Hey, Sup Forums. What are your thoughts on transgenderism?

Hey, Sup Forums. What are your thoughts on transgenderism?

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It's gross and I don't like it

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Mental illness

You gotta give me more than that

Everyday is Halloween. Tis' a glorious time to be a five.

I don't care at all. Identity politics is cancer, regardless of whether it's pro or con 'transgenderism'

They should be treated with kindness and empathy, but they think that the concept of a woman / man should be agnostic to biology, which I disagree with.

One day history will regard our generation as unbelievably cruel to let the mentally ill mutilate themselves for the sake of preserving their delusion.

I agree with this

Shun them.

They all fucking ice themselves like 5 years after their silly mutilations, anyways.

this is a quote from someone, who?

a slippery slope
>and boy are we fucking slipping

If it's a quote I'm not aware who it's from, it's probably just something I've read on this board at some point.

I would fuck a tranny boy's tight asshole and jerk her little pale, throbbing peter until she groans and dribbles pearly cum all over her stomach in a shattering prostate orgasm and I can blow my wad deep in her lower intestine at the same time desu famiglia

Please explain

>Vanity Fair

Ironic as transgenderism is the height of vanity in the western world

Mentally ill people in need of dire help. But they instead receive praise.

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Explain what?
Are you not aware that the suicide rate for trannies is off the charts?

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Bunch of mentally ill individuals that should be put down.

They get too much attention while being such a small minority. Doctors should give them testosterone instead, to fix their hormone imbalance. If they don't have a hormone or chemical issue then no medical assistance should be offered.

my nigga

He means suicide rates are high for trannies and the rate doesn't drop after reassignment surgery or HRTs. I'm not an expert but I'd hazard a guess the suicide rates might actually go UP because they've passed a point of no return and surprise surprise, they're still mentally ill even after a doctor drilled a new hole into them.

Here's a question for you gents though, WHY is it so often M2F and not the other way around? Is it because of the societal power females have?

No idea. Women are naturally insane and have a sort of resistance against new forms of lunacy

I hate how there's this push to forgo gender rolls (ie, it's ok for girls to be tough and like trucks and for boys to be sensitive) then trannies instantly try to be as girly girl as possible wearing dresses and shoe shopping because that's what makes someone a woman.

Fuckin joke.

>unbelievably cruel
When better treatments are found(if they are found) we will be seen as doing our best to treat them with our best understanding.
The insane asylums of the 20th century were seen as cruel despite functioning on our best understanding because it was involuntary and physically/mentally excruciating. SRS is not to that level and I think that will be the yard stick that mental illness will be measured against. If people want to, they can get SRS, but it is not forced so I don't think we will be seen as cruel.

Additionally, the trend for our society has been progressing towards suggests that it will not be seen as a delusion by the majority, just as it is not framed as delusion by those who control our information. In this context, current SRS will be seen as a primitive step in the right direction.

"Let's embrace mental illness to show how tolerant we all are"

A man decides to cut off his penis and dress like a woman.

What else do you need to know?

It's a severe mental illness.

google search says they're 0.3% of the population but it's probably a much lower amount who actually go through with the genital mutilation surgery.they are an oppressed minority so i guess our tax dollars should pay for them to get estrogen injections and breast implants before they commit suicide.

I think because every man wants a pair of tits, it's just that there are people that can't understand this base instinct of wanting to see tiddies and because of how cucked society is, oddballs assume that their thoughts involve wanting those grafted into their bodies instead of just in their hands.

I stand corrected. Women have no resistance to post modern insanity. If anything they are more vulnerable to it

>Ironic as transgenderism is the height of vanity in the western world

I'd say it's more ironic since he looks like he belongs in the freak show at a fair/carnival.

I thought that was a myth

probably the same as they were the last 500 fucking threads today asking the same retarded fucking question

Show me:
1) An experiment wherein you attach electrodes to the head of a person sitting behind a screen, by which you can ascertain whether the person is male or female, based only on their brain patterns
2) Show me the results of said experiment for self-identified transgender folk. If the results of the experiment conform with their genitalia, the conclusion is that they're delusional
3) If the tranny brain gender does not conform with their genitalia, show me that self-identified trannies are THE ONLY people whose brain-gender does not conform with their genitalia.
Then, and only then, will I accept transgenderism as anything other than mental illness.
Of course, no scientist would dare go there, since that's like an insta-blacklist.

