If America had not drop nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then it's reasonable to assume that Japan would not have surrendered, meaning only way to achieve victory is through invasion of the mainland Japan, this would have taken an extra few months to prepare.
In this time, the USSR (who were in Manchuria) would have had time to prepare an invasion of their own, this would lead to a similar situation in Germany and Korea, where Japan would be partitioned between a communist and capitalist state.
If we look at North Korea, many millions have died from famine since its creation and its citizens live in abject terror and misery, compare that to the 200,000 lives that were lost in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it is reasonable to say their deaths were worth the sacrifice of half of Japan living in terror and misery.
Kevin Rodriguez
North Japan, Best Japan
Joshua Turner
everyone's ignoring the elephant in the room
japan never asked for an apology
Noah Wilson
if they didn't deserve it before, they sure do now
Juan Moore
there is no need to justify it >more people would have died during an invasion >communist north japan with the upper island annexed >japan soldiers performed war crimes en masse and still didnt apologize for it
Alexander Roberts
There's a lot of fags on this board asking for an apology however
Jackson Lewis
Japan got cucked by the U.S. end of story
Evan Roberts
Fucking Obama appologizing for 2 nukes, when The Japanese slaughtered and raped their way through south east Asia.
Fucking Liberals.
Isaac Roberts
Nice Stalinist apologist shit. USSR annexation wouldn't of happened and the US invasion would of induced more net deaths on US soldiers and the Japanese populace.
Nuking Japan ended up with them becoming an ally that overcame the postwar challenge to become a major economic power.
Michael Lee
That's what we're all saying though. Obama's apology tour is ridiculous.
Juan Price
Have you seen the museum? They pretty much are
Jonathan Gray
Lame duck needs to cement his """"""""""legacy."""""""""" He's our 420eau before 420eau was relevant.
Evan Morgan
Yeah that sucks, please link to the 'apology' part. We didn't get it in the States...
Landon Cox
so much for japan never being conquered
Jeremiah Green
Well they still aren't getting one.
Kayden Morgan
>japan never asked for an apology cause they never really "surrendered" and just did "endure the unendurable and suffer what is not sufferable"
Sebastian Richardson
First and last black president. Soon you'll pay reparations when a muslim immigrant from Iran decides to give 10% of the GDP, over the next 10 years, as reparations to "Native Americans" and the African American community.
Sebastian Johnson
Well, Korea might have been unified and able to pursue a more cohesive development path. Instead of hard line Spartan Juche in the north and 40 years of diaspora junta in the south that ended up with them turning into self mutilating dog munching fat Jesus freaks devoid of their national heritage.
Similarly, post war Japan was able to stop Ainu shit in without protest, whereas we might have had an autonomous Hokkaido. Plus the Soviet Union and military standoff on the Japanese home islands would have kept the militaristic culture of the feudalistic era. Samurai descendent officers on both sides. No Chinese cartoons. ETC.
So all things are a trade off.
Jacob Roberts
Still salty about Singapore? Don't worry Britcuck, the Pakis will create another Empire for you.
Aaron Sanders
>Still salty about Singapore? >the Pakis will create another Empire for you
im Irish you Yankee prick, i don't give a shit keep ruining your own countries all you want while we fight for whats left of ours.
Jaxson Perez
Firebombs work on rice paddies too. Wait 1 year, all nips starved. Walk in, enjoy scenery.
Joseph Lopez
This, even old Japanese people thinks that apology is meaningless
Chase Harris
Going by how the Japanese faught on the Pacific Islands, I'd say that statement is very naive.
The moral of the Japanese military could not be defeated by a moral "let's bomb their cities" approach. The only way to remove the Japanese Imperial army was to defeat it in open combat, or as the US did, with technological supremacy.
The US intelligence expected that an invasion of Japan would cost 100s of thousand of American military casualities.