Traps are gay and you're fucking gay for being into this kind of shit

Traps are gay and you're fucking gay for being into this kind of shit.

Try to convince me that I'm wrong and that liking feminine dressed boy with their dick flailing around isn't gay.

No

what if you like them BEFORE you know its a dude, then dont like them afterwards, is that gay?

Your right, mods can close this cancer now

Thanks

It's not gay, it's called bi. I masturbate to cute traps and i still like women. It is a degree as most of people in this planet have

Now here's the real question: suppose that science and medicine have reached the point where it's possible to perform surgery that takes a biological female with a vagina, and converts that vagina into a visually and functionally exact copy of a penis. This penis for all intents and purposes, is a fully functional penis that is essentially identical to what you would find on a normal healthy biological male. Now if you fuck this dude-chick, including blowing him/her/xer/it/them, taking it in the ass, and taking a money shot, are you now heterosexual, bisexual, or homosexual? Assuming the sex was consensual and enjoyed by both parties.

Also note that if you're uncomfortable with how unrealistic the idea of converting a vagina to a functional penis is, then imagine that it was either a transplant or lab grown from their cells.

No because you didn't know they had a fat dong bigger than yours

anythings bigger than it, even the size of my tabs

What is your definition of gay? If you define it as exclusive attraction to men, then it's only gay to be into traps if you're not sexually attracted to biological women. If you define gay as any sexual or romantic attraction to a biological male, then yes, it's gay.

There are no other responses, only disagreement over the definition of a word.

No takers?

It's gay when you actually want it to be a dick underneath the skirt, being "fooled" like says is not gay imo.

So you're proposing the the definition be revised to not state "male" or "female", but instead state what an individual believes is biologically male or female. That way anyone that falls prey to a trap is not gay until they discover the dick and are still attracted to them.

I find that to be reasonable but that doesn't resolve the main conflict people have over the two definitions I stated earlier. It does resolve some edge cases though.

By that point genders are starting to step into a grey area.

Well, thanks for the (you) but that response was far too rational and level-headed. Why not take a stab at it anyways? What does your gut say and how would you rationalize it?

Can't come up with a short answer but this made me think of another thing. Is there a clear difference between trans and trap?

Are Traps traps for the sake of "traping" people?
Or they transgender homosexuals?

By the redpills I've got, gender-change seems to be alot of work for very little positive results.

Having a girl with a dick seems more like a experimental thing, it's just perma-pegging. I wouldn't call that gay.

Traps are a subset of transsexual. The term trap is what one would expect, it refers to a male to female transsexual that looks close enough to a biological female that most people would assume it is one. And thus, it is like a trap for straight men.

I'm gay and I fucking hate traps

That is the logical conclusion if your definition of gay, bi, and straight are all dependent on biological gender that was assigned at birth. By that logic though, if she not only had a functional dick but also had the rest of her body made to be as masculine as many manly men may be, then you can technically be straight even by fucking what is essentially a dude.

Would you still qualify that as perma-pegging? Even if the sex change shenanigans were irreversible?

There must be some traps out there who are just traps for the sake of traping people. "Trap-trolls"

"jokes on you, I got a dick! No pussy for you tonight big boy!"

Most guys arent slightly gay. You're in the minority which is where you want to be for attention points, fag

That's entirely beside the point of the thread. Quit bringing your sexual orientation into every conversation you flamboyant attention whores.

Yes, faggot.

There are plenty of transsexuals that like to go after straight people. It's more like they're trying to embrace the role they're playing to convince themselves and others that they're whatever gender they're trying for, among other reasons. But a discussion of why they do what they do is probably a bit much for this thread. I do imagine that there is probably at least one that likes to troll occasionally.

I think the term started though with trolling by posting porn where the camera eventually panned down and showed that the hot chick getting boned actually had a penis and now you're gay because you got aroused looking at them getting boned.

Are you really the same person after all your cells have been replaced?
Is you computer the same old computer after you've replaced and upgraded everything.

Same goes with the chick, is the chick really a chick after changing every fysical notability of femininity? Hopefully they changed it because they were uncomfortable with being female, so in that case they are male on the outside and want to be male mentaly aswell, which makes them more or less male. Which makes it gay, I guess...

