> the concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive
The original tweet is even embedded in the article.
What the article says Trump said:
> Trump has called climate change a hoax, claiming that China created the myth in order to surpass the U.S. economically.
Saying the ***concept of*** (emphasis 1) ***global warming*** (emphasis 2) is a tool to benefits the Chinese in detriment of the U.S. Is not calling "climate change" a hoax.
This started as a short text that nobody probably will read and became a full blown essay about the subject. I apologise for that and I'll post anyway, it is a small dose red pill and may help people to understand better the objections a part of the right leaning individuals and organisations have with regards to the whole climate change debate.
The summary is: THE CLIMATE CHANGE DEBATE WAS COOPTED BY THE LEFT AND BY THE GLOBALISTS IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION ON A GLOBAL SCALE, BENEFITING CHINA AND HURTING THE U.S., EUROPE AND OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES.
This post will be divided in X parts so, before resorting to the leftists and globalists tactic to dismiss my point without analysing the whole reasoning try to read it. It will be long by twitter standards and even by Sup Forums standards but you guys are intelligent and can handle a longish reading every now and then.
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Brayden Flores
proud or something
Mason Hughes
MAGA
Daniel Hall
The crux of the discussion is the "anthropomorphic" (man made) cause of climate change. Some clarifications:
> climate is not weather. Weather is local and have a short cycle, climate is global and have a long cycle > there are plenty of studies and a clear explanation linking certain gases to the greenhouse effect and a potential global climate change
Now, and here are the points of debate:
> 1. is the planet going to a process of climate change? > 2. if so, is it natural and part of a natural cycle or is it man made? > 3. also, if so is it detrimental or beneficial? > 4. assuming it is predominantly man made, is it possible to reverse it? > 5. also, if so, at what cost?
Point 1 is more or less uncontroversial. People that don't understand the whole problem and argue on "gut feeling" tend to argue against this point to base their objection to what I'll argue about later. That's is a mistake because data points to the reality of climate change and arguing against it is pointless.
Point 2 is arguable but, just like point 1 there is a very good collection of data that points that man made greenhouse emission is a powerful contributor to the current global climate change pattern.
Point 3: this is the point ideology takes over science. "Scientific consensus" (an oxymoron, science should never be an appeal to authority, it should always stand on its own merits) not only states categorically that climate change is predominantly man made but also for years it predicts its catastrophic consequences on short and long term unless it is reversed.
That brings us to point 4: assuming all the previous points to be as the "scientific consensus" says, is it reversible? If so, how and (point 5) at what cost?
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Cooper Gray
Sup Forums believes Trump will defeat the Zionist.
Daniel Clark
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Noah Watson
thats pretty good
Liam Stewart
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Liam Green
GUYS QUICK I THINK I'VE BECOME A SOCIALIST
SOMEONE HELP I'M HAVING URGES TO DYE MY HAIR BLUE
MUST... PHONEBANK... F-FOR... COMRADES......
Charles Clark
Here comes the big problem, the one brought up (as succinctly as a 140 characters can fit) by Trump and by many in the "climate change skeptic” camp (something today so vilified by the media and by the left it is compared to flat earth proponents):
*** the main solution proposed by the left is to force (through government regulation) the reduction of emission of greenhouse gases by the industry. ***
They propose two main ways to achieve that:
> 1. To put a hard limit in the amount of greenhouses can be emitted, with hefty punishment for non compliance
> 2. To create the concept of "carbon credits", where the amount of greenhouse gases one can emit is allocated by the government, and companies that emit less than its share can sell its surplus to entities that want to emit more than its share.
This causes an obvious problem: there is no incentive to apply these measures at a national level, companies would simply move to other countries without the restrictions.
To solve that for many years countries (spearheaded by the left) meet trying to agree on a common framework to reduce emissions globally and at the same time. These talks (look up Kyoto protocol) happened on *** the Bill Clinton administration *** and the agreed upon measures are very damaging for U.S. industry, to the direct benefit of China.
> The Protocol is based on the principle of common but differentiated responsibilities: it puts the obligation to reduce current emissions on developed countries on the basis that they are historically responsible for the current levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
In short: developed countries (US, Canada, Europe, Australia) must reduce emissions while underdeveloped countries (like China, India, Brazil) gets a pass.
