Are historical epics possible in 2016

Are movies like this possible anymore

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No.

t. social justice

Not unless Batman is in it

No. Epics aren't possible altogether.

The modern generation thinks Lawrence of Arabia is boring, there's no hope left.

Nope, why take a risk when you can crank out low budget horror and capeshit trash for the masses?

No.

Social Justice and quipzzzzz trump everything else now.

sure, but it's all fake history. if a napoleon movie was made today, half his generals would be black.

No, studios are afraid of putting money into these films. They require significant investment, and aren't as formulaic and therefore more difficult to write scripts and direct for. Critics and plebs also don't appreciate historical epics for what they are, and instead want shoehorned character drama, development, and possible romance subplots.

Also not to meme, but SJWs. Historical epics are grey, often revolving around masculinity in war and racial stuff (seriously pre WWI go look at rhetoric by military and political leaders, even between Europeans it was nuts). But contemporary critics and audiences don't like that and don't understand it.

Are there any good films about based napoleon?

How was Ben-hur? Did anyone watch it?

No

PC Culture would require blackwashing and the like, and modern audiences have the ADD real bad

Lawrence of Arabia is boring though, and I love old epics

napoleon was only really based in the fact that he was so super insane and just did not give a fuck.

destroying the holy roman empire was dumb, but invading russia was retarded. he should have been happy with italy. he could have ended the pope rule.

Every historical epic in the last 15 years got obliterated both commercially and critically. Contrary to Sup Forums's boogeymen and mindless parroting, it's simply because it's not a sustainable genre.

They're all good, cause they all end the same.

Well Nolan is working on one..

Not really about Napolean personally but you get what I mean, plus its premium comfy

Waterloo is the best one

Literally wrong. Master and Commander was considered one of the best films in it's year, the sole reason it didn't sweep the awards is because the idiot studio released it against LOTR ROTK. It still managed to win a number of awards.

The only other """historical"""" films have been action garbage masquerading as history. Ironclad, 300, and other trash.

No. The audience for them is not big enough considering the budget that would be involved. It would never turn a profit and the current strategy of producers and studios (capitalize on a tentpole movie that panders to everyone and make everything else smaller rather than steadily release thing with moderate budget in hope some succeses will keep a good balance) does not allow to make a movie at a loss.

No, they need to be complete bastardizations full of crazy bullshit like 300 or they need to be social justice circlejerking.

>yfw there will never be a movie about the Poles lifting the siege of Vienna

It seems unlikely. Most of history is dominated by white men. And that is not politically correct. Studios won't fund it.

Your best chance is an Asian production.

>muh dead white men
>muh colonialism
>muh PoC

nah

>napoléon
>insane
really wondering who could be behind this post right now

The French made a miniseries about Napoleon in 2002. It's okay.

>mfw chinese "action scenes"

with him going to live on a tropical island?

This.

Outside of telling different historical events (which to internet dorks just means battles in different uniforms) there is not enough variety to these stories to warrant the enormous budgets they need. The "epic" seems more limiting than anything as a genre. Action, comedy, westerns, noir, musicals, horror films et al evolved and grew over the last century. Epics are the same shit in a new decade

The eternal ANGLO

I reckon Chris Nolan or Cuckantino or Ridley Scott etc would have enough power and economic viability to make them

him being beaten and sent to St Helena, yes.

Gonna check these out. Not even French but I find Napoleon to be one of the most interesting people in History.

a Russo-Japanese war movie could solve this issue since it's about Russians getting their asses kicked by Japs, but given the misadventures of the Russian fleet I worry it would be received as more of a comedy.

Hero was pretty based.

>destroying the holy roman empire was dumb
It must be a kraut.

Not SJWs fault, but it is millennials fault. They have no interest in history or long movies.

They fail massively at the box office, studios would make them if the masses accepted it. There's no political conspiracy.

Are you a Jonah user?

Little fun fact about Waterloo is it was made by the soviets and they used the red army as extras for the French Troops

fuck the brits for paying other kingdoms to fight for them

Stay mad frog

Fear not, based Mel will make a comeback.

>Nolan
Depending on how well his Dunkirk goes, it could be a possibility.
>RIdley Scott
Doesn't seem to be his usual shtick but that could work
>Question Tarentula
please no
The 8full 8 was already shit, and was proof enough that he has ran out of ideas.
They can make some great movies, that's for sure. Taiwan too
Their TV production though...
Gotta like frenentic zooms, quick cuts and "woosh" sounds

Reminder that Napoleon was the goodest of Goys

He:

>Abolished land laws that prevented Jews from living in certain places or owning property in France and all the territories he conquered
>Abolished the ghetto system in Poland
>Abolished restrictions on Jewish merchants in the Continental System
>Wanted to reestablish a homeland for Jews in Israel

>Make a religious porn movie that only rednecks and white trash like
>Get drunk and when a cop pulls you over you express your love for sand niggers
>Beg your Jewish overlords for forgiveness and apologize multiple times, but they show no mercy and kill your career
>Become an even bigger alcoholic in your depression
>Your wife cucks you for a nigger
>You get caught on tape crying about how upset you are that your wife is cucking you for a nigger
>Now trying to appease his masters by making an anti-war movie glamorizing a soldier who refused to kill the enemy, starring a Jewish actor

Is there a bigger cuck in Hollywood than Mel Gibson?

>destroying the holy roman empire was dumb
No it was based
t./his/

He was the greatest Man that ever lived.

>Ridley Scott
>doesn't seem to be his usually shtick
Is this a joke? He's made more historical films than he has sci-fi, by numbers he should be known for them more than anything

>t. mad german
>or mad turk
>probably both

Just imagine what people could in 1967:
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DELET THIS

I don't think it's the millennials' fault either. I think that history and philosophy are acquired tastes and only a select ppl like them.

t.evil germ*n

>We declared war on the whole world and lost. This is obviously the jewish people's fault.

