Post controversial opinions you hold that you are willing to argue

Post controversial opinions you hold that you are willing to argue.

1. I don't agree with the fact that all votes are equal. People with higher IQ should have greater voting power. Every SD above the mean should double your voting power, while every SD below should cut it in half. Women should have 4/5 the voting power of their male counterparts in their given IQ bracket.

2. People with IQs lower than 1 SD below the mean should be sterilized to prevent the polluting of a nation's collective gene pool.

3. All nations should have mandatory conscription of 2 years straight out of high school.

4. Immigrants should only be able to vote after living in a country for more than 5 years and after having serviced their mandatory conscription.

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How about 15 years and no voting...

>thinks iq is the most important characteristic
>chink / jew confirmed

I get what you're saying with #1, but could you imagine if a certain group got power over IQ tests, and thus who got to vote?
>Yes goy, step right in here, this should only take a little while - you said you were voting Trump? Oh no worries, goy- I mean guy.

> People with IQs lower than 1 SD below the mean should be sterilized to prevent the polluting of a nation's collective gene pool.

Intelligence is not genetic.

"Educated" people generally do not care about culture

Israel is based

The Earth is flat

Saudi family members did 9/11.

you should only be able to vote if you own a certain amount of property.

also employers should be able to discriminate based on IQ.

modern medicine is mostly a fucking hoax.

charlie sheen is a good role model.

Winning

I am a very moral man and I wish no harm upon anyone, especially a delicate and beautiful creature such as a woman, but when I see Taylor Swift in those little outfits I want to rip her out of it and choke her with it

The age limit for voting should be at least 23

>you should only be able to vote if you own a certain amount of property.

This is an extremely stupid idea and even by just suggesting it you show that you have no fucking clue about anything

Controversial *here* or controversial IRL?

I think girls wearing slutty clothes is a good thing, ESPECIALLY when they're i, their teens (Not pedophillic, it's self-expression)

Literally everyone over 18 should own a gun and be able to conceal carry without a permit, excluding convicted felons

Atheism should be illegal since it's literally not a religion, and isn't covered by the 1st Amendment

People throw around unconstitutional way too much (not really a controversial opinion but I'll still argue it)

Judging an entire race on one person is wrong. Judging an entire race based on statistics is okay though.

gud goy use this wisely

Which point are you referring to? If the 4th one, then I think 5 years is sufficient for an immigrant to assimilate into their new culture.

>low iq poster confirmed
What trait is more important in modern society than the ability to learn, problem solve, process information, etc?

5. Gas the kikes

>Intelligence is not genetic.
Not completely, but a significant portion of it is (more than 75% by most studies). And if one's parents have high IQs they are more likely to be raised in an environment that fosters the development of higher IQ.

Israel has done well for itself.

>The Earth is flat
Explain the horizon, gravity, the existence of time zones, and the fact that a plane flying in one direction will eventually end back at it's starting
point.

This is true and not very controversial

I think as long as you pay taxes you should have the right to vote, regardless of whether or not you actually own property.

>modern medicine is mostly a fucking hoax.
I do believe some modern medicine is a hoax, such as ADHD.

>charlie sheen is a good role model.
>promiscuous, drug addict
>good role model
Nope

Same

Why 23?

Either

>Atheism should be illegal since it's literally not a religion, and isn't covered by the 1st Amendment

1st commandment. Thou shalt not kill, Christianity should be illegal in order for your amendment to bare arms to actually be effective.

>Men should be allowed to beat women
>women should not get alimony and only get 20% of men's money after divorce

>I think girls wearing slutty clothes is a good thing, ESPECIALLY when they're i, their teens
I think people should be able to wear whatever they want.

>(Not pedophillic, it's self-expression)
You're definitely a pedophile though,

>Literally everyone over 18 should own a gun and be able to conceal carry without a permit, excluding convicted felons
I agree.

>Atheism should be illegal since it's literally not a religion, and isn't covered by the 1st Amendment
This is incredibly stupid.