>you're fucking gay for being into this
rong, but i see how you might feel that way

Seriously who gives a fuck.

Oh and also, traps aren't all homosexual. Trap only refers to a visually convincing male to female transsexual (I don't know if the definition extends to female to male, but probably) but some transsexuals still exclusively fuck whatever gender would make them straight based on biological gender. Like a male to female transsexual that still fucked only females. Rare but they exist.

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Ok, the question here is the following one.

You are lost in a desert island. You have everything but someone to fuck.

You have two choices, a cute trap with feminism hot body but with a dick.
Or an alpha fat bison woman that looks like Hulk Hogan with an ugly hairy pussy.

Believe, every man in this situation is going to choose the trap. So we are all gay.

True, sexuality is so diverse there must all sorts of combinations

Gay, 0% of unprotected sex leading to procreation

so fucking tired of this endless circular war over whether traps are gay

it truly does not matter unless you have something to prove

As you can see, it tends to move into the vague realm of philosophy. But we can say that they certainly are biologically female based on genetic testing. So that means that we may need to alter the definition to be more accurate. Or we could just scream faggot and cuck, that's easier than problem solving and rational thought. Path of least resistance and whatnot.

I'm inclined to say that situation is almost certainly homosexual which means the definitions we use certainly need some work. I can't really see an easy way to capture that edge case currently.

Yup. Kind of how it plays out for me. Any passionate sex (not just getting a bj from some skank) is going to involve kissing. I don't want to kiss a man.

The rest of it is just sex.

Hmm. I actually somewhat like that definition. We could extend that to bisexuality as well. The only edge case is people that have health disorders that make them infertile, but we could just make the definition cover supposing they were in perfect health.

But then again, if this chick has a fully functional penis and impregnates a girl, that would be straight.

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>This
The term trap, means you're being tricked into thinking it's a female.

On an ilsand everyone is going to be hairy. I will concede that i would probably have more time for the trap if it was willing to help out, buy no im not fucking some hairy dicked man with tits nor the hulk hogan bitch. No one requires sex to survive and this situation you've created is just going to end up getting dol0hins harassed

If she had a fully functioning penis with a working prostats and testes then impregnated a woman that would be gay because on a dna level shes xx not xy.
Now unless shes had her ovaries and womb removed she could possibly impregnate herself too.

And if her male parts were grown in a lab then technically it would be classed as artificial insemination or a test tube baby.

I believe genders will fall more and more into a grey fuzzy area in the future, soon it'll only be sexual preferences.

With improved gender changning, geneticly modified babies and more open sexuality, The future will look bright, diversity problems will hopefully not be a political problem as it is today. and humans as a species might be more accepting towards one another.

Congrats you've convinced me sexuality is more complex and confusing than I thought. This thread was pretty good! OP out!

Im talking in a situation where you are going to live for ever on an island. You have already everything. You just need somebody to talk/fuck or whatever to not be alone.

There are girls that are really hairless. And the trap had the hair removal laser shit.

god only hates bottom fags

My point was that whether or not sex could lead to procreation as being the criteria for gay, bi, or straight was just as lacking as the more traditional ways of defining it. It is an interesting take though.

>I believe genders will fall more and more into a grey fuzzy area in the future, soon it'll only be sexual preferences.

You still only have XX or XY chromosomes. Anything else is a birth defect. That doesn't mean something physical can't be done later, it just means it is either XX, XY or defect.

It is funny how many of the ones who do gender fluidity and that stuff say people shouldn't believe in God. Only believe in scientifically proven things. So, until they can actually change XX to XY or vice versa, there are only 2 genders. But, those people won't accept that.

For the record - I generally don't care who wants to fuck who. If you feel like a woman and want a guy's dick up your ass, go right ahead and find a guy to do it. Just don't say your gender is something other than M, F or defect.

I think it's more a failure of language than anything else.

Gays gonna gay. I just like to know when technically they're gaying.

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I'm on your side. Traps are cringe and whoever loves them are homosexuals who deserve floggings.

But won't people be able to change that with genetic modification? it might be controversial sure, but still...

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I think he was being facetious and trying to slip in some extra inflammatory remarks by misrepresenting my point because the thread got off topic. By off topic, I mean it got very rational with minimal shitposting.