So Sup Forumsros are you left wingers or right wingers? (Bonus points if we get a debate going...

So Sup Forumsros are you left wingers or right wingers? (Bonus points if we get a debate going.) (Double bonus points if we can trigger a feminist libtard)

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Left Boi

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I don't give a fuck and I hope party politics kills us all.

Obvious faggot detected.

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Im pretty neutral, Im pro some of the values my country used to represent but on the other hand I undststand how left can have some legit claims about discrimination of some of the groups.

>I'm feeling pretty opressed today

Liberal milenials, ladies and gentleman!

It is scary tho that for both political parties there's a troll that does something to make fun of the other, but the troll's party members take the prank/joke as a serious attack from the other members.


E.g I saw a recent facebook post with just a picture of a sign that says, "Please be considerate of your muslim neighbors, do not bring your dogs in this neighborhood because their religion finds them inferior." It got over 5k reactions, and a bunch of comments saying "THIS IS 'MERICA' 'I'll BRING MY DOGGOS RIGHT NOW 'FUCK ISLAM, YOU COME OVER HERE AND YOU'RE SEEING MY DOGS". Mind you there was no caption or anything, I did a quick search on the logo that was at the bottom of the flyer. That flyer was made by a right-wing troll that right-wingers took as factual evidence. They were THAT easily manipulated, and I know there's some on the left wing, but still.

I think that's the scariest shit I've seen

P.s It also happened in Canada, not even inside the states

Shit man that is standard practice. On every side and has been for 1000 years. Do you honestly think America started the war of 1812 over press ganging? Do you think at any point they thought sadam might have wmd's? Ever heard of the contra scandal?

I'm a right wing minarchist.

I'm more of a left thigh user, but working toward the right.

Yeah but it's seriously moronic and a headache seeing it in person

Right wing, but going middle quick. Looking at the other side has been an actual redpill. Both sides are writhe with confirmation bias.

I like slapping my girl's left buttcheek, but I should whack the other one as well as her pussy

>neither left or right. i'm apolitical
politics is a hobby for stupid people with too much money and/or time at their hands.

damn dude contra the game was the shit back then

Left. I believe trans people should be respected and accepted for who they are. Though OP's pic is definitely accurate for some of them.

The feminist fight for equality is the worst thing that can happen for trans* "people"; when bless Soros they win and all identities are equal, free to do what they want with no oppression, trans* will inevitably become dinosaurs operating on obsoleted identitarianism, and their plight is reduced to a mere fight for a meaningless label.

ancap master race

Nazi

Sause?

Well considering the left is insanely far left these days I guess I'm right win now, despite having more or less the same views I had a decade ago.

Did you hear about the Medusa incident? The reason people are so easy to believe these things is because they have blurred the lines of satire.
For example, similar things like that occur in the UK where harassment by Muslims to people who walk dogs, drink, or eat port in Muslim neighborhoods is common.

>caring about your country and the laws that govern you is dumb
Maybe it's a good think you don't care.

Libertarian Anarcho Capitalist

Truly I just do my own thing, work for mine and my dog's food & housing, sell my art on the side and keep all my money in my own security. Voting is useless now, fighting taxes and trying to go of grid is useless, etc. I'm just going to protect what's mine and stockpile what I want.

>tfw no girl ever shares libancap ideals

I am a fundamentalist? I want to return to a simpler, less monetized form of government, and I think all service should be a sacrifice, on all levels of government. Becoming a senator shouldn't be a jobfield, it should be a duty. Reduce the government's overhead, you create the opportunity to have more social programs, and a better standard of living per capita.

Right wing liberal.

A dead Moslem filth scum is the best possible Moslem. Drive the invading pestilence back to their cesspool home lands. We are in a full-scale cultural war that WE MUST NOT LOSE!!!