Pretty sad

>Suddenly, hyper-marketed remake of Zulu
>every british soldier is shown torturing black children
>all of them are rich, horrible people, beat their wives, own slaves but are still soldiers for some reason
>the zulus are a peaceful people and did nothing when the white man took their land
>half of the movie is them being noble savages trying to negociate with the brits in a perfect, fluent english while the imperial negociators speak like a bunch of chavs
>the brits attack first and the zulus only defend
>all get killed shile sayign "hands up don't shoot"
>directed by Spike Lee
>starring Idris Elba
>99% certified fresh
>becomes mandatory viewing in elementary school

He's a brainwashed stormblubber. He has a lazy reason why literally everything ever was their fault, except the good stuff lawlz.

With the Rothschild winning?

Simple, we just meme history, that will get all the millennials into thinking history is cool to like.

>holy
>roman
>empire

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It's your own fault for glamorizing STEM that much and putting a social stigma on history and philosophy majors being McDonald's degrees.
Science is now kewl while that stuff is legit useless nerd crap in the eyes of normies.

No, because most young people (the audience the studio caters to) expect historical epics to have a lot of action in it because of recent movies like 300

Its the studio's fault. They never know how to handle it, so they usually go with generic leather jackets add some fantasy bullshit, maybe a stronk female and explosions. And usually don't get enough money to properly execute a period piece.

The last few historical epics I can think of are Alexander, which was boring as balls and I actually like Alexander the historical figure, Kingdom of Heaven, which isn't all that accurate but good enough for historical fiction, it had a shit theatrical cut though, and Gladiator which was barely historical but had but was close enough for normies and was pretty successful.

What historical events/people would you like to see a movie about, Sup Forums?

>tfw there will never be a movie about the fall of Constantinople that isn't
Turkish propaganda

It was beyond good. It isn't remake of 58's version and both have misconceptions with book. Watch it, dude. Mesalla was more humanazed in New one.

That's literally the Sup Forums excuse for everything

I don't understand this movie. Why do you guys like it so much?

This is why China can also make decent period pieces, they have a shit ton of soldiers with nothing better to do, and a state run movie industry.

Didn't the Nazi make a film about Fredrick the Great using real soldiers?

Why would you want to watch a movie guaranteed to bum you out for the rest of the day?

The battle of Gergovie
>there would need to be a sequel about Alesia
>this triggers my inner frog

Battle of Lepanto, late XVI century technology ON BOATS with giant cannons, knights in full armors, guns, and of course Christians killing the shit out of ottoman shits.
Too bad there were no anglos so no one will ever think about making it.

The mongol scouting raid into Europe led by Subotai.

Im still waiting for this viking film by mel gibson

The Battle of Lepanto wasn't even a christian victory, it was just a mess and the Turks decided to retreat.

this would actually be a good movie. it is one of the most overlooked historical happenings. I am fairly certain my polish ancestors were mongol rape babies, I have some mongol features.

t.roach

Scorseses Silence

>I have some mongol features
Down Syndrom doesn't mean you have mongol ancestry, user.

I want 2017 good movie adaptations of the Illiad and Odyssey.

faggot the action takes place in 30 years

Joowz fag get out

Can't make history movies because "critics" will shit on you for not inserting anachronistic Mary Sues. It's simply not what's "in" to portray History. And if it ever does get portrayed, it becomes filtered to fit modern politically correct standards so much that it's more of a fantasy than history film.

We live in too shitty times for the genre to be done properly. Not to mention that the grand scope of events would often get marginalized through an overuse of computer graphics making it look like videogames.

>137 ships captured out of 250, another 50 sunk
>20.000 turks dead or captured to fuel european ships
>12.000 christian prisoners freed from the turkish ships
>Seas free from scared muslims for 50 years who had ships no sailors

Yeah, 20k mongols fucking shit up and just moving on could be cool. They left some countries almost in complete ruin, and still the event gets barely a few lines in their own written history.

300 has forever ruined movies based on greek myshology and history because everybody will expect to see some ebin shirtless screaming spartans.
Thanks, Snyder.

Troy was horrible and a flop, Hollywood will never touch Greek epics again.

It was a victory, just not an easy one

It'd be a good movie material. The 300 Rise of An Empire Battle of Salamis is thus far the only modern movie we have on how hilarious naval warfare pre-mass cannons was.

Can this be the cool historic art thread? The one on Sup Forums got deleted.

A good one is archived there I think.

>how hilarious
This is a model of a Venetian Galeazza.
There were 6 of these things at Lepanto, and Ottomans just couldn't do shit to them because they were too tall and their cannons too big.
The Holy Alliance tactics was to have these things bait the Ottomans and destroy as much of them as they could.

Shit, got the link or thread title so I can find it?

>Your wife cucks you for a nigger
>You get caught on tape crying about how upset you are that your wife is cucking you for a nigger
did any of that happen? I know he said she deserved to be raped by niggers which is obviously not the same

nevermind, was mistaken here. Sorry, mate.

It's fine. They pop up pretty often anyways.

Fugg I would LOVE to see that! Charge of the Rohirrim but even greater.

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Only if Mel Gibson decides to direct a movie about Napoleon.
But that's improbable since it would have the English winning at the end.

300 was the most faithful comic book adaptation, if anything blame Miller since the film is almost carbon copy of the comic.

Besides, you have to be dumb to not see is a propaganda story told from the spartan view.

>tfw we will never have Sean Bean return as Odysseus for an Odyssey film

THIRTY YEARS WAR WHEN