>People throw around unconstitutional way too much (not really a controversial opinion but I'll still argue it)
True.

>Judging an entire race on one person is wrong. Judging an entire race based on statistics is okay though.
Also true.

>>atheism is illegal
>>loves sluts

you're not a very good christian

>Men should be allowed to beat women
>India

>women should not get alimony and only get 20% of men's money after divorce
Somewhat agree.

But indian women are mustachios

Holier-than-thou bullshit is the worst
Judge me as a person, not as a christian you fucking degenerate

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1. Most people are fundamentally stupid, and like to think they're good people but are actually intensely selfish.

2. Sup Forums is mostly bullshit. Fun bullshit, but bullshit nonetheless.

3. the United States should fall.

4. Hate speech is still free speech. Voltaire etc etc

5. Nuclear armament is the right of every sovereign state

6. Climate change is real, but presents an opportunity not a threat.

7. Pave the planet (sic)

8. I really don't care about your feelings.

9. Direct democracy with an educated populace is the best form of government in the modern era

It was a typo. Americans should have the right to bear arms. Claws and all.

About voting rights: that women shouldn't be allowed to vote, that the age should be raised to 21 again, and that you have to pass a comprehensive civics course in the 4 months leading up to a presidential election which is stamped on your drivers license, good for 4 years.

1. Partially agree. Simple threshold would be to have the ballets blank. If you don't know who you are voting for then you don't get to vote.

2. Agree. Also include felons.

3. partially agree. After college would also be fine. We need officers too. For those physically unfit a civil service for equal time.

4. don't allow first generation to vote at all.

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5. All political posts have a 2 term limit. If it is good enough for the president then it is good enough for the rest.

6. No voting for those under 21.

7. If you went to prison. After you served your time you still do crime it is death this time. We as a nation should not have to keep paying to house and feed you.

8. Unemployment insurance should be 1 check just like any other insurance policy.

>What trait is more important in modern society than the ability to learn, problem solve, process information, etc?

The will to actually sit your ass down and do something with it.
The amount of "my IQ is near genius" basement dwelling neets and couch surfers is tragic, and those fuckwits do not deserve to vote more than a 110 IQ businessman who actually made something of himself.

Here's one I think a lot of Sup Forums will disagree with me on.

There is literally nothing wrong with gay people.

(The ones that don't act like glitterfags).

Calling someone else degenerate when you enjoy little girls in slutty clothing. Okay.

>1. Most people are fundamentally stupid, and like to think they're good people but are actually intensely selfish.
George Carlin once said "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

>2. Sup Forums is mostly bullshit. Fun bullshit, but bullshit nonetheless.
There is a lot of bullshit but I do find truth in a lot of what is poster here.

>3. the United States should fall.
If the United States falls we are all doomed.

>4. Hate speech is still free speech. Voltaire etc etc
There is no such thing as "Hate Speech".

>5. Nuclear armament is the right of every sovereign state

>6. Climate change is real, but presents an opportunity not a threat.
Explain further.

>7. Pave the planet (sic)
What?

>8. I really don't care about your feelings.
Feelings are important but not important enough to hinder free speech or scientific progress

>9. Direct democracy with an educated populace is the best form of government in the modern era
Agreed.

Replies btw
1. IQs aren't terribly useful IRL. We give everyone equal votes so it's not the state picking and choosing who has more say. Safer and long-term fairer.

2. See (1). Sterilizing people is never a good idea. Too easy to abuse.

3. Somewhat agree on this

4. Agree on principle, might quibble on specific details but yeah sounds good.

you do realize that sterilizing people with iq < u-1SD would mean sterilizing ~17% of the population. and then after they're gone, another ~17%.....

Bare arms is better means loads of em
Yeah my bad.

Concealed Handgun Permits are Unconstitutional.

People who pay a tax to the government for the privilege to bear arms should be executed as traitors...

1. 95% of humans should be exterminated

Selecting voters is a failed idea at all aspects. Even if you actually have something accurate to set people apart (which IQ is not), it's still a door nobody should ever open. It will eventually lead to a sanctioned oligarchy.