>Show me:
>1) An experiment wherein you attach electrodes to the head of a person

You didn't like it last time people showed you experiments like that.

I think it's the other way around. The most debauched degenerates are all men.

The point is not that SRS (Sex Reassignment Surgery? I'm assuming that's what your acronym means?) is cruel in the same sense as the insane asylums and lobotomies of the 20th century were cruel. Those kinds of treatments were barbaric, but not necessarily cruel (they were fucked up, but they were born from ignorance, not maliciousness.)

We're the cruel ones because we indulge the delusion instead of treating it. PC culture, LGBTQWERTYXD++ groups, and "feels > reals" all want to use these sick people to further the causes of regressivism, so we've got to tip-toe around the fact that we're letting them hack their genitals off and act like they're brave and stunning and most importantly, we've got to pretend it's totally normal and NOT simply the product of a mental illness.

If a man believes his hand is not his own, is the appropriate treatment to give him a hacksaw?

Do you suppose porn might be playing a role as well? I know transexualism has certainly been normalized in pornography since when I was a kid. Plus, just look at all the "tranny hypno" and "webms that make you want to suck cock" kind of threads on /gif/ now-a-days, it's pretty strange and definitely growing.

>jewess detected
tits or gtfo

>implying that ever happened

identity politics, lol. what a slippery slope. no amount of mental gymnastics is going to erase sexual dimorphism.

i don't really give a fuck if some dude wants to wear makeup and dresses, but I'm not going to acknowledge him as a "woman". literally the only difference between males and females are their reproductive systems and secondary sexual characteristics.

As a tranny i can tell you that gender dysphoria is indeed a mental ilness, however at this time there is currently no cure (if anyone links primozode im going to laugh at your case study of 1 person) and hormonal treatment is the only proven method of alleviating symptoms and reducing suicide rates.

Let me be the first one to tell you that despite what sjw's and the liberal media tell you, VERY VERY few of us enjoy being trans, we fucking hate it. I tried for years and years with different drugs and 4 different therapists before finally going to see an endocrinologist about hormones.

Before hormones i was a self loathing depressed NEET who couldnt function at all in society and attempted suicide 3x. After being on hormones for only a few months my life was drastically turned around and now i am a happy go lucky, independent, confident, loving, and i even get to look cute.

Now i am not here for acceptance and i dont care that most of you will hate me simply for my mental ilness. I know that being a tranny makes me a degenerate but there is nothing i can do about it. I hope this will atleast help a few of you understand.

Transgender happens when one is born with the genitals of both genders...Bruce Jenner is just an old man in a dress. No matter how he mutilates himself, you cannot change DNA.

Good goy.

Wait, now I'm confused.

That's not a trap, it's an ambush

Thanks for your input

Seriously

> attempted suicide 3x

Quitter.

>look cute

Picture related,

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>Transgender happens when one is born with the genitals of both gender
no that is intersex.

isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex
Transgenderism is when a part of the brain that deals with identity and self thinks its the wrong sex.

dsm5.org/documents/gender dysphoria fact sheet.pdf

lobotomy and castration, so they cannot reproduce

>Nip making fun of someone for anything related to suicide

>That's not a trap,
i mean if you are going to insult me you should probably do it on something other than my looks ;) i know i pass just fine.

>unironically using anime reaction images
oh you

If a medicine has a confirmed case of it working in a person, and is attacked for purely political reasons, then the lack of future studies doesn't imply its not effective.

Chop off your dick if you want, but no one is obligated to call you Sally.

Mental illness and we are doing the victims a complete diservice by enabling it instead of helping them come to terms with it.

For the slew of kids coming out the woodwork with it, its pretty much pavlovian response to the fucked up parenting theyve been subjected too

You were wearing a necklace that says trap, dude. Also you pass about as well as Bruce.

