When will everybody realize that Libertarianism is the only moral and rational ideology?

When will everybody realize that Libertarianism is the only moral and rational ideology?

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>No taxes
The fuck?

The concept of the government not stealing your money is alien to normies, especially libtards.

How about you buy your own island and start your own anarchist country without "taxation theft" you degenerate libertarian filth.

I would I could. Also, where are your arguments?

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The best brazilian political ideology is corruption.
If I was a latin american nigger I would certainly vote for those.

I love the idea of libertarianism, I think it is the most morally correct political opinion to have, but libertarians are like communist in that they deny human nature. There is no check or balance to stop corpratism in a libertarian capitalist market which would be the fall of it pretty quickly.

>he didn't watch the debate

Open borders

When will you realize Libertarianism is outdated and already discarded by pretty much all economists in the world?
Praxeology is basically fucking voodoo too, Ayn Rand is largely debunked and outdated, so are most of your heroes.

right wing is literally the best option in each category

(((((((((AYN RAND)))))))))

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what about selling water, water companies would have a monopoly on water and it would make it that someone could only buy it from them.

That loaded rhetoric is fucking retarded Brasil, of course, if I lived in your shit hole of a country, I'd be libertarian too.

Not an argument.

Source

>water companieS
>monopoly
Just buy from the best.

Imagine an equalatoral triangle.

The bottom right is the right wing
The bottom left is the left wing
Sitting at the top like a weary eye is libertarian

The closer you get to any extreme bottom point of the triangle necessitates that you move further from the libertarian point. My point is simple, the four sided spectrum is a lie because extremism in either bipartisan direction defeats libertarianism.

>moral
>legalize heroin, meth, and other forms of societal degeneracy
>rational
lolno.

opening up your culture to openly hostile cultures isn't rational or moral.

Never. People will never all agree on one thing. There will always be a few that disagree.
>libtards
>buying into the liberal vs conservative meme
Fuck off, dumbass.
Quality contribution to the thread.

>corporatism
>in a libertarian market
The principle of libertarianism is no state intervention. Many companies are big today because they rely on government favors, tax cuts and subsidies. Companies would be much less stable in a completely free market.

Libertarianism doesn't disregard human nature, it embraces it and its outcomes.

>forced to use central bank currency

Last I checked bartering is alive and well. Just the free market decided central currency is most efficient.

Feds need to be audited regardless though, but currency is the worst method of argument.

When they accept it will save the white race with extreme ultra nationalism.

Which it will.

If anything it is unbounded, no limits. See pic.

The kikes are funding this degenerate shit because whites have got wind of Hans Herman Hoppe and Libertarian Ethno nationalism cannot br refuted, and now they're shitting gold bricks.

also the whole 'right wing is even more war hungry than the leftwing' is a relatively more recent phenomenon. it used to be the other way around

Wouldn't fascism/nazism be the other corner, opposite from libertarianism?

It would be something like, a lingo in which the left corner is extreme left (economic authoritarianism and social freedom), the right corner is extreme right (economic freedom, social authoritarianism), top corner is libertarian (economic and social freedom), bottom corner is fascism/nazism (social and economic authoriarianism).

A lozenge*

Okay, what would stop collusion between companies to artificially inflate prices to jack up the profits? If a big enough alliance is made they could destroy any business that would undercut a corporate cabal.

And now my eyes can see, libertarianism was right for me.

Libertarianism would be the globalist kikes worst nightmare.

But instead, Sup Forumstards all fell for the Trump memes. A literal fascist that supports spying and torture .

1. They wouldn't go to the first world because there wouldn't be gibsmedats
2. If they do, and if they do something wrong, they'd be treated just like insiders that commit a wrongdoing.

How do you stop a monopoly from fucking everyone that is one of the biggest questions I have for libertarianism?

If a company artificially inflate prices people simply won't be able to buy from them. There's a sweet spot for prices, because you want the most customers to afford your products as possible.

>a literal fascist
You fags always push the envelope and devalue your whole point with mindless buzzwords.