Unless you're actually into dictatorships.

. the United States should fall.
>If the United States falls we are all doomed.
Possibly. Especially you Canadians, sorry. Chaos is good for humanity as a whole though, in a historical sense.

. Hate speech is still free speech. Voltaire etc etc
>There is no such thing as "Hate Speech".
Agreed. I should have used scare quotes myself.

. Climate change is real, but presents an opportunity not a threat.
>Explain further.
Climate change will open up new swarths of fresh farmland, change coastal lines and open up new real estate opportunities. Redefine national boundaries and shake things up in geopolitics (long term that's a good thing for human social and technological development). etc etc

. Pave the planet (sic)
>What?
A play on "save the planet" - See (6).
I'm an anti-environmentalist. Bulldoze in favour of human occupation, replace natural processes with artificial ones etc. I'd rather industrial air processing plants powered by nuclear plants than a forest for example. Aesthetic reasons are ok though. Humans get to pick what they'll preserve if its because we like the look of it.

>I don't agree with the fact
Why do you disagree with a fact

1. God is not Jesus, but a being infinitely greater. They are not one in the same. The son is subordinate to the father.

2. Trump is the second coming

>1. God is not Jesus, but a being infinitely greater.
I don't think you know what Infinite means. Though when talking about hypothetical entities I suppose it kinda works.

2. I don't wanna know about Trump cumming.

So? Why let stupid people breed? Look at Africa, they need to be watered and fed by high IQ people to live and they pop out 8 babies a woman. If we make it to the 22nd century science will overtake irrational thoughts of empathy in order for the human race and the earth itself to survive.

I used to be fringe but the first idea is becoming more popular by the day:

1. Women shouldn't vote. They have not evolved to have the same ability of objective judgement as opposed to men, who've been in charge of such matters.

2. Allowing divorce (and remarrying) was very damaging to the families. Give marriage benefits only to long lasting relationships.

3. This is hunch but maybe if we made pension reliant on the income of your offspring we'd fix almost all or some of the problems associated with an aging population, immigration, economy and a dying culture.

You faggot, that might sound good but it will eventually make he black and hispanic communities far supperior to what they are today.

The bottom line is I am past race realism, they are not just less than us they are malevolent towards us. If we make their populations evolve then you will have a potent new enemy.

Just sterilize all of them. We need a nigger only genophage.

Missed one

>5. Nuclear armament is the right of every sovereign state
I disagree. There are many nations I would not trust with nukes.

>About voting rights:
>that women shouldn't be allowed to vote,
Anyone who pays taxes should have the right to vote.

>that the age should be raised to 21 again
Why 21?

>you have to pass a comprehensive civics course in the 4 months leading up to a presidential election which is stamped on your drivers license, good for 4 years
This is a good idea.

>4. don't allow first generation to vote at all.
Anyone who pays taxes should have the right to vote.

>5. All political posts have a 2 term limit. If it is good enough for the president then it is good enough for the rest.
I understand the logic in this.

>6. No voting for those under 21.
Partially agree. This should be wavered for those who have served in the military though.

>7. If you went to prison. After you served your time you still do crime it is death this time. We as a nation should not have to keep paying to house and feed you.
This is a horrible idea. I think it depends on the severity of the crime.

>8. Unemployment insurance should be 1 check just like any other insurance policy.
Agreed.

I agree

Didn't really think about it too far but yeah you're right. 1 SD is too strict but the idea still stands. Super low IQ = Sterilization.

>thinks he has controversial opinions
>still believes in any form of Democracy at all

leave any trace of that civilisational cancer and it will grow and consume everything else.

Including you correct? Filthy hippie

No, I'm one of the good ones who dindu nuffin.

Every state should practice the death penalty, and it should be administered as public execution by firing squad.

You first

>So? Why let stupid people breed?
The idea is that population growth won't be able to keep up with the rate of sterilization.

