Why can't atheists provide a single valid argument for the absence of God?

Why can't atheists provide a single valid argument for the absence of God?

Because the burden of proof works the other way around.
Proving unspecified non-existance is impossible.

can christians provide a proof of his existence?

Furries, traps, Hillary Clinton, and most of the STD's I've contracted.

If there is no sound argument for the existence of God, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God
There is no sound argument for the existence of God
Therefore, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God.

And Christians, Muslims, Jews and the like can?

If there is no sound argument for the non-existence of God, it is reasonable to live as if there is a God.
There is no sound argument for the non-existence of God.
Therefore, it is reasonable to live as if there is a God.

P1 is not justified. We act as though things don't exist until there's reason to think they do, not the other way around.

I poop to much

If there is no sound argument for the existence of God, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God.
There is no sound argument for the existence of God.
Therefore, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God.

If there is no sound argument for the existence of God, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God.
There is no sound argument for the existence of God.
Therefore, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God.

More importantly, why do we Christians care what atheists do or don't believe in. I've never tried to convert my friends because my beliefs are exactly that and, though I've seen and felt his influence throughout my life, I can't prove it to someone else.

>If there is no sound argument for the existence of God, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God.
>There is no sound argument for the existence of God.
>Therefore, it is reasonable to live as if there is no God.

You're talking about Russel's Teapot.

I presume you don't know what I'm talking about.
I also presume you don't know who Bertrand Russel was
Its' a science-philosophical thing.
Look it up.

yeah, heard about a thing called the bible?

jesus

Heard about a thing called Harry Potter?

Dumbledore.

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>bible
>proof

seriously?

Kek

There isn't a single valid argument/shred of empirical evidence for the existence of deities in the first place.
>mental gymnastics of this level
Kys

Y'all need Jesus.

bible was written by some sand nigger to prank you all.. Christians are the biggest cucks ever

No, YOU need facts.

I also rely on Jesus to bus my tables, clean my dishes, mow my lawn and pick my strawberries

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Nice. You got them. Check mate nonbelievers.

Except it's trivial to explain why. If the burden of proof isn't on the one making the claim, then we are forced to accept an infinite number of mutually exclusive claims. This is logically inconsistent and therefore must be rejected.

As a furry trap who had gonorrhea, I agree

i shittered my bed this night.
god wouldnt have let this happen you acoustic mongrel.

Which God are you referring to?

Real talk tho I think there is a god. But people get to caught up on "my religion this, my religion that." And they forget the core beliefes that their religion teaches and also common fucking logic. Im not religous but I have faith that there is a god that brought us up from nothing to now. Only took billions of years.

>inb4 simulation and we are all fucked anyway.

Neither side can provide proof or evidence. That is why there is faith. Believing with no absolute proof. God wants us to have free will. If he proves himself then everyone is forced to believe in him. He doesn't want that. He intended it to be genuine and let us chose. It's his way of weeding out the autistic faggots and niggers

>if you do something good people won't notice you have done anything at all

If you remember logic, you'll realize that faith can be used to justify every belief, so it doesn't actually justify any belief.

So many assumptions...

The free will argument makes no sense, on multiple levels.

The most basic level is this: you can't simply choose what you do and do not believe.

Why can't you disprove the flying spaghetti monster or the invisible pink unicorn?

Unless simulation.
Who needs gas when you can erase them?

Why can't Sup Forumstards ignore an obvious bait thread and troll?

The freewill argument means God let us chose. If he made it to where we all followed him it wouldn't not be true love. It would be like programming 50 robots to love you. It's not real hence he gave us free will.

You can't disprove anything that hasn't been disproved already.

kek

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zozzled

>Mosh pit of stupidity
Sometimes it's fun to participate

longcat is long

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>The freewill argument means God let us chose.
We can't though. You cannot simply choose what you believe. If you want to claim otherwise, then choose to believe that the moon is made of green cheese, right now.
>If he made it to where we all followed him it wouldn't not be true love
This brings up another problem: belief does not equal love. There are people who believe that a god exists and think it's an asshole. A god could give evidence of its existence without forcing people to love it.

And all of them true, it seems.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
-Galileo Galilei

So anyway has anyone been on Sup Forums since the cardstand threads? I left in 2015 to go to Sup Forums. How's this place holding up.

I don't have time to explain this kid. You can't even spell chose and you still quoted it.

Same user, my original post was directed at the godders.

Only your god can judge me faggot. If you want to argue free will then i have the free will to not believe in a being that:

A: Has the power to destroy evil, but won't
B: Doesn't have that power, but wants to.

And it's sure as hell being mysterious for no god damned reason (pun intended) when it was so open to showing its power during biblical times.

Tl;dr OP is a judgemental faggot when he has no power to be

why cant religious fags not find a proof for god?
or do you only have to find proof that something exists and not that it doesnt exist?

and why are religious fags less tolerant to people not believing in a little retard in the sky than atheists are towards religious idiots?

no answer? ahhh yes, i though so :)

define god.

Huh?

Sorry, wasn't paying attention - was too busy snorting blow off some hooker's tits, who I'm going to fuck in the ass later.

Oh, it's just another stupid religitard thread with their ass-backwards arguments and total lack of logic.

I'm going back to this 'ho (I'm on the clock). When you kid-/goat-/whatever-fuckers come up with better excuses for your delusions and hallucinations, I might listen.

my dick.

I guess you had a shitty jew doc.