A monopoly would need to be good in order to be a monopoly in the first place

Also, the state already does that, but without needing to be good, because they can use force if you refuse to pay its "services."

>Guns
Are you a pacifist? You gon die nigguh as we form collectives for security and you haven't the same offerings
>Police
Call Home Depot
>Internet
Free wifi at Cuckbucks

Fascism is more the end result of extremism, it's characterised by an urge to silence political dissent and control the flow of information, it even has a sort of esoteric and exoteric traditions, like religion. For the current left wing, they'll preach Marxism to their followers and have them recite the break our chains creed, but when confronted by moderates suddenly they're offended by all comparisons of Marxism. This is fascism, they have propaganda and they're concerned with image and controlling the flow of information.

In my opinion both left and right have shown the potential to be fascist. It's disingenuous to label only the right wing as such.

Only libertarianism has a sort of absolutist approach to honesty, in libertarianism it's believed free flow of information is essential for the free market. You can't properly deal with someone unless you know he's trustable. I think libertarianism is quite resistant to these effects of extremism, but I'll only warn you once, it still has an extremism and despite the effects being unique it's still quite detrimental to society.

Nice, this meme is fresh and works great.

>idiot makes up absurd fantasy situation, in which people willingly place themselves in helpless positions, numerous others act against their own self interest in ways that would cripple themselves just to spite someone, the non-aggression principle is interpreted only in the way most convenient to the author, and nobody plans ahead, and this apparently disproves all of ancap.

Governments have constantly been observed killing millions and getting away with it. Come back with a realistic scenario, or one that comes even remotely close to what governments do regularly, and then we'll talk.

There is a sweet spot when you have competition, once competition is gone it is exactly what you said "what you can afford" prices will inflate destroying the buying power of the consumer.

That isn't answering the question. I understand you have to be good to get to the top but what makes you think that they would have to stay good?

Give an example of a monopoly that isn't assisted by government reform and/or influence.

I'll wait.

>mfw libertarians are now permanently discredited thanks to this meme
feels good man

>neocons
>Right wing

please fuck off

OP, I fixed your image for you.

There's a type of monopoly that's when you have like only 1 bar in a long piece of land (because there aren't many people) so they kinda naturally monopolize the few customers that are around.

>gets assblasted at some light exaggerations
>fingers in ear, not wanting to think about the many holes in his meme ideology
come back when you graduate 8th grade m8

That last part is ridiculous. You realize that nationalism is just a child of tribalism/clannishness, right? That's why it’s dying out with time.

The nuclear family is nice and everything, but that doesn't mean it justifies stealing from my work. The truth is that in a free society, nuclear families would indeed be much more common in relation to single mother households than they are now. Single motherhood would practically be abolished, because women would have no one to steal from with the nanny state's health.

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>You realize that nationalism is just a child of tribalism/clannishness, right?
Incorrect. A nation is not just joined by blood, but by ideology. The people of a nation believe in the same morals, goals, and methods, these ideas being shared because of a common greater culture. The reason why this will never die out, is because there are many different and incompatible cultures in the world. For instance, Islam teaches to massacre infidels. Is it possible for Islam to exist in a Christian or secular nation? No, hence, the need for separate nations.

>The nuclear family is nice and everything, but that doesn't mean it justifies stealing from my work. The truth is that in a free society, nuclear families would indeed be much more common in relation to single mother households than they are now. Single motherhood would practically be abolished, because women would have no one to steal from with the nanny state's health.
People will always test the boundaries of what is acceptable, and in a "free" (by which I take it you mean "Libertarian") society, women will have even less limits than before, as they will not even have the legal obligations behind a marriage to bind them to a family.

And rest assured, they will continue to have illigitimate children, only now, these children will be born to poverty. And when these poor begin starve to death, you will see people riotting in the streets, and hang you from a lightpost as Red Terror begins.

Rather than ignoring women, or rewarding women for spurning families, women must be incentivized to have families, both materially, and by public opinion.

If you believe tax is theft, you're at best a closet anarchocapitalist.