>1. Women shouldn't vote.
Anyone who pays taxes should be able to vote. Their vote, however, should not be equal to a man's.

>2. Allowing divorce (and remarrying) was very damaging to the families.
I agree but sometimes you end up marrying a really shitty person and need out.

>Give marriage benefits only to long lasting relationships.
So increase in benefits the longer the relationship lasts? That's a good idea.

>3. This is hunch but maybe if we made pension reliant on the income of your offspring we'd fix almost all or some of the problems associated with an aging population, immigration, economy and a dying culture.
How so?

I don't even know where to start with this post.

>Every state should practice the death penalty
Agreed.

>it should be administered as public execution by firing squad.
Edgy

IQ isn't a perfect measure of intelligence or general real world performance, but it is a good one nonetheless.

Why do you think that it isn't terribly useful?

Also

>somewhat agree on this

Don't post unspesific bullshit, explain your stance further rather than try to cover your ass in a internet discussion.

OK with (3) I somewhat agree with conscription in that I don't strongly support it but it seems to be a good idea so far. I don't have any particular arguments against it so was more or less skipping it.

On IQ, It's too easy to either get it wrong in assessment with "different" personality types, or to have it "adjusted" for a political purpose. Also past adulthood IQ has a much weaker correlation with indicators of success than for children.

Also there's eq or ei, that can interfere with learning and choices regardless of iq.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence
Source.

People these days expect dignity when they aren't even fit to live. There are too many complications about how to execute them, as though it matters. Now it's done out of sight and out of mind. If we did it LOTGH style, with the worst thugs tied to posts and shot at dawn, crime would evaporate.

>women pay taxes
How wrong you are.

fathersmanifesto.net/menpy115.htm

>why 21?
Because today more than ever, teenagers prove they aren't mature enough to vote with how easily they fall into the "FREE STUFF" meme Bernie stands for. There's a need for voters to have been exposed to the world and the effect good/bad leadership has had on it a bit before having a say in how their country's run, as opposed to kids still living in mommy and daddy's bubble thinking their opinion matters. Our Founding Fathers were wise enough to know that, which is why that was the way it was originally set up.

>people that are more mentally detached from the masses should get to vote higher than the common man.
Oligarchy not democracy or a republic
>sterilize people
Nobody would allow this but I agree.
>Conscription
Agreed. But they get a top 3 listing and get guaranteed one of those 3 for mil jobs
>Immigrants should be able to vote
No they should never get to vote. Someone who isn't born in America shouldn't get to vote for America.

>anyone who pays taxes should have the right to vote.
Any American who disagrees with this needs to read a history book.

You faggot, that might sound good but it will eventually make he black and hispanic communities far supperior to what they are today.

It would only leave a small portion of their current population, and that could be easily incorporated into white population over a few generations. The more intelligent blacks and latinos are less concerned about these emotionally triggered movements like BLM or the whole race issue in general.

>Anyone who pays taxes should be able to vote
Literally no. Politics and objective decisionmaking has always been a man's thing. Women are incapable of analysing general and larger things without taking them to a personal emotional level. They are better at interpersonal things than concepts.

>I agree but sometimes you end up marrying a really shitty person and need out.
That's only because people rush into marriages without taking it as the important decision it is. "Oh we are getting married in early 20s because we like sooo LOVE :)"

>How so?
Well it would give an economic incentive for having children, knowing that your pension is going to depend on the amount of children who are going to pay for you. Basically on a societal level it is already like that, but the problem is that the future children will have to pay for ALL pensioners, even those that willingly refused to have children. Think about it, some hardworking tradesmans children from a not-so-well-off family will have to pay for the pension of some hippy liberal non-job having (some liberal public sector institution) motherfuckers who didn't bother with having children, who all their lives spewed hate against and despised the former.

This would ensure a healthy population pyramid, providing the economy a source of labour. Remove socialist fucking bullshit demands on labor costs and you can start bringing back jobs for the increasing population. No immigration required. More taxpayers. Enjoy 19th century growth in 21st century.

