Have they ever actually done anything wrong? It doesn't seem like they've ever violently conquered anything, committed any genocides, or really done any harm to anybody that wasn't in self-defence. All of their historical woes seem to have arisen from being too nice to vanquished enemies and then eventually getting buttfucked by it in the future.
If Europe's history was a book or movie, they would be the good guy protagonist. Bravo, Bolan!
>haven't taken any refugees >good guys they will pay for their transgressions, by allah.
Gabriel Russell
>Have they ever actually done anything wrong? yes, they trusted Brits instead of accepting Hitler's alliance's offer.
Daniel Stewart
well hitler hated poland
Christopher Watson
Well, in their defense, they are not a developed nation unlike other nations that got rich during the 19th century exploiting the riches of far continents and now don't even want to be part the Europe that swear to defend against the Nazis years ago just to let the Commies do all the dirty work.
Chase Green
He actually did but only after we rejected his offer to ally with Germany.
Kevin Young
>It doesn't seem like they've ever violently conquered anything, committed any genocides, or really done any harm to anybody that wasn't in self-defence. That's why they're the most kicked around people of history
Caleb Perez
They actually had imperialist ambitions but were too incompetent to carry them out successfully. And nowadays they love to play the victim card lol
Ayden Price
/thread
Ryan Torres
and that's unironically good, non being rich is protecting them of being a muslims shithole like the UK and Germany
Nolan Sullivan
Imperialist ambitions such as what? They didn't even have a form of government that allowed the king or anybody to initiate offensive wars, it would have been rejected by the Sejm immediately in almost all cases. It sounds like you're just making shit up desu.
Poland is considered the "Christ of the nations" because of that
Jace Perez
Whichever Slavs were "acceptable" to Hitler always just depended on who collaborated with him the most. >agree to send him Jews or contribute troops to the SS >suddenly the Nazi government has discovered proof that you are actually descendants of a long-lost Germanic tribe or something and therefore are okay guys Every time
Jordan Wood
tl;dr version - big fucking nothing
Evan Russell
Honestly don't think there's anything more pathetic or embarrassing than Slav neo-Nazis
Ryder Brooks
It's the intention that counts black neo-nazis?
Hudson Clark
Jewish Neo-Nazis
Luis Lopez
>colonization attempts by Poland >while no such country on the map isn't that hilarious?
Oliver Peterson
>intention ha. Ha. Hahaha
Caleb Harris
>In 1882, almost a century after Poland was partitioned and lost its independence, Polish nobleman and officer of Russian Imperial Fleet, Stefan Szolc-Rogoziński organized an expedition to Cameroon.[3][4] Officially that was an exploration expedition, but unofficially the expedition was looking for a place a Polish colony could be founded.[5] it would have been pretty hilarious if Poland just decided "fuck you guys, we're done being part of Europe" and just moved to Africa.
>thread about Polish history >Poles and people interested in Polish history show up thank you for giving us the big enchilada on this conspiracy, Alex Jones
Ian Nelson
Looks like a christmas tree
Oliver Ramirez
>In 1802, Napoleon added a Polish legion of around 5,200 to the forces sent to Saint-Domingue to fight off the slave rebellion
>Upon arrival and the first combat actions, discovering that the slaves fought off their French masters for their freedom, vast majority of Poles eventually joined the slaves against the French
le kek
Oliver Baker
We conquered Pomeranians and forced them to convert, we also took Kiev and Moscow.
>A peasant in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was obliged to work on his lord's land for a fixed number of days (this was at first considered as payment for using the land) – and these quota kept growing in early modern Poland, leading to a situation where the amount could reach more than seven days a week (sic!).
these peasants were mainly ukie descent
>In 1569, the Polish Crown entered a political union with Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which resulted in forming one of the biggest countries in the history of Europe: The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The same political act incorporated large portions of most south-eastern voivodeships administered until then by the Grand Duchy of Lithuania into the Crown of Poland. This meant that large portions of the region which is today's Ukraine became the scene of a huge Polish economic expansion – a process that has been recently more and more often called 'colonization'.
>In what way did Poland colonize Ukraine? Sowa points that Polish colonization of Ukraine may be compared to the British colonization of India, in both cases it was only the elites (land owners) that were active in colonization. These elites were, on the one hand, coming from Poland to buy land (with peasants, naturally), on the other, the local Ruthenian nobility, owners of vast lands in this region, was becoming increasingly Polonized. This resulted in a situation where much of the Ukrainian farming land was in the hands of Polish or Polonized nobility – in other words in the hands of Polish landlords.
people point to bandera's massacre of the polish people as inhumane, but they don't realize it was the first slight against the evils of a much worse neighbor
Logan Morales
>he doesn't know that a lot of peasants were richer than nobility
Oliver Howard
>Ukrainian farming land What the fuck is that? There was no ukraine when the Commonwealth expanded in that direction.
Hunter Green
none of this sounds remotely bad in the context of 16th century Europe. It also takes some pretty big liberties with the definition of colonization.
Jaxson Wilson
Not to mention that "ukraine" was a polish word, and name given by poles who settled there It was something of the wild outskirts
Levi Collins
>but they don't realize it was the first slight against the evils of a much worse neighbor >ukrainians killing polish peasants in revenge for being made into peasants Is this the extend of ukrainian intelligence? This only shows they have ZERO empathy for people that lived the same wretched lives as them.
Adam Bennett
> t. polish intelligence defense force it was a good thread until you all flooded in
>ukrainian intelligence im anglo australian
Easton King
Poland is pretty much the South Korea of Europe.
