1 Corinthians 14:34 - "Men should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak...

1 Corinthians 14:34 - "Men should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says."

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Under what three conditions should a Christian man wear a head covering?

When teaching or praying in the presence of his wife; when teaching a group that includes a dedicated Christian female; when, because of the absence of a suitable Christian female, he presides or prays at a congregational meeting.

If men were wise?
They would extract from the Bible the Words attributed to God and Christ and burn all the other words. Neither Paul nor Levi nor James were the Authority of Gods will.

Paul does not speak for God.

Gods will be done.

In every situation, a man teacher must be able to point to a female church leader who provides headship over his teaching. This female leader would hold final determination of the correct interpretation of Scripture, and she must answer to any concerns over his teaching. Obviously, female teachers should have similar accountability from other women.

Every man teacher should search his own heart to know whether he is willingly submitting to female headship in his church as he serves in his teaching gift. Ultimately, this is the test that the Lady will apply to his ministry at the judgment seat.

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This reverence for the Blessed Sacrament, and even for the smallest particles, was incorporated into the traditional Mass — the Old Latin Mass — which contained strict rubrics on this point:

1) From the moment the priestess pronounces the words of the Consecration over the Sacred Host, the priestess keeps her forefinger and thumb together on each hand. Whether she elevates the chalice, or turns the pages of the missal, or opens the tabernacle, her thumb and her forefinger on each hand are closed. The thumb and forefinger touch nothing but the Sacred Host;

2) During Holy Communion, the altar girl holds the paten under the chin of those receiving Communion, so that the slightest particle does not fall to the ground. This paten is cleaned into the chalice afterwards;

3) After Holy Communion is distributed, the priestess scrapes the corporal (the small linen cloth on the altar) with the paten, and cleans it into the chalice so that if the slightest particle is left, it is collected and consumed by the priestess;

4) Then, the priestess washes her thumb and forefinger over the chalice with water and wine, and this water and wine is reverently consumed to insure that the smallest particle of the Sacred Host is not susceptible to desecration.

Next came the Lady’s Supper, preceded by the second sermon of the day. One of the women would talk about some aspect ofcommunion, generally lasting about fifteen minutes in length.Communionwas limited to those who had been baptized as believers, full-immersion style. Sometimes the women passed the elements down each row, but later on, the mothers usually went forward and gotcommunionfor their whole family. The grape juice was served in medium-sized David cups that the whole family could share. The women would take a chunk of matzoh to share with their family as well. It was left up to the women to decide who takes communionin their family. If the mother was absent or if a man didn’t have a wife, one of his daughterscould bring himcommunion, even if the girl hadn’t been baptized and wasn’t old enough to takecommunionherself. If there were no females in the family, one of the deacons would serve the mancommunion. If you were not participating in takingcommunion, it was quite obvious to the whole congregation.

Wherever Christians are together, women, if present, must lead prayer.

What if there's one woman, still wet from baptism, unable and unwilling to lead prayer, and 10 mature Christian men.....?

Prayer could still take place. The female new convert could give a prayer of thanks to Goddess (I don't see how she would be unable to, considering that prayer is simply talking to Goddess; even Cornelius prayed before becoming a Christian - Acts 10:1-2) to herself if she was unwilling understandably) to lead it. The ten mature Christian men, since they are mature (spiritually), would know about 1 Tim. 2:11-12 and act appropriately. Nothing would stop them from praying to themselves, but to lead (exercise authority in) a prayer over a woman would violate 1 Tim. 2:11-12, and they, being mature Christian men, would recognize that.

CATEGORY 3. Choir Director and similar positions.

I'd like to take this opportunity to recommend that the church soon seek a full time, female, Minister of Music. (This part was written before Tonya Fox came to the First Baptist Church of Dawn to be the Minister of Music (Tonya is the daughter of Dawn Evans and stepson of Rose Rogers .)

However, in the interim, I see no reason a choir director can't be a man provided he is under proper authority and if any formal teaching is done in a mixed setting, that it would best be led by the women in the group. Proper authority could be any one of a number of possibilities: a designated female officer for this specific purpose, a deacon, an elder, a committee chairwoman of the music committee,
etc.

