Most of the criticisms I've heard so far boil down to this: I don't like new things.
Also, the original trilogy wasn't perfect and it wasn't the greatest story anyone's ever told.
Get over yourself.
One of the things I thought they got right was Luke's death. No lightsaber through the heart. No humiliation. Just transitioning like his master did.
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I guess coherent plots and character development aren't things you're interested in.
agreed, I'm tired of people calling the original trilogy perfect, and calling the new one bad because of minor things, nothing is perfect.
They should have called it the last white guy. There are now zero white male protagonists in the series. That doesn't even make sense from a diversity stand point cause white dudes are like 30 percent of the population. Maybe the next one will be return of the white guys, or I'm seriously voting for trump.
Go to bed JJ, it's past your bedtime.
>TFA sticks to the formula and plays it safe
"IT'S JUST A FUCKING REHASH OF A NEW HOPE! JJ ABRAMS IS SUCH A FRAUD."
>TLJ adds some new things
"REEEEEE IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE STAR WARS ANYMORE. RIAN JOHNSON IS SUCH A FRAUD!"
They made him drink breast milk.
'Nuff said.
Mark hated the movie and what they did to the jedi
No one has said it was perfect, the problem is they ruined the characters the story was founded on.
So who the fuck are you? The reincarnation of Roger fucking Ebert?
Ok so you liked the movie and feel salty about someone else criticising it, we get it. Go cry somewhere else.
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The reason why i didnt like this film is because it didnt do anything new.
It had a chance when Kylo asked Rey to join him but she decided to keep the same wheel turning so now its back to good guys vs bad guys
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All milk is breast milk.
>what is a mammal
>triLOGy
Luke went down like a chump
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Movie wasn't the greatest thing ever, but "True Star Wars Fans™" have to be hyper faggots about everything.
this is Tameme levels of pathetic, Ryan
I guess you're right, I just don't understand the point. Who gives a fuck if there are no white main characters? Was Bad Boys 2 not a fun movie cause they aren't white? Friday isn't funny because there are no white guys?
I mean, hate it for characters you don't like, but you're just a paranoid racists. Finn is a shitty character, Rey got better in this movie, but is still boring, the fat asian is awful. Poe got far more interesting in this movie.
I get you're angry, but fuck off. You're just like black people getting angry because a black person isn't in avengers or something.
It was lame and obvious they were trying to squeeze as much feminism into the movie as possible even if it didn't make sense
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Nah. I'm not even a Star Wars fan. But going to that movie and being completely without expectation I thought it was a bad film. Bad character motivation, bad character development, comedy at inapporpriate times, the tone of the movie was all over the place. Some of the characters seemed useless. It was somewhat preachy in a condescending way. I don't go to movies to be preached at. When scenes don't make much sense and there are akward actions and no character evolution, it is obvectively bad movie making.
The best thing that came out of this movie is that Disney knows their target audience. They don't even have to produce a good film, people are so blinded by the Star Wars brand they will watch and consume anything that has the logo on it without critical thinking. They hit that part of it out of the park. They will make billions.
But it IS a bad film.
Good job, you are almost to the perfect level of mindlessness, keep blankposting maybe you will grow some intellect.
Agreed, They should make all characters Chinese.
>ftl jump into ship
Why not the death star too?
>snoke gets killed by being deaf
Why?
>every female character has zero flaws
Why?
>every male character has flaws
Stupid
Corrupt
Vengeful
Etc.
>rey is ultimate Mary sue
Yet she's a nobody why?
>kylo is still literal shit
Why?
>most of the film was going from adventure to half baked adventure
Why?
>its the same movie plot as two of the originals just spliced together
Why?
>Luke is literally powerless against anyone
Why?
>imperial bodyguards die like babies to two literal ones
Why?
fuck starwars just clound mine some coin
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The movies were successful because of white males. The franchise was built on white male characters and white male fans. There is a good reason that star wars fans have been portrayed as nerdy white guys for 40 fucking years. They shit on the whole reason this series is popular.
