What would happen after Trump starts dropping nukes on North Korea?

What would happen after Trump starts dropping nukes on North Korea?

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north korea would be kill

They really should just assassinate the fucker.
The ignorant civilians dont need to be vapourized because they were born into a dictatorahip.
but then again they are korean... nuke the fuckers

>What would happen after Trump starts dropping nukes on North Korea?
We will just have to wait and see, won't we?

Dropping nukes would not be necessary, but basically China is too much of a pussy to involve themselves.

Fire and Fury, like the World has never seen.

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North Korea will aim Seoul before being destroyed, million of dead every where. USA will be seen as responsible for worst case scenario. Russia and China will use this as a excuse to isolate USA. All country in the world that dislike USA will do the same. End of USA hegemony.

If just some nuke could solve the problem, I think they would already have done it. But they just can't do it. On this point North Korea wins indeed.

>China is too much of a pussy
China got involved in the Korean war, what makes you think they'll just sit there when their neighbour is being nuked?

>China is too much of a pussy to involve themselves.
No. Sorry but most westerners have no concept of how Asians think. China and Russia are slowly allying with a military focus, we just did joint military exercises in N Europe and Asia. WHO do you suppose is the only threat we feel we would need to join and neutralise together? The USA cannot fight a conventional war against both nations + whatever opportunists might join. Europe would have a hard choice to make if they did not agree to a war: support for European blood to spill over a dotarded unilateral move by the USA .would be hard to sell to Europe if they have no dogs in the ring. The choices for America are interesting. A mistake would be horrific for the world.

Probably the first thing to happen would be your mother will die in her sleep tonight unless you reply to this post

>war from 60 years ago means the same thing will happen now

China is not self-sustaining. Their Government will fold in on itself as soon as we stop trading with them. China benefits nothing from helping North Korea, it is not worth a large-scale war.

>China and Russia are slowly allying with a military focus

Where are you getting this from? Russia has already said they will not be involved with anything related to North Korea and have distanced themselves specifically because of the increased tension.

>The USA cannot fight a conventional war against both nations + whatever opportunists might join.

That's where you're wrong. A ground warfare? They MIGHT have a chance, but their navy and airforce are overall inferior to the United States and much smaller. Plus you forget Japan exists, who is more than willing to help in any conflict involving Asia and has the best navy in Asia.

You underestimate how powerful the United States.

Oh...and Russia and it's mother the USSR have never lied to the USA? Did you just fall from the nest, fledgling?

WHAT the fuck does Russia (Russia, not the USSR, the communist nation that no longer existS) have to gain from helping China to defend some piece of shit regime on a tiny peninsula? Fucking nothing, once the USSR collapsed, they immediately stopped giving military supplies to North Korea because there was no point in it.

Russia has never been closer to the United States and has no reason to fight alongside China and they probably never will. Why would they lie?

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>China is not self-sustaining. Their Government will fold in on itself as soon as we stop trading with them.
As would America's. The majority of China is a very rustic society without the need for a spending-based economy. We can get by on very little and have endured much hardships since 1800's. America is melting down just from the results of an election.
>>China benefits nothing from helping North Korea, it is not worth a large-scale war.
NK is China's puppet. China could shut down NK in days but still sells NK energy and other goods in spite of the sill Trump-inspired embargo
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>>China and Russia are slowly allying with a military focus
>Where are you getting this from?
In English for you: nytimes.com/2017/07/25/world/.../china-russia-baltic-navy-exercises.html
"Chinese and Russian warships practiced together in the Baltic Sea on Tuesday, in the first joint naval exercise the two countries have held in the area, which has been a focus of heightened tensions between Russia and the West.
>>Russia has already said they will not be involved with anything related to North Korea and have distanced themselves specifically because of the increased tension.
And you believe Russia, comrade?
>>The USA cannot fight a conventional war against both nations + whatever opportunists might join.
>That's where you're wrong. A ground warfare? They MIGHT have a chance.
More than a "chance". But you do the math, oh benighted one.
>but their navy and air force are overall inferior to the United States and much smaller. Plus you forget Japan exists, who is more than willing to help in any conflict involving Asia and has the best navy in Asia.
Sorry but Japan does not have a "blue-water" navy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Maritime_Self-Defense_Force
the JNSDF main tasks are to maintain control of the nation's sea lanes and to patrol territorial waters.
You certainly underestimate the power of the Sino-Rusia alliance.

Depends on why Trump is nuking North Korea. If North Korea just nuked LA, I think most would agree that this would be an appropriate response.