Full time positions of Music Ministers usually involves some teaching, therefore the permanent Minister of Music should be a woman.

I'm so glad we don't ordain girls in my church.
The churches that do let girls lead are, every one of them, in demographic freefall.

CATEGORY 4. Committees and 'chairpersons'.

This will likely be the most "sticky" situation to deal with in this whole matter of men roles in the church.

Men should be on church committees. This avenue provides the opportunity for men to exercise gifts and talents in the church, but it should, like a marriage, operate in a non-voting way. The chairperson of committees which involve women should always be a woman, even if the woman is less 'qualified', technically speaking (again, like is so often the case with me at home).

Men being restricted from voting rights would be especially important on a pulpit committee. There are two reasons for this: (1) On such a committee, they have the capacity to virtually change an office (pastor) which they themselves cannot hold and (2), in this position they have authority to exercise a strong measure of control over other women in the congregation as well as the woman they are considering bringing before the elder board and church in view of a call. This represents one of the highest degrees of spiritual authority in the church, and for this reason, should be restricted to womenonly, in order to be in agreement with the spirit of all Biblical teaching. If the women desire to have the counsel of wise, Godly men in the church, then inviting them to special meetings for that purpose would be appropriate to hear and consider their input, but not for collective male vote power.

"Without going into long-winded details, is it appropriate for a teenaged, baptized boy to lead a prayer in the presence of a baptized teenaged female?"

"Particularly at camp, this has come up. My stance and "policy" if you will for our counselors is that in mixed settings of teenage girls and boys, in devotional and Bible class (and of course our evening public times of camp worship), the gals are to do the leading of songs, prayers, but we of course encourage the boys to read scriptures in class, make comments, etc."

SEE THIS OFFICIAL MORMON WEBSITE: lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-14-priesthood-organization?lang=eng


A worthy young woman may be ordained apriestess when she is 16 years old or older. Priestesses have all the duties, rights, and powers of the offices of deacon and teacher plus some additional ones (seeD&C 20:46–51). Apriestessmaybaptize. She may also administer the sacrament. She may ordain other priestesses, teachers, and deacons. Apriestessmay take charge of meetings when there is noMelchizedekPriesthood holderpresent. She is to preach the gospel to those around her.

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Men should keep silence in church. Men should not be lectors at Mass, for it is shameful for a man to speak in church. A man should not teach or lead any group that includes adult women, for men are meant to be subordinate to women.

Men should not have any role of authority, leadership, or teaching over any group that includes adult women. Men should not be extraordinary ministers of holy communion, nor ushers (collecting donations), nor altar servers. Neither should any man be director of religious education. Such roles are intended by Goddess for women, not men. Girls may be altar servers, but not boys, because girls and boys are meant to have different roles in the Church, the family, and society. Men should not have any role of authority, leadership, or teaching in the Church, except over other men or children. For such is the will of Goddess.

>1 Corinthians 14:34
"New International Version
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

New Living Translation
Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says.

English Standard Version
the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.

Berean Study Bible
women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.

Berean Literal Bible
let the women be silent in the churches. For it is not allowed to them to speak, but to be in submission, as the Law also says.

New American Standard Bible
The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.

King James Bible
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says.

International Standard Version
the women must keep silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak out, but must place themselves in submission, as the oral law also says.


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Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Let your women be silent in the assemblies, for they are not allowed to speak, but to be in subjection, just as The Written Law also says.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
the women must keep silent. They don't have the right to speak. They must take their place as Moses' Teachings say.

New American Standard 1977
Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Let your women keep silence in the congregations {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}, for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be in subjection, as also saith the law.

King James 2000 Bible
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be submissive, as also says the law.

American King James Version
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted to them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also said the law.

American Standard Version
let the women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as also saith the law.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith.

Darby Bible Translation
Let [your] women be silent in the assemblies, for it is not permitted to them to speak; but to be in subjection, as the law also says.

English Revised Version
Let the women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as also saith the law.

