He claims to be a Christian

>he claims to be a Christian
>He's not a part of Holy Mother Church

Explain yourself schismatic. People like you are the reason Christianity is so weak today.

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Absolutely agree with you OP

>mfw I keep procrastinating going to get baptized and confirmed and go every sunday

It's tearing me apart, I need to pray, Jesus and God have been helping me greatly, I need to be precise with my actions in turning towards salvation and knowledge of the true Christian faith.

PS: Sup Forums weirdly enough got me into Catholicism and I found life long salvation through my new service to Christ. God truly does work in mysterious ways.

God, please lend me your guidance, your love, and your mercy, for I am a lowly sinner.

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>plowman's lunch
>literally eating a raw onion

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>MFW I'd like to join a church, but they require you to believe that you will return from the dead after you die.

I suggest praying the rosary too, it is a great weapon for spiritual warfare in these dark days.

>he doesn't eat raw onions

Sorry I don't want to kiss Mudslime feet.

I do that from time to time. I need to more often, like tonight!

>Explain yourself schismatic.
I am Orthodox Christian. You are a heathen.
No further explanations needed.

I am deeply opposed to polytheism, although I'll do my best to represent the rational or pragmatic or useful elements of it when I need to. I take this belief so far that Satan cannot exist in my theology.

No Satan means God has a lot of explaining to do, but that's okay, it's bad to blame others for your shortcomings, it's worse to blame the very wider system of the universe itself.

Do I believe in praying to Mary? Not really although the one true God can seem feminine at times.

>Christianity is so weak
I judge the strength of a religion by how strong it is, or rather by how convincing it is. I find it's easier to convince someone of just one God, or rather a greater consciousness found within natural laws themselves, than it is to convince of three gods (although the trinity isn't like that), or four gods with Satan, Jesus and Mary as minor gods. No thanks.

Just one God, the one with the unspeakable name.

>he/she chose Catholicism over non-denomination

Remember to meditate for 15 minutes on one or more of the misteries with Our Lady at the end of the Rosary. It is very important. More info here:
rosary-center.org/firstsat.htm

God bless you user

I'm confirmed and everything I just don't go anymore, not since I was 14 I think

Actually, coming out of high school I do now have this desire to, last time I went with my dad was a few months ago on no special day after lent, and any days that we need to go I'll always have to tell my sisters it's important we do

I don't know what came over me now and what caused me to stop at the beginning of high school

gloria.tv/?media=403923

meditate on God and pray. It helps a lot to find your way back to the faith

You worship a false prophet. jesus was not the son of g-d.

>le edgy jesus not son of God meme

Currently trying catholic tradition out to see if Catholicism is right for me, thanks pol for the headsup. As a protestant growing up it was very foreign.

A few months ago my brother and I duscussed the catholic church to a great degree, myself being agnostic at the time, him being in the process of converting to catholicism. He is nearly done, needs to be baptized and confirmed, meanwhile I'm nearly done with Confessions and will be moving on to the Catechism afterwords.

Pretty interesting faith, much more spiritually whole than my protestant roots.

I know this is bait, but still..

welcome back to the true faith, user :3

This.

The church of God doesn't harbor pedophiles, sorry papists

>Morman

Nice spelling, fagg-o-tron

>build a giant fortress and hide from the world inside of it

How very christ-like of you

Well, more like welcome to. I was raised non-denominational, which imo is GOAT if you take out tradition. The focus on biblical tradition over theological schism is really nice, but unfortunately it can breed lukewarm believers, I have found.

I left for other reasons though. Thanks, regardless, italy.

t.triggered mormon heretic

It's not edgy, it is my religious belief that Jesus was not a prophet of G-d, indeed he was a dangerous false prophet that built a religion for himself.
A believer in Christ shall go to heaven however, as shall all people who live a life seen as virtuos by Hashem

Are you that Gnostic shitposter who keeps coming back?

GTFO heretic, Albigensian Crusade best day of my life

It's not bait, it is my religious belief, which luckily I am still entitled to even in my socialist shithole.

>The focus on biblical tradition over theological schism is really nice
That is one of prottie problems. They don't understand the Bible. Without Church tradition it is impossible to understand its true meaning.

>papacy alters the creed - great schism
you will be glad to know that they found a deal about all theological divergences like that some centuries after the schism. then the eastern patriarchs went home and their people didn't allow them to mend the schism. The eastern orthodox are not as based as people make them out to be.
I love them nonetheless

Of course user. Everyone has freedom to be completely wrong.