I say Kylo gets killed and replaced by this guy in the next movie
it was terrible and poorly done. also, what new things? so many ripped off lines from the last movies, snow planet with ATATs, boring and uncreative.
uninspired and hacky.
>I don't like new things
I dislike the movies because they're NOT new.
They're the scenarios from the original trilogy done all over again. A new empire, a new rebellion, a new story about a chosen one who brings balance to the force.
Fuck all the shit Luke went through to bring peace to the galaxy, everything is total shit once again. Because reasons.
I agree that his actual death was appropriate, die like Yoda, but they basically made him a bitch.
He was going to kill Kylo because he felt the dark side in him. Basically luke was acting like a dick. When Rey came to ask for his help he wanted nothing to do with her or his friends. Basically said fuck you, another dick move. When he finally does help he's nothing but a distraction. Supposedly the most powerful jedi in the universe is nothing more than the doctor from Star Trek. Death was right, everything else, meh.
ok ur retarded
>ripped off lines
name three
>snow planet
that was salt you absolute fucking retard. if you think cool salt and gem planet with beautiful red and white aesthetic is literally anything like Hoth then you probably have fetal alcohol syndrome
>ATAT
WOW you mean THEY HAVENT EVOLVED FROM FOUR LEGS TO SIX YET??? guns were invented 600 years ago and we still use them. rockets, planes etc, all been around a few decades. its been like 30 years between episode 5 and 8, the ATAT are clearly newer models as they look different therefore ur dumb
as for everything else if you were bored then thats you problem
>One of the things I thought they got right was Luke's death.
he didn't do shit. he didn't affect shit. he didn't behave like the character we all know would have behaved
I liked it more when I left the theater than now than I've had time to think more about it. My biggest complaint was, while I was good with all the Rey stuff, the whole drama around the Resistance running away was just 90 minutes of filler. Nothing Poe/Fin/Asian lady did made any difference. They failed in their mission top stop them from being tracked. They had no purpose other than "we need to give non-Rey characters screen time while Rey is busy". If they had just sat there and followed the Admiral's orders there would have been no difference in the outcome at all. NONE. They wasted all that time for nothing when they could have found a way to do something that had an impact.
I also really couldn't stand the humor. One of the first things you see is Poe playing a dumb "I'm on hold for General Hux" prank. That might be something you can do in an Avengers movie, but it felt so out of place in the situation. Star Wars shouldn't have modern day Earth humor, it just makes it seem like the writers and characters don't take their roles seriously.
In my opinion, the way it should have gone was this:
Luke trains Rey just enough so she can help him fight Snoke.
During the fight Rey wounds Ren and he flees. Luke kills Snoke.
In a moment of weakness (like he had with Ren), Luke tries to kill Rey. She kills him instead and realizes that having a strict good/light and bad/dark can't work.
>ftl
Why were there like 15 dudes against the original death star when they are intergalactic empire with trillions of soldiers? Because it's a space opera that never made sense.
>snoke killed
I mean, most his head is melted. The point was supposed to be that Kylo tricked him into seeing an incorrect vision, thus blinding him.
>women zero flaws
Eh. Purple haired chicks plan WAS shitty. It only worked out her way because Finn's team got caught. Arguably Poe was right to destroy the destroyer since those bombers couldn't have helped them as they fled anyway, so they aren't always right
>male flaws
So you're angry they are better characters? Poe/Luke were more well-developed than any woman in the movie because of their flaws. How is that bad?
>Rey Sue
Not in this movie. She did almost nothing
>Kylo shit
See above. He tricked Snoke and fought 3 imperial guards while Rey fought 1. But sure.
>Adventure to adventure
That's a nonsense argument you could make of anything.
>same plot
Are you fucking high? If anything they stole the idea from Battlestar Galactica where they are constantly being chased. You're just making shit up with this one.