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Easton Kelly
she wants the don oy vey
Bentley Jones
Trump has best kittens though.
Julian Gonzalez
screencap this
Luke Adams
awooo~
Carter Smith
It is clearly detrimental to the U.S. (and to Europe) and it clearly benefits China even if the later economy (and consequently industrial output and emissions) will reach and maybe surpass the former in the next decades.
Even conceding all the 4 points enumerated above (it's happening, it's man made, it's detrimental and it can be reversed) the solution proposed by the left and so detrimental to the national interests of the U.S. that no national politician in its right mind would consider supporting and implementing.
So, why does the left tries to push it with all their influence (monetary, political and mediatic)?
The answer, my friends, is because the whole proposal is an attempt to implement wealth redistribution, at a global level, from the richer countries to the poorer ones.
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Aiden Hall
The CTR shill only has a bit more than an hour left in their shift. This ought to get them through it.
Kayden Powell
MAGA A G A
Josiah Ramirez
QUICK, MATCH ME
Justin Barnes
better start now
John Rodriguez
Serious question.
Why is MSM so left-leaning to the point of spinning and lying about issues, people, and circumstances that don't fit in to their mindset? I even saw this on FOX News when they threw their support behind every other Republican nominee except for Trump (which is still the case even now on some shows).
What is influencing these networks?
Logan Stewart
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Levi Sanders
PLEASE
Oliver Taylor
that has to be a false flag operation otherwise there is seriously no competiton in november, trump cannot lose
Chase Lopez
GOTTA LOVE IT, SHOPPER!!
>actually going to the Stop Trump SuperPAC twatter feed to see if that tweet was real >found out it's actually real
Will our sides ever be the same after this election year?
Cooper Evans
He won't, that's a future battle. First we need to stop the globalist Jews. Fortunately for us there's a hidden war going on between the two in the background.
Mason Price
>california >red okay
Thomas Clark
So where does Trump fit in on the political spectrum?
Nationalist Capitalism?
Nolan Lee
>There goes someone grocery money for the next week.
Levi Thompson
AMERICA FIRST
Matthew Jenkins
Sup Forums BTFO
Henry Jones
our sides will never be the same m8
Luis Evans
Nationalist protectionist imo
Tyler Price
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Kayden Fisher
WET E T
Cooper Hill
Trump is directly challenging a power structure and ideology that has subsumed both left and right and gone unquestioned for decades.
Easton Ward
>a sea wall
Kek
Angel Richardson
>PA >blue
Jaxon Gray
By allocating carbon credits not In the proportion of current industrial output but based on the fact that "on the basis that they [the developed countries] are historically responsible for the current levels of greenhouse gases" the left creates the perfect mechanism to force richer countries, if they want to keep at their current levels of productivity, to buy these "carbon credits" from poorer countries.
WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION. At a global level. From the developed countries and productive countries to the underdeveloped ones.
With China counting as underdeveloped.
Trump 140 characters can explain his objection to it at length, even these 7000 or so cannot fully. But, and that’s where people underestimate him, he have closed deals in most countries in the world and is certainly well versed in the art of spotting a bad deal.
I hope it helped you guys to understand well how the proposed remedy to "global warming" is a ploy to benefit China and other underdeveloped countries in detriment to the interest of the United States and other developed and productive ones.
Adam Butler
Global warming also helps domestic companies, in a roundabout way. It's like litter.
In the 60s we started having lots of disposable packaging and people got concerned over how much cheap plastic crap we were throwing away. So plastic manufacturers hired a marketting firm to help their image, and the result was a distraction tactic -- LITTER. Suddenly, all that trash didn't matter; only the trash that didn't make it in the trash can was worth caring about. Nevermind the landfills filling up and incinerators releasing toxic chemicals, LITTER is now the only thing people care about.
Global Warming is similar -- no one cares about the ozone hole, or acid rain, or asthma from smokestacks. Now it's all about GLOBAL WARMING. And it's really hard to comprehend a global problem, and even harder to fix it, especially as just a single individual.