Agreed.

paleocon

When I was in like middle school and some of highschool I was an outright socialist. At the time I thought everyone was an idiot and they just needed to be ruled, and to this day I believe if you are far left - that is your honest thought process. It takes a lot of hate to want to rule with an iron fist... It puts you at the center of knowledge - and you feel like you know better than everyone - so be it communism or socialism - you want to rule by hatred.
>few years later

Was miserable / couple suicide attempts. My late teens were a mess. I am almost 40 years old now, and I still have 100s of scars all over my left arm - 10 where I almost died from. One cut went all the way through my forearm down to my bone, and after surgery it took years to recover feeling.

>Still socialist, and a deep hatred for people.

I got better... I took control of my life in my early 20s. I started reading philosophy from Kant to Ayn Rand. As an Atheist I wanted to get better with out turning off and going to a "god"... I realized that people have to control their own shit - and the only way to be happy is to be free to build your own life. There is no other way to get self esteem - you have to do it if you want to be healthy.

>Be 100% capitalist now

After coming to terms with what needs to be done to be happy - I just applied that idea to society. People need to be left alone. This means doctors - everyone. The second you implement social programs for free things - you are forcing *someone* to pay, and this is a form of slavery. The idea of free anything from the government - still - is a deep form of hatred that somehow you know better where the nature of man does not.

Feel like both sides are not very nice. I mean, both Shillary and Trump are worth each other, and the real threat - oversized military that has to constantly "get rid of" obsolete weapons and stuff, corporations and monopolies who often don't give a fuck about the law, and SJWs who are really just poison everything they touch.
Yes, military is needed, as are societal norms and free market, but fuck me that's getting out of control. Communism may be an answer, but it has never been implemented normally.

Was ultra liberal. Went to university and learned research skills and critical thinking and proper approach to getting the truth and biases and how they apply to everyone...

Then relearned everything..

Kind of redundant to me now to call yourself left or right. Youre just saying "i accept this pre made package of beliefs biases truths and bullshit."

The answers are usually (if not always) far more complicated and involve a shit tonne of factors, and a lot lies in the middle.

Sometimes it comes to an outright paradox.

I was anti capitalism until i started into e commerce.

With minimal effort and very few hours i now make a pretty decent amount of fun time money.

Nothing crazy or life changing, but enough to know how it all works, know chance has nothing to do with it and to know if i commit a 40 hour week to what I've already done i could be stupid rich.

Its hard to be mad at capitalism when you realise there is no government regulation or law outright stopping you from just learning a tiny bit of marketing and arbitrage skills and making your own money.

Im pretty lazy too when im not at my
day job where focus a lot of energy. I just got on the right track and acquired the right knowledge.

Literally anything other than natsoc is retarded.

Ever heard of John Stossel? He was this crazy left-wing liberal nut job who did a bunch of consumer reporting back in the day for ABC. His job actually made him a capitalist libertarian because he saw government fuck up so many things they were trying to fix. It ought to be called taking the orange pill or something. Either way it's good to be educated and damn hard to argue pure economics.

Libertarian fam

I consider myself a leftist because people on the left are just way more laid back. On some real shit, all the trans people that are always screaming about everything are very loud, but also a very small minority

I would be a republican/conservative if they actually stood by their principals and were really about small government... but both sides want big government.

My political views in a sentence: I just want to shoot guns and my gay friends marriage while eating mushrooms

I'm left when it comes to most things except immigration, in which category I'm probably next to Adolf Hitler on the political compass

I'm actually proud to be racist, and I'll gladly explain why to anybody who asks

Yeah, and it gets weird when you realise that key phrase "the government fucks up".

Its not a single hive minded entity. Its made up of hundreds of individuals all with their own biases, all of them smart in different ways, all of them idiots in others, and all of them making mistakes and over sights.

You dont need an evil corrupt shadow government tinfoil hat scenario for a shit government. Just a bunch of people. Which is the problem.

Ill look into that guy youre talking about. Screenshot took.

Welcome to the libertarian side friend. Sounds like you've swallowed...

