Why is this movie so great?
It perfectly captures the emasculation of modern life, and man's urge to fight and create anarchy and destroy the reigns of capitalism
Some of you are probably too young to have worked a proper job. But after you have, like me, then Fight Club takes on a whole new meaning. It hits you very close to home. Basically sums up the frustrations of my life 2bh.
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It's shit.
I think it comes from the source material.
This may or not be relevant: Palahniuk's writing workshop was on a bar with a jukebox, so when people read their texts to the others, it had to be made shocking and gutting. If you follow his work you'll notice that he mainly writes about shocking material: porn, sex, violence etcetera, but in always addressing a deeper side.
The very concept of Fight Club shows this. The short story was created describing only the office and the narrator reaction to his workmates while quickly explaining what is going on: "Yes, this is blood. I am enlightened." "Self-perfection is mental masturbation, self-destruction is something else." These are some lines from the short story that went into the movie while narrating blood flows and tooth pulls.
Thee film caught it pretty by being a film about fights, yet not in a single moment we get a glorification of the violence: no big action scenes. They are there as part of the plot, rather than replacing it. It's a natural call to both the animalistic instinct to fight and the upper desire to think.
To complete it, they picked the perfect director. Fincher is just too good at constructing something appropriately repulsive, but still making it look grounded - just look at Seven and Zodiac.
Good post.
Yes I know Palahniuk is shocking, I read Guts by him when I was quite young, it certainly stuck with me.
As for what you just said about his writing workshop, I was just reading about that on Wikipedia, apparently they emphasised a technique called "dangerous writing", encouraging short and direct prose, and encouraging authors to pull on their own painful and visceral experiences when writing. Pretty interesting.
Mah buddhism
Mah consumerism
SO DEEP XD
ITT: Morons
another movie that gets good after working in a shitty office is office space
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Its proof that Fincher is Bay for grad students
I like it because it was well made. The message is extremely cliche these days though.
name ONE movie where a guy gets his shit together without a woman.
Nice.
Why? The important thing about Fight Club is the story, which is Palahniuk's.
No it's not, and here's why: you think the message is about CONSUMERISM. It's not. It's about MASCULINITY.
That's why people in this thread are saying "lol it's edgy, 14 year olds like it, xD".
Yeah, 14 year olds do like it, but for the wrong reason. The fundamental message is about masculinity. I liked the movie when I was young, but now that I am a 25 year old adult, and I've worked a shitty oppressive desk job, the movie means a hell of a lot more to me now.
It's good. The book was better, but that's always the case. It's been watched/read a lot and the poster ended up on a lot of dorm room walls, so some people don't like it anymore. The messages about masculinity are consumerism are fairly relevant still, but since we get beat over the head a lot with gender stuff and anti-capitalist sentiment (because it sells lol) all the time now, it's not as much fun.
Maybe this is Fight Club 2's time to shine, though. If Brad Pitt can get Ed Norton on board, that is. Personally, I'd really like to see it, though I haven't read the graphic novel.
It's so Kurt Cobain meets Limp Bizkit.
>but since we get beat over the head a lot with gender stuff and anti-capitalist sentiment (because it sells lol) all the time now, it's not as much fun.
I think the masculinity aspect is more relevant than ever right now though.
You're right the anti-capitalist message has been overdone, and that's probably why people hate Fight Club, but I think they should focus on the masculinity aspect though.
It was on British TV tonight and I watched it, and I had never even paid attention to the idea of emasculation before - that's probably because I was a teenager, and didn't know what it was like to live in the real world, work a job, and relate to the crushing depression and emasculation that Ed Norton's character feels.
>tfw will never be as attractive as Fight Club-era Pitt
Why even live.
The Revenant
Plebs think the movie is about manly shit. Its well known that the movie is about how its all bullshit, being super manly, anarchy, in the end you still conform.
I know that feel too user. I used to kind of live like Tyler Durden. I didn't have a club in my basement where dudes beat the shit out of each other and walked around missing teeth or anything. But I lived in a shitty house, worked out, fucked a hot chick, pranked around with people in ways that could've gotten me in serious trouble, drank when I wanted, did what I wanted all the time. I felt more like a man and an adult then than I ever have. But I eventually gave in, I guess. Went back to school, moved into a nicer place, became a more respectable member of society. I don't have any fancy european furniture or expensive clothes to flaunt, but having a little money is always nice. I really do feel like a bitch playing this game though. There is something to be said for women being attracted to losers who don't participate as well lol
What's funny is that Palahniuk is gay af lol and I think it was Brad Pitt that said he doesn't feel very much like a man by acting for a living- like he's playing instead of working.