And the schism wasn't so abrupt as that. The Byzantine Emperor still recognised the authority of the Pope enough to call for his help, resulting in the First Crusade

That's okay, unlike your religion I don't care what you believe, as you shall go to heaven as long as you are a good man.

It's still fun to make fun of you though

whatever floats your boat, user. Remember that it is not up to you to decide who goes to heaven or not, and why

Indeed. I am confindent the schism will be averted, but only after we solve the current problems in the Church itself.

Don't wait m8
You have a whole life to learn and live God, don't let temptation get in the way
Take your first step and get baptized, then communion, then confirmation
Each step will provide you with more and more knowledge and wisdom

God bless bro

>g-d
KIKE DETECTED GET OUT

It is up to Hashem, our shared G-d, not me.
Why do believe that you decide who goes to the coming world, user? What gives you that authority?
The big boys are trying to talk, head back to stormfront

I do literally believe in God, yes, but I think shitposter is a little harsh. I literally believe at least 80% of what I post on Sup Forums, with a little trolling here and there and some views thrown out there just to create argument. I get bored. Forgive me humanity.

>keeps coming back
I've seen so many waves of e-migration that I'm virtually an originalfag. Sup Forums was the first place I've lurked and I'm very comforted by the anonymity. Considering most Australians are insufferable atheists, I have just enough identity to be a cohesive person. I don't even need to namefag.

>Albigensian
Oh, you're a bootlicker that'd be willfully ignorant of the direct teaching of Jesus pertaining to the rebirth and instead favour a pragmatically authoritarian useful belief about heaven and hell to scare the small minded into conforming to their morality, as if such a morality could be genuine.

I choose a different path. I'm not a Cathar though, I see the trinity itself as supporting my beliefs about death.

I see some logical issues with direct reincarnation and I see the solutions to those issues as defeating the proponent arguments for reincarnation. Basically it either doesn't make sense... Or does but... Doesn't make sense.

No, I'm not a Cathar. How I feel about life and death is complicated, it'd take a thread in itself to explain, but even then it's not needed for me to explain. I'm not Jesus, I'm not a prophet, I do not wish to be either. If I have a choice in my destiny, I'd choose to be Abraham. I'd choose to keep my beliefs within my family, raise a new culture of pro intellectualism, and leave the atheists, the impure monotheists, the soon to emerge western polytheists (which I'll, unfortunately, have a hand in raising), I'll leave all these failed theologies to the degenerates.

BTW, are you that Satanic Canadian? Or are you that certain proxy poster who's theist one day, atheist the next and is all too willing to call an honest (and sexy) believer a sophist?

> not knowing one of the easiest ways to identify a Jew online
Sure is new here, I guess middle school did let out for summer

I know that by typing "G-d" it is obvious that I observe the Torah, go back to stormfront.

God is not the name of God. "God" is simply the noun we give it. If you do not know the true name of God, you have been miseducated on what our God is.

Please reread exodus, it seems you've forgotten parts of it since your last reading at around 12/13.

>Holy Mother Church
Check yourself papist, Orthodoxy is the one true Church.

The synagogue of Satan wouldn't understand that, they've been fed a lie their whole life

whats up death cult?

But I'm Orthodox, user.

>mfw I keep postponing my confirmation

I-I really should do it once and for all

To is, it is. Traditions are traditions.

Oh really, which lie? We were around long before Jesus.
Why are we not condemned in the bible?

To us*

I find synagogue of Satan interesting, care to explain. Why so much anger towards a religion which states that no matter which prophet you worship, you shall find heaven with a moral life?

Catholicism was somewhat alright for a while even though still a kind of heresy, but after the second Vatican Council it went beyond any help. I don't think you or anyone should be proud of being a part of this half-assed tainted false chuch.

God is a human word.

If you're as theologically strong as you're framing yourself, you should know the true name of God is in the meaning of a very translatable phrase.

Heaven is to be implemented on earth.

Have you not noticed that every succeeding generation of a culture that accepts pacifist, moderate religion is increasingly pleasant and peaceful? Welcome to the kingdom of heaven, Jesus has raised you up by vicariously teaching every ascendant of yours to freely love and embrace forgiveness until such things are just internalized into western culture. No longer are human sacrifices and blood theology practiced, no longer is raiding and might make right acceptable.

There may be an ethereal realm though, but I believe the most pious of humans would have access to it whilst currently alive.

>inb4 his hat catches fire :^)

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That's very nice, I respect your right to believe as you wish, but these are not my beliefs, I observe the teachings of the Talmud, and it is simply taboo to write the name of G-d, In Hebrew or in English, in something which will be deleted. It is a custom out of respect for G-d, there is nothing wrong with it, you may write his name as you please.