If you need to pay someone to fuck you, you need to get your shit together and find Jesus. He didn't need to pay prostitutes to hang out with him.

I guess that means you believe my dick exists.

cuz thats not what atheism is about

the topic is about the absence of god, not that it never existed.

If your bible is "proof" of Christianity, then the Koran is exactly the same kind of proof for Islam. The Poetic Edda and Prose Edda are proof of the Norse faith. The Enuma Elish is proof of the ancient Sumerian faith. Dianetics if proof of Scientology... do you see the problem yet?

The fact is, the bible isn't proof, it's simply a bunch of claims. That which is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

if it exists, it's not absent. check mate, atheist. suck my giant god-dick.

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do the twin towers exist?

>do you see the problem yet?
No. They're all true.

yes, in my heart. because I never forget. unlike you, you libtard snowflake.

>Why can't atheists provide a single valid argument for the absence of God?

you can't prove something exists when it's made up fucking bullshit to begin with.

Actually, yes he did.

This is a fact - I read it on a toilet wall somewhere.

Well known fact: toilet walls have far more authority and historical accuracy than your average religious text.

Now go back to fucking kids or whatever it is you do.

>A god could give evidence of its existence without forcing people to love it.

Case in point: Lucifer, an angel who knew without question that god existed, and yet chose to turn from him. Consequently, this must mean that angels have free will, which opens up a whole other metaphysical bag of worms.

They make mutually exclusive claims. They cannot all be true.

Since you are making a claim (a "proposition" philosophically speaking), the burden of proof is on YOU to prove it (e.g., it is up to YOU to prove that "God exists"); it is not on those who do not believe the proposition, to prove a negative.

You cannot deny this, escape it, try to reverse the burden of proof, or do anything else whatsoever.

You aren't allowed to say, "prove me wrong". This is a fallacy and is prohibited in discussions of this type.

YOU have to provide proof supporting the claim that YOU are making. People who don't believe the claim DO NOT have to provide evidence.

I'm sorry if you don't understand this basic principle of philosophy but it happens to be fundamental to epistemology (Google it if you don't know). If it were otherwise then people would believe in all sorts of idiotic things from pixies to unicorns to "a Giant Teapot orbiting the Sun between Mars and Jupiter". The default position is NOT to believe claims until they are supported by adequate evidence.

Either provide convincing, objective evidence (note that references to ancient holy books do NOT count) that "God" exists (and then... "which God?"), or your claim will correctly be disbelieved by all the rest of us.

Have a Nice Day!

After THIS, what does it matter what comes next?

>Well known fact: toilet walls have far more authority and historical accuracy than your average religious text.
So, your Mom actually is a whore? Nice.

>Now go back to fucking kids or whatever it is you do.
Yes, I learned that from your Dad.

>They make mutually exclusive claims. They cannot all be true.
You just don't understand the mind of God.

Does it matter? You believe, some don't. I don't care, it's not something I think about in my day to day life, so I don't really care if there is one or not

It's ok. Muslims hate atheists too.

>Actually, yes he did.
Actually, he didn't. I heard this from an alien. Aliens have more authority than restroom stalls. That's why I'm a scientologist now.

Probably the same reason theists can't find a single valid argument for the proof of God. Maybe you're both flawed human disciplines/thinking trying to grasp a nature beyond ours. That said, ya'll ain't figuring out anything new and I'm going to look for porn/ylyl.

Which god? Thor...Odin...Yahweh?

Can you prove to me that there isn't a giant teapot orbiting the sun? The burden of proof lies with the ones making the claim.

All of them.

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GOD AND ATHEISM ARE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS!

Thousands & thousands then....makes sense

So god is schitzo? He prefers multiple choice history?

...is god The Joker?

Why yes, she is. Her brain got fried reading that drivel in the bible. She was never the same after drinking that paint because "jesus told me to".

And yes, my father was a catholic priest. Raped hundreds of kids. Piece of shit ended up where he belonged: in jail, being raped by big black Bubba. Served the jesus-loving scum right.

I try never to hate on a religion I haven't seen up close and personal.

Hence why I hate on yours.

ITT: Christians making a whole bunch of a logical fallacies (ie shifting the burden of proof) while arguing against the atheist strawman they constructed (another fallacy) and thinking they are winning the argument.

>Thousands & thousands then....makes sense
I'm glad you finally agree. Thanks for conceding.

>...is god The Joker?
Bingo.

it's a punishment for letting yo gay ass be penetrated so much

Oh, I'm not religious. I'm just trolling you.

There is also no sound argument for the non-existence of huge golden omnipotent dildo, it is reasonable to live as if there is a huge golden omnipotent dildo.

Either way, if you die, you get fucked in the ass.

You’re welcome

I'm good, thanks

Does not it seem strange to them that in order to force the idea of God into the minds of the illiterate people of the Middle Ages, religious powers burned at the stake or cut off the heads of those who denied his existence?

God does not exist, and fortunately there are areas in the world where people are not killed for proclaiming it.

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If god is really all-knowing, how can we ever judge if his actions reflect him being moral, all-knowing and all-powerful without having first seen their ultimate outcome? There is no reasonable way to build an argument against that combination of traits. Anything can be countered with "its all in his plan, just wait and see the results."

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That's just consequentialist thinking. It's the ultimate in the ends justifying the means. An all-powerful and all-knowing god wouldn't need the suffering that exists in the world. The problem of evil is still a problem, philosophically and metaphysically.