Sup Forums how do i get my life back together? i was in the Marine Corps for 7 years. 3 tours...

Sup Forums how do i get my life back together? i was in the Marine Corps for 7 years. 3 tours. when i got out my life fell apart. i drank everything away. went to treatment. got sober but i feel completely empty inside. i found a religion. Jehovah's Witnesses. that has helped. but i still feel dead. a lot of my Marine buddies i went to Afghanistan and Iraq with are dying from either drug overdose and 1 from suicide. is there anything worth living for? any advice on fixing this mess and finding hope?

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Fucking murderer

Religion was your first mistake. Hoping for meaning in life was your second. There is no order to the universe. You exist to experience things and produce offspring, maybe better humanity in some way.

You're really just overthinking it.

redefine yourself to yourself. you built who you were around the marines and then around a religion. maybe around other things that are no longer working for you. build a new yourself around something new, something you love and believe in. you're sober so you're doing fucking great already.

maybe helping people or cooking or travel or a job or art or dancing or being on Sup Forums or cars or love or kids or knowledge or a pet or anything.

it doesn't need to last forever, just till you feel like being someone else.

You got this homie. I love you and you fucking matter

Jehovah witness just proves you are very very fucked up. You should try scientology, heroin and nerve gas.

thank you. i really appreciate it

Stop being so self obsessed. Go help other people and quit obsessing over every little detail in your life. You're chasing after reasons to live but the only reason to live is because you choose to. Life has no meaning other than to survive.

Cannabis helps soldiers with PTSD.

you're a good person. there are good people not just takers.

Accountability, the truth, and redemption is the only way out. Everything else is futile. You know what you did was wrong, so you must hold yourself accountable for your actions. The only way you will feel better is by redeeming your actions. Dying with regret and uncertainty is the worst death of all. All your rights and wrongs will hit you like a million suns the moment you pass and if your wrongs out weight your rights in this life , you will suffer and eternity. Redeem yourself and hold yourself accountable. No religion can save you only you can save you.

One day at a time. I was Navy; 18 years. Did something stupid at my last duty station (stayed in base housing and continued to collect BAH). I fucked up big. Got court-martialed; little brig time and the BCD.
Life was fucked; I was fucked and depressed. All my fault, yes.
But I continued. I persevered. I didn't let it keep me down. Worked every shitty job I could find, and built on them.
DO NOT GIVE UP. Forget all that Sup Forums an hero bullshit, those morons are already brain-dead. Do Not Give Up. Take it all one day at a time, one god damn thing at a time, and you will overcome. Your time with the Crayon Eaters gave you the skills to succeed; believe in yourself; surround yourself with like-minded, positive people, go forth and conquer.

thank you everyone. i am in bad shape and am trying to turn a new leaf. i hate complaining and dont want to burden friends and family. so i do appreciate your support.

Group therapy, getting out of the house as much as possible and so on. I joined the Freemasons after I got out, helped a lot with socializing and being around other vets, though most of those guys are older vets, Vietnam mainly.

shut up and post more JB faggot

Tell the truth and tell people why you feel the way you feel and tell the truth no matter what people say or think of you, this truth can set you free.

Start new, forget the marine corps.
Get a job and a wife, I guess?
Btw, don't date western girls, they will fuck you up even more.

HAHAHAHAHA
quit being a pussy and man up. you're not in uncle sam's welfare anymore. let's just hope you dind't reproduce and popped more retards

join a military contractor if you like the combat. Go work for the government in a civilian job. Become a counselor for vets. Masturbate to hentai. Learn to play an instrument

You need to get out of this Jehovah Witness cult nonsense. Now.

gun range work (shootinginstructor etc) helps overcoming bad memories and associates gunfire with other stuff

stay mad kid

>join a military contractor if you like the combat. Go work for the government in a civilian job. Become a counselor for vets.

well the beginning of your post sounded good.

Word. Those faggots already said the world was gonna end several times ( Google the 1975 controversy) Also the whole damned group is involved in a pedo cover-up thing.

The Corps will be a network for life. Linkedin if yu have skills. get out of JW, THEY WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY.

DMT. No overdose.

Do you have anyone in your life that makes it worth living? Family, friends, lovers? Do it for them.

Do you have any hobbies? Snowboarding, rock-climbing, basketball, videogames, painting, etc. Find something you really enjoy doing, that can make life worth it

Do you have any dreams you want to accomplish? Do you want to be the president? Do you want to be an astronaut? Do you want to be a rockstar? Find something you truly want and go after as if your life depends on

There are plenty of reasons to live bro, and they often won't be just handed to you. Sometimes you have to create one for yourself.