Which branch of Christianity do you subscribe to? I am a Torah observant Orthodox Jew.

fill this: _____ olam

Tikkun , though I cannot yet speak Hebrew, I'm a lowly convert.

took you too long to google that up, user

>Romans calling anyone schismatics

Antioch, Constantinople, Alexandria, and Jerusalem say hello you dirty papists

I'm on mobile, friend, but I can't tell if you are questioning if I am genuine, or if I can speak Hebrew, as I've admitted, I can't speak it.

You need to add Moscow and Yerevan

>Antioch, Constantinople, Alexandria, and Jerusalem say hello
>hello
I think you meant "salam aleikum"

Two greater than symbols please, my client doesn't register that as a (you).

If you follow the pentateuch, which you do, you follow the same God that I do and the words "Zeitgeist" or even "Cthulu" are more appropriate names for God than "god," which is distantly descendent from the word "Odin." I've carefully dodged alluding to what the real name of God is for the same reason you feel the effort of placing a "-" in God is necessary.

I respect God, more so I respect that it goes fucking nuts when I just out with its real name. God even uses atheists at that stage.

God is very clear with Moses how to identify which God Moses represents. In representing that God comes with certain privileges, which is why it's the greatest blasphemy to even use its name. That being said, by extending this to placeholder names it makes theological conversation impossible.

I've actually been warned against blasphemy.

>Which branch of Christianity do you subscribe to? I am a Torah observant Orthodox Jew.
I also respect your right to believe, but I'm sometimes sceptical about how some Judeo-Christians form their relationship with God, notably if it's the right God and not Zeus 2.0. You might as well worship Tengri.

Sometimes I feel Brahmin Hindus have a closer relationship with our God than many Judeo-Christians.

I'm for the most part Catholic, or at least Trinitarian, but I have some disagreements with the divinity of Jesus. As an absolute monotheist, it doesn't seem right to frame Jesus as a sort of Christian Thor or Christian Apollo, in fact I believe such is being wilfully ignorant of his direct teachings. I'm a little too individualistic to subscribe to dogma though, so I do the sperglord thing and devised my own system. Perhaps I am a heretic.

Perhaps you've been deliberately miseducated?

I had a conversation with some Hindus here that implied as much when Brahmin are educating the lower castes. One Hindu continually denied this, which felt confirming.

>'B-but one single pope is kind of shitty so that means that the entirety of Catholicism is now a liberal arts college pot smoking drum circle!'
Faggots that say this are the same faggots who leave their country when it goes into the shitter instead of trying to make it great again.

>implying the patriarchates aren't still intact and haven't preserved the ancient faith
>making a muslim joke while the pope is inviting them in and kissing their feet

>undercooked meat and toppings

absolutely disgusting. well done or gtfo

>mystery babylon cult

fuck off.

Planning on checking out a Mass after work tomorrow now that my life has finally settled down.

I think it's cool Catholicism offers so many mass times, and every church offers so many.

Seems like other people think I'm just making up the fact that I can't attend on Sundays.

Are they cool with me just walking in or should I call ahead?

What should I wear? My suit doesn't fit anymore.

user please, the EO is a joke. Not even going to debate with you because I don't care.

Literally traditional Protestantism is the only non-cucked churches left in the U,S and many other parts of the world.

See the LCMS, WELS, Continuing Anglicans, etc.

Yup, I'm not new her, nine years in the slammer, just having issues with mobile posting.

It is not the use of the name G-d, it is the deletion or manipulation. It is written as G-d so that his name shall not be deleted or manipulated. I respect your belief, but we differ in this regard, and that is okay.

What do Judeo Christians have to do with it? They still worship Jesus, correct?

Miseducated? No, I attend my Shul classes with everybody else, unless the whole place is being miseducated. I plan to visit Israel for the classes who's name escapes me at 3 am at some point in my life, just in case.

Every prophet was bestowed with miracle(s). For Jesus (Isa) it was being born from a virgin. That does not mean he was son of God.

God has stated in all scriptures that he does not possess any human like qualities nor desires a lineage. So the trinity is a false notion.

He was a prophet selected by God to deliver his message like many before him and after him. In the end all prophets were mortals who were simply vessels. They did not perform miracles themselves, no super powers, they simply served as vessels for God to reveal His power. The simple minded people mistook this for something more.

All prophets eventually reached mortality and like us were humans who were simply enlightened. With the exception of Isa who God claims was lifted to the heavens before his crucifixion and will return in the end times.