>Luke powerless
He astral projects himself across the galaxy to fuck with Kylo and he is powerless? What does this statement even mean? Are you just angry he didn't fight a dude with a lightsaber?
>Imperial guards
Because force-awakened people are supposed to be badasses. Imperials guards have NEVER made sense in any star wars ever. They've always sucked and they don't have force powers.
ok? the original houses were made of rocks and sticks but we use like cement and shit now
>ur
>twice
Go die in a fire you garbage numale.
If you aren't aware of how crazy you are, please reread what you just said. It was built on SPACE OPERA. No one loved it because of WHITE PEOPLE. Boba fett was insanely popular and no one ever saw his face (in the OT).
Vader was everyone's favorite because he was a scary dude (with a black guy's voice, btw).
The movies were successful because it hadn't been done before and it was entertaining. You have no grasp of reality if you think anything successful with white people was successful because we love white people.
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So what youre saying crushed up white guys and shit are the ways to make a good star wars movie.
If purple haired bitch would have told everyone the plan, Finn and Rose wouldn’t of had to go on the whole bullshit adeventure and they all could’ve escaped on the escape pods unscathed
The humor was garbage, but you're thinking of the movie wrong.
You're thinking of plot like this - Stuff happens that YOU think is important to the plot - fights - movie ends. A huge theme of this movie was that sometimes heroics don't work. It was about heroes and legends being wrong.
Finn is a 'legend' (HAH!) and he tries to run away. Legends suck. Luke is a legend but he almost killed an innocent. Legends make mistakes. Rey thinks she can be heroic and save the day with Kylo. He thinks the same of her, they fight. Finn's gay little party thinks they can do an insanely unlikely, ridiculous manuever and save the day. It fails and it gets hundreds killed. Purple haired chick thinks she is so smart and saving lives. They get blown the fuck up.
The non-Rey stuff tied into the theme, which they partially stole from Rogue One. Rogue One tried to say the universe was more gritty and complicated. Last Jedi tried to follow through on that.
White males were literally the people that made this franchise. The movie was ONLY popular with white males when it came out. The fanbase has been consistently white male for 40 years. You can reply if you want but you have no fucking clue what youre talking about if you say star wars isnt a franchise made successful by nerdy white men.
This is exactly what I thought.
Why in the actual fuck would she just go with the "lol trust me or fuck off" attitude?
Hated her character because of it.
I liked it. Fuck the fags who didnt.
There's a video of Mark's interview he hates the movie and calls out the sjw and only money matters
A comfy remix with original luke was posted on /wsg/
Ill download it in a few months instead of giving my money to jew rapists.
>15 dudes
Pretty sure it was a small strike team but ok.
>snoke killed
Pretty sure he can still hear a lightsaber rustle next to him and the whole vision thing is retarded as it would of shown no
Is true motivation regardless.
>women are shit
Yeah I agree, and no she was literally telling Poe/fnigger to shut the fuck up and let the woymins do their job.
>male flaws yes
Having flaws doesn't make someone better as a character if they're just there to get shit on in every conceivable way.
Also they weren't more well developed as Luke isn't anything like old Luke and Poe is still a impulsive dumb motherfucker.
>rey ultisue
She did nothing I agree but everything she did do was just to show how ebic and powerful she is, and if you disagree please watch the movie again.
>kylo shit
Yeah kylo shit
>adventure to adventure
Mate the movie was about following a ship through space to btfo out of the resistance yet muh ship be slower than their ship but they forgot about fuel economy! And two sub plots just to show how rey is Mary sue and the other being find codebreaker when codebreaker does nothing but turns against them and adds zero to the plot except being a taxi for a main character and a sue.
>same plot
Watch empire strikes back then during the movie switch to return of the jedis confrontation between palp and luke then switch back after.
>Luke is shit
Yep, astral projection isn't even big time dude yet it kills him?
