This is the dumbest argument against communism

This is the dumbest argument against communism

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Why? All nature seems that individual entities must ultimately live for themselves.

*deems

Makes sense, no one is going to work harder if they don't get any benefits.

>muh bootstraps

Except its not, for several reasons.

1. Human relationships and human social systems rest upon the idea of appearing reciprocal. Whether they are so or not [and they invariably are], socialist systems always appear parasitic, not reciprocal.

2. It destroys the short term incentives that make proles and drones go about their shitty everyday lives. Nobody is going to work a 9-5 out of the goodness of their hearts, with no possibility of advancement.

It's funny because communism is:

>what if we didn't have to work and everything was free ever think of that

It's a good argument, just poorly executed in this lazy meme.
Humans are naturally self-centered, greedy and apathetic. Communism attempts to solve this by forcing economic and social "equality" down the throats of individuals through the use of fascistic and state regulated means.
So therefore, communism will always fail due to mankind's natural laziness and biological shortfalls, which this meme is trying to convey.

>being this uneducated

Communism is exactly the opposite of that, fag. EVERYBODY works in communism. Maybe you should try getting info from somewhere other than infowars or theBlaze

Except each communist regime has proven it right.

>every serf continues to work while "political organizers" drink imported champagne in a tower in communism

FTFY

Actually communism will always fail because its an extremely inefficient way of responding to the wants and needs of people due to the calculation problem.

The fact that it utterly fucks up normal human social relations, which are based ultimately in concepts like shared group-identity, reciprocity, and incentives is mere icing on the shit cake.

Why so? Its more than proved.

You are literally mobilized like the rest of the population to do a certain task, whether you like it or not.

Why do people connect our commies and western red fags? Our commies were poor econimists but traditional as fuck, gays went to jail, degenerate music like rock and jazz were forbidden, hipsters despised.

No, communism pretends to abolish the management class and clerical work, then realizes that shit is essential, and not all labor is lifting heavy things, and then shovels off said white collar work onto lazy party members and fellow 'revolutionaries'.

Human nature is an afterthought for communists.

...but they have cure for everything

Refute it then, spot being a faggot and using the >muh meme

Concept:
>what if everyone worked hard, and everyone got equal pay so that nobody had to suffer, and everyone could live happily
Practice:
>what if a shitload of people were worked to death, and we just didn't account for those who don't/can't work, and gave everyone a weekly ration of a slice of cheese except for a tiny number of government workers

>tfw America will never have a cool enemy like the Soviet Union again

that communism failed, so the nu-gommies think it happened because communism wasn't inclusive enough

>Uh oh, they have a perfectly legitimate argument against communism

>IT'S DUMB U GUIS! DUMB ARGUMENT

Pot calling the toilet black.

Wtf r u talking about Isis look like they gotta go defend emperor palpatine this shit lit

I can't say that they're very cool, but we're certainly just as, if not more justified in fighting what will become the muslim hordes that sack Europe.

Hopefully we and Russia can set aside our previous differences and get along after Europe implodes and we're the only civilized countries left.

>"what about human nature, ever think of that?"

Yes, actually!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_human_nature

>Literally just 'its all cultural' bullshit

Wew lad. You sure showed us.

I would love to see an American-Russian alliance under Putin and Trump

I always wondered what would have happened had the Soviet Union not collapsed, would they have just gone down the same route as China (shift towards mixed market economy with a police state and one party rule) or kept going hardline communist?
I can't imagine a country that size existing in the information era with no internet.

Then how come almost every society that was naturally formed on earth had capitalist elements to it? How come monkeys trade things? Granted, trade isn't inherently capitalism, but that's the basics. If it weren't human nature, communism would be somewhere naturally. It isn't.

>uh oh an accepted theory doesn't agree with me
>better say it's just social conditioning

I can see why modern leftists love Marx so much

This is the best argument against Marxism.

Marx believed culture was a function of class conflict. All of human activity is contingent on material conditions and the history of those conditions. This is why Marx's philosophy is known as Historical Materialism.

You will find this thinking in all leftist thought. It is crucial to their argument. If you believe all human relations are "social constructs" (the artificial creations of man/history and not the necessary forces of nature) then it is incumbent on the government to legislate as much of human life as possible. Freedom through law.

Human nature, an ahistorical truth, a set of inalienable rights, prior to any historical precedent and not contingent to any material circumstance is the last and only defense against true authoritarianism.

China has internet you know. What they also have is a great chinese firewall to keep alien ideas away.


Also no such pact will be because America can't handle equals, only vassals. And we won't become one, will always challenge them on every issue. NATO, for example, would always stay home if we joined because we'd block every initiative for foreign war made in american interests.