Libertarians are the kind of people who would see the country and their countrymen burn (often literally) as long as they are making a buck, or arent "bothered". Its a system of apathy and amoralism. A borderline abomination imo.

Libertarianism without a racial and isolationist stance is simply fancy, easy to digest globalism. (No taxes goy!!)

I almost want to punch myself in the mouth for saying this,
But give me fucking National Socialism pls

>Libertarianism

>rational

>only

>tfw when you laugh through nose at post

>degeneracy
>moral

We tried libertarianism, it's called feudalism

>live in a libertarian society
>go to eat at the new restaurant that just opened
>die

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>>>>>rational

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Any JohnsonMissiles here?

drinking deep from the well of Molyneux I see

>you should not be forced to give any earnings to the government

Have fun with your shitty roads, shitty infrastructure and un-licensed indian doctors.

lolbergtarianism is a code word for anarcho-Judaism

monopolies cannot exist without government intervention in the market, as eventually someone will appear that can undercut the existing market holder, and then the monopoly dies.

>Jewish ethics

you know she was a kike, right?

>open borders
>free international trade
>Not having a military so countries like Mexico can destroy your life.

Well they nominated an open-borders shill so enjoy your spics my stroke-impaired friend

>monopolies cannot exist without government intervention in the market, as eventually someone will appear that can undercut the existing market holder, and then the monopoly dies.
-The monopoly negotiates exclusivity contracts with suppliers.
-The monopoly operates at a loss until the competitor is driven out of the market.
-The monopoly buys out the competitor
Etc.

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How?

If a monopoly has the resources to make it very hard to undercut them then that is not necessarily true. If I have enough resources to undercut you for a period of time long enough to force you out of business then you are unlikely to break that monopoly.

>being moral
>being rational

l m a o

by creating a system too weak to defend itself from sociopathic weasels like the jews

Why can't they exist without government intervention?

Read this libertarians:

raikoth.net/libertarian.html

The State and the Rule of Law makes human civilization possible. Capitalism wouldn't exist without a regulatory framework of laws and institutions to protect property rights.

I'm a Capitalist, thus I'm Anti-Libertarian.


“The great corporations which we have grown to speak of rather loosely as trusts are the creatures of the State, and the State not only has the right to control them, but it is duty bound to control them wherever the need of such control is shown.”

― Theodore Roosevelt

LIBERTARIANS

BTFO
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>Germanic girl represent left wing

More proof that Germanic are cancer

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What do you find so funny?

The traditionalism meme is such a joke

>open borders
>gun control
>tpp

Why not just vote for fucking Hillary at that point?

>he's a shades of gray fag

No, you're the real dumbass

Yeah, johnson was the worst fucking canidate.
Oh well. At least he'll take votes from Hillary. While I probably won't vote, due to being unable to willingly say I support any of the canidates, trump was my second choice, so at least this basically garuntees him winning.

no DIRECT taxes. The US federal government was capable of funding itself until 1913 when the FED and IRS were instantiated.

Not only is bartering alive and well, actual money (not fiat currency) is still used. Your point is still correct.

>what is rain?

>In my opinion both left and right have shown the potential to be fascist

Fascist economic policies leave the means and modes of production in the hands of capitalists.

Until they decide it isn't done right and either enforce all sorts of arbitrary command economic policies or just outright nationalise.

Don't try to justify fascism.

It's libertarianism, stagnation or back to feudalism.

I've lived in areas where the market was not large enough to sustain two competing businesses providing the same service.

Except the US engaged in fascist economic policies from 1812~1979. And then we broke and went all Adam smith and have been the worse for it.

Actually as long as they each made under the basic personal amount they wouldn't have to pay taxes.

They could have all the eggs, potatoes and beef they could ever want. They could build their own housing and live free.

We even get to use the wagecuck roads :^)

>open borders
>legalize all degeneracy
>moral and rational

wat

>gun control
Source?

I'm forced to acquire resources to continue my existence.

Therefore, reality is oppressive and should be disbanded.

>Unironically quoting Ayn Rand

WHO WILL BUILD THE ROADS!?

Libertards are literally worse than liberals.