So a series of concrete, obvious and easily understood problems, have been replaced with a single confusing global clusterfuck that no one can fix. And now no one gives a shit about the 20,000 kids a year who get asthma because they live next to smokestacks on factories and coal power plants, because the issue isn't "the real human beings getting sick and dying" but "the vague concept of climate changing slightly over hundreds of years."
Jacob Diaz
>What is influencing these networks?
The Jews that own them. Occam's Razor and all that.
Nathan Foster
Is she gonna be okay?
Cooper Nelson
>PA >red best case for drumpfkins
Alexander Roberts
he is a free-marketer opposed to sorosian washington consensus and the mainstream parties who support it
Have you guys read this shit yet? It's a neoliberal cuckservative defending Trump against the retarded #NeverTrump movement. He even name drops Soros.
>Here’s the point. The Trump movement, not necessarily even Trump himself, is a rallying cry against the radicalization of the left and their ridiculous list of bizarre causes–whether it’s climate change fanaticism, 80% tax rates on anyone who is successful, free college tuition for illegal immigrants, shutting down coal mines, or whatever the latest liberal grievance is.
>The Never-Trump folks on the right seem not to get the big picture here. Trump, despite his myriad flaws, has had the courage to fire the first missile back against the left’s rampage of the last decade. He, much more than any other candidate, got to the heart of what’s wrong with America: We are in the midst of a war for our culture, and lately, we’ve been losing to the radicals. The left wants to slaughter Trump because he is the greatest single threat to their monopoly control of government since Newt Gingrich rose to be Speaker two decades ago.
>I almost laugh out loud when I see anti-Trumpers on the right say: “He doesn’t share our conservative values.” They don’t get it. The left has been assaulting our conservative values without serious opposition for years. We’ve been like the French in the two world wars, putting up pitiful resistance and just folding as the Germans march right into Paris. Those “conservative values” have been run over by liberal tanks, and by joining the leftists against Trump brigades, disgruntled conservatives are aiding and abetting the people who were driving the vehicle.
Oliver Ortiz
naw she needs those black votes so back to the pot
Anthony Davis
I'm always sleeping when the big events happen
can America adopt a real time zone please? thanks.
Gabriel Harris
tl;dr
Jacob Stewart
Nice mememap
Ryder Richardson
>south >blue at all
Brody Morales
>WY blue >ever
Aiden Green
The FBI will “Blow the Whistle” if Hillary Clinton is not Indicted. “They’re Going Public”
> California could never elect a socially moderate GOP candidate with high name recognition and a strong-man vibe
Even idiots can be useful sometimes
And remember, Arnie beat A HISPANIC SPEAKER OF THE ASSEMBLY. He won more latino votes than the latino did. They don't just vote on race, they vote for power. They may dislike Trump, but they don't respect Clinton.
Cameron Jones
>PA blue loving this meme mitt fucking romney nearly flipped it, no nig to vote for and the focus on illegals will push this state so fucking far red pundits will be trying to figure out how it happened for decades
David Jones
Just be glad you won't feel the Bern
:^)
Hunter Moore
shieeeet man u tellin me *smacks lips profusely* sat she smokin dem TREES n shit man? *sucks teeth* finna get me som dat birfday caek nigga straight mufugin KUSH nigga
Adrian Campbell
ERIC TRUMP ARRESTED IN MANHATTAN, COCAINE SEIZED
Angel Parker
>half the south voting dem
Ryan Sanchez
stay mad faggot
Matthew Walker
>falling for obvious bait let me help you, /new/ is this way
Cooper Torres
I don't even choose to argue from this side although as a staunch globalist opponent and "localist" supporter that's my exact point of view.
But even conceding that global warming exists, its man made, detrimental and reversible (all points argued by the globalists and by the left) they are trying to sneak socialism at a global level via the wealth redistribution caused by the carbon credit system.
To summarise: U.S. could have to pay China (literally, in hard cash) in order to raise their allotment of emissions.
And it would be a treat away to have it reduced again and having to pay even more.
Zachary Phillips
NO!
Ayden Lopez
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Matthew Jones
TRUMP BTFO :^)
Colton Rivera
I'm sad that I will never be a part of the great Meme war of 2018 that will occur because Sanders's supporters can't handle being Stumped. Then we put all the socialists into camps and make them build the wall.
