During the cold war, under the Soviet regime, most of Russia's enemies were culturally conservative alongside of their capitalist economic policies --- its a matter of historical fact that Soviet Russia spread Cultural Marxist propaganda throughout the west, strengthened things like 3rd wave feminism and the gay rights movements in hopes of destabilizing its enemies.
Now, we have a growing movement of conservative causes in an overwhelmingly culturally liberal western society. We have the alt right and ethnonationalist movements popping up all over the western world, threatening to destabilize what has otherwise become a stable culturally liberal society.
In particular, in Europe, alt right parties and anti-EU parties are causing issues in the EU that may lead to it falling a part, which would end the EU sanctions against Russia.
We need to stop buying into this culture war bullshit, its more important that we have stable nations in the west then a certain set of cultural policies. We need to focus on pushing our economic policies and make sure that we remain the economic superpowers of the world, or Russia will win.
TL;DR - Russia is a propaganda master and always has been. It has fueled the culture wars as a means to destabilize its enemies in order to remain supreme. Your alt right ideology is just the latest example of that.
Actually, too, now that I think about it, it may very well be that this board itself contains Russian propaganda agents that try to stir up support for unpopular culturally-fueled political positions in order to cause dissent in the West.
Isaiah Nelson
I know you all constantly accuse people of being CIA shills and JIDF shills, but its more likely that Sup Forums is infested with Russian Federation FIS shills.
Owen Scott
As a matter of fact cultural Marxism was stared in 1923 in Frankfurt University in Germany withe the institute of social research which developed critical theory and other kikery. They later moved to the US when the NSDAP came to power. The role of the USSR in all of this is minimal to say the least.
Luke Smith
You don't know the history of German communism, do you? The KPD in weimar, lead by Ernst Thaelmann, was almost 100% funded by the newly form Soviet Union. The Franfkfurt school was directly affiliated with the KPD, it was essentially connected rather directly to the Soviets.
Benjamin Baker
> culturally-fueled political positions
Well what would those be? American propaganda is basically gay this gay that transgender bathrooms muh holocaust, democracy for the middle east , Salon/Buzfeed feminism, climate change, white privilege and immigration.
It's very easy for Russia to cook up counter-propaganda for that.
Back in the Cold War America stood for Capitalism, Christianity, Democracy and traditional values.
This is one of the founding members of the Frankfurt school, who was also a member of the Spartacus League, which later became the KPD. Both of those groups were funded and backed by the Soviet Union.
Chase Foster
I'm not saying they weren't affiliated I'm suggesting that Communism already had a solid foundation in place particularly in Germany way before the Russian revolution.
Eli James
Cold war: Russia advanced cultural marxism. 90s: Cultural marxism took hold as the primary culture of the US. 2000s: Russia advances ethnonationalism.
Luke Cruz
Uhm, no, actually, 1923 is several years after the Russian revolution, the soviets were directly involved in the founding of the Frankfurt school and by way of such, the founding of Cultural Marxism.
The Marxism that existed before the frankfurt school was not cultural marxism, it was more similar to NSDAP then it was to the feminist oppression olympics shit we have today.
Landon Collins
It's filled with all sorts, not to be self-aggrandize ourselves too much. Putin-bots and JIDF are well-documented though.
I'm sure Russia does support far-right and nationalist movements in Europe, and they certainly want the EU to collapse, but while the Soviet Union certainly funded subversive communist movements, they were ultimately no more responsible for Communism itself anymore than they are for the alt-right or progressive globalism.
Jaxson Myers
IT WAS DA ROOOOSIANS
Colton Watson
I for one welcome our Russian comrades in the fight against western faggotry.
William Mitchell
They fuel the culture war - they bankroll it and they aggravate it --- the most extreme groups on either side either currently now have a connection to Russia or stemmed from organizations originally founded by Russian bankrolling in during the Cold War.
Ayden King
>stable culturally liberal society
You're fucking delusional m8
William Foster
Too bad for you, because as soon as the West becomes culturally conservative again, the Russians will stop supporting you and start giving money to cultural marxists again, to make sure we are always in a perpetual culture war.
Nathaniel Nelson
During the Cold War Russia did not advance cultural Marxism within itself or within any of the states within its sphere of influence. Cultural Marxism was completely absent in Russia East Europe, China, Vietnam, North Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua etc. Or even proper terrorist groups that the USSR supported like the Red Faction, Colombian FARC Black Panthers etc.
Soviet Communism was aimed towards the working class thing while Cultural Marxism is an academic bourgeois phenomenon.
Western Torskyists (later-naeocons and Berniefags) never particularly liked the USSR since a proper revolution would take their shit away so they opted for Democraticc Socialism.
