How do you stop obesity?

How do you stop obesity?

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Telling fat people they're gross.

This.

Peer pressure works.

The media normalizes this degeneracy

Spread healthy diet habits in schools early on.

By harassing fatties
>muh fat shaming

Fire them from any job they might have and don't give them any food stamps until they reach

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Communism
Everyone will be starving :^)

That's certainly one approach xD

>stop making junk food easy to obtain
>subsidize produce and not corn that most junk food relies on through fructose or corn entirely
>encourage exercise/teamwork in outside work/activity
>shame fat people/show them the light
that's really it, lethargy is a product of the world we created, no one really notices the root until the plant starts fucking up everywhere

Fix the shitty food sources that people get fat from and kill anyone who tweets #HealthyatallSizes

>subsidizing anything

McFucking kill yourself.

Agree on the fat shaming. Agree on the exercise. Disagree on the junk food.

Junk food is delicious and disgusting at the same time. Maybe once a month is acceptable to eat it.

>End corn subsidies
>More education on diet/nutrition K-12
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Encourage stimulant usage. Smokers>fatties and are proof shaming works.

What's wrong with subsidies

Give some of your food to places that have literally none

Instead of dying of diabetes and heart failure, they can die of lung cancer and heart failure

Stop eating so much

Famine

And you'll have one less sap congesting pensions until fatties who swirl down the drain slowly. Also let current year, mouth fedoras are a benign surrogate product.

Stop using BMI. It's a shit metric and it needs to die.

Get people to count their calories. It has literally never been easier to do it. I lost >75 lbs using myfitnesspal with almost no exercise and no fasting.

Convince the average person that DNA does not trump physics.
YOU DON'T HAVE A SHIT METABOLISM, YOU JUST EAT TOO MUCH
CONSERVATION OF MASS YOU LARDASS

Well okay. Instead of eating a plate of nutritious vegetables and fruits, fat jimmy can eat a fourth the size and just eat cake and ice cream.

Save the Shamrock Shakes and nuke McDonald's.

Its using tax dollars to make unprofitable things profitable. Its fucking retarded and unsustainable.

Look at it another way. The government steals your money, then gives it to multimillionaire farmers so they can "recoup costs".

That's blatant theft and redistribution of wealth.

Now imagine the same thing happening the other way around. If you stole money from the rich and gave to the poor. That's also theft. That's socialism.

Also opens up all kinds of fraud opportunities, but this is a minor point compared to it being immoral and vile.

I could start by stopping myself from eating the rest of this delicious keilbasa 'n' kraut I'm diggin into right now.

I'm not going to, though. I need something to soak up all the alcohol I drank today.

So what sorts of things do you think tax dollars should be used on?

Use the obese as fuel to power the machine / movement and watch as Donald Makes America Great Again.

America should go communist so we could have a food shortage instead! That'll cure obesity!

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The free market will fix it.
*Tips Fedora*

It kinda pisses me off that things like wheat are subsidized when they are major allergens.

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Make ebt more like wic. Only can by whole foods.

Don't give them handicap parking.

Get a fishing pool with a donut on it and have fattie run a bit.

Thanks for giving me an example of a BAD subsidy.

Healthcare for problems related to obesity isn't paid by the state anymore. Just have them pay for it out of their own wallets. In fact healthcare should only really be universal for medical conditions or injuries not brought about by the victims negligence.

>Everyone
Maybe if you ignore the party's central commitee and friends :^)

>Junk food is delicious and disgusting at the same time. Maybe once a month is acceptable to eat it.
subsidies are pretty smart for produce considering that it'll make them even cheaper than they need to be so more incentive to buy them to eat, most complaints with people is that produce isn't cheap enough.

also junk food is acceptable none of the time, there's a reason it's called 'junk' you dummy

Eat less. Exercise more.

As a fat person, I don't think society owes us anything in terms of stopping obesity. If they wanted to help though, you can choose to move media emphasis from being "body positive" and "fat acceptance" to trying to encourage fat people to make the change themselves. Most fat people who know they shouldnt be fat dont have the courage to go to the gym or work out, because they fear everybody in the room is going to judge them. If we instilled them with backbones, we could have a relatively healthier community.

It's a tough mental block to get past when you weigh 300+ lbs

National defense. Infrastructure (roads, communications etc). Police.

Not for making fake markets. In America, your soil sucks, which is why you import a lot of food. Giving money to people so they can afford to get abysmal crop yields doesn't make more food appear. It just helps drain the aquifers and sends you toward another Great Depression.

Subsidies do the same shit no matter the feild.

The water crisis in California is due to water subsidies distorting market forces

Food aid to Africa destroys local food production and is a yuge reason that Africa is endlessly starving.