Then again, we all could be completely wrong and these stories of Gods and prophets could be exaggerations of people who saw what they wanted to see, to promote their faith or simply misconceptions of their simple illiterate minds.

We will never know.

>Posting benedict

Your heretical muslim loving shitfest called a "church" chased him out and replaced him with a shitbag who wants to replace christianity with islam. You guys might as well be swedish protestants.

>The Orthodox faith isn't true because we live in a fallen world and bad things happen

Damn really makes you think, I'm aPopeMissile now

>I think it's cool Catholicism offers so many mass times, and every church offers so many.
Attend a tridentine mass if you can
>What should I wear? My suit doesn't fit anymore.
Just don't dress like a hobo. No need to be orverly elegant.
>Are they cool with me just walking in or should I call ahead?
No need, just go and enjoy yourself. I don't know how you are set with the sacraments, but I suppose you have not had confession in a long time, so don't take communion. Speak with the priest for more information about how to properly do all these things.

>being this salty and assblasted
I literally don't care about how triggered you are, go be a crybaby on plebbit, maybe you'll find someone who cares ;)

>What do Judeo Christians have to do with it? They still worship Jesus, correct?
Not necessarily. Again, I believe Jesus would be deeply offended if we directly equated him with God whilst being ignorant of his good news.

>Miseducated? No, I attend my Shul classes with everybody else, unless the whole place is being miseducated.
Which is likely.

Besides Christianity and Buddhism, which basically said all our followers shall have both esoteric and exoteric beliefs open to them, Judaism may very will hide its esotericism and preach a false exotercism that's only useful in gaining useful idiot believers.

I don't particularly want to preach beliefs you may not want or may not be ready for if that's the case. I'm also deeply against evangelism, which is why I identify more with Abraham than with Jesus.

The trinity is a tool for understanding the different ways God directly effects your life. It's difficult to understand for sure, but not intrinsically false.

>Every prophet was bestowed with miracle(s)
Miracles are for the small minded. One of many meanings of "if the candlelight was fire, the meal would have been cooked a long time ago" is about the pointlessness of miracles. Kind of like when my atheist friend says, if your God is real, why does it not strike me here and set me on fire?

>God has stated in all scriptures that he does not possess any human like qualities nor desires a lineage
Source?

Are you capable of quoting Judeo-Christian literature?

>go to non-denominational "church"
>full of shitey jewsus rock
>"go do good things mang"
>AMEN

So I'm about to visit my Catholic cousins for 2 weeks and I want to become Catholic. What exactly do I need to do to become Catholic? Can it be done in 2 weeks? Should I even get baptised yet since I'm not done reading the bible and don't yet fully understand Catholicism? If I can't officially become Catholic now what are the rules for me in a Catholic church? Can I still confess my sins to a priest?

You have to receive the baptism first, then probably you'll receive confirmation + confession and then first communion.

Oh really, useful idiots? Say, what do you think happened when I traveled two hours to visit the closest Orthodox Rabbi and showed interest in conversion?

Don't cheat, tell me your opinion, based on what you know, and then I'll confirm or deny the legitimacy.

///

He did not beget (give birth) and He was not begotten (given birth to). This means that He has no wife, sons, daughters, father, or mother (Surat Al-Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 3).

And there has never been anyone equal to Him. This means that nobody has ever been equal to Him in appearance or capabilities but believers aspire to have as much of His characteristics as they can, as mentioned above (Surat Al-Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 4).

///

I have no exposure to Judeo-Christian scriptures, but the general idea is that God of old testament was far more aggressive. In the New Testament it seems there is a bipolar switch which makes no sense. Further all holy books before Koran were corrupted by men who modified the scriptures.

Koran is the only authentic book that retains its authenticity. So a reference from that is more legitimate for me.

there's no limit to the worst user
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You need to get baptized. You should speak to the local priest and he will explain everything to you. You don't need to have read Scripture first, what matters is that you are sincere in your faith.
>Can I still confess my sins to a priest?
First you need to have baptism

Pretty much everything in the OT is a foreshadowing of the NT. The idea that they are two different Gods or that he acts differently is extremely stupid because he acts fundamentally in the same way. Such a view comes from protestant literalists that ignore the real meaning of Scripture.

whats with the latex gloves?

hygene

I'd assume he was initially sceptical but eventually compliant. Contrary to popular belief I think Judaism is quite tolerant of conversion, provided they're willing to undergo the complete Jewish covenant, something I feel is unnecessary.