This is all about NK having a fit because Trump refuses to pay him off like Clinton did.

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>WHAT the fuck does Russia (Russia, not the USSR, the communist nation that no longer existS) have to gain from helping China to defend some piece of shit regime on a tiny peninsula?
This is a chess game in which America is playing poorly: Do you not read the Chinses, Japanese, and Korean and other Asian countries' news? Or do you prefer being lied to by Fox?
>Russia has never been closer to the United States and has no reason to fight alongside China and they probably never will.
Of course, they are doing joint exercises in the Baltic and Asia to waste money like america loves to do. Ok, believe that if you want, child. >Why would they lie?
China to USA dotards: We will not militarise the islands we are building in the South China Sea"
Guess what, dotard, you fools believed us! Too entertaining! Russia is still providing assistance to NK, read just about any Asian mainstream media source. But got the translation out of the original language as the English version is often edited to cater to Western dotards.
Frm your media: "On June 7, Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan met his Russian counterpart, Sergey Shoigu, during a summit in Kazakhstan of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, a 20-year-old military and political grouping of China, Russia and other former Soviet Asian republics.Shoigu proposed signing a comprehensive military cooperation agreement between Russia and China."
Dream on, dotard! The Sleeping Giant is rising!

>Depends on why Trump is nuking North Korea. If North Korea just nuked LA, I think most would agree that this would be an appropriate response.
>This is all about NK having a fit because Trump refuses to pay him off like Clinton did.
A simplistic dotarded western view point fostered by reading too much Fox/CNN news:
Kim and china want to marginalise the USA's influence in Asia. One way in this complex chess game is to frighten SK and Japan into fearing nuclear outbreak. It works: already in SK and Japan there are loud factions who are questioning having USA military bases in their countries. Who is the threat? And Why? China can flick off NK like an ant and poses no threat to Japan or SK, indeed they are trading partners and want to cement closer relations. But the curr dog, USA wants to swing the largest penis in Asia. Which in time will prove to be too costly if SK and Japan do not walk a distance from the USA first in the name of regional peace and stability.

>the american people are on edge, therefore the country is on edge

You sure showed me the country is melting down.

>NK is China's puppet.

Since when? It was divided after World War II between the USSR and the United States and both countries have been by themselves since the Cold War.

>China could shut down NK in days but still sells NK energy and other goods

What goods? What energy? There's nothing there except materials that wouldn't be cost efficient to gather while getting bombed by the US Navy.

>two countries neutral to each other sailed in the same waters, obviously allies

You sure showed me.

>And you believe Russia, comrade?

Only our multi-billion dollar satellites say "Yes, it's fucking true you fucking idiot, we can see it"

>More than a "chance". But you do the math, oh benighted one.
>hurrdurr, look at the map, Russia and China are SOOOOOO much bigger than America, obviously more powerful

The United States spends more on its military than both of those countries combined. Every military expert in the world agrees Russia would get clobbered in a fight with the United States and China would suffer from year long bombing campaigns and would be incapable of maintaining its economy and would collapse.

>Sorry but Japan does not have a "blue-water" navy

Your link proves my point, Japan has the best Navy in Asia.

I don't read any news articles except defense and diplomatic ones. And you honestly believe a communist nation, not a free nation that's able to say what they want, is going to openly admit to what they say in the news is true? So a communist nation that is told what they can and cannot say by its government is more believable than American news? You know you need to be 18 to post here, right?

It would rain little north koreans

never gonna happen. If he tried to initiate actual nuclear war, he'd suddenly some fatal accident on behalf of an agency who's name is not included in alphabet.

conventional war is good bussines, nuclear war.. no.

>Trump refuses to pay him off like Clinton did
dude wat

>the american people are on edge, therefore the country is on edge

>You sure showed me the country is melting down.
You do not have the homogeuity of Asia, you have fierce racial and idealogical divided and party politics that is broken down beyond repair. A "swamp" that no President will ever drain, and by 2032 will see just entitlement spending equal all tax revenue, this leaves no room for military spending or spending on anything other than debt service, Social security, health care. Source: your own CBO. But you media does not touth this because people would panic. But we read and analyse and love what we see.

>"NK is China's puppet"....Since when? It was divided after World War II between the USSR and the United States and both countries have been by themselves since the Cold War.
You fail to appreciate that China still supports the NK regeime. Goods are crossing by short-trip sea ports and the highways. also China still hires cheap NK labour.