Alexander Kelly
He was a good boy didnt do nuffin
Nathan Baker
yeah something like that
Josiah Fisher
It's the extended phenotype of jews. Jews own every single major media outlet. They are culture destroyers. They rise to power because they are damn smart. They create debt-economies, they promote ''''art'''' (usually scary and grotesque modern art at the expense of traditional art), they have their media praise these monstrosities.
No it's not some global conspiracy, it's just the way they act and almost every nation that has housed jews has recognized this after a while and acted against it. Germany being the most notable example (you can read some Hitler and see what he was fighting against)
Beavers build dams. some beavers from other places build different kinds dams. THIS IS THEIR EXTENDED PHENOTYPE. So while some human being produce cultures that praise beauty, motherhood, traditional roles, and cozy little towns, the Jews produce resentment, debt and hate against the interest of the better cultures. This is what is meant when people talk about "superior" races. Not who is the smartest, but who produces the best world to live in.
pic related. saw this toady in the book exchange
Brody Morris
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Brody Cruz
>GA >didn't go blue for Onigger either time >going blue for Satan people don't seem to realize that once you leave Atlanta it's literally nothing but farms and churches
Easton Gonzalez
"Dammit, Peggy, I'm trying to stop the outbreak, and you're driving the monkey to the airport."
Matthew Perry
>Trump has best kittens BUT BERNIE HAS THE BEST DANK MEMES I WOULD BUT I DON'T HAVE A JOB... SHIT I'M BECOMING A SOCIALIST EVEN FASTER THAN I THOUGHT! >IMPLYING I HAVE MONEY THAT'S IT I AM NOW A #SOCIALISTVOCALIST
HOW CAN YOU DRUMPFKINS EVEN COMPETE?
Grayson Nguyen
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Anthony Perez
>9th nov 2015
Julian Gomez
>non-american >thinking their opinion matters to Americans What else is there to do besides argue with shills and shitpost right now famalam?
James Morales
>you will never have a patriotic election map
Feels bad
Carson Diaz
I see those drugs she;s got him on are working, hasn't looked this good in months
Henry Ross
bill please kek
Nicholas Mitchell
say it with me drumpfkkkins
BTFO T F O
Dominic Butler
> Bern victims and Shrillery fans make up fake maps > Conservatives remember real ones
Thomas Taylor
excellent post. Everyone should read Culture of Critique to learn more about why jews act the way they do.
Austin Foster
What are these reports about Trump saying to Paul Ryan in private that he wants to cut social security? Sounds like a lot of bullshit to me.
Cameron Rodriguez
A W O O W O O
Justin James
Very insightful, Alberto Barbosa, copypasting it next time some nigger brings up that Trump tweet.
Ryder Phillips
>Bush
Aaron Hall
All the daydreamers in unicorn land who think she will get away with this forget, the FBI can give the entire pile of evidence to the Congress, who can do whatever the fuck they want with it.
Lucas Taylor
tl;dr:
Even if one concede the main points of the globalist left that climate change is man made, detrimental and reversible the left is using it to implement socialism at a global level.
It is the old trick:
> You deny global warming? You are no better than flat earth proponents > OK, you accept it? Then the only solution is our solution > It involves making US and Europe paying poor countries in order to keep industrial production > Wait, that's wealth redistribution? Pure coincidence!
Thomas Gray
i thought its just the undead once you leave atlanta
Luis Wilson
guac time
Sebastian Sanders
this is what would've happened if you morons voted for the real threat that was Ted
latinos would see cruz and jump to vote
Adam Jenkins
>Man With 100% Track Record on Several Coin Flips Predicts Heads Will be the Next Result (100,000 other guesser to be quietly Ignored)
Nicholas Ross
Considering he keeps saying at his rallies that "We're going to save your social security", I don't think those reports have any merit.
Brandon Campbell
To the french defense they did very well in ww1.
Andrew Mitchell
joke is on you because i am actually a former navy seal currently training a secret kosovo-serbian militia that will restore serbia to greatness once trump gets elected
This. If you study and reflect on Jewish literature you will see that they were already "doing" push-media, memes, movie reference type jokes, parodies etc, well before mass media, and then when mass media became available, they naturally absorbed it and used it to amplify mechanisms that had previously been kept to themselves.