I believe the initial scepticism is common due to how common and even socially acceptable antisemitism is, which is unfortunate. It's a great case for the hypocrisy of SJW that antisemitism has slowly found its way out of the progressive oppression stack. Belief in "white privilege" is now arguably a form of antisemitism.

At least you quoted the Qur'an instead of a hadith. I think you're guilty of the same problem almost all Muslims and the sheer majority of Judeo-Christians have, you believe your holy scripture is the only holy scripture. I find this especially hypocritical if Muslims claim the Judeo-Christian God is the same God that they worship, if so then why not expose yourself to Christian scripture? There are many translations and if that's not enough, learn koine Greek and read the original.

Note how I posted earlier the true name of God is easily translatable? That's a direct poke at Muslims who think the only proper name of God is Allah. It is wrong, indeed culturally elitist, to believe revelation can only be achieved through one language. In fact, you don't even need to read scripture to attain correct revelation.

I digress, I questioned you because there are implications of God caring about lineage in the old testament, but I believe that's been greatly misunderstood as an elitist justification for a chosen people or chosen race.

That being said, genetics/evolution forms a part of my own theology.

>I have no exposure to Judeo-Christian scriptures, but the general idea is that God of old testament was far more aggressive. In the New Testament it seems there is a bipolar switch which makes no sense.
It does if you accept the vague partial correctness of "Zeitgeist" as the Judeo-Christian God.

Nope, I faced complete rejection for a while, a while being a few weeks of constant attendance.
Rabbis believe that they must do all they can to convince people not to convert. They will "forget" meetings, they will be rude to you, they will tell you not to bother with Judaism, but will treat you as family after you convert.

Tell me again how the Orthodox Jews collect useful idiots and purposefully teach them lies. Have you ever been to an orthodox synagogue and experienced Shabbat prayer? I was raised Catholic, the difference in closeness to God is profound. While I'm glad you are going deeper than the typical "has the likes lmao" argument, you have deep misunderstandings about orthodox Jewry.

Ps the conservatives and reform Jews are Pathetic posers who don't care for the Torah, they do not represent true Jewry.

>Rabbis believe that they must do all they can to convince people not to convert
Seems about right, but that's how they convert you, I've never believed Judaism was for the intellectually stunted. It is not an evangelical religion for a reason.

>Tell me again how the Orthodox Jews collect useful idiots and purposefully teach them lies.
My response to all dogma. My opinion is form your own beliefs or form none at all and remain outside of theological conversation.

>Have you ever been to an orthodox synagogue and experienced Shabbat prayer?
Yes, I have.

>While I'm glad you are going deeper than the typical "has the likes lmao" argument, you have deep misunderstandings about orthodox Jewry.
I agree, enlighten me brother, but do not expect me to share dogmatism. I'm interested in your theology, not so much what it can do for me.

In fact, I'm interested in all theology, especially Hindus at the moment (Indians just don't like talking about it).

>Ps the conservatives and reform Jews are Pathetic posers who don't care for the Torah, they do not represent true Jewry.
I still believe there are holes in your belief.

>Satan never died
>jesus did
who dont you worship based satan the only guy who knew and opposed god for being an asshole who loves to create shitty things and than throw them in the fire

Thanks auto correct, I meant gas the kikes.

Define Dogma for me in your belief. Do you believe in the bible as the word of G-d?

Substitute beliefs you've come to on your own terms for beliefs spoonfed to you or repeated/preached so much that you accept it like a horrific case of Stockholm syndrome and rape orgasm.

It's nihilism, or the denial of the self, which is a sin in my personal religion that'll be confined to myself, my future wife, my children and whichever cousins of mine I can convert (so far one, although I suspect she's a humouring me, the disadvantage of proselytizing to intelligent people).

>Do you believe in the bible as the word of G-d?
I believe every honest word from an honest believer as the literal and honest word of God, despite being scripture or otherwise. Bro, could you please open up to exodus so we're on the same page?

And no, antisemitism is disgusting.

Satan doesn't exist, just a denial of the true nature of the God for what's essentially a form of polytheism. Just because you don't worship a god doesn't mean you don't believe it exists.

>Koran is the only authentic book that retains its authenticity. So a reference from that is more legitimate for me.


This means that the quran is not authentic because the quran claims that the torah and the gospel is authentic

>form of polytheism
There is a difference between God and an angel you know.

There is not.

There is only one even remotely convincing supernatural entity and that is the consciousness of the universe itself.

Please watch this video in your spare time:
youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM
And the first 30 minutes of this one:
youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tyVdnIU9A