>imperial bodyguards
They were trained to kill force users with their vibroblades and armour that can withstand a lightsaber glancing blow, plus they had to be veterans of the clone wars thus had to fight some force users beforehand.
Lefuckofflepls.
>Rogue One tried to say the universe was more gritty and complicated.
i think Rouge One was trying to say that you can have a movie focus on a large group of people and none of them will have any character or personality to note
Lmao ok Disney shill.
It was only popular with white males? Really?
The 300 million it made internationally - all white, huh? Wasn't huge in Japan? You're probably right though. I mean, you're some guy talking out his ass on Sup Forums about how love of white folks just CREATES money, so I'm sure you've looked up all the actual sales numbers.
It's amazing how fucking stupid you are that you can only correlate white people to success. In fact, everyone hated Enron, which was run by white people, which is how I KNOW for a FACT all people hate white people.
See what it's like when I use your logic? It makes no fucking sense. Because it's gibberish, and you're a paranoid faggot online trying to justify your insanity.
All of your 'points' are just fancy ways of yelling "shut up" like a little kid because you heard an opinion you don't like.
>300 million
Britain + Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc
I just hated that stupid ass annoying fat asian bitch
it was boring man. running in a straight line for an hour? throw in some fucking asteroids, split your ships in different directions instead of slowly letting them get all picked off but one. set one to self destruct and send it back. DO SOMETHING YOU BORING FUCKS. WHO IS WRITING THIS SHIT
it was like the worlds most boring police chase.
also, after they landed on the snow planet, then ditched the imperials, how did they escape?
the imperials ships are still in orbit even if you ditch the ground troops youre still fucked.
Because only twelve survived and muhdick falcon is too fast for dem.
>even though the ship is now ancient
wtf was even the deal with snoke? easily beaten because love what a garbage lineup
they could've just had that red haired guy they kept making "dumb whitey" jokes at be in charge or anyone else
i actually webt into it preoared to hate it because I assumed it would ge more “death to white men, power to any/all otger minorities” hate propaganda.
it was, but i still liked enough of it (aside from some truly stupid writing) to have seen it twice in one day.
I dont hate it, but I think large bits of it will be included in the 7-8-9 edit i make. when im done I should have a
Rogue One (the only prequel needed)
A New Hope
Empire
Return
My Edit of 7-8-9 (into a single sequel).
done.
the force doesn't belong to the jedi
You're dumb fucking wannabe meme isn't funny you stupid ten year old sperg.
>the force is female
>because there are two forces, that have sex with each other with their organs like sexual biological organisms and ones genitals are assigned make and ones are assigned female arbitrarily becuase as long as were making shit up and spewing it everywhere why not
snookie was destroyed bc jedi mind trick
& the only cool shot in that entire scene
why are people surprised this movie sucks? before the Disney buyout, half the franchise was a cringefest
So you really dont know shit then. Do you have a brain in your head? Star wars has been a nerdy white male franchise for 40 fucking years. Stop trying to act like this movie was not a thinly veiled PCA that white men are on the wrong side of history and stronk womyn are the only people capable of doing anything.
>The Force is female
wat
there was a good film in there somewhere
it just needed an editor
Just gonna ignore the fact that there are hundreds of facts of Japan's love for Star Wars, huh?
Just gonna make up facts and assume all of that came from white places, huh?
I wonder what it's like to be your friend. I wonder how often you bitch and moan and just blame other people for shit and it makes no sense.
It's poorly written. The original trilogy was 30 years ago by a pseudo amateur writer under his own indie company.
The new series is a billion dollar franchise owned a massive media conglomerate. Whats their excuse using a Fan-Fic piece of shit for Last Jedi?
>god damn you just described the type of people that made this garbage movie.
Episode 3 was fucking awesome. Fuck you user. And even though it had flaws (Leia in space, and casino planet) ep. 8 was enjoyable.
Listen, you really need to enroll in your local community college and take a couple classes on English. First thing they will teach you about is how to effectively communicate. In-between the lessons on not drooling on your keyboard, you might learn it.