He used to do a show on FoxBusiness called, wait for it, Stossel.

Now he works for a company called Reason, which does some television and also publishes a pretty good magazine. I don't know if I agree 100% with all Libertarian principles, but it's definitely a breath of fresh air.

I think the biggest eye opener for me was that people are pretty effective at governing themselves, taking care of one another, and regulating against bullshit practices without Uncle Sam needing to "protect" us every step of the way.

That sounds right of center, but not what you would consider current "right wing"

It's about where I am too. There's no real label for it. I agree with some left ideas, some right, some libertarian. i think any of them taken as a whole would be disastrous, but they all have some good stuff.

Left, because I have the controversial belief that people should be treated well

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faggot

fucking loser

Controversial?

Try to even hint that some minorities are a problem when it comes to certain crimes in any given country and you'll get shouted down irl and on social media instantly

Wtf are you even smoking

And the government needs to be a part of that. Don't forget that you commie

Does that include white supremacists and people who think gays are evil?

Because as long as they aren't hurting anyone, they should be treated well too, even if you find their opinions disgusting.

As a right winger I completely agree with you. And I also believe that power corrupts absolutely. Ergo, the more power we give our government, the worse people in general will be treated.

Right wing

>left wingers or right wingers
being this brainwashed

Only a few have taken the LOG pill

this is what i dont get
You feel "opressed" and what? that's it? shrug it off and continue working!

Until about 8th grade I had no opinion of politics. When 2008 came around (before my 8th grade year) I shilled for Obama simply because the majority of my teachers and classmates did too, I had no idea who he was or what he wanted to do with the country. I disliked John McCain because I heard a rumor that he didn't know how to use the Internet. What president can't use the Internet, I thought. I was very concerned when my parents voted for McCain. Thus, a politically confused child was born.

Come 8th grade I made a friend who had a very right wing family that imprinted on him, and by extension imprinted on me. A very John Glenn reading Fox News watching Brietbart reading Obama hating Republican family. These people gave me groundwork, and gave me an initial bias towards the right.

10th grade comes along, I transfer to a public school (fuck Catholic school) and I was concerned that it would be of absolute shit quality. By now I had developed some an-cap beliefs unironically. I remained a big-L Libertarian for all of 10th grade and most of 11th as well. Got a gf in 10th grade who was leftist but expressed her political views just as seldom as I, so we never had conflict. She introduced me to friends who had views beyond anarcho-capitalism

I started to listen to more and more viewpoints and arguments until I realized that my opinions were flawed, very flawed. They all worked in theory, but not in practice. For example, pure market capitalism does not give consumers a choice in the long run because of monopolies, and monopolies must be avoided at all costs. I still retained some opinions, like free health care. It should remain private to increase the quality of care. I began to develop some world views that applied to more than just my upper-middle class lifestyle. I could afford to choose to go to Kroger over a 7/11 for groceries. Others could not.

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I am a feminist libtard. I doubt you could trigger me though.

You are free to drive whatever car you want, to whatever job you want, work however hard you want, vacation wherever you want, say what you want, wear what you want, marry who you want, have as many kids as you want, watch whatever TV you want, surf whatever website you want, practice whatever religion you want, not practice whatever religion you want, switch religions on the drop of a dime if you want, wear a dress in public if you want, marry a dude for crying out loud if you want, have (within reason) whatever pet you want, play whatever video games you want, have multiple consoles if you want, see whatever movies you want, live wherever you want, study whatever you want, go to school wherever you want.

The only way you're oppressed that I see is the goverment forces you to pay for their shitty health care program, which Trump is slowly trying his damndest to unfuck.

Please tho Anand, please tell me how you are oppressed.

Then I got to college. No, it didn't turn me into a communist libtard. I'll save you guys the reading and I'll tell you right now: I still consider myself right-leaning. However, I cannot say that I agree with the right on every single issue.