They also adopted culture war from Antonio Gramsci and opted for a long march through the insituttions capturing every single power institution like government media, academia, Hollywood etc. Essentially they would attempt and are attempting to gradually eliminate every form of social contradiction like race, religion etc until only the class contradiction remains
Ayden Peterson
>Gramsci >russian
>stable culturally liberal society. >import millions of turd worlders >native europeans getting older >euro debt crisis >rapefugee crisis >welfare crisis
wrong on both accounts go shill somewhere else
Carson Edwards
Still paranoid of the bogeyman? Good old west, it's still the same
Carter Lopez
i would rather russia takes over the world than islam
Landon Walker
Exactly my point, they knew it was a destablizing factor, just like they know the alt right is a destablizing factor now -- they don't push alt right shit in their own country, they don't support Nazbols.
Nicholas Wilson
Oy vay ut's the Russians goys, look over there goys! we need you to fight the russians now goys!
Whites against Whites for your banker overlords!
The winner gets to be our pets!
Be good goys now! It was always those soviets now trying to hurt you! Not the jewish people who taught all the soviet tricks!
Oy Vey
Angel Morales
Nice Portuguese proxy you have there, FIS shill.
Adam Flores
Just because your a cock sucking faggot doesn't mean I'm going to stop being conservative and let you get away with wanting to suck them in public.
Brayden Wood
>We have the alt right and ethnonationalist movements popping up all over the western world, threatening to destabilize what has otherwise become a stable culturally liberal society. >Nationalism is bad for you goys, we need the EU globalist plan has to advance at all costs! Ignore the hords of rapefugees and denbts!
Brody Johnson
Fuck Russia, lets be like Brazil!
Ian Morales
You know what you are doing, why else did your government expand a state-funded global news agency and build regional headquarters for it in Washington D.C. -- if not to push your propaganda to fuel our culture war and keep us from being as cohesive a society as yours?
Joseph Myers
Russians aren't white you fucking idiot - they are mongoloid slavs that squat everywhere. Hitler would be very disappointed with your clear lack of understanding of the term Aryan.
Liam Rodriguez
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William Torres
I think they would be more comfortable with having West full of fags and Bernie Sanders supporters thank having them full of nationalists personally. For example I highly doubt that they had anything to do with Poland electing a far right party.
In Europe their shills are Die Lienke or whatever the fuck they are called George Galloway leftist type faggots and that's who their RT propaganda is geared towards.
William Rivera
>Russians aren't white you fucking idiot
Looks pretty white to me fgt
Oliver Watson
Oy vey!
YOU ARE RIGHT SIR, NOW I'M READY TO DIE FOR ISRAEL!
Kevin Walker
Sup Forums didn't even become popular until about the time Russia Today became a popular global news source.
I wonder if Alex Jones is bankrolled by the Ruskies too.
Luis Perry
I agree with you.
The Putin worship is getting ridiculous on Sup Forums. They literally invent fake quotes to convince themselves that Putin is against the Jews and Muslims.
Jack Hernandez
OP, take off your proxy, we know you're an FSB spy trying to make everyone think that Russia controls the world from the shadows.
See, it's really easy to blame literally anything on pretty much anybody.
Easton James
that's why Putin is alligning with the greek commies kek git out jidf
Aiden Clark
wow that really made me think
Nicholas Campbell
The Russians have been quietly playing both sides to try to create domestic tension in the US for quite some time. If you hadn't figured that one out you're probably just stupid
Camden Bennett
Its really a fucking shame, those of you who live in western countries and support Russia. Russia is now and has always been the greatest enemy of the west. We should have fucking nuked it in the cold war. Its a nation of mongoloids who want to destroy the aryan race by taking over Europe.
Luis Flores
You're just proving my point - Putin/Russia align with whatever group serves to destabilize the west.
Cooper Cook
Anybody who has researched Putin kicking Soros out of the country and being attacked himself knows this is a JDIF thread.
Remember when Putin made being gay illegal? Remember when FEMIN was in the media for trying to "shut it down" in Russia?
I'm a good goy like the next.
Not buying this thread, I know who brought Marxism here Mr. Goldberg. (AKA OP.)
I know the Frankford school of Marxism.
Days without Jewish Tricks guys, zero.
Jace Collins
Exactly, but look at how many people on this post are freaking out and saying that could never be true....We're losing to the russians.
Jackson Adams
Right wing parties are popping up in Europe because we've been invaded by Muslims and our politicians are too scared or uninterested in doing anything about it. Nothing to do with Russians.
Kevin Torres
>The Putin worship is getting ridiculous on Sup Forums. They literally invent fake quotes to convince themselves that Putin is against the Jews and Muslims.
This hasn't been true since before Ukraine. Sup Forums's opinion of Putin has considerably hardened since then.