Tax it. Being obese is a priviledge (you have to eat and you eat a lot more than you need)

They're given handicap parking??????
Holy dickballs America, get your shit together

Front butt

work camps

Free meth

The EU is claiming it as a disability.

Well if he doesn't eat too much, it solves obesity.

They even get to ride those scooters. Its ridiculous.

>California is due to water subsidies
fucking wrong california is just stupid with management

I've just come back from Europe... fuck all fatties there.

eat less

Obesity is the cost of freedom.

All you can do is tell people how unhealthy it is and hope they make the right decision themselves.

as someone who works in medical field, my blood is boiling

fat people are like smokers, you can't just tell them what they're doing are bad. they'll just double down

Seriously they earned the Muslims on their lawn. Best case they get too fat to snack bar and fix itself.

That might be the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. It's up there with 2 girls and a cup

Err. The soil is great in the US. We are the breadbasket to the world. When we started diverting corn for ethanol production that drove up global corn prices so much that riots in Mexico started due to expensive tortillias.

We pay farmers NOT to plant and keep a floor under crop prices.

Labor is expensive which is why we allow illegals to pick crops (mostly fruits and vegetables). We import a lot of fruits etc because the supermarkets are always stocked with all manner of produce even if it is not in season anywhere in the US.

Well quite. That was kind of what I was getting at.

The difference I suppose is that smokers pay taxes on their habit.

So is there maybe some way to tax it? That seems like a very British approach to the problem.

>If you stole money from the rich and gave to the poor. You're a thief.

/pol is dumb enough to believe this

there are some genetic factors and maybe bacterial flora, but nothing beats first law of thermodynamics

You just let it happen.

A lot of women get paid money for getting fat anyways. Not much can really stop that consumer demand.

Not help them.

Oy veyyyyy hippie this is how the founding fathers envisioned it

I have such a mixed relationship with this.

My weight has fluctuated between 230 and 240 pounds for the past 6 months. I used to be 285lbs or more 5 years back and even had to wear 44 inch waist pants when I was in high school. I have struggled with my weight for so long I never have known what being skinny or physically fit feels like.

My family has a history of being overweight, having high blood pressure, diabetes...the works. I have been dealt some of the shittiest genetics. My mother was forced to go on medications at 30, give up alcohol and caffeine at 45, and go vegan at 50. She always did everything in moderation and worked out a few times a week. She was not an overly active person by any means, but she wasn't a landwhale and she wasn't disgusting. She's actually quite small in statue, just has a lot of shitty healthy issues.

And now I see all of this happening to me. I did a tremendous job losing weight a few years back, but I hit a plateau and then life got tough. I was hitting the gym and eating right for a solid year after losing 50lbs and barely saw any new changes. An hour a day of cardio and lifting, meals made up of everything you're supposed to eat (oatmeal, greens, nuts, lean protein). If I ate shitty, it was minimal. If I drank, it was only one or two nights a week. And I never smoked. I even cut back on caffeine to pretty much a cup of tea a day. And I still was fat. And I still had high BP. And I still didn't see any results. Even cutting calories doesn't drop my weight anymore.

I'm not making an excuses but BMR is real and I feel like I'm living proof of it. Shit, I ate homemade veg/low-protein smoothies for 3 out of my last 6 meals, went running in 80 degree weather, played some team sports, and only shed a pound this weekend. Granted one night this weekend I ate shit and drank at a cookout, but there's no way that would counteract everything else. But it did, against all logic. Sometimes a person's body just wants to be fat.

Just put down the fork. Why is that so hard? You can drive a car but you can't put down a fork? I don't get it.

Poor management due to subsidies killing the price system the greatest conveyor of information humanity has ever devised.

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dude, what about smoking and alcohol and lack of physical activity? Those are all your (bad) choices. Also, there are lots of etiological factors for the same diseases/conditions, you can't just generalize it (unfortunately)

eat fucking vegetables and go outside

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300+lbs shouldn't exercise in the beginning, they should prolong the "night fasting" and eat during the day just enough food not to get sick

this could help. these are just the notes but the full text is good too.
lowerthought.wordpress.com/complete-notes-to-good-calories-bad-calories/

Lock every fatty in an airconditioned room with 3 of these, 10g vitamin C and 5 gallons of water every day until they're a healthy weight again.

>tfw just got finished with a week on these
>7 kg/15 lbs down in 7 days
>zero exercise whatsoever

>night fasting

fatties eat even when they're asleep?

