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Anons, I need some advice: Need to gift something to a 12 years old nerd kid who spends his whole time playing videogames alone in his room, please come up with suggestions, need to spend around 25 bucks

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A single peanut.

lotion and tissues. If your feeling generous, a subscription.

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A 25$ peanut? Now that's expensive

a large dragon dildo

I thought you meant 25 and under.

Are there gift cards for in-game micro transactions?

Maybe for mine craft or something else he plays

Middle Eastern whore

this, because he will discover Sup Forums soon enough and all the trap shit on here and all the Liberal nonsense on tv he will surely be gay or at least confused for a while

Buy him access to a minecraft server user. Something that will give him a new experience with an old game.

Pornhub Premium

Buy him a coffin.

pornhub premium is shit, rather spend 3 days on brazzers then have that shit for a year

Your Loli and shots collection of course

He's a spoiled kid, buys a new 50 bucks game every week, wouldn't know what gift card i could get him

Looks pretty good, thanks for the suggestion

Figure out what game he plays and buy him a tshit or some kinda memorabilia from it.

Get him a cheap hooker and save his abysmal ass from a lifetime of video games.

Serious answer: A book. Something timeless but catered to his tastes. I got my brother a $15 copy of 6 of HG Wells stories in a nice binding with gold leaf pages at costco, they had a few other reprints of some classics.

If he's a big halo or star wars fan, you could get him one of the books from those respective series (Young Jedi was great when I was his age). Don't get him something you know he won't read, but try to find something he'll actually be interested in. You'll probably have to keep it light though because kids today are retarded and don't know how to read if it's not on their phone. ("Kid" here means anyone under 25 pretty much).

A booklight can help with that too btw, if you can fit that in your budget. When the eyes are used to glowing screens, the extra brightness can help them stay focused. Sad we need that handicap but what can you do.

gift him a 25 giftcard

Are you honestly that stupid. Kids who play video games don't read books.

Multiple dreidels. No explanation needed

Thanks for the serious answer, will try something on the books side

For what service?

Books are a great idea. I remember reading the Halo series as a kid and it still sticks with me to this day 10+ years later

gamestop gift card for exactly one price of a new game including tax

This might be outdated, but when I was a kid I played games like they were gonna suck my dick and read book after book.
I basically read the entire fiction section of my school library, aside from all of the books I wished for during my birthday and christmas.
But again, I'm 30 now, so my experience might be outdated.

Are you fucking retarded?

Cyanide pills. And a cake. Bake the pills in the cake.

Butterfly knife. You can flip it like a mad cunt, and also cut things, sharpen pencils etc.

Kids who don't read books don't deserve video games. Sorry fag, your dad left your mom so I'm here to tell you that you're grounded for him.

And I know you'll ignore me. That's why your dad left, you disappointing little shit. Go shovel the driveway, ingrate.

fedora and 2 fidget spinners

A fleshlight would be the best thing ever for him but would cost more.

this

Giving any 12 year old a sex toy is bound to fuck up their masturbation habits and expectations.
Let them do it by hand when they are kids, just like every human before them.

My legit recommendation would've been Ringworld by Larry Niven, which inspired Halo, but honestly it's too much for most twelve year olds unless they're extremely gifted readers. Known Space is great as an adult too though, highly recommend.

Wheel of Time is my all time favorite (fantasy, not scifi like the others I mentioned), but the mere idea of reading Eye of the World would probably terrify modern children.

this

A kettlebell.

Do you remember standing in the aisle reading a book you weren't sure if you wanted to take home, and two hours later you'd sped through the whole thing and had to pick up a new book?

Man I miss being a kid some days. Getting back into the habit as an adult is tough.

a box of condoms
molest im 12 times
with this song on repeat over a 24 hour period
youtu.be/851BqHMCaeM

buy him PUBG for xbox

no seriously

Kek

Yeah I did that a few times.
Did you ever read so much that you'd pick up a good looking book, get about a quarter way into it and then realizing that you had already read it but momentarily forgotten?
The only reason I don't read to that extent anymore is because I'm funding my own living now and eating beats reading.

Pls dont hear this faggot, the game reslly sucks in Xbox

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A gun with 1 bullet.

Haha yeah. I mentioned WoT earlier in the thread, I had a ritual for a long time where every time a new book was about to come out, I'd reread the whole series in preparation. Broke my 13 year old heart when Robert Jordan died.

thats the fucking point, dumbass

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I actually never read WoT, might get my hands on it once funds improve.
My roleplaying team game me the entire dune series for a birthday once, I binge read all of them in less than a week.
I'd do the same thing you did with the Harry Potter books in English(my native language is danish), so I was up to speed on the story every time a new book came out.
Once I got a bit older, I was gifted a book series called The Baroque Cycle, can highly recommend, in spite of the 16-17 century english used in them.
Those books made my vernacular rather archaic, but it really boosted my english reading comprehension.