>Basketball American trying to banter,

I have non-anime ones too, here you go.

Jokes aside, does all of your treatment get covered by NHI?

>If a medicine has a confirmed case of it working in a person
it was confirmed to work on 1 out of the THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE they tested it on. The one person that it did work on wasnt even transgender, they have severe borderline personality disorder which makes you think you have lots of things wrong with you when you dont.

>Chop off your dick if you want
never
>but no one is obligated to call you Sally.
well my name has been legally changed for a while now. Its your call if you want to call me something else but you would be objectively wrong.

What's Sup Forumss opinion on me, an actual honest-to-God transsexual? I have two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome.

Gas chamber?

I'm obviously sterile so I can't pass this shit on.

That's just Klinefelters, you get a pass

>Also you pass about as well as Bruce
0/10 terrible troll attempt
apply yourself
like i said attacking my looks is not going to work.

>NHI?
im not sure what that is but my hormones were not covered by public healthcare. Up until i graduated college my dads bluecross paid for them, but since im no longer a student its about 90 bucks a month out of pocket for me. Its not too bad.

I havent had any other treatment and im never getting any surgery done.

Mental illness that gets way too much airplay.

These people should be helped properly. Not encouraged to embrace their situation. As a society we rightfully help schizophrenics, manic depressives etc with medication and counselling to help them try to live a notmal life. So why arent we doing it for these guys?

And on a personal level I just find them hideous and disgusting. At least they don't breed and thankfully a high suicide rate.

>I have two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome.

God was pretty hungover when he made you.

I meant National Health Insurance, Thanks for answering,

See, if attacking your looks didn't work you wouldn't bring up the fact it "didn't work" in every post.

Mental illness. They should be treated no different from crazy people that believe they are Jesus, Michael Jackson, etc.

your trolling is so bad i almost feel sorry for you m8. im telling you it wont work so you atleast can attempt something more substantial like my poltical views, my religion, my music tastes, etc etc etc etc

Probably because men view women as sexy and hot and women view men as gorrilas I guess.

Is he still in the news? Does he still want to transition back?

>Necklace literally says trap
Well as far as mentally ill sexual deviants go I gotta give ya points for honesty

>>Necklace literally says trap
it was a gift from a fan and i thought it was funny so i wear it sometimes.

I'm happy for you.

>VERY VERY few of us enjoy being trans, we fucking hate it.

That's true, worse when you don't have the face or figure to ever even come close to passing. I've been trying to decide between an exit bag or low elevation hanging. Have a gun, but don't want to pad the gun violence bullshit with suicide statistics. ayy

Why automatically assume I'm trolling? It seems like your reaction to criticism is to say it doesn't bother you, for your sake more than mine, and then brush off any criticism of yourself as me intentionally picking a fight out of nothing but mean-spiritedness in an attempt to convince yourself we aren't genuine.

I think it is linked to fetal development. All babies in the womb start as female andcthen after exposure to hormones in the male children start developing male features. There is probably an irregularity so all or a portion of their brain doesnt develop fully into male.

Don't kill yourself. If you have to, do helium.

>worried about statistics after youre fucking dead
then just kick back a fuckton of tylenol pm you fucking pussy

>I'm happy for you.
thank you i guess
>Why automatically assume I'm trolling?
because i know i pass extremely well and pull top cam on chaturbate sometimes.
>mean-spiritedness
>literally attacks someones looks
>gets offended over mean spiritedness
someone is triggered

this is correct. There isnt a whole lot of info at this time but prenatal hormones in the womb are thought to the be cause of people being born both intersex and transgender, with intersex being the genitals and transgender being the brain

That would be an exit bag.

Trying not to fuck things up for everyone else. Might be a small thing, but it's something.

I see it like this. It is a mental illness, and those with disphoria have a right to fuck up their body. The issue comes to play when propaganda is made about it. Only 10 years ago, no child knew what a transgender was. Let's create an analogy.

