How good is CR7 really? I have friends who think he isn't that good...

How good is CR7 really? I have friends who think he isn't that good, his team does everything and he just takes the credit for himself. Is that accurate?

good thread

No.

cringe

cringe

He has got more goals than matches played for RM.

Even if you bring up the "b-b-but he stat pads against shit teams" it doesn't change the fact that him and Messi are two of the best players in football history and we are definitely going to miss them when they retire.

good bread

I miss Messi already.

Where the fuck does this
>lol Ronaldo has gone downhill Meme come from?
Barcucks?
He literally just scored all but one of Real's Goals aside from one in the last 2 legs.

2 offside goals

wow nice thread op

what shitty damage control is this? just wait till he has a shit game so he can diss him all you want, trying to bullshit your way into saying Ronaldo's performance against Bayern was bad is completely retarded

superb thread

>le scores 50 goals every year but isnt actually talented man even though only 1 other person in the entire planet does the same man

the team is very good, but he's the best of the team and has been for the past decade or so.
it's universally recognized as such by everybody, press, his rivals, his haters, his managers, his teammates, his club, his stats and above all his salary

he's world class etc phenomenal player but also really helped by the fact his world class team is built around getting him to score goals

I'd say it's 60/40

He isn't as exciting as he used to be. He was a fucking mindblowing winger when he was younger but now he is just a 10/10 goal poacher.

Suarez got 60. Zlatan got 50 last season. Cavani is going to do it.

In the era of the super teams its pretty standard now.

>just a 10/10 goal poacher
he's also an expert penalty taker, a good free-kick taker, the best shooter outside the box in the planet, WC counter-attack playmaker, WC heading specialist and the world of football still hasn't produced a better off-the-ball movement specialist, and won't in the foreseeable future

>a good free-kick taker

LEL

has the highest free kick conversion rate in lel liga iirc

>penalty taking
>outside the box shooting
>counter attackingplaymaker
>heading specialist

None of that is excluded from what I said, Barbosa.

If Manchester United had a 10/10 goal poacher, they would be 1st in the EPL, instead of fighting for the 4th place.

Supreme goalscorer, but I have a hard time taking him seriously as a GOAT contender. Watching him play I have never thought to myself 'wow this guy is far better than everyone' and that's just in his own generation, nevermind history. He's a machine in the box but the rest of his game doesn't look any better than you're average top level player.

after that injury he picked up in 2013 i can honestly say I don't enjoy watching him outside of goal highlights. his dribbling has been atrocious for the most part and i havent seen any amazing passes from him either

and he is still scoring 4/5 a season, just a couple of free kicks of catching Beckham who is renowed for that speciality (it was basically the only thing he was good at).
>says "just a poacher"
>then says other specialties aren't excluded
>american education

I doubt that. Didn't he go something like 85 free kicks without scoring?

Holy shit Jorge, a goal poacher is a playing style not a specific set of abilities. And what fucking poacher couldn't score with their head or take penalties? Goddamn, you are so stupid.

>what does "just" mean.
>i'm american, please n-no bully

Still 2 offside goals.

What did I say you ignorant fuck?
>a goal poacher is a playing style not a specific set of abilities

Can Ronaldo dribble? Yes he can. Is that part of his style? Not really, his style is a goal poacher, not a creator or a target man.

>In the era of the super teams its pretty standard now.

suarez and zlatan had 1 season in their entire carrers with 50+ goals

>I wanted to say "his style is" but I said "he's just a", I'm american, why are you complaining?
You're right, I apologize. I know you people are special.

can you repeat the question

who gives a fuck what you and your monkey friends think nigga

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I'm sorry the knowledge of a poacher being a style and not a set of abilities is too difficult for a nigger to comprehend.