More physical education in school, altering our subsidies, removing GMO patents/banning certain GMO's, supporting organics and small time farmers. Basically make it so that will mean more people will have to work harder for less food. That would make our country better in so many ways. It would make cheap shit not cheap anymore. One if the reasons society is dying is because there are too many useless people too, going back to an agrarian culture would be ideal. People would have gainful employment. People would be less obese. People would be focused on their work instead of inane cultural marxist bullshit.

Food is drugs to them. It is to everyone but the overeaters moreso. I'm not trying to be a fat apologist but it is so.

Is it safe to lose weight that quickly?

If BMR is real than you understand that you're blowing smoke up your own anus.

Base Metabolic Rate refers to the amount of calories necessary for you to stay the same size you are if you do literally nothing all day.

Eat below this while doing something (anything) and you will get smaller.

You cannot say that your genes defy the first law of thermodynamics - matter cannot be created or destroyed. If you stopped seeing results, you stopped working hard enough to see results and became complacent.

I'm sorry if that's harsh but I've seen so many people throw in the towel with this excuse and it's bullshit. You reached the limit of your will, that's fine. Your body doesn't want to be fat - you do. Or at least, you wanted to be fat more than you wanted to put in the further necessary work to not be such.

fatshaming, etc.

no in fact

No. Need to be very, very careful or you go blind, get a skin-destroying rash, incurably overheat and die etc.

No long term damage if you survive it though.

Thanks, user. None of my friends push me like this.

I understand thermodynamics too, man. I absolutely do not eat up to BMR and absolutely understand how it works. I was really good a couple years ago and know all of ths shit I'm supposed to do -- I lurked /fit/ for a very long time.

Still, thanks.

Thanks

everyone fasts at night, but as i said, they should PROLONG it

what about night fasting for months, until your breath starts smelling like acetone? You're not the exception when it comes to energy conserving and metabolism. Also, have you worked up on boosting testosterone? It will help you big time

Socialism.

Don't blame me for being a lazy cunt.

Blame cows for being so damn tasty!

But on the bright side, it does reset the body's weight setpoint, which means the weight you lose on it tends to stay off unless you really make an effort to get fat again.

Last time I used it, went from 100kg to 90kg in a week, and ended up with an extremely painful rash that forced me to stop, from using too much.

That was 3 months ago, I still eat like a fat bastard but only gained up to 91kg. Finished 2 days ago, weighed myself at 84kg this morning. Probably still got a bit more water weight that will come off over the next day or two.

I feel ya bro, we've all stumbled.

I would honestly suggest trying to find that one gym buddy who goes insane at the gym. Another way to do this is to enroll someplace with an instructor that will push you harder than you push yourself - eg, martial arts instructor (amazing for overall confidence as well), a personal trainer, or some other class. Fuck crossfit.

Good luck brutha

>So is there maybe some way to tax it?
taxing junk food and subsidizing produce or healthy food is most likely the most viable solution

but good luck getting through
>mcdonalds
>pepsico
>coco cola
>burger king
>kraft
>taco bell
>subway
>every fucking fast food and junk food company

actually just outlawing high fructose corn syrup and getting rid of the corn subsidy might just be the end to the "epidemic"

So how does it work? You don't eat at all and drink nothing but water and take those tablets?

m-mommy!

We should start making restraunt servings smaller.
>Order a burger I ordered before, know it's the size of my fucking plate
>Waitress asks for sides
>Say I don't want sides since the burger will be more than enough
>Are you sure? I mean you get two free sides, they're going to waist
>Try to make it clear I do not want fucking sides but she keeps pushing it
>Bro I'm with has to say he'll take the two servings of french fries while I eat the plate sized burger
More food =/= better deal, it = more obesity.

Corn is shit anyway. Why don't you grow sugar cane?

Stop brainwashing children. They grow up on bad habits induced by relentless marketing and pandering to them, and become life long consumers of the unhealthy. There was at some point a motion to ban targeted ads for children, but obviously the cronies in Washington were paid off by big food to slide it.

As for current fatties, we need to stop allowing HAES and fat acceptance movements. I say our healthcare dollars that they're going to absorb should at least be spent on juicers and they should be forced on a juicing diet under the supervision of a medical doctor and dietician. The shit works.

>body weight setpoint
no such thing exists, broscience/10

also what the fuck is wrong with this captcha, i hate this fucking site

Eat nothing but fish and vitamin C tablets, avoid all sugar and carbs, and take them, yep. Do absolutely no exercise, even if you were capable it's counterproductive while on it. Just sit back and sweat the weight off.

Your water retention gets crazy while you're on it, so your weight actually goes up until a couple of days after you stop taking it, until you piss all the excess water out.

it doesn't work. it's a gimmick. don't be seduced.

I always skip the "once there are none left" ones. They never fucking work.

Lol DNP.