Imagine if there was an entire movement around how people with ADHD are oppressed. They are given the meds, but it isn't enough for some of them. While most of those with ADHD take meds with ease, a select few believe the meds are oppressive, and they want to be respected for who they truly are, which is being hyperactive. Now imagine if SJW's created a bandwagon over ADHD, demanding that not only people with ADHD are treated equally, but that they get attention for their ADHD. Imagine entire parades being created about ADHD pride and how great ADHD is. This will cause people, specifically children and young adults, to want to have ADHD. They start acting up in class because they are influenced by the ADHD propaganda. They get poor marks because of it, and they do shitty in life.

How does this relate to LGBT, you ask? Although it is safe to say that most exclusive homos are born that way, bisexuals are a different story. They are genetically programmed to be straight, but because of propaganda (and maybe a little bit of birth control estrogen in our water) more people are becoming bisexual instead of straight. The same could be applied to guys who crossdress. They don't have the gender disphoria, but they are curious about being a girl, so they participate in degenerate activities despite not being genetically predisposed to do so.

tl;dr Most Gays and trannies are born that way. Bisexuals and curious crossdressers are not born that way and it is a result of propaganda pushed into their heads.

What makes you think you pass well though? I'm dead serious, I'm doing this because you look like a dude in a wig. When I point it out you accuse me of trolling, and when the nip points it out you just attack their use of anime images. Not sure I'm the triggered one here, Bruce.

>Trying not to fuck things up for everyone else.
Be selfish and do what is best for you. But honestly before committing suicide you should like maybe try dieting and growing your hair out. Also you would be amazed at what hormones can do. Its better to start now before you get too old and testosterone completely rapes your body

I'm am in full support of the gay rights movement, but fully and wholy against the transgender movement, you shouldn't be able to change sex, also there are but 2 genders, male and female, to go along with the two sexes, simple biology m8s

tru

>What makes you think you pass well though?
a few reasons
1. no one complains when i use the womens bathroom and i get told im in the wrong bathroom when i go to the mens
2. Get only called female pronouns in public
3. had to literally take off my pants and show the doctor my bulge before they believed me when i told them i was male
4. top cam on chaturbate when i used to cam
5. iv posted on /soc/ and more than a few times with no one being able to tell i was a trap
6. lol tinder replies

Youve just discovered why some feminists and trannies hate eachother.

>average cost for gender change goes for more than $50,000

Why the hell do people bother with this stuff? That is so much money wasted to cut off a dick and add silicone to your breasts. I can't even count the WAYS I could use that money.

This

>Why the hell do people bother with this stuff?
because its literally a severe mental ilness and theres lots of propaganda being shilled that convinces emotionally vulnerable trannies that they will be happy with the results.

A great untapped well of little happenings.

I would want to know someone is full conversion, would not want to date, but otherwise fine with it existing in the world, I tend to lean very right wing too.

Good. Let them take care of themselves

More proof that it's a mental illness

Oh and by the way Sup Forumss favourite candidate Trump said he's actually OK with trannyism!

I don't have much of a problem with LGBs (in fact Im one) but thinking your a completely different gender or that you can change on any given day makes you messed up

I realize it's propaganda, and I don't care what happens to the people who do this, but when they start saying that it's normal, you're born like that, that's when my bullshit meters go off.

if you read my first post i totally agree with you. I hate being trans and wish there was a definite cure. Unfortunatly for me im too far into hormones to really go back and would have to unlearn all my female mannerisms and relearn all my male ones. I only hope the cure is found so that in the future no one has to go through this

It's degenerate and a mental illness that can be treated with meds.

Society should not encourage nor enable this sickness.

is it not possible that homosexuallity is a genetic fault? not trying to be rude or judgmental, but if it is genetic, it follows that transsexuality may be too, both work against reproduction, and we accept homosexes.

>sena

yay someone else watched haganai besides me

>of thousands
[citation needed]

>The one person that it did work on wasnt even transgender
Is that in your trained, medical opinion?

>well my name has been legally changed for a while now. Its your call if you want to call me something else but you would be objectively wrong.
You were given a male name because you were born with XY chromosomes and all the male sexual organs that come with it. Feel free to deny reality, but that doesn't mean you're any better than a schizophrenic being reassured by his family that the Illuminati is really out to get him and he needs to put on a fourth tin foil hat.