What are your opinions on soyboys?

What are your opinions on soyboys?

>Parents fucked my generation up
>Unable to keep the economy stable
>Make houses impossible to buy
>Provide me with shit wages
>Expect me to do more than they did

Yeah, no thanks. I will live at home until my parents die and then inherit everything. Meals cooked, bills paid.

The joke is people thinking that slaving all day for a living is the good life. Jokes on you.

>I will live at home until my parents die and then inherit everything. Meals cooked, bills paid.
And your virginity preserved. Have fun being alone.

>Yeah, no thanks. I will live at home until my parents die and then inherit everything. Meals cooked, bills paid.
LMFAO you seriously think this? In order to become the beneficiary you must also assume all debts they owe also. End of life is a preeeety expensive time.

Such anger :D

>I have no argument, better insult him about something when I know nothing about him
Stay salty friend

Debts? You think they can afford to pay off a house and keep me there and pay for me and have debts?

Okie dokie friend.

I'll be covered for an easy rest of life when they pass.

I haven't been on here that much lately. Is soyboy the new way of saying faggot?

LOL at you omega males who think this. I pay for sex whenever I need it. Bitches leave in the morning and I stay in bed till *I* feel like getting up. I have ZERO desire to get married and have some woman bitch and moan at me all the time. I'll keep my xbone and my friday nights with the guys. Thanks

#MGTOW

It's really sad that you think love isn't real. I pity you, truly.

>Debts? You think they can afford to pay off a house and keep me there and pay for me and have debts?
You're a complete moron if you think they haven't taken on any debts while raising a child. I bet the house isn't even paid off yet, kid.

As a matter of fact, your smug attitude tells me that you are most likely going to be the REASON they have debt.

Reading is hard. You should put more effort into doing that than trying to prove a point that doesn't exist.

Fucking rekt

No. Try harder.

They can live however they please so long as they stay away from me and my hard earned money.

>when I know nothing about him
No girl wants to date a guy who still lives at home with mommy and daddy and can't take care of himself.

go back to /fit with that term

its a term that /fit came up with to describe weak scrawny looking bitch men with no muscle. nobody outside of /fit uses that term

theyre gonna have to learn to cuz thats gonna be the new norm with the way the economy and housing market is

Literally every country on the planet with the exception of america lives at home with their parents or have parents living with them

And apparently you know the desires of every single female on the Earth now.

What a narrow world view you have buddy.

>What are your opinions on soyboys?

They're giving soy a bad name.

True, soy has some chemicals that mimic estrogen, but milk has actual mammalian estrogen.

Sup Forums uses the term. I always thought they were referring to alternative looking leftists who are stereotypicaly vegan or vegetarian

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>True, soy has some chemicals that mimic estrogen, but milk has actual mammalian estrogen.
Not only this, but the phytoestrogens in soy typically lower your overall estrogen levels since they bind to the same receptors as regular estrogen, acting as a blocker.

steroids

>anyone stronger than me is using steroids
Stay cucked

yeah love is cool but a whiny bitch who complains about anything comes with that. not so cool.

when you're taking roids it doesn't matter

see

>going to buy whatever OTC snake oil this guy endorses because there's no such thing as the natty limit an just believe in yourself

And you call me the cuck

He is well within the natural limits. He has good genetics, a good diet, and works hard. It's not his fault you are a basement dwelling fat fuck whose only exercise consists of walking to the fridge and the bathroom.

>being this delusional

Well, to have a body fat below 4% like the guy in the pic you have to do either some steroids. Or VERY and I mean VERY harsh diet plan all year around. And it ruins your liver and kidneys rather fast. That is why you don't see many guys past 40 that have been shredded all the time. It is just too much of a bitch to maintain. Unless you are some kind of sponsored guy like Siege from body builders.com. Soy is quite good for that to be honest since it is lean protein. But about 85% soy is GMO and raises levels both of A vitamins and estrogens so it can grow fast and nice. Being a beta bitch I am doing some work to change that and came to thouse conclusions.