It's true, the team is built around giving him tap ins and he is no where near as good as an actually GOAT player like Messi who is one of the best playmakers and passers in the world while also on par with penaldo as a goalscorer. He's an extremely narcissistic and over-marketed tap in merchant but you'd be a fool not to jump on the TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU meme train

Depends what you're looking at. He's greedy and isn't that good creative player anymore. He's one if the best finishers in the game though.

pretty much

>guaranteed replies

Yeah this is fake, I remember messis was like a lot better

He's a monster. I'm not one of those underage kids that only have seen CR and Messi and think they are the best ever.

But if you have ever played fooball, you'd know just how hard it is to do the things he does as consistently as he does. Watch the replay of his first goal vs Bayern last week. He hits that ball while running back and midair. Watch a closeup slow mo if you can. Sup Forums autists will tell you those are "tap ins" and anyone can do them...lol that is just not true

the second one is just as hard desu, he shoots downwards

the third one was the hardest of all... what a difficult goal and definitely not a tap in like spee told me.

never trust spee!

Calma, 55
Já passou

I don't know, he looks like someone who produce nothing in the game, but the team help him since unlike Barcelona, all the real madrid work for Cristiano Ronaldo just kick the ball and make nothing in the whole game.

Messi is forced to be a winger in Barcelona dribling and passe and forced to let Suarez more fixed and divide his position with Neymar who is a faillure

Barcelona have 13% better results without Neymar in the game, i viewed this before this game against real madrid.

Real Madrid have better defense and i wanted to give Neymar and Suarez for Barcelona to force them remove Cristiano Ronaldo of his position and the teams start to become divided in work for 3 players wanting to be considered better in the team and the media here shilling against Cristiano Ronaldo for Neymar like they tried to shilling against Messi

Messi was the only player who kicked balls and make good dribling, passing, and kicks in the game against Juventus.

Messi need to be the false striker again, play in the same way in the times of Guardiola, and with less famous people around him like was with Pedro and Villa, but better in the midle with Xavi and Iniesta

I would give for Real Madrid Suarez, Neymar and want from Real Madrid Sergio Ramos, Marcelo, and other players in the defense and want Balle

Barcelona need to have
Guardiola or
Tite

Messi can play good for more 5 years
and then wait to see if he still good

The problem is the Barcelona Team, Neymar and Suarez destroy the position of Messi in the game and don't work to help him striker goals, like Balle and other players work for Cristiano Ronaldo in majority of games make nothing besides only kick the ball but don't speed, don't dribling, no passing.

Even real madrid fans attacked CR7 in the last game before his goals because was bad to see him

Neymar and Suarez, destroyed barcelona because changed position of Messi, and the middle of Barcelona is bad, their defense is bad, their sides are bad, Danial Alves back

He is definitely the best second player in the world. He is that good, but he ain't no GOAT (neither is Messi btw).

watch his 100 european goals video.

scored at least 5 in the past 5 years in the CL. no one else comes near that

he's actually become an underrated free-kick taker

Sorry CR7 fans, i don't want to hurt your feelings, maybe he could have good stats, but i never see CR7 doing nothing, it's just he is lucky, in the end is alone, kick ball, but don't speed, passing, dribling, he only kick balls and penaldo

I usually don't like to watch games from Real Madrid because i think it's usually boring, Barcelona have more passing, dribling, have messi, the others, but don't have good in the midle, iniesta is not so good anymore, and don't have xavi anymore, Barcelona defense is bad now, they don't have dani alves, alba is not so good like was in past.

I wanted Daniel Alves, Marcelo, Sergio Ramos, Balle, Guardiola and some other players for Barcelona, and put Messi in better position, Messi is forced to divide himself with Neymar and Suarez while in the past he was the main player for goals and everything and worked better, in the times with Villa and Pedro, like Benzema and balle working for CR7 but Balle is better than Villa and Pedro and Balle working for Messi in Barcelona and also being good, would be nice, and good people passing in the middle too, Messi is now working like the alone player trying to passing in the middle, dribling and score

Messi worked better in the times with Pedro and Villa for Barcelona with Xavi and Iniesta being good, in the same way Real Madrid have Benzema and Balle working for CR7.