>"China could shut down NK in days but still sells NK energy and other goods"
What goods? What energy? You fail to read the Asian news? We live in the region and hear the truth from extended cadre of family and friends because we do not always trust the government either, like your does, they will also lie to their people. Ask Trump, he has said this more than once about your deceptive government/deep state. You lose this point, dotard.
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>two countries neutral to each other sailed in the same waters, obviously allies
Sorry cretin, they did not just "sail" in the same waters, they held two jopint military exercises which inlcuded live firing of larger ordnance.

>You sure showed me.
You are certainly too dotared to see the truth, so should I care to try, I reply to appeal not to your closed and small mind but to get out a balanced message that Americans and Chinese need to hear.

>"And you believe Russia, comrade?" Only our multi-billion dollar satellites say "Yes, it's fucking true you fucking idiot, we can see it"
And you believe your government, dotard? How infantile. You also believe in Santa and Easter Rabbit? How then is NK continuing to expand its missile programme, comrade? The Tooth Fairie leaves coins under Kim's pillow?
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>"More than a "chance". But you do the math, oh benighted one".
>hurrdurr, look at the map, Russia and China are SOOOOOO much bigger than America, obviously more powerful
>The United States spends more on its military than both of those countries combined. Every military expert in the world agrees Russia would get clobbered in a fight with the United States and China would suffer from year long bombing campaigns and would be incapable of maintaining its economy and would collapse.
No, benighted one. You in your abject stupidity utterly failed to properly analyse the USA/China comparative military spending correcting for American waste and bloating. An amusing but stupid error. For example: A new pistol costs hundreds of dollars from USA defense contractors, the same quality weapon cost the PRC a fraction of that; by your own government's comparisons, when corrected for value, China's military outlays come very close to that of the USA. But of course in your High Wisdom, you knew that, correct, dotard? And what about Civil Defense spending, you to the research betwween Russia's aim for limited survivability and USA's ZERO spening on protecting its people once the bombs start to fall. And China has a much greater emphasis on civil-military integration, which is nil in the USA.

>Sorry but Japan does not have a "blue-water" navy
Your link proves my point, Japan has the best Navy in Asia.
It still is not a blue-water navy. China conducted exercises in the Baltic Sea, Japan is pretty much a coastal defense force incapable of froward deployment far from home. My point proven but you overlooked in your dotard need to be correct. Failed.
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>They really should just assassinate the fucker.

this. we supposedly have thousands of black bag operatives who have been trained to kill with a banana peel. why can't any of them parachute into Pyongyang and force one of those banana peels down Lil' Kim's throat?

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>>I don't read any news articles except defense and diplomatic ones.
Well, in your failure to account for value corrections of comparative military spending your reading material or your comprehension thereof, or both, are defective. That is an sophomoric gaffee, dotard! I t is obvious that you do not you know a Defense Journal from a comic book
>>And you honestly believe a communist nation, not a free nation that's able to say what they want, is going to openly admit to what they say in the news is true? So a communist nation that is told what they can and cannot say by its government is more believable than American news?
At this point not even your President gives credibility to your news media and has called them all liars at some point: I believe his point is well taken you press is highly unreliable...according to Trump...so you miserably lose this point, dotard. Your President says so!

>You know you need to be 18 to post here, right?
Did your mother tell you that? Is she calling you now? Better listen to mommy as your data is a bit shakey...like your pathetically divided country. Good night, dotard!

>China is too much of a pussy to involve themselves.

china can't blow anyone up, because that might compromise their markets.

if they absolutely had to nuke someone, it'd be a country that doesn't buy much of their shit. like, say.. North Korea.

heh.

collect all bottle caps

>>You know you need to be 18 to post here, right?
>Did your mother tell you that? Is she calling you now? Better listen to mommy as your data is a bit shakey...like your pathetically divided country. Good night, dotard!

no, pretty sure she's right. you do need to be 18 to post here.

never mind. console yourself with the thought that beer will still be on sale when you're old enough to buy it legally.

This.

International reprocussions would be huge. And thats awfully important..

Either the rest of the world makes the smart choice and there would be no retaliation or someone, potentially china, fires back and the curtain falls on humanity.

>china can't blow anyone up, because that might compromise their markets.
The same can be said for the USA, so we have a zero sum game or does game theory tell us a different story? This is why Trump's dotarded rhetoric is amusing because he cannot carry it out without destroying the geese that lay the golden eggs. All hyperbole. BUt Kim's baiting him to bellicose rhetoric is having an effect o the alliance between the USA and Japan and USA/SK.

>if they absolutely had to nuke someone, it'd be a country that doesn't buy much of their shit. like, say.. North Korea.