No, you need to read a history book. Men build civilizations, men built nation-states which support and provide for their people's best interest, men developed democracy which allows for the most personal freedoms and best quality of life for its people. Women do not understand any of this and when they are given a say in established civilizations it's the symbolic equivalent to giving a toddler the rights to reinforce a suspension bridge when they've just been playing with blocks.

>Women are incapable of analysing general and larger things without taking them to a personal emotional level.
I wouldn't say all women as a whole, but I do agree with this in general which is why I think they should have lower voting power.

>That's only because people rush into marriages without taking it as the important decision it is.
What do you propose as a solution to this?

>Well it would give an economic incentive for having children
I see. Thanks for the explanation. I agree completely.

You should be 25 or older to drink, drive a car and vote. Women should not vote.

Post more Taylor pls

If you can serve in the military, you should be able to do all those things.

Post an argument. (This is my favorite TayTay hair)

>higher IQ

means nothing alone really..

you need to test people to make sure they understand all the jargon and subtleties of their vote, if they cant study for one damn vote, then why should they influence the country with their retarded opinions?

>mandatory conscription of 2 years

not really enough time imo

Why are you attentionwhoring so hard in this thread leaf? No one is gonna post here when they see you act like this.

Israel is always backed by the USA
Females in the military are other countries women kidnapped and forced to pose for PR photos to trick young Jews into joining the IDF.

This is a dumb argument spouted constantly, serving in the military shouldn't mean you should be able to vote. Fighting and dying for your people isn't a chore or a burden it's a goddamn honor, and once people started seeing it any other way the whole system was corrupted. Teens/20 yos make up the military because its a good time to hone discipline and because they're at their physical peak, which doesn't have anything to do with the life experience which makes a voter more likely to vote in the interests of his country.

>I wouldn't say all women as a whole, but I do agree with this in general which is why I think they should have lower voting power.
No giving lower voting power is just about the worst thing you could do. It would revert back to what we have in the very next generation probably, ie 20-30 years.

What you need to do is make everyone accept the fact that politics is just not anything a woman should dabble in, ever.

There can be woman politicians, but not woman voters. There is no point in trying to differentiate between a typical woman and one that is capable and motivated to deal with politics because the latter is extremely exceptional and will find a way to get involved anyway.

Right now we're floating on this cloud of believing that everything's possible and everyone's equal, that there's no limiting factors. One way or the other reality's gonna set in eventually.

>No one is gonna post here when they see you act like this.
You literally did.

So someone who is will to fight and die for their country shouldn't have a say in the direction it moves in?

You make some very good points but can you explain this?
>politics is just not anything a woman should dabble in, ever
>There can be woman politicians

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Of course they can have a say, three years later after they've experienced some proper training or living away from their parents' coattails.

Your tone suggests that you resent the thought of having to fight and die for your country, and deserve compensation. You must be a nu-male.

1. People who think that gun ownership is important because it keeps the government in check are delusional. Your guns can't do anything against the government.

2. Probably not an unpopular opinion here, but women are less intelligent than men.

Weed should be legal for adults

Government work (Military for healthy men, clerk work for others) shouldn't be mandatory but you shouldn't be able to vote untill you have done it a la starship troopers.

Some nations are better off with foreign regimes keeping it stable.

Death penalty should be brought back

There is absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality in theory, but there is with the pride subculture.

Muslims and only muslims should be secularized, by force or not. Mosques will be put under state surveillance and those that practise their own 'law' will be torn down.

Maybe Taylor hates blacks solely because some nig came up on stage who gave a platform to people to feel sorry for a big gorilla bitch who sings songs written by whites.

>Your tone suggests that you resent the thought of having to fight and die for your country,
I literally proposed mandatory conscription in the OP. Fighting and dying for one's country is probably one of the greatest honors one can achieve.

>You must be a nu-male.
Stop projecting.

>You make some very good points but can you explain this?
Even if someone's an idiot and you wouldn't give him any