It affects it in a positive way because we can outsource our factories to them, and we can make them come to our countries to make the shitty job we don't want to do.

Without outsourcing and immigration, none of us could afford to sit on our ass slacking in front of our computer doing some kind of pseudo working.

Cause its not do this or die yet, obviously. You think when tberes no more steak in the world the south is going to starve to death?

Probably the most likely solution to overpopulation

Damn, that’s pretty good

>If only everyone was a vegetarian socialist all would be well, just like in 1933 Ukraine!
Fucking morons

Not really too close, but yes overpopulation is bullshit

and trump is defending sex ed and birthcontrol. Gonna be a whoooooole lot of black people in the future.

Openly encourage homosexuality and other life styles that lead to birth rates lowering, poison the food with additives, poison the atmosphere with pollution, poison the drinking water with hormones and other unnatural chemicals, a uncourage out dated views across the world that lead to sectarian violence, introduce viruses to uneducated people's who don't have the means or education to protect them selves..... Oh hang on a second, it's a bit late for that as we've been doing it for the last 30 years..

Make em drink paint
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No such thing as overpopulation. The entire worlds population could fit shoulder to shoulder into texas with room to spare. Overpopulation is a eugenics myth. Dont fall for it user.

It must be nice to only see what you want to see.

I guess its too much to ask that someday people are responsible and not complete waste of spaces like yourself.

i nominate you to rule the world

I'm glad that subnormals like you will be the first to die as resources collapse. The extermination of all human life is almost a bargain if we get to watch you mouth-breathing imbeciles choking on your own waste and dying. Let your SUV be your coffin and MAGA your epitaph.

defunding*

Yes but then we would be in texas, and knowbody wants that.

Overpopulation is a myth and birthrates are on a steady decline

really? all fossil fuels will be gone in 150 years. of all nations, china burns half of all the coal burned every day. what are 800 million chinese going to do when all the coal is gone in 150 years? africa has no income but coal. the middle-east has no income but coal. venezuela has a ton of oil but they're eating garbage because they're fucking beyond broke.

the world is 3 times overpopulated and 1/5 is starving. we need to lose 3/5 of the population by 2150.

the world population cap is 10 billion, IF we had unlimited fuel. that's where we can't produce enough food. what if there was no fuel?

This is what you get when you get your news from religious nutters.

Meanwhile, census.gov/popclock/
Is not turning backwards, and quality of life continues to rise in countries that undo the depisasterous population growth of the 19th and 20th century.

The only people that have been arguing the counter of this are militaristic governments that still unrealistically hope massive numbers of civilians will be their key to unlimited wealth and power, at once admonishing their own disfunction of built-in catastrophic poverty and costs therof and denying it exists. All to prop up a dead ideology that collapsed every nation its been applied to for three thousand years.

TL;DR: You believe in pfiffle. The earth is not infinite, and Jesus doesn't make more functioning bits of it every time another hairless ape is born.

oops, africa and the middle east are oil. i'm wasted.

the world is fucked.

this is the last, best time to be alive for the next thousand years. here's to hoping reincarnation isn't real.

The solution would be to enforce laws on how many kids we can have.

Ship all orphans to Africa so they can fit in.

>humans can't go on without fossil fuels
Whew fucking lad, talk about a non starter. You're right we can't keep using fossil fuels forever, I guess that means we all die in the next couple of decades.

how is it a problem for any of us that chinese, arabs or spics are going to be poor ?

who feeding them anywayzz loooool that fact that they havent died off is beyond me

Go back in time and stop this guy.

Your statement about oil running out in 150 years is a lie.

get use to baby

I own and operate a machining and composites shop.

Continue to sit on your ass and pretend to be productive though, hoping to elude the consequences forever. Cross your fingers you can keep the charade up forever I guess.

The fact that fossil fuels are non-renewable has nothing to do with population. If a million people who relied on fossil fuels ran out of it they’d be fucked, just the same as 7 1/2 billion. The fact that you say the world is three times overpopulated is fucking bizarre, as we do not account for even close to most of the animals on earth.

Where is your fucking logic?

You do know humans were alive before they used fossil fuels for like, millions of years right? They hung out in trees and shit instead, no joke

I also have a few ideas to make leeches and the unemployed who manipulate the system in order to take government benefits. Kind of a forced mundane labor.
If you want to collect welfare/food stamps, you become a street sweeper. For x hours a day you go out with a broom and sweep streets and pick up trash. You don't? You don't collect government money.
Not sure how this one would really be monitored but I'm sure they could think of something.
It's a way of making the lowest lifeforms actually have a purpose.

FFS, you little sissy, the major problem facing the planet for the next 100 years will be a rapid *collapse* of human population.
>I'd say read a book, but you're a Socialist and probably retarded

yes!

Want to hear the hilarious part?
You're a big enough idiot to believe what you say
The future will be decades of rapidly collapsing population that transforms expectations.
Protip, genius: I'm not even an American, let alone a Trumper

The post I was responding to was responding to user saying exactly that, overpopulation is Bullshit, its about lifestyle. Nothing was said about socialism or stallin, you're just a triggered retard.

>the problem is overpopulation
that isn't a problem. the asshole that wrote the population bomb has been proven wrong many times over. you are factious, you are a typical left wing joke.

just sayin, if you want to solve the problem, then kys

>I'm so dumb my entire life revolves around work
>and I'm angry that others lives don't revolve around work
>so I've devised a plan to:
>a. Reduce my workload and enjoy life more.
>b. Make everyone at least as miserable as I am.

This is why you are and will always remain, a pleb.

when i said "we" i meant us as an upper-middle class from a developed country.

I wasn't talking about your specific job.

Just monitor the activity of social media and you'll see they aren't less active during the workhour, because we only pretend to work, and we actually have plenty of time to tweet during our workday.

Yeah, we must eradicate the ants and their extreme resource and area demands! Cause surely it must be pure population numbers that matter, and not the actual impact these numbers mean

Education.
Seriously, it’s that easy