Gave me the entire*

I haven't actually read Dune. I know I had copies of them once, somewhere, but they disappeared. Can't recommend WoT enough times, I don't know of anyone disliking it that's even slightly a fantasy fan. Definitely a slow starter, but if you're a fast reader that shouldn't be a problem.

Harry Potter we did the same thing. I have a funny memory of when one came out (the fifth, I think?), my sister tried to monopolize the book so she could finish it first, I stole it and finished it in a day and blew her mind lol.

Baroque Cycle sounds interesting for sure, though probably not what I need right now. I loaded up on a bunch of heavy reading, Freud's Psychoanalytics, NeuroTribes, The Ego and His Own, that kind of stuff. Bit off a bit more than I can chew, because I didn't pick up many books for light reading when my brain isn't fully in gear. I've been chewing through Cat's Cradle the past few days though and think I'm going to end up snagging some more Vonnegut from the library, I read Slaughterhouse-Five in high school and that was it. I remembered him as being much denser, but I've been flying through it. Maybe an hour a day for three days and I'm halfway through? Not sure if his other stories are all so light.

Now you've got me curious because I'm in the US but have a danish friend who wants me to DM for him for a D&D game, you anywhere near Roskilde?

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I hope you do realise that you don't need to read to become a good person and to have good morals. Books, for the most part, do not teach children about morals and about how to become good people, its the parents and other people (generally adults) who influence children's behaviour.
Also, not sure how not reading on a regular basis and playing computer games makes me disappointing and ungrateful, but OK.
Seems like you'd know about being a disappointment though...

Nah man, I'm in Aarhus in the part of the country that isn't the swedish congo, Jutland.
Could you give me the unabbreviated version of WoT please, couldn't find it in thread.

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Some staples of western society are hard to get if you haven't read the greek philosophers and the people who got inspired by them.

get him some of this shit.

> (OP)
>fedora and 2 fidget spinners
And a STEAM gift card

He shouldn't be working out before his body has settled in his new teenage state.
He'll just end up fucking himself over with weightlifting and shit.
Kids that age get to play sports and get their exercise through that.

Buy him a Death Note.

If you outsource your imagination, your brain atrophies. They weren't lying when they said "your brain is a muscle, use it or lose it".

Video games are like the scootiepuffs of the minds eye. You are the mental equivalent of obesity.

>not sure how not reading on a regular basis and playing computer games makes me disappointing and ungrateful

Yeah, I'm sure you think it's normal and "not disappointing" to jack off to porn 3-5x a day too.

I understand that. I'm not saying that reading isn't beneficial, because it definitely is. What I'm saying is that you don't need to read to become a good person and you don't need a great understanding of society and ancient philosophy either.
Fair enough if you wanna read up on all such things, I'm not bashing it, I'm saying its not necessary.
And what I mentioned earlier, I still stand by. Kids who play video games don't read. Video games are way more exciting and engaging then books and that's evident. Especially now combined with the accessibility of platforms such as YouTube and twitch which are for the most part targeted towards. The advertisement towards video games is exponentially larger than the advertisement of books and education in general. Sure, there will be exceptions to this rule, kids who read for fun and kids who don't take any intrest in video games but in general, kids who read don't play video games.

Wheel of Time, by Robert Jordan. First book in the series is Eye of the World. Averages around 600-800 pages depending on format. IIRC the first book came out in 1990, so you should be able to find a set of at least the first 6 or so for a pretty cheap price.

Buying an e-reader changed my life as an adult. I went onto the plebbit /books sub, torrented the top 20 or so new fantasy titles I could find, and spent the next three months tearing through them.

Are you mentally handicapped? You're telling me that when kids (or adults for that matter) play video games, they're not engaging their brains? Get the fuck out of here. What do you think sitting on Sup Forums is doing to your brain? Endlessly browsing past trap and loli threads as if there's no tomorrow isn't exactly healthy either.

Explain to me how not reading and playing computer games makes me disappointing to others, and also tell me how you know people who don't read and play computer games are ungrateful.

>Yeah, I'm sure you think it's normal and "not disappointing" to jack off to porn 3-5x a day too.
It's not 'normal but its not disappointing either. If people would prefer to sit indoors and be an introvert, jacking off multiple times a day, fine by me, go ahead. Not something I would personally do but I certainly don't get disappointed by them doing it.

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Harsh truths. I quit video games recently, and my mind fucking hurts trying to find outlets for all the creativity that I had been outsourcing. I exercise almost daily, I started coding a basic bitch text-adventure in Java, I've been creating my own recipes to cook and bake with, etc.

I'd say books are less problematic, they stimulate my imagination rather than auto-piloting it.