IGY6
stay busy, work or volunteer, focus on helping others and it will make you cope easier with yourself. took me seven years to figure that out myself. dont let pride fuck with you. discipline your meds, get counseling but dont let it run your life, you wont always need either of them. its possible you may never get "better", but you will get better at dealing with it. use your experiences to help others and empathize. dont let the little BS upset you

Do some volunteer work.
Work in a homeless shelter, soup kitchen etc. Most churches already have these things, just ask.
Interacting with these people will help you appreciate your situation by comparison, and give you some purpose.

Have a child

Raise that child

>marines
>religion

why are you so desperate for someone to tell you what to do and think? you are not going to find peace anywhere but within

Fishing can be relaxing. I often enjoy seeing bald eagles, and water fowl more than catching fish. Even more relaxing when on a boat! Quiet back to nature setting may help

IGY6, thank you for your sacrifice and service to our country.
Try joining the ASMDSS FB group, lots of other veterans there. Live for the same reason the Corps itself exist, for those you love, friends and family, the ones you fought to protect. Live for your buddies who never made it back, live for those buddies that passed away. Life is precious and you know first hand that the cost of a good and free life is damn steep. Don't waste the life that was given to you. Wish you all the best user, join our ASMDSS group, you'll find lots of support there.

Please, look up someone called Sadhguru Yogi. This man changed my entire perspective on life and just sinply blew my mind on many things.

if you recognize what you took part in was immoral and a mistake, then seek redemption through your actions now. spend your time actually helping others. inform them about the true nature of the military industrial complex and what really happens overseas. get into activism if that suits you. if so, look up adam kokesh, who was also in the marine corps.

if not, find a job that actually benefits other people, your community, that truly serves your country and your people.. there are many ways to do so, even something as simple as volunteer fire department work, working as an EMT / Paramedic, or volunteering at a food bank / soup kitchen. your life is fucked up because you are having difficulty living with yourself. take action to improve your conscience and sense of self worth and contentment / happiness.

or, if you did some really fucked up shit over there, and you're just a shit person in general.. feel free to join the ever growing club of an hero veterans.. the world might be better without you.

I do have people in my life i love. one of them pretty much saved my life by getting me into treatment.

user, allow me to take the "old school" approach here.

Essentially, you can ACT LIKE A MAN!! Stop whining, being a little bitch, and overall complaining because "muh buddies got shot and sheet".

You got PAID while you were in the Marine Corps, yes? Well, we (the taxpayer) PAY YOU TO GET SHOT OR SHOT AT so our wives and kids don't get shot by ISIS.

You took the money, yes? Then man up and shut the fuck up. Do you see WWII dudes going all "muh ptsd, I can't work at the steel mill or coal mine"? No. You saw them work their asses off, raise families and make this country fucking great.

The millenial pussies that fought with Laser Beams and Drones and, yes, some bullets, need to stop bitching. You didn't lose 1/2 your family, or all your brothers, or fight a war while your whole family was in an Internment Camp in Manzanar (like Japanese Americans did in WWII) so.........

STOP BEING A LITTLE PUSSY BITCH!.

An thank you for your service.

all this advice has helped me at the moment. i screenshot it to remember.

Piss off faggot, everyone makes mistakes and can also redeem themselves if they try.

thank you. i have tried this approach. and believe me i do not complain to anyone. i get 0 money from the VA (i do get treatment for alcoholism and depression)

tou are 100% right about WW2 veterans not bitching and man up.

but i would like to get peoples opinions on why that is and why, from vietnam forward, veterans, for whatever reason, have difficulty moving on? i have one theory i will post in a minute. but if anyone has a thought i would like to hear as i have wondered about this.

Play video games like a normal person instead of being a religious retard.

lol. i had a nasty hemorrhoid once and could barely move so i spent 3 days playing god of war. shit helped!

on some level veterans who aren't fucking dumb as rocks, who actually have a conscience, realize that the war they signed up for wasn't justified. they realize that their military, their government , was the aggressor, the invader, the occupying force, of a country that never attacked their homeland. they realize on some level, that THEY were the bad guy. that's tough to live with. especially when you harmed people overseas. if you have a conscience that's a good thing, now you just have to get right with yourself, make amends however you feel is necessary, or if what you did is beyond redemption accept your fate and your karma for your actions.

the korean war in which my grandfather fought, the vietnam war, and ever war since, have been illegitimate acts of aggression by the us government, and anyone taking part has made themselves a party to the crimes committed therein. many veterans are in denial about this so they cannot even begin to understand their own trauma and guilt. only the ones that can see the truth of their actions and accept them for what they are can come to terms with them and move past them. most veterans join up with noble intentions, or at least seeking a job / career, rather than to take part in war crimes.. but once you meet the reality, you must act on your conscience, every individual is still personally responsible for their choices, regardless of orders.