It's pretty great. Not as amazing as some people make it out to be
>literally Sup Forums: the thread
>proper job
>frustrated with life
You found honest work and you thought it was a problem.
Maybe you're the problem.
>in the end you still conform
yes because that's what we want after we come to our senses and realize that the destruction of society is moronic
we, or the feelings that encapsulate in the movie is frustration of a middle class life through a man's point of view
If the movie is still resonating with the audience of today, then it's honestly a great movie
well when you have no personal goals in life then of course you are going to be frustrated, it does not matter if you have a proper job if you are not working towards something
the narrator was working and living with no purpose because he believed that only moneyand products could fill his literally meaningless life
It resonates because it plays on the dreams were all to chicken shit to chase. Dreams of annihilation, the shit you think about after you cum and realize what a hopeless circle it all is.
You want it all to burn because it deceives itself but just when youre about to pull the trigger you think about cheeseburgers and pussy and remember it would all go down the drain if you fell short. The will to err and the will to know are the ebb and flow, were pussified by our senses.
Discipline is death
this
Was there an implication that The Narrator was a virgin before he met Marla?
Anyone here read Fight Club 2? Big fan of both the movie and the book, and Sup Forums shit in general, but the comic fucking sucked
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You should return from whence you came.
yeah it was pretty weird and unnessecary alright, Chuckie P definitely made it intentionally unfilmable.
Fight Club inspired me to start a dojo. You guys should come and fight with us.
It is about manly shit
That sounds awesome man. We all need to fucking feel like a man at the end of the day. Otherwise we go fucking nuts. Causing mayhem, or just some mischief, is a great way of doing that.
>What's funny is that Palahniuk is gay af lol
Yeah I just read that on Wikipedia. Sucks really.
>I think it was Brad Pitt that said he doesn't feel very much like a man by acting for a living- like he's playing instead of working.
Yeah I can see that. I think the manliest jobs are working with your hands to be honest. Building shit for example. That's what I'd love to do.
It's a movie that is loved by plebs and for that reason, Sup Forums hates it. That doesn't mean it's bad though. There are many great movies that are liked by plebs (Shawshank, The Matrix, etc.)
Maybe I don't like being a bitch corporate slave but maybe you love taking the dicks in your ass bro.
>the shit you think about after you cum and realize what a hopeless circle it all is.
Hahaha fucking true.
True post though. I often think about crime. It would be so fucking fun to do, and if I made a success of it I would fuck hot bitches. But you can risk life and limb.
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>Yeah, 14 year olds do like it, but for the wrong reason. The fundamental message is about masculinity. I liked the movie when I was young, but now that I am a 25 year old adult, and I've worked a shitty oppressive desk job, the movie means a hell of a lot more to me now.
I've worked a dull desk job for 20 years. But you know what? It doesn't make me want to explode and hurt people, even though I'm a guy. Or run through town acting like a Westworld tourist. Or vote for Trump.
Maybe because I've got good friends to make sure I have good times outside of work.
I'm glad to be a guy and glad to be boyish and glad to like some stereotypical guy things, but I'm only being true to my masculine nature if I want a Fight Club kind of life? Fuck no.
I'd wake up the next morning and see Rudy Giuliani in the mirror.
>I felt more like a man and an adult then than I ever have.
Man? Sure. Adult? No, it sounds like you lived like an unrestrained teenager, casually hurting other people. That's not adult behavior. Or if it is, it's not a mature adult.
literal autism
you're reddit because your opinions are shit, has nothing to do with how much of your useless life you spend on a mongolian heintai image board
It's actually about a different aspect of masculinity, not really that much what OP is talking about. The writer is gay. He's reflecting his struggles as a gay man, and the fighting themes started as an exaggerated and distorted version of a real life experience being beat up. I think that by the end of the movie, the message isn't really supposed to be pro-anarchism, though it really depends on how you want to interpret it
The film was a critical and financial failure and killed Orion Pictures, who told David Fincher to cast unknowns instead of actors demanding top line salaries.
It didn't break even until well into the VHS rental phase.
Pahlaniuk hasn't written anything of note since, he never will, and you fedora children won't ever get over the homoerotic pseudophilosophical bullshit in the story.
> but it redpills us on how women are ruining EVERYTHING
ok kid
>I read Guts by him when I was quite young, it certainly stuck with me.
> a man has his intestines sucked out by a pool vacuum
very deep
> but it redpills us on how women are ruining EVERYTHING
cite one person in the thread saying this. I don't give a fuck about how well or bad it did financially, capeshit makes billions. It's an excellent movie with a great cast.
>tfw you'll never join a fight club
still a good movie