Oh fuck haha, I've totally read most of those.
He's the guy who threat plot arcs like cutting the head off a hydra, once one dies, two more pops up.
Loial is still one of my favorite bookish characters.
Man I kind of disagree with you, if you don't understand the philosophy our western culture is based on, you won't have a good understanding of why it is a good thing to preserve.
It's way too easy to dismiss western culture as colonial if you don't read the stuff that got them to the point of creating the society we live in now.
Also depending on what you read, you can gain a better insight in your own mind and perspectives on how other peoples minds can work. Through that you can find your positive and negative sides and deal with them in a way that makes you a better person.
I'd also posit that kids who get really into gaming has a need for escapism and would take like fish to water if introduced to a proper book that was pertinent to your interests.

Triggered by truths

treats plot arcs*

>Video games are way more exciting and engaging then books and that's evident.
>exciting and engaging
>Especially now combined with the accessibility of platforms such as YouTube and twitch which are for the most part targeted towards
>The advertisement towards video games is exponentially larger than the advertisement of books and education in general.
>advertising

Yes, you have summarized the reasoning behind both of my posts. Modern video games are an example of memetic cancers that function as an electromagnetic tumor on the brain, sapping potentially-useful energy to be wasted on lazy bullshit.

Note that I clarified "modern", I have no issues with the kid who has fun in XCOM Apocalypse, that shit makes you think. Even then, it's a "puzzle" and is logic-oriented, it's not creative-minded at all.

Reading literally makes your brain work harder. Video games are like going to the gym and using the smallest weights and never graduating to a higher set. Books target different muscle groups depending on content and have different "loads" to them.

I didn't say shit about being a "good person" because "being a good person" sounds like something stupid people tell themselves to alleviate their insecurity about their intelligence. Video games are like masturbation, if it's how you unwind on a hard-earned weekend that's fine, if you hide in your room doing it all day you're a reclusive degenerate faggot and will hang on DOTR.

I can't stand staring at a lightbulb to read, this will probably be my last post in the thread because the monitor's making my eyes hurt. Maybe they're better now, I had one of the first generation kindles and the "e-ink" seemed nifty, except it spent more time refreshing the page than it took to read. Still, I prefer things that will survive a solar flare and don't like giving Amazon money, so it's not hard for me to say no in any case. Power to you if it works for you, I just like my bookshelf.

pertinent to their interests*

a book about how games work or something

PlayStation or Microsoft store dumb dumb, whichever console he has.

>What do you think sitting on Sup Forums is doing to your brain?

Considering this is the first I've been here in two years to see if it's still shit, not much. I know how to protect my subconscious, but I'm not going to talk too far over your head to humiliate you further.

>Endlessly browsing trap and loli threads as if there's no tomorrow

Speak for yourself lol.

>Explain to me how not reading and playing computer games makes me disappointing to others, and also tell me how you know people who don't read and play computer games are ungrateful.

Meditate on why that statement is the fixation for your anger for the next 20 minutes and you'll find the answer to your own question.

I got a Nook because fuck Amazon. You can turn the backlight off completely. I never have it on, hurts my eyes and fucks with my sleep.

I can respect liking your bookshelf though. E-reader works for me because I have a small living space.

Gift card. That is all. L2visa.

Per the second part of your post: I'd treat him with dismissive disdain at best, he's clearly an insecure child. I think I really cut deep with the "your dad left you for a reason" comment.

Per the first: Loial was my man. I hated Perrin for a long time but he grew to be my favorite. I realized at some point that it was because he's the most like me... Everyone thinks of him as the responsible one while he spends the whole series running from his responsibilities. Too many great characters in that series to name.

All truths worth knowing are harsh. Pic related.

Disagree also. Generally people will learn more from personal experiences than reading a book. You can read an endless amount of stories about how to get a girlfriend, but it doesn't do jack shit if you get flustered when it comes to having 1 on 1 conversations, maintaining eye contact etc.
I also disagree when you say you need to read on philosophy of western culture to have an understanding of why its important to preserve. That is assuming that when you say preserve you mean the maintaining of our the planet, species culture etc.
Also disagree when you say that reading helps you understand how peoples minds work. Characters in books are fictional and behave in a fictitious manner, meaning they often have no correlation to how peoples minds work and how people behave in the real world.
I do agree however that reading can be good fun and can engage children if it fits their interests, but as I mentioned earlier, there is a greater focus of finding games which fit children's interests rather than finding books that fit children's interest because games are generally more engaging and there more money to be made off of games.

But him a Sup Forums gold pass so he can continue to shit this place up with all the other 12 year olds

>Generally people will learn more from personal experiences than reading a book.
The operative phrase here is "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it".