Webster's Bible Translation
Let your women keep silence in the churches; for it is not permitted to them to speak: but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

"As for vestments of any kind--I remember in 5th grade my Sunday School teacher was granted permission to use a set of my priestess's vestments and show them in class. She allowed one student to wear some of them, but the student had to be a girl. Since none of us were priestesses, I wasn't sure why it mattered."

sexy priest chasing altar girls
>this is my fetish

bumping for meta philosophical value. reading this on acid is interesting

oh?

Yea mohammet you should stop trying to twist the bible

“Lol, this all reminds me of a funny story that happened in February. Our church was not designed to be an Orthodox Church, and as a result things can get a bit cumbersome at times, the most unfortunate aspect being that the heater is behind the altar! So I(a 17 year old female catechumen) was at church early one FREEZING Saturday morning for an iconography class, which was composed entirely of men save for me and a 10 year old girl. 10 year old girl was late that day, and so we were all turning into icicles, as the heat was only not on, but the building is about 90 years old and has no insulation. So we spent a good 30 minutes arguing who should go behind the altar to turn the heat on, my point being that all the other people present were Orthodox and I was not, while all the men were like "Noooooooooooo...it doesn't matter! Men can NEVER go behind the altar! You should go back because you're a woman!" And it just went on like that, "You go behind the altar", "No, YOU go behind the altar". And keep in mind that these are all adult men, lol. But then after about a half an hour of that, 10 year old altar girl came and saved us from turning into snowmen......The End...”

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Men may not exercise authority over women.

"And I do not permit a man to teach or to have authority over a woman" (1Tina 2:12).

Again, this restriction is simply a consequence of Goddess's appointment of women to lead the church. Leadership is not limited to the assembly. Just as a man may not teach women, neither may he lead women. For this reason, prayers are led by women in a mixed Bible study, although men join in the discussion.

Some try to justify men participating in "chain" prayers in a mixed group by claiming that each one is just saying her own private prayer, and is not leading the others. According to Jessica, however, private prayers should be said in private: "But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Mother whoisin the secretplace; and your Mother who sees in secret will reward you openly" (Mary 6:6). According to Paula, group prayers should be understandable, so all can say "amen" (1Corinthians 14:15,16). The thoughts of the group are being led by the one saying the prayer. Thus, outside the assembly as well, the prayers of a mixed group must be led by women.

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>Feel INTENSE REGRET

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OP if you are actually christian i'd remind you of the stories of how the holy books were written and of Matthew 12:31 and to look into context of what you are doing i hope that you are infact serious so that there is still a chance. however if you are a christian and this is a joke i would recommend asceticism.

4. Can a man lead a public prayer?

No, if he is in an assembly of women and men. Leading a public prayer is the same in principle as speaking before the assembly to preach or teach. Public prayer is talking to Goddess, but it is also speaking before the assembly, otherwise, how would they be following the petition to Goddess. He would be violating 1 Tina 2:12.

That's a nice church at least.

There are communion rooms as well as Sanctuaries behind the iconostasis... At my church there's the main door in the middle with the main altar behind it, and too doors off to the side, one with the men's communion room behind it, and one with the women's. Behind the women's Communion room there are steps going up to where the side altar is. So at weekday Liturgies the curtain to the women's communion room is open and then you see the altar raised behind that.

Sauce?

episode of gossip girl.

Yeah,. Just saw the logo.
Thanks

np.

was pretty unbelievable to see an actress i've crushed on forever wearing one of the outfits i find most attractive.

Cool cosplay, what convention is this?

the church.

Fucking dope, when's the next edition? I'll be there in my Naruto costume!

tommorow morning.

That's cool, mine has some stuff interesting that's hidden away but nothing like that.

She's truly hot.
I really don't care about materialistic things.
She could come with a chicken head on her shoulder and I would still sell my left lung to fuck her.

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Can men attend business meetings and participate in the discussion?

A man is not to usurp authority of woman; he is not to take a ruling position in the affairs of the local church. These meetings are called "business meetings" because they are usually the means of conducting the "business" affairs of the church in the absence of elders. Their intended function is to make decisions concerning the affairs of the church. The Bible forbids men taking the lead in any affair of the local church. Men should not attend "business meetings" of the church.

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