And also, it's not necessary anymore because most major Western countries now have successful or semi-successful nationalist parties/figures. The love of Putin was just our projection of what we wanted to see in our own leaders. Now that we have that, it's unnecessary and we've become more critical.
Now we're just sympathetic at best. It's like Hitler and Mussolini.
Brody Cooper
You clearly don't know anything as there is no such thing as the "Frankford" school.
Its the Frankfurt school and it was started by Mercuse and his other KPD friends who were funded by the Soviet Union.
James Sanchez
Well what do you propose we do about it? We are already openly hostile to Russia. The West just needs to revamp its propaganda department which has become shit.
Camden Foster
>Look goys Russia is trying to destroy Europe! >Not the eurocuck leaders who are importing millions of rapefugees and wrecking the economy!
Samuel Cook
Haha I was here before that, I always checked out RT.
Before Trump showed up I watched Alex, and I knew he was a double agent.
I didn't know about the Zionist conspiracy before Trump showed up, I thought the Illuminati hide among the Jews.
Now I know the Illuminati have taken over and are hiding and teaching among the Jews. They are basically trying to bring back old Child Sacrificing Israel days.
Gabriel Brown
However plenty of the alt right is waking up to the bullshit.
The Alt right might be the first movement to go against its creators and create a better nationalist world.
Wyatt Nelson
Of course we fucking have. Just like US have been sponsoring our opposition in Russia. That's how the world works, John. China these days is literally paying Australia to have Chinese propaganda courses in public schools.
Nathan Diaz
We need to employ the same tactics they use. We need to destabilize their nation by funding and assisting insurgencies and countercultures in Russia itself. Clapping at their fags and feminists isn't going to do it. We need to like... give chechyna weapons.
Nolan Rodriguez
dah rushins is literally a worse meme than dah joos
I can't believe that there are still some people on this board that think Sup Forums is not satire.
Jason Bailey
You're losing to the Russians because neoliberalism is inherently unsustainable ideology and your own population is starting to hate it because they profit less and less. Not to mention the social breakdown your countries are experiencing. That has nothing to do with Russians really. Nor do Russians have or historically had any master plans for conquering world. On the other hand, USA... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine I suggest you educate yourself a bit, if you aren't a shill.
Hudson Morris
Sums up the tread, everyone here can research the topics or listen to shills.
Cameron Flores
If the CIA doesn't already fund Chechens or other secessionists in Russia then the CIA is retarded.
Nolan Brown
We also need to fucking yell at our politicians and tell them to stop either being weak ass pussies to putin or trying to buddy up to him and be his friends. We need politicians who tell him he can go fuck right off and die.
Joshua Jackson
>China these days is literally paying Australia to have Chinese propaganda courses in public schools. Wait, seriously?
Gavin Bell
Well tell that to all the Trumpfags
Noah Cox
They wouldn't be able to fuel the culture wars if the wars weren't already happening in the first place.
The American intelligentsia was already infatuated with Marxism well before the Russian Revolution.
I'm certainly no left-winger, but I at least have a certain amount of respect for the old-school socialists and communists.
I don't think they'd put up with the New Left bullshit.
I'm certainly not a Putin shill, but that pales in comparison to the propaganda we receive on a daily basis from our media.
John Howard
Reminder that the alt-right is the on the different side of the same coin that SJW liberalism is on.
Jose Walker
Well damn, that'd be great to see, I honestly don't care which side of the culture war wins, so long as we stop letting our enemies keep us in a constant state of polarized bickering.
God damn it, it's obviously not baka.com, it's sмh.com. Fuck off mods
Nathaniel Turner
First, I have no idea why are you focusing on ''Mercuse'' (it's Marcuse), when Adorno was the main ''member'' of Frankfurt School. Second, I know you didn't read a single work associated with Frankfurt School. They literally shat on Soviet Union as much as they could. Very very few Western Marxists were funded or had ties with USSR.
Andrew Gomez
"The russians are my friend! The evil imperialist US must die!"
Am I watching an episode of the Black Channel in East germany, circa 1985?
Jordan Gonzalez
I'd bet it is retarded, otherwise we wouldn't be losing so badly.
Jace Moore
You already doing that you idiot.
Nathaniel Wilson
Sleep agent here. OP is right.
At what point can you blame Russia? Isn't your arch-Jews in charge of practicing what the old Soviet developed? Isn't your think-tank merged so deep into multiculturalism and liberalism.
Its easy to point fingers, but its YOUR NATION, YOUR SOCIETY the ones to blame. Not Putin who only wants to make Russia united and less shitty than it is thanks to communism.
Kevin Morales
>mfw the west is so stupid that a pied piper can lead you off a cliff
Julian Moore
Exactly my point, and the coin was minted on a Russian press.
Hilary? Lol wat, she's a weak fucking piece of shit just like Obama. Both Trump and Hilary are not going to stand up to Russia.