If you weren't a shut-in NEET and met some people, this would be obvious to you. I know and have known tons of idiots who are three (or more!) generations deep in repeating the same mistakes their parents made because none of them learn from the past. They're "just being myself!" and doing dumb shit over and over again.

If that's the kinda life you're down with, eh, we need darkness to appreciate the light. But you're a retard.

>Characters in books are fictional and behave in a fictitious manner
lol last reply was before I finished reading, this is the nail in your "pretending to be an adult" coffin.

Non-fiction is a section. So are philosophy and psychology. And the reference section.

There's more to literature than Harry Potter boyo.

I actually think you're jumping down his throat at little too hard, but that's up to you man.
I tend not to antagonize people if I want to convince them of something, but if that wasn't your goal, I won't butt in.
I really like the luck based guy, it's been ages since I read them, so I've forgotten most names.
I still disagree with you, but if that is how you wanna look at it, you do you.
I would perhaps read up on some of the benefits of being well read, they have actually done studies on it.
Also I wasn't thinking of self help books, but on books where the author has really fleshed out people according to personality stereotypes, mixed with unique traits to make them more alive.
You might not meet a living person who resembles them 100%, but you will get some insight on how the psychology functions behind specific behaviors.

I miss the old Sup Forums when everyone was a niggerfaggot and nobody was a bot or a spook. I also miss being a child in the wild west days of the internet when trolling was a art. Gotta get my kicks in somewhere now that I'm someone people trust and go to for advice IRL.

Matrim Cauthon is the one you're thinking of. He was my favorite before I grew to appreciate Perrin. Reading those books in my formative years (plus Stranger in a Strange Land) is probably part of why I'm a shameless flirt with every woman I run across. First woman I ever asked out was married, lol. I didn't notice the ring, just the pretty face!

Get him a gym membership. Tell him if he isn't fixed by next year you're going to break all his shit.

I'm still working on my flirting skills, I'm okay at them, I just gotta get past my anxiety.
But I'm working on that as well, so it should work out fine.

Fixed? Fixed how?

tell em soyboy

my sister gave me weed for my 12th bd, he'll love you if you get a dub for him + 5$ candy,.

Fuck off beef head.

This is becoming rather tiresome so I'm going to summarise my points and you can think about it by yourselves reading your books.

Yes some video games are more mentally engaging than others, but I disagree when you say that reading makes your brain work harder and that video games are like lifting small weights. Video games are as engaging on your brain as books, if not more. Yes some video games make you waste away such as dating simulators, but in general video games are more intense and as such, more engaging on your brain.
>meh good person meh
Not sure which commenter you are, but I mentioned becoming a good person because I think that its more important to become a good person than to become somebody who can analyse ancient philosophy and such.

>meh, first time on Sup Forums in months
suuuuureee mate suurreee.
>speak for yourself
can't avoid it mate you have to scroll past em or refesh page to get to another thread. Thats how the layout of this website works.
>statement about anger or something
what the fuck are you on about. I'm not going to ponder about that statement any more because I have already and can't seem to find your reasoning, hence why I asked you about it. Also, getting somebody to explain something doesnt mean their 'anger' is 'fixated' on it. I don't even know what you mean when you say that.
Just, just what?

inb4 - stupid fuck can't understand my shoulda read more hehexddd

And for everybody in this thread, I'd like to remind you that throwing insults around and swearing at people on Sup Forums of all places isn't going to do jack-shit and that by doing such, you are the real disappointments. What would others think if you were found out to be calling others reclusive degenerate faggots online?
Shake - my - head.

Weed isn't for kids, heck people under 25 shouldn't smoke it on account their brains needing to mature.

>lube

The trick is to not give a single fuck and assume every woman that glances at you is eyefucking you.

You'll never see most people a second time and if you do, it won't matter, at worst it becomes a funny story for later about "back when I was ".

Just remember that every day is a repeat of the last, life is an objective collective dream and the universe is dancing for itself. You can't fail when you assume that every misstep was a learning experience.

I really don't care what your "opinion" on video games is, you're a child with a very limited understanding of neurology and you're upset that I hurt your feelings. Fuck your feelings, get a hobby that does something other than "it helps with my hand-eye coordination momma!". Go fire a gun at some tin cares, start gardening, I don't give a shit. Just do something with your life other than consume, you fucking drone.

That was an insult to bees, and I apologize. Drones are useful.

>calling others reclusive degenerate faggots online?
I'm the other guy arguing for books, I thought calling people reclusive degenerate faggots was the Sup Forums way of saying hello fellow human, I see you like bitches, I also like bitches.

Gamestop giftcard and a bag of chips.

Seriously this site is full of pussies these days. I guess that makes sense given the entire website is basically cuck propaganda since two years before moot left.

Member niggercaptcha? Back before we were training Google's child AI? Those were the days.