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Overrated football clubs:

Real Madrid = 11 CL

won the CL finals against:
- 1956 Stade de Reims (0 cl)
- 1957 Fiorentina (0 cl)
- 1958 Milan (7 cl)
- 1959 Stade de Reims (0 cl)
- 1960 Eintracht Frankfurt (0 cl)
- 1966 Partizan (0 cl)
- 1998 Juventus (2 cl)
- 2000 Valencia (0 cl)
- 2002 Bayer Leverkusen (0 cl)
- 2014 Atlético Madrid (0 cl)
- 2016 Atlético Madrid (0 cl)

lost the CL finals against:
- 1962 Benfica (2 cl)
- 1964 Internazionale (3 cl)
- 1981 Liverpool (5 cl)

Bayern Munich = 5 CL

won the CL finals against:
- 1974 Atlético Madrid (0 cl)
- 1975 Leeds United (0 cl)
- 1976 Saint-Étienne (0 cl)
- 2001 Valencia (0 cl)
- 2013 Borussia Dortmund (1 cl)

lost the CL finals against:
- 1982 Aston Villa (1 cl)
- 1987 Porto (2 cl)
- 1999 Manchester United (3 cl)
- 2010 Internazionale (3 cl)
- 2012 Chelsea (1 cl)

Holy shit, never realised how terrible they were in finals

I'm a bit biased, but look at teams Barça had to beat in these last 10-11 years: Juventus, ManU twice and Arsenal - the last two were pretty solid teams back then.

there's of course meme sampdoria in the 90s.

Europa league tier finals

Barcelona = 5 CL

won the CL finals against:
- 1992 Sampdoria (0 cl)
- 2006 Arsenal (0 cl)
- 2009 Manchester United (3 cl)
- 2011 Manchester United (3 cl)
- 2015 Juventus (2 cl)

lost the CL finals against:
- 1961 Benfica (2 cl)
- 1986 Steaua București (1 cl)
- 1994 Milan (7 cl)

>Six clay pot trophies against farmers
>ZERO trebles

Man Utd

Won CL finals versus
>1968 Benfica (2 cl)
>1999 Bayern Munich (5 cl)
>2008 Chelsea (1 cl)

Lost CL finals versus
>2009 Barcelona (5 cl)
>2011 Barcelona (5 cl)

Liverpool

Won CL finals versus
>1977 Borussia Mönchengladbach (0 cl)
>1978 Club Brugge (0 cl)
>1981 Real Madrid (11 cl)
>1984 Roma (0 cl)
>2005 Milan (7 cl)

Lost CL finals versus
>1985 Juventus (2 cl)
>2007 Milan (2 cl)

So it's official then, Man Utd are the only respectable big club.

lol Sampdoria was GOAT stfu when you don't know what you are talking about
That match was the start of UEFAlona's cheating, they scored on a non-existant free kick otherwise Samp would have won as they were the better team

the first 5 were a joke, like only 2-3 games against literally who's, and even then halal had to refball to win

Based Milan desu

Milan = 7 CL

won the CL finals against:
- 1963 Benfica (2 cl)
- 1969 Ajax (4 cl)
- 1989 Steaua București (1 cl)
- 1990 Benfica (2 cl)
- 1994 Barcelona (5 cl)
- 2003 Juventus (2 cl)
- 2007 Liverpool (5 cl)

lost the CL finals against:
- 1958 Real Madrid (11 cl)
- 1993 Marseille (1 cl)
- 1995 Ajax (4 cl)
- 2005 Liverpool (5 cl)

>Ferguson FC feat le class of 92 XD
>the only respectable big club.

1993 Marseille (1 cl*)

>you now remember the time when the CL trophy wasn't exclusive to two/three teams

...

>beat 18cl teams

Looks pretty good.

Ajax

Won EL1/CL Finals against:
70-71: Panathinaikos (0)
71-72: Inter Milan (3)
72-73: Juventus (2)
94-95: AC Milan (7)

Lost against:
68-69: AC Milan (7)
95-96: Juventus (2)

Fuck Italy tbqhf

Relevant teams beaten in CL finals:1

>Relevant teams beaten in CL finals:1
Relevant teams destroyed on the road to the finals: 46

>Man Utd
>big club

>EL1
What?

Meant to type EC1 (Europacup I) but got my mind on the EL semi against Lyon

Where does the 1 come into it though?

Back in the day you had the Europacup I and the Europacup II

That turned into the Champions League and UEFA League and finally the UEFA League turned into the Europa League

>Europacup 1
>Europacup 2
>UEFA League
Are they exclusive finnish sayings?

It was the European Cup, the Cup Winners Cup and the UEFA Cup

Never heard of this, as far as I know it was called European Champions Cup (Coppa dei Campioni here)

I'm Dutch, we used to call it the Europacup One and Europacup Two

Where did the Cup Winners Cup fit into it?

That was the Europacup II, which turned into the UEFA Cup (not UEFA league I fucked up again) which turned into the Europa League

And to be honest those was the best most honest type of European tournaments

League winners compete with eachother
Cup winners compete with eachother

Simple, easy, fair

>That was the Europacup II, which turned into the UEFA Cup
It only merged with it, UEFA Cup existed alongside it for a couple of decades. Cup Winners Cup was definitely the more prestige of the two though. It got killed off by letting more teams into the CL

ah, a conoisseur, indeed my friend.

It made sense to have more than one tournament indeed
The Europa League feels so unnecessary

because Milan already 7 cl at this point
this whole thread is retarded