Go live in a nice cheap foreign country for few months or a year - say Thailand or Costa Rica or Brasil and chill, learn the language and fuck the locals. Seeing others less fortunate than yourself deal with their shitty lives will hopefully convince you that things are not so bad after all.

take it from the most decorated marine in US history:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

You're an absolutely uniformed faggot. The old school approach was to come home to serious benefits including free housing and college, beat your wife, drink, fight others, start biker gangs, and generally act like things were okay when they weren't. That whole "my granpah toughed it out" was complete bullshit. It's an American myth.

You're the little pussy bitch that thinks you can tell someone that's been through hell to toughen up. Your dick is so small you pee on your own balls.

Don't listen to this guy, OP, he's a complete faggot. Check out meditation, yoga, giving back to the community, joining a group for therapy, fishing, hiking, etc. It's a long journey to reintigrate into society after war. There's plenty of faggots out there that think they know what they're talking about which makes it even harder. Rumination can be your ruin though. Stay busy, stay positive, and realize it's a journey you're on to come home. You've returned physically but not mentally or emotionally. Some people interpret the ancient epic The Odyssey as a metaphor for what soldiers must go through to come home spiritually from combat. You're on a path. Just keep walking it.

Check out the film Once A Marine too. It's a documentary about returning home from war made by a combat vet.

i will for sure check out that movie. thank you. also, i have heard that theory about Odysseus. there is a book my therapist gave me called "Odysseus in America" very interesting. the authour also wrote, "Achilles in Vietnam" have not read that one.

thank you for the advice.

people like us, just will never find that peace and happiness like the rest. Truly, the greatest misery in adverse fortune is to once have been happy

I've been told to read it by my therapist but haven't haha.

Dude just don't believe the hype. My grandad was a Pacific Marine and spent a month behind enemy lines living under dead bodies to survive. I only found that out at his funeral from a friend of his. I saw my grandad break down about the war once at 83 and sob like a baby in the kitchen with my mom while telling war stories. The man was always the definition of tough to me so it shook me to hear him cry like that. After being behind enemy lines he switched his MOS from an artillery observer to a motor-t POG faggot. I was disappointed when I joined to find out he was in motor-t and later found out why. That experience shook him. The tougher you act the harder you fall. It's okay to hurt after all of that. You should. If you did two or three tours and didn't hurt you'd be a psychopath. At least your heart is still in there and it's functioning enough to make you feel miserable. Just fight to get back your humanity. Be strong enough to hurt. I personally have taken a lot of psychedelics and make art but that's my own path in coming home. I'm hurting too. Just know you aren't alone and the ones that tell you to suck it up got molested or something and have to act like they're okay when they aren't because ultimately they aren't strong enough to let themselves hurt or their world would crumble.

Get out of that cult of the Jehovah's. Next you need to admit and accept that you've done malevolent things while as a marine. You were in the role of the warrior who had to survive and had to kill. You in combat and you now are the same person but you don't want to admit it so you're drugging yourself and feeling empty due to "unanswerable " questions you have about yourself. Seeks therapy if you can't afford it, try sliding scale therapy locally. Google that. If that's not something you can't afford then I would suggest watching some of Dr. Jordan Peterson's talks on you tube. Those may help clear up some of got questions

It's pretty normal to feel that way after gong through war. Best way to fix this is to focus on improving yourself as a person. Learn new skills, acquire knowledge, make new friends/ relationships. Try and do fun things. It'll be hard but as you keep at it, and keep your mind occupied it'll get easier. Along the way you'll find the reason(s) that you want to live for. If the JW's is helping then keep with it. I'm assuming you believe in God so pray to him your troubles and what you want. Regardless of what you do, you won't feel better all of sudden. It's a slow crawl and sometimes you'll slump back but you gotta keep pushing yourself. You'll get there eventually,

Religion is the Opium for the people.
-Karl Marx

And it's definetly true!

the land of the free and the home of PTSD

LMAO war mongering fuckers complaining about being traumatized by war

kill yourself faggot

>LSD
>Magic Mushrooms
>DMT
>Cannbis
>Daily

You'll be fucked up after a while, but in a fun way in my opinion

As opposed to what? Capitalistic Materialism, nationalism. They're all opiates for different folks. Religion isn't special in that regard.