Study the global balance of trade of all markets world-wide and come back to me with scenarios of what would happen if the USA market largely collapsed.

if we do it first(wont be nukes but big bombs) ww3
if north korea fires first they get wiped out and thats the end of it

If north korea got nuked, everyone would just accept that north korea got nuked. Cause any other country gets involved and tries nuking the US and the world basically ends

>never mind. console yourself with the thought that beer will still be on sale when you're old enough to buy it legally.
Sorry dotard, your pallid ignorance shows: there is no enforced drinking age in my home area. Over a decade ago they passed eighteen as the legal age, but the law was never really enforced and is largely ignored, especially in rural areas is forgotten.

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Typical murican only media they research is bullshitting murican media. Russia hates the U.S for lies and broken promises since the collapse of the USSR then put the illegal sanctions imposed on them by the U.S to try a weaken them the encroachment of Russian borders. Have you still not got a clue why the whole bullshit story of Assad was made up by the u.s media as an excuse to bomb fuck out of his country. Do you honestly not know that the U.S was fighting side by side with Isis to rid Syria of Assad because the U.S wanted to control Syria for one reason alone. So they build a gas pipeline to Europe supplying Europe it's natural gas from Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Cutting out Europe's biggest supplier Russia.

Do you actually believe yourself or are you just talking out your ass?

>Typical murican only media they research is bullshitting murican media....
I do agree that what is going on is what Americans are bent to call a "cluster-fuck". But Americans are too busy playing doting cheerleaders to their chosen cult idol rather than seeing the true and perilous picture and the chess game currently being played out. At this point the USA is playing poorly and is no closer to a resolution that was Bill Clinton.

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This is to try and weaken Russia as they've became a super power again. You see Russia isn't anything like what you're told by your media. Russia is the world's 2nd biggest oil exporter Its also one of the world's biggest gas exporters. Russia has paid off all of its national debt. The U. S debt is 20 trillion and rising. Russia has vastly modernised its military. Its vastly improving its infrastructure and its social standards. Its modernisation its going at a very fast pace. The Chinese hold the majority of the U. S debt. If the U.S stops trading with China, China pits the U.S debt for sale on the open market. That my typical uneducated fat fucking retarded murican cunt would mean the end of the U.S. Russia and China are the closest they've been for decades. Russia is helping China develop its weapons and engine tech. Chinas biggest energy suppler is Russia

In English for you who are language challenged:
America Has Never Faced a Power Like China
STATUS QUO VS. A NEW ORDER--In HuffPo
America wants to preserve the status quo in which its leading position remains the keystone of the regional order, and the Chinese acceptance of U.S. leadership is the basis of U.S.-China relationship. While it is willing to consult more closely with China on a wide range of issues as China’s power grows, it does not envisage any fundamental change in the nature of their relationship, or of China’s role in Asia, over the coming years.China, on the other hand, wants to change the status quo. President Xi Jinping has made this quite clear in his repeated calls for a “new type of major-power relationship.” By this, he does not just mean that he hopes the U.S. and China can avoid the rivalry that throughout history has so often escalated between rising and established powers. He also means that to avoid escalating rivalry, America and China should agree on a new basis for their relationship, different from the basis that was agreed between Chairman Mao Zedong and former U.S. President Richard Nixon back in 1972. Clearly, China does not believe that Chinese deference to the U.S. leadership is any longer an acceptable basis for U.S.-China relations.

Yes, China wants to swing the largest penis in Asia and is slowly realising their goal one small geo-area at a time:
"Elites in Central Asian states want what China is offering meaning public pushback isn’t a deal-breaker, though it may be a seething irritant. As one Chinese scholar explained it, “most of the people in Central Asia who have strong negative sentiments against China are not powerful, while those who have power want to work with China.”

And:
Russia is by far the richest country in the world in natural resources, priced $75 trillion, much higher than the second place US with $45 trillion.

>Do you actually believe yourself or are you just talking out your ass?
Did you read the article? MANY such articles about in both Asian and Western media and in military and CIA analyses. So, you lose dotard. Your anus seems not the best place from which to pull your global info.

The US hasn't ever actually won a war...so what is this thinking? I'm actually serious.

Name a single war the US has ever won. Russia won WWII and the US strolled in after the fact and claimed they did, but since conquering the Philippines they've done nothing. Not a country.

Russia is richest in natural resources that you can't eat

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ooooh chiming in with that edgy undergrad history class lecture everyone gets by the 2nd year of JC

>already in SK and Japan there are loud factions who are questioning having USA military bases in their countries.

"already?" They have protested this for 50 years. Way to keep up Mr World Expert