Jace Richardson
I'm an Orthodox Serb you moron, of course Russians are my ''friends''. It's easy spouting shit about how ''nationalism is Russian plot'' when you're idiotic American who doesn't even know what nationalism means, or what nation is. >The evil imperialist US must die! Imperialist US must die. America as a state, who fucking cares dude? I wish you best luck in your endeavors.
Gabriel Jones
hammer and anvil?
Colton Hughes
there is a filer for the short form of shaking my head
Hudson Bailey
Also, Ayn Rand was a Russian jew who moved to America
make you think huh?
Cooper Ross
But ussr itself was never pro-feminist,pro-gay or pro-jew
Carson Barnes
Russian are so obsessed with the West. Meanwhile China only has to send a dozen millions into East Russia and gain land with protests and unrest. And lets not ignore your majority Muslim cities in the Caucasus.
Levi Martinez
>Meanwhile China only has to send a dozen millions into East Russia which they have not and will never do because they are not allowed, not to mention the native minorities hate Chinese because they are oppressing their Mongol cousins, and because Russians are the majority in most of Siberia, barring Tuva and Yakutia. Also China and Russia have no outstanding territorial disputes.
Jacob Scott
I said ethnonationalism, not nationalism. Ethnonationalism destabilizes western nations because its predicated on the idea that there is an ethnic group that owns a certain nation - most western nations, especially the US, do not have a cohesive ethnic group for that, we're a fucking nation of immigrations. We need 20th century cold war nationalism, not this neonazi shit, your neonazi shit just turns us against ourselves, and you know it, fucking yugo piece of shit.
Christopher Thomas
lolbertarian are A-OK with degeneracy
Jack Martin
More like deluded fantasies of a dumb American, who's also conveniently ignoring that America IS LITERALLY DOING THE SHIT HE'S ACCUSING RUSSIANS OF. He's either a shill or autistic retard who can't see why would right-wing gain power in Europe (hint: mass immigration, extreme social liberalism, economic problems).
Colton Gray
>But ussr itself was never pro-feminist,pro-gay or pro-jew that's western marxists which btw orthodox marxists (eastern) didn't even consider communist op is a jew shill report, sage, hide
William Wood
No, but they would back said idiots inside of western countries to weaken them. Now, the the opposition flipped, but the policy is still essentially the same
Thomas Roberts
Damn the Slav was the omnipotent cryptoJew all along. Really makes you think
Jace Peterson
s m h filters to baka because fucking mods
Owen Wood
>Ethnonationalism destabilizes western nations because its predicated on the idea that there is an ethnic group that owns a certain nation - most western nations, especially the US, do not have a cohesive ethnic group for that The US is the only western nation which is this the case for. Brits dominated Britain, French dominated France, Germans dominated Germany etc for most of western history.
Aiden Howard
russia would have been breddy cool if they didn't get rused by commie jews really hard
Hunter Hill
This thread is a propaganda creation. You Hillary shills are not being paid enough to be clever, are you?
Christopher Jones
>I said ethnonationalism, not nationalism. Ethnonationalism destabilizes western nations because its predicated on the idea that there is an ethnic group that owns a certain nation - most western nations, especially the US, do not have a cohesive ethnic group for that, we're a fucking nation of immigrations. We need 20th century cold war nationalism, not this neonazi shit, your neonazi shit just turns us against ourselves, and you know it, fucking yugo piece of shit. >See goys ethnonationalism is bad! >Except in Israel, which you have to die for! >Instead, defend bullshit meaningless civic nationalism while importing millions of turd worlders! Remember, race is only skin deep!
James Jackson
I'm ok with Buckley tier cuckservatism and immigrants as long as they're white and as long as Christianity dominates society
Isaiah Ramirez
>ethnonationalism, not nationalism. What the fuck are you talking about? >most western nations, especially the US, do not have a cohesive ethnic group Ehhh, yes they do, you fucking moron? You don't, European nations absolutely do have ''cohesive ethnic groups''. >not this neonazi shit ...
Oliver Gutierrez
>have no outstanding territorial disputes
Don't you think China will like to be next to Europe? They do, they have the monies.
Its nothing personal its business.
Camden Brooks
That's absolutely without a doubt. Cultural marxism especially was used by the KGB to infiltrate and change the course of Western academia in the 60s.
Putin was a KGB agent himself, he is no doubt extremely well versed in propaganda and subversion. RT has been the biggest Russian voice; if you want to see what their agenda is, look what they report on. The Russians are playing both sides - they started the cultural marxism movement in the West, and then fund far right groups. The goal is destabilization.
We better wise up to what the Russians are doing FAST, or prepare to bend over and take it when they begin WW3.
Jason Williams
whats your proof? 1 video that US government could have and probably did manufacture?