After that, they will teach you about fallacies, which are the retarded nonsense arguments you have been making this entire thread. Next, they will try to teach you how to make an argument - an actual coherent one - and then how to support it with evidence.
God willing you just might pull through in a couple years and be able to have a functioning adult conversation.
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who is snoke? is he palpatine? he behaved like he knew vader
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>who is snoke? is he palpatine? he behaved like he knew vader
Doesn't matter now. They killed all the major villians except backstreet boi.
>Episode 3 was fucking awesome.
confirmed underage
>it had flaws
>Leia in space
>casino planet
i havent seen the movie and i need context. wat?
>who is snoke?
We may never know since he's apparently dead now.
aside from anakin turning too easily and jar jar they were good
40 years of legacy ruined
fuck you liberals and jews
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even though yoda ghost knew that rey already stole the books... sooo no knowledge was destroyed, literally just a symbol, an old dead tree.
I swear, I was meh on this movie, but all the idiotic non-criticisms of it are pushing me to liking it more.
Faggot. The whole show was a steaming pile of cringe. Poor script. Poor camera work. Just shite
What was new about it you fucking moron? They literally reset the galaxy back to rebel v empire. Also why is Luke going through another character arc when it was already done? Give it to rey instead.
I think you're the one who is scared of new things.
Or Phasma... her character could have been awesome as leader of the stormtroopers but gets killed off due to Finns superpower of being black
Thank you, sir, my exact thought. Also don't forget white males who don't like women being protagonists because they remember how virgin they are.
Luke Dies and....uh....CG! Shny pew pew, vwoom vwooom lightsabers!
>anakin turning too easily
>they were good
you just criticized the entire plot of three fucking movies and still say they were good. you're a special kind of retarded
they made sure to rip a patch of her indestructible mask off to show her eye though so we could see she was white. Had to get that in.
Heh.
Not only white but blue-eyed too.
Villians made the original. Kylo and Snork(whatever the fuck his name is. Doesn't matter he was killed like the B tier character he was.) are shades compared to Vader/Emperor.
>Snoke has force powers, he must be someone important from the past! Look at the scars! That has to mean something!
Nah just kidding he's dead now it didn't matter.
>Rey is the child of someone important! Look how we flash back and forth telepathically between her and Kylo just like with Luke and Leia! Maybe they are related!
Nah just fucking with you. Her parents dont matter.
>Luke looks totally evil touching R2 whose light becomes red, and he's evil standing over Kylo with his blade out!
Nah just fucking with you it was all a big misunderstanding!
>Kylo is obsessed with and prays to Vaders helmet and modeled his own after that, maybe that means something!
Nah just fucking with you, Snoke made fun of his helmet so now he's totally over helmets.
I don't like that Disney shit all over the widely accepted extended universe just because they bought the rights to Star Wars.
It's fucking blasphemy. You are a heretic. Fuck you.
I was hoping Ren would join with the resistance. Not turn over to the light side, just a change of factions. An unstable dark side user they drop into tough situations to wreck shit when they need it? That might be neat.
I thought the way they finished Luke was good, but I am thoroughly disappointed we didn't get to see him fight at all first.
Yeah, I was expecting a lot more phasma than what we got.
The fight where she basically steamrolls Finn was nice but way too fucking short (and then he, of course, turns the tables easily). And pretty much all we really got with her. Fuck.
no, you liked them, which is fine, but just because you like or dislike something doesnt make that thing good or not good. i like chocolate eau claire frozen custard, almost more than life itself, but that doesnt mean it is good. It isnt, its fucking horrendously bad.
I thought that he should be turned by the horrors of war and being forced to make more and more questionable choices to survive, instead of MY GF PREGNANT KILL EVERYONE EVEN MURDER KIDS CUZ MUH GF PREG
other than that I liked em
What would you prefer to see instead?