But Messi is better and have more pleasure to watch than Cristiano Ronaldo for me since i see Messi dribling, passing and making everything.
and Suarez fixed as striker and Messi forced to divide momments with Neymar.

He's a shell of his former self.

He's basically a glorified tap-in/poacher now.

Messi since
2006
GOAT

it's like im on youtube

But they had Ibra.

From this thread alone I understood that brazilians have severe autism.

do you remember Hugo Sanchez? no one does
that's Cristiano in 15 years. Poachers and tap-in masters are never remembered as greats.

Le really good at rape man

manoel meu nego, vá fazer meu pãezinhos

nice blog my lady

Are you 12 or just retarded?

it's because of how retarded knuckballing free kicks are. there's that sweet spot where you actually hit the net and it likely goes in, or it either skys over the net or smacks into the wall.

so it isn't as attractive as say trying to curl it in, and barely missing/hitting the post/crossbar or having the goalie save it.

no one remembers hugo sanchez because hugo sanchez played before pictures could be taken in colour

david beckham makes more now than he did playing actual soccer. So when it comes to stardom, literally no one is going to forget ronaldo

there's a disturbing shortage of TSU in this thread

le tap goals in when he should be offside man

Cristiano 'you thought I should be offside but then I tapped' Ronaldo.

i wish i had all the old webms of ronaldo tap ins, mostly bale and benzema cleaning up 3-4 people and ronaldo pushing the ball 2 feet in

1-7

I think this comment answer your question

''Messi can have 40 great games but will be remembered for 1 bad game.Ronaldo can have 40 shit games but will be remembered for 1 great game.''

>I bad game
>le choke in finals man
>le dissapear when it matters man
>le walk around in the field man
>le cheese pizza and sprite man
>le throw up man

I don't think he's the absolute GOAT per se, but saying he isn't up there in the all time great list is pure ignorance.

He's in top 10 greatest footballers to me, but that's just my opinion, but he is on the decline since last year and getting old doesn't help him either.

Still GOAT

>I started watching football in 2016: the post

That is true now though. Ronaldo is on a major decline since 15/16 season. Before that he was created chances, took better freekicks, almost never missed etc...

ronaldo is a complete fucking fraud, if that little hole doesn't open up in wolfsburgs wall then he is shipped to PSG and within 2 years lives in Los Angeles playing for the Galaxy. Somehow the lord blessed him with the whole in the wall and with some africans (actual africans) scoring for him to win the Euro. That man is unbelievably lucky.

>le cannot beat the first man in a one man wall man

Navas told him to take the free-kick like that. Idk why though

He is statiscally the worst free kick taker. They were talking about it on bein actually. It was after he finally scored one off a free kick actually. The man went an entire season scoring from a free kick.

He is a phenomenal penalty kick taker.

He was very fast when he was younger but time has taken its toll.

His presence on the pitch means defenders cannot ignore him and that helps the other front men.

He is a 10/10 poacher which means when its eccesary he's the janitor you want up front.

He is mentally weak during bad games.

He is unstoppable when hes on a hot streak.

The entire RM system is based on get him ball in the box.

This doesnt make it a bad system. It just means that he is helped by world class players.

His play style is different from Messi so I never understood why everyone compares them. Watermelons amd tomatoes are both fruit but one goes in a salad and the other one is tomatoe.

Did I miss anything?

Why not both?

Statistically speaking this season he has been worse than Suarez, Lewandowski, Cavani and argueably worse than Neymar.

Neymars tax problem mentally fucked him. I watch every game and you can see how after it was all partially settled his quality returned. Hes young. So when hes on a bad streak its hard for him to fet out of the funk. Hes is one of te best dribblers in football right now but he lacks discipline and mental toughness.

In 2 years he will unstoppable on the left wing.

Another problem he has is that hes buolt like a mosquito so he is """"fouled"""" a lot

Ronaldo < Messi andmit it nigger Mesi master race