Maybe laws that can help reduce costs of universities is not such a bad thing, and it may give them incentive to make the curriculum harder. If more people can afford to go to school, having shit academic reputation does not make you money.

Maybe some people don't deserve to make billions while they exploit their workers for low wages. Maybe companies should cut profits to treat their people better financially, either with better hours, higher wages, or more benefits. Or a combination of the three

Maybe government officials should be paid less and not accept donations, gift money, or lobbyist support.

I'm still young, maybe I'm still just naive about how the world works. But if 0 is hardcore communist liberal and 100 is an-cap, I'd put myself in the 60-65 range.

Describe my life based on the political compass test result that I got today.

Why is feminism needed in the modern world? Serious question

I am trans. And I try my best to be a girl, sure I amy fail at times, but I fucking try. Those motherfucking pieces of shit claiming to be trans but never trying, those assholes are fucking up everything. MATE: THIS IS A MEDICAL THING. IT's a rare, ,but medical thing. I'm transexual, I don't wanna be transexual, it's a horribly shitty existence, but Im trying to make it work. those fuckheads going ''hurrdurr imma trans so gimme speshul privleges''...those are assholes. and should be shot. Execute them by radbrekking!

i was referring to the people of the comic, that they fell "opressed" , ii said that they should shrug it off and continue like nothing

I am me and that's about that. The rest doesn't concern me.

Because there are still plenty of worthy causes for it.
Also, because the way in which majority opresses some groups have a lot of stuff in common between all of them, so even if all causes of women opression will be resolved in society, there still be a way to apply feminist experience to other opressed groups.
>inb4 ad hominem

Do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're not getting in someone elses way

I don't know what faggot ass label you want to assign to me.

Yeah, sorry bout that. I thought we were on the same side but still wanted to make the comment in general to lib fags who have it rough in this country

>Because there are still plenty of worthy causes for it.
>there still be a way to apply feminist experience to other oppressed groups.
Like what?Genuinely. What issues?

Which majority? Who exactly? And oppressing in which way exactly?

Serious questions. I have yet to get a good and clear answer to these questions. It's always generalizations like "the patriarchy" and just lots of different ways of saying "oppression" instead of giving examples.

ib4 "wage gap" because it's more complicated than feminists make it. Education and career choices factor in heavily, but are discarded as affecting the numbers.

It will depend on country and your opinion of what is a worthy cause, but some examples.
Gender norms that nurture women to serve certain role in society based on their sex. It leads to various problems, with, for example women representation and treatment in STEM.
Sexual harassment and coercion in certain fields lately seems to be a more serious porblem then I thought.
Also treatment of women in gamer culture really rustles my jimmies. I want to be able to play my favorite game with together with my wife without anyone commenting on her sex, hitting on her or whatever.

I voted for Plumpf. I guess right-wing.

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Read up, tranny.

imagine a good placed bomb there... what a dream

Delusional and retarded

Fucking hell. If treatment of women in gamer culture rustles your jimmies how do you feel about treatment of women on Sup Forums?

>Also treatment of women in gamer culture really rustles my jimmies. I want to be able to play my favorite game with together with my wife without anyone commenting on her sex, hitting on her or whatever.

Easy fix, don't tell you're a woman.

Look like I'm a little more libertarian than before.

>Which majority? Who exactly? And oppressing in which way exactly?
It depends on a group. Which one are you talking about? If women - look here for way in which opressing exactly.
As for which majority - in women case, males, obviously.
>Who exactly?
You want me to go full anecdotes? "Exactly" implies we will have to go on case to case basis, but I kinda hate arguing about anecdotes.
> "wage gap" because it's more complicated than feminists make it.
Lol. Who but feminists talk about wage gap? Most other people hear that phrase from feminists, and come in wanting to "debunk" it. This approach is anything if not biased, I think it is pretty easy to see.
I specialize in bio-statistics, so I guess I have at least some qualification to discuss stat-heavy sociology papers, but I am not a specialist in soc. If you want to discuss results of any particular research - link it to me.
>but are discarded as affecting the numbers.
Definetly not in every work I have seen. If you want to completely remove wage gap, you probably have to separate by all the confounding parameteres, but it doesn't necesserily mean that it is completely fair still. I can go in more details on this point in further posts.