The war mongerers and the traumatised aren't necessarily the same. The latter is swept up and convinced by the formers words.

yeah, after being traumatized for murdering innocent people in their home go ahead and become a drug addict

lol. why would i kill myself when that is not what i want to do? i joined the Marines for good reasons. a lot of those reasons turned out to be wrong, but i did a LOT of good things. a LOT of hard things that were the right thing to do when the wrong thing to do was much easier. i have depression and alcoholism. but i am sober and trying to improve. if you really believe what you said, im not convinced you are, then you are the one that needs more help then me.

I am not a blubbering mess that lays in my room drunk all day feeling sorry for myself. i have been there. never want to return. but i am not an idiot, as your post assumes i am.

fuck off idiot.

i'm not the one crying on some imageboard because life turned out to be harder than Call of Duty.

A lot of service members, including myself, have gotten involved in a sport called milsim, it's a cross between military war games and airsoft. Allows you to get frustrations out, be around like minded people and also ease back into a normal social environment. It may not be for you, but I'd suggest you at least check it out.

call of duty?

idiot. combat was less than 1% of what being in the military is about.

am i crying? i think i am reasonably asking for advice. is this wrong?

i will for sure check it out. thank you. i went shooting about a year ago and loved it. not sure why i quit.

A little flabby, but I get the point.

This is a video from an event I went to last year. I got to ride along with these guys in their truck for a while, the whole experience was awesome. m.youtube.com/watch?v=YYbhfhCbAPA

I hope you figure out something that works for you brother.

thank. im watching it now.

You're Fucked. You'll never forgive yourself for shooting those innocent brown babies.

lol. never shot babies.

This.

Try meditation. The only thing that exists is the moment you are experiencing right now, just think about that.

>back together
>joined the army
>implying your life was ever on track
go kys honestly

isn't opium the opium for the people?

Get a dog (from a shelter). The dog will love you unconditionally and will give you a purpose in life.

>army?

Best advice on this thread.

thirded

this is way too deep for OP to undestand,

keep in mind you are talking to a retard who fell for the army scam and then some stupid religion

he's borderline retarded

They put you on antidepressants over there didn't they? Get off of them, youll have to ween yourself. Then things will start looking up

>Sup Forums how do i get my life back together?
>i found a religion. Jehovah's Witnesses.
You can't. There is no hope for you.

this.

friend of mine was a marine for a tour or two.

went to a culinary school, became a great chef, started an org to help cook food for vets and needy. seems like his life is doing pretty well now. wife and kids even

Thats the mistake my dad did. He was fucked up with depression because he did some time for firing a gun inside a home. My dad thought having kids would save his sanity. It did until me and my siblings started getting older and his depression turned into schizophrenia and alcohol. Needless to say if you plan on having children, please work on yourselves and sort your shit out before fucking up the lives of your offspring

>Jehovah's Witnesses.
Might want to start by figuring out why you fell for this Con Job. The Watchtower is lying to you.

Find yourself a fellow warrior to take on civilian life with.
You don't get through a war on your own, you need a brother there to watch your back and help you through the shit times.

Get yourself a dog and love it, even if it is a bad dog. Learn patience with the dog and you will learn patience with yourself. And, you will meet bitches and get laid with a pup. So, like, two bushes with one bird, ya know?

There's the problem right there buddy.... Jehovah's witnesses are a fucking cult.... your a fucking retard

Then shoot it when the PTSD kicks in

>I'm a fucking pussy

Enjoy all the back pats

Just fuck random tinder sluts for a while and pretend your cum is the depression leaving your body. It'll work, swear.

LMy only piece of advice was going to be looking for help anywhere but Sup Forums but you’ve got some solid support besides a few ignorant jackasses. I was in a similar place when I came back in 2009. Just keep searching for new ways to live. Travel. Meet different people and listen to their stories. Try to tell your own to anyone who will listen. Semper Fi brother

have you tried not being a faggot

This is why warriors should live like Vikings. Fighting anyone is worth it, I doubt they had ptsd and they fought for as little as the honor of it.

asking for advice makes someone a pussy?

You feel dead because you had to see the dark side of humanity. you have to know that there is also a side of light that is bigger. travels. Fall in love. Life is beautiful but it is not easy and we all pay a price for living. Dante did the same to get to paradise. It went up Satan's back. (Religion does not help, sorry my English is not very good)