I would like to see that gay guy being urinated on by a big muthafuckin mexican cartel boss and then horse whipped until they are dead for being some gay ass mutherfuckin gay that never grew up

tim?

I don't necessarily agree with this premise that one generation fucks it up for the next. It's been said many times throughout history. I'm more convinced it is to do with an increase in economic regulations that hurt competition.

I, however, also live with my parents. I save up 95%-100% of my full-time wage each week and eventually I'll be in a position to buy a house outright. People who mock others for living with their parents don't seem to realise that if most of your wages are going on rent/food/utilities/other bills then you are cementing yourself to a life of working full-time until you are about 70 years old. That's not the kind of life I want to live.

>Well, to have a body fat below 4% like the guy in the pick you have to do either some steroids. Or VERY and I mean VERY harsh diet plan all year around.
Bullshit. I have body fat below 4% and I don't even try. If anything I would like to gain some body fat. Also, if you actually followed Jon Venus's channel, you would know that he doesn't look like that year round. Do you have any concept of how body fat is gained and lost? It's gained when you are at a caloric surplus and lost when you are at a caloric deficit. This is why most body builders do "bulking and cutting". The cutting part is how they reduce their body fat. This is bodybuilding 101.

>Soy raises estrogens
You are confused. Soy contains phytoestrogens. Phytoestrogens bind to the same receptors as regular estrogen and act as a blocker. This typically result decreased estrogen effects on the body overall when added to a typical diet. If you replace dairy products with soy products, the overall estrogen-like effects on your body would decrease because the real estrogen in dairy has a stronger effect than the phytoestrogens in soy. You are literally falling for propaganda. Try not to be a retard.

If you actually believe in love, you are the one to be pitied.

Yes but you can then "force" yourself to pay for example your house or the apartment. Paying rent is stupid from the get go that is right. But when you have a serious job that you know you want to do or a city where you will be less likely to leave you can just buy the apartment you want and pay off the credit slowly and you are on your own. Yes you will have to pay rent and food. But mooching off your parents and not paying them rent and food is just mean.

>But mooching off your parents and not paying them rent and food is just mean.

That's an interesting way of saying: "waste your hard earned wages so that we can keep you slaving for longer!". I actually have given my parents money. In my situation it's not a weekly arrangement it is just whenever they need it they know I've got it for them.

Stronger in dairy products yes. But still has the same effect and most vegan and vegetarian food is soy based. Of course if you add it to your diet wich you don't have too. And you have a high metabolism my brother has that too but when you have high metabolism and can't gain weight it will be twice as hard to make a body like that happen. And I don't care if that guy is famous or other shit like that. And don't get advice for bodybuilding on YT that is retarded. Go see a specialist that will get a set for you. That is bodybuilding 101. Also using sentences like 101 feels retarded too lets stope using thouse.

To add to my last reply: I'm a big DIY kind of person so I've decorated most of the house, done the plumbing, tiled floors, etc. It's not like I don't contribute, I just choose to spend my money and time on my family rather than strip clubs and cigarettes.

>But still has the same effect
It has a much milder estrogen-like effect. You would need absolutely insane quantities of soy to have the same level of estrogen like effects as a standard western diet.

>Most vegan and vegetarian food is soy based
That's not even true. The majority of a typical vegan diet consists mostly of vegetables, grains, beans, oats, mushrooms, nuts/seeds, etc... Even most vegan meat imitation products are wheat-based these days and products like almond milk and cashew milk are quickly becoming more popular than soy milk.

>And don't get advice for bodybuilding on YT that is retarded. Go see a specialist that will get a set for you. That is bodybuilding 101. Also using sentences like 101 feels retarded too lets stope using thouse.
So you are mad because you have never heard the term "bulking and cutting". Got it.