And Warsaw is the Seoul of Europe. Skyscrapers and commieblocks everywhere.
Wyatt Scott
>Poland is pretty much the South Korea of Europe I wish.
Asher Sanchez
yes they are catholics
John Cox
Look m8 there is no justification for the massacres the Ukrainians did. Non. No amount of serfdom justifies cutting pregnant women with saws just to strangle the unborn babies. Bandera trash were animals.
Samuel Rivera
so do you actually have any rebuttals or what? Your argument was pretty shit.
Aiden Cox
I'm not referring to the Korean economy, more like to history and recent architecture.
Both Poland and Korea were stuck between two superpowers for most of their history. Since 19th century, one of these superpowers was a relatively small, but very developed country (Germany-Japan), and the second one was big, yet lagging behind (Russia-China). And these two superpowers fought on their territory every century, killing and enslaving their people and destroying cities. Now they're mostly fine with both superpowers, yet they're still suspicious of them.
Also, both countries are among the most homogenous ones in the world.
The only difference between Poland and Korea is that they are richer than us, but not as much as people think, also they have to work more than us.
Eli Ward
>Have they ever actually done anything wrong? They invaded Russia, occupied Moscow and tried to install a puppet tsar in the 17th century. They also meddled with Moldovan politics and invaded and conquered Estonia.
It's the dindu nuffin country.
Wyatt Watson
>They invaded Russia How is that wrong?
Logan Bell
D E L E T E E L E T E
Jeremiah Campbell
>poland conquered estonia wut?
Benjamin Diaz
>conquer Pomerania, apparently with huge casualities and much destruction on Pomeranian side >after ending war with Czechs raid Old Purssians pretty much for sport
in the middle ages we weren't peaceful we turned into faggots once PLC became a thing >conquered Estonia when? What the fuck is Estonia?
Liam Taylor
>Playing the victim is somehow morally virtuous Pleb detected
Christian Hughes
Russia being ruled from Warsaw would have been the best solution for everybody desu
Camden Morris
Poland owned half of Estonia and the Polish king established the school in Tartu, that became the university then.
Just look at ths thread Also, it wouldn't change my point either way
Joseph Morris
Gib youth back
Ryder Gomez
poles are too pure for this world
Blake Rivera
Youth?
Zachary Collins
...
David Russell
Youth.
Adam Miller
Stop portraying us as dindunuffins you cunts the only reason why our conquests were small is because we were surrounded by enemies so it wasn't really possible to go much in one direction. Kinda like in HOMM 3 when your first heroes can't really fuck off to the edge of the map yet .
Dylan Miller
>We conquered Pomeranians You can't conquer yourself, dummy.
Benjamin Davis
They weren't nice to orthodox population and tried to conquer us.
Evan Jones
Same king.
Gavin Lee
Polish death camps
Christian Edwards
Still, peasants in Poland had much better life than peasants in any other part of Europe at that time.
Nathaniel Turner
>they weren't nice to the orthodox population They were treated like god damn kittens compared to what would have happened to them anywhere else in Catholic/Protestant Europe.
Parker Flores
>HOMM 3 analogy
Ayyyy
Colton Ortiz
true
Anthony Gray
Imagine how the world would look like today if Polish-Lithuanian-Swedish-Muscovite Union actually became a real thing.
also explain how the fuck can you raid yourself then genius >inb4 m-muh german propaganda! >with polish sources >with songs explictly about the subject
This should be our anthem instead of that fucking village song we have now.
Jason Nguyen
Ukies loved it so much they ran to Moscow tsar for help.
James Kelly
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William Torres
>even Gal Anonim mentions Poles and Pomeranians as separate nations in his chronicle >middle ages >nations Are you actually retarded?
Pomeranians were as separate as any other tribe that constituted the Polish ethnos. The main reason for many wars between them and the rest of Poland was that they were the ones to oppose accepting christianity the longest.
Also, when you are referring to a source, quote it. I don't remember Gall Anonim saying anything like that.
Liam Cooper
Yes, and they regretted it very quickly.
Blake Mitchell
the children was born before russia tho
it just doesn't work
Zachary Phillips
Are you fucking retarded you think we lived in tribes in 12th century? Also you could actually read you inbred idiot zswsucha.iap.pl/STREFA_N/WiLeHi/lektury/kronika/0081.htm >explictly mentions Czechs and Hungarians >HURR NO NATIONS! ONLY TRIBES UNTIL THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
Nathaniel Kelly
Ah yeah, I heard that theory. Let me remind you something I remember the myth about Lech, Czech and Rus, not Lech, Czech, and Ukie
Jaxson Kelly
Different user, nationality was mostly for nobility. Peasants were still in tribal mentality
There is one problem. Ukrainians cannot be your father, because they were our son
Lucas Carter
you're goddamn right
Ethan Reyes
Russia != Rus != Uki
it was formed after and by different retards
Thomas Jones
Then it means that you and ukrainians have the same ancestors.
Kayden Adams
thats semi-correct
its all in "maybe" cathegory tho, no proofs
but we sure weren't formed by siberian tribes like some "people" like to think
Leo Gutierrez
Given how vast your lands are.... You could be very well from space.
I myself have different "ethnicies", though. Mostly Tatar genes.
Ayden Brooks
t. K*shub
There are older Rus sources listing Polans, Pomeranians as well as other tribes as part of the same Lechitic ethnos. Pomeranians became separate "nation" only when they became germanized.
>Are you fucking retarded you think we lived in tribes in 12th century? Nations are a 19th century invention.