Choosing a side is fucking retarded when neither has exclusively been right. Pick what seems more fitting to your beliefs at the time.

It is shitty way to treat women. Yet again, most interactions on Sup Forums are a shitty way to treat people overall, but it is a part of a charm. I like verbally obusing people without any reprecussions too, you know. Loosing this possibility will be a damn shame.
This fix won't work (good luck with voicechat, for example), and anyway this is a bad idea.
I won't ever have to hide my gender when I play vidiya. Why women should?

>I won't ever have to hide my gender when I play vidiya. Why women should?

Because they are physically weaker and humans love to abuse people if they can.
You won't change that, so why not hide?

I said people not monsters

>Because they are physically weaker and humans love to abuse people if they can.
Yeah. Stopping people from abusing weaker (not neccessetily in physical sense) people is kind of a point of feminism for me.
>You won't change that
Why not? It is not like even the rich and powerfull get a shit ton of flak for abusing womens. I think this is a step in right direction, but we have a lot of work to do still.
>inb4 right of the strong one
I don't believe that right of the strong one is good idea to build a socienty on. Anyone who does is retarded, I think.

1. Opinions can't be right or wrong.

2. No one shops at 7/11 for groceries. It's a convience store. They have things like eggs, milk and what not but it's much more expensive than buying at Kroger.

I don't know about you. Can't tell if you're stupid or your upbringing disconnected you from the real world.

Just put one motherfucker who knows what he is doing up there, and then let society thrive

And if "society" decides people with your views are the monsters, you're ok with them not treating you well and "punching a liberal" then?

Because it can go both ways.

Either everyone should be treated equal, or you're a hypocrite. There's no "treating equal" if there's a protected or a vilified class.

But we aren't monsters

People who think homosexuality is immoral do not consider themselves monster either.

You cann't take away the rights of others to freely speak their mind and be treated fairly without ALSO opening the door to the censorship mistreatment of people with your own views.

Wait a cotton picking second. Kroger is all about "low prices" and quality. Poor people to upper middle class shop there. If you shop at a convience store for grocery items you aren't poor enough. I could pay $1.20 for a dozen eggs at Kroger or $3 at 7/11.

Not the guy you arguing with, but you are autisctic as fuck.
If you think that based on some arbitrary criteria, not related to personal crimes, people can be stripped of their rights - what are you going to tell people who crucify blacks, because their criteria is color of skin instead of political views?

But homosexuality is not immoral. Anyone who thinks so is stupid. The constitution is very old and most countries have changed there's to better the lives of others.

Left wing.

Other guy is right. You're autistic as fuck.

This has NOTHING to do with what YOU believe. And if you can't see that then you're a brainwashed SJW who needs to get your head out of your college professors ass and start thinking for yourself.

Stop believing what other people TELL you to believe, and actually dig into these issues from BOTH sides and come to your own conclusions.

political wings are dumb

Associating yourself with a faction disallows you from expressing any views contrary to that faction's stated views.
I like guns, I like gas guzzling muscle cars, I don't like rich barons dictating that their friends get tax breaks while public school rots with aging 90's doctrine.

If this comic makes sense to you, then you literally have no idea what trans issues are about.

If you wanna vote, you have to aling yourself with pre-existing political movement. Two other options are create your own political party, which I bet you won't do, but will be happy if you do, or not vote (then fuck off).

Righty tightly.

Wrong.

I wouldn't paint myself as either; I disagree with both on pretty major issues and agree with others.

One of my major concerns is protecting the white majority, the essence of what it means to be an American in America, in the US. Without it this place would be more like Mos Eisely than America.