Conbgrats on helping them. Still you can do that. Also you can just say you are wasting money on anything besides bread. Or potatoes or shit like that. Potatoes are better since you can live off potatoes and butted and have all vitamins and minerals you need.

Going back to the problem, giving money is different when they ask for it. You should give it to them per deal each month. Otherwise you are just spending it on yourself. Buying a house in one go is no excuse. You can buy it on credit or in one go it comes down to the same thing either you pay the interest on yourself or you force your parents to pay the interest by having you there.

Nope never heard of it. Don't think I need it and will ever need since I don't feel the need to spend all of my free time on the gym and thinking what and when I can eat something. Just trying to cut off my flabby belly and have a healthy sceletal and muscular structure.

Hmm where I live its pretty much mostly soy based maybe there is a difference since we don't have the whole vegan trend that much here. Its soy this and that, very few wheat vegan things here since its a pretty much a grain producing country and its very popular from the get go.
And youhave to eat a lot of fucking dairy to grow boobs too. Not as much as you say that you need soy but still like everything in moderation has no adverse effects. Well maybe besides bleach.

Faggot.

I was gonna say you should at least pay for your own food, or cook for them once in a while. But it definitely is nice to help them out when they're in a pinch.

Its not nice since if he won't help them he also will suffer. If they won't pay for the food he will be hungry and if they won't pay for power he will be withot it too. So he is only helping himself and not them. He would help them if it was besides him while he had his own thing going. But you can always just go buy a plot of land in the middle of nowhere put 4 walls and call it a house if you think that waisting money on rent/credit is a waist of money. Land is cheap.

the majority of countries around the world stay living in their family homes even after marriage. its a no brainer. family saves money and can live nice quality lives instead of struggling financially. everyone takes care of each other and loves each other. family can watch the children while the mom and dad work. everyone wins with hte exception of privacy issues.

america set some unrealistic standard in the 50s that everyone has to have a career by 21, be married and have a kid before 30, and have their own home and luxury automobile by 30, otherwise youre a complete failure to society and seen as an outcast. its time to shed this highly unrealistic outdated pipedream and conform to the reality of the world around us.

most people cant afford to live on their own, let alone pay for college. more than half of the country is drowning in debt. apartments and houses are not only in short supply, but 3x over the average living wage in pricing due to no government regulation.

its already been statistically shown that the majority of people are moving back home at 30 now due to the failed economy/failed housing market. naturally the most sensical thing to do is build up/amass a savings during your 20s and 30s by staying at home, to support yourself late in life

>Just trying to cut off my flabby belly
In all seriousness, to force your body to use your body fat for energy, you will need to be at a caloric deficit. For each pound you want to lose, you will have to reach a cumulative deficit of approximately 3500 kcal. This equates to 500 kcal/day if you want to lose 1lb/week.
The Katch-McArdle formula for estimating your "resting daily energy expenditure" is P = 370 + (21.6*LBM)
LBM stands for "lean body mass". To calculate your lean body mass, you need to know your body fat percentage. Use your body fat percentage to determine the total weight of your body fat and then subtract it from your lean body mass. I recommend consuming a number of calories approximately equal to your resting daily energy expenditure and then adding exercise on top of that in order to obtain your desired caloric deficit. You can also consume less calories than your resting daily energy expenditure, but that will actually lower your basal metabolic rate and throw off the numbers a little bit, making you have to be at an evern larger deficit than what the calculations show.
As far as exercise to burn calories go, a good one is riding a bicycle. However, one thing I do that I know burns a ton of calories is Brazilian JiuJitsu. In order to avoid weight loss while practicing BJJ, I have to consume huge quantities of calories (I consume about 3k kcal on most days and am still borderline underweight). An hour of intensive training probably burns around 800-1000 kcal. Other similar sports such as wrestling or judo are likely to use a similar amount of calories.
As far as diet is concerned, it is easiest to control your caloric intake on a diet containing foods high in fiber, as they have the lowest caloric density. Fat/lipids contain 9kcal/g, protein and sugars/carbs contain 4kcal/g, and insoluable fiber is 0kcal/g. So foods containing fibre (ie. whole foods plant based diet) will have lower caloric density when compared to foods that do not.

>more than half of the country is drowning in debt.
There is nothing wrong with debt. It's the foundation of our economy. Learn about what a "loans standard economy" is before shitposting. Debt is the reason we can afford to live the way we do.

debt keeps people from spending. its literally the complete opposite of healthy for the economy.

>Use your body fat percentage to determine the total weight of your body fat and then subtract it from your total body weight
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No, debt allows people to spend more money than they have you fucking idiot.

nice copy pasta. translate it to english for people that arnt gymbros

not if the debt is all going to a bank to pay a college dumb fuck. college =/= goods. debt from buying goods is healthy. debt to pay for college = kills the economy

got me a nintendo switch too user

It's not pasta, and it has nothing to do with weight lifting. It's what most weight loss professionals do to calculate how many calories a person should consume and how much exercise they should get.

tl;dr to lose 1lb/week you must be at approximately a 500 kcal deficit per day. However, to know if you are at a deficit you have to know how many calories your body uses per day which requires maths and shit.

Spoken like a true high school dropout

So I guess you have never heard of things like car loans and home loans. Hell, people get loans these days to pay for expensive beds and all kinds of other things. Maybe one day you'll be a big boy and move out into the world and then you'll understand.

I am doing about 1200-1700 kcal at 187cm and 106kg.
I mostly do cario more or less as you say bicicle and running. And doing it for 1,5 months now with about 2 kg per week. I know that the first few kilograms are alwys the fastest so I am doing some gym in the last month and Is going quite good. Went to about 100 kg wich with the protin shakes and lean diet I am happy with the progress. Shame I don't have any good scale to check my body composition since all show different things even at the doctors office so meh. Going strong. Not much into martial arts even thou I know its really good for you. But too afraid of hurting myself and going back to being a fat fuck.
As for burning I have Stimerex hardcore wich helps like a motherfucker since it handles the need for food in the morning and gives me energy. Its pricy but it has been the key to my weight loss.

guess youve never heard of 2008 when the entire economy collapsed because of loans

maybe one day youll not be completely retarded and realize the difference between goods and services in the equation of a live economy.

THIS.

Such faggotry :D

You sir need the red pill.

“Parents making me feel like a kid” well from the looks of that guy and the fact he is still playing with Nintendo, he probably acts like a kid. Looks like a massive faggot that is first in line for whatever the newest Pixar movie is.

Everything is made to make life easier. If you have a healthy approach to it. Except bleach.
I have debt, I wanted a car so I took a loan. Found the best offer took it paid it and now I don't have debt.
ANd the economy collapsed as you said because it was not healthy since too many people had too many credits and loans. You can say that same thing about wheat, If the whole earths wheat production failed today it won't be the wheats fault it would be our fault for relaying too much on it.
If you take a loan you can pay off rather fast it is a good loan. If you take a loan to found 5 tvs 4 cars and 2 hookers you have to pay each month twice your sallary it is a bad loan and you don't need it. Simple as that. Not spending money also won't help you since it will be on the bank account letting the bank use it to pay for its purchases, Nothing changes,

oh no, I could not live like that

Way to oversimplify things like a faggot. The reason for banking crisis in 2008 isn't because of any problem inherrent in loans. It's because they were giving out loans to people who should not be considered qualified for those loans. They were giving out loans to people who had absolutely no chance of ever paying off those loans. Problems were made even worse by the fact that lenders overreacted to the problem and made it too difficult to get a loan, making it more difficult to sell houses and causing house prices to plummet (because at that point there were already a bunch of people with homes they purchased using loans and they were all panic selling like people stupidly tend to do when any bubble bursts)

There is literally nothing wrong with playing video games

Yeah but it’s Nintendo. You might as well get a onesie and some super hero bedsheets.

Will you share your neet bucks or tendies, friend?

fucking loser. Same mindset as my older brother. you're a leech on the only people that used to love you, which they don't anymore, they just tolerate your existence because that is the only thing they are to blame for. They tried, you are just a defective piece of shit. In the old days we would have thrown people like you to the streets or off a cliff after birth, but unfortunately that's illegal now

Like I said it. If you have to pay twice your sallary each month to pay off your debt you don't need it but then again it was not the problem here. You can also say you don't need any money since the president can sighn a document that just change the rates and bam you can burn money now since its worth shit.
Buy land and each month buy something to build your house. Since you are loosing more money by inflation alone than you are making any real progress by just piling it up.
My folks took a loan for a car and when the echange rates changed they sold the car bought two plots of land 2 houses and a year later bought back the same car. You can't forsee such shit so don't even try.

kys faggot. you've demonstrated that you know NOTHING about economics.

All of Sup Forums uses the term, now. It's too late to keep it contained.

Never heard that on Sup Forums until today. /fit/ is just board since it’s Christmas.

>/fit/ and Sup Forums
>all of Sup Forums
top kek

Boomers ruined this country and most of the rest of the west. This isn't even debatable.

But yeah, nothing wrong with living at home IF you are doing it to save money to get your own place. Soyboys and numales aren't doing that though, they are manchildren.

Yep, muh "erryone can own a home" leftoid nonsense.

IF his parents allow this then its their problem and his. Shame they are letting him do this to him too. If he was faced with like one of two things would happen.
1, He would "Man up" and get his shit toghether.
2. Go into full retard mode and end up homeless.

The second option is less possible since even having a burger flipping job can get you a basic living. As in a appartment and a hot meal each day. Everyone has to start somewhere.

The job he just got was a del taco.

I don't spend all my days worrying about other people like some fag.

So it is a minimal wage. Minimal as in its minimal compared to standart of living and enough to support the minimal living standarts. Its his parents fault he is this way. But also 21 is still living with parents age. 25 is when you should be worried.

>#MGTOW

He has three siblings who still live at home (the one in talking about is the youngest)

Granted one of the siblings is a pilot, so he's only at the house like once every 2 months. But other than that his parents are too protective and only fuel his lifestyle.

Love is temporary, and can often turn into anger.

By the way, i deleted the post because i don't want to risk him finding it (ge too commonly lurks here, but mainly for loli porn). If i want him to find out about how i feel, I'll let him know myself.

Infact, out of our 11 person friend group, 5 of us (including me) wants him out. We're just weighing all the pros and cons. Because even though he's a shitty human, he's really insanely good with technology, but his steam job is to become a twitch steamer and live off of that money.

>32
>Mfw i still living with my mom
>Mfw i pay the bills since im 18
>Mfw people say i should grow up and leave mommy´s house

>30
>Finally have thousands saved up
>Have good steady job
>Moms says I should stay until I can afford to buy a house
>Told Mom to be realistic and that's not going to happen
>Going to look at crappy apartment on Wednesday

>33
>moved out on my own at 17
>worked my way up my job
>bought my own house
>has a fiance
>let my mom move in with us

>has bodyfat below 4% and doesnt even try
>would like to gain more

Stop working in auschwitz or having anorexia.

>steroids

You can get to 180-190 lbs w/o juicing.

It's the new way of saying numale

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A lot of parents don't actually "love" their kids, they just want them the fuck out of their house asap, so they can get back the freedom they lost when they decided to have the little shits they didn't really want.

Neck yourself you faggot. You are a loser who pays for sex that means you are too ugly to attract a woman who wants to be around you. You probably smell bad too.

If I bought a house so my parents/grandparents can live with me am I a soyboy?

>I pay for sex whenever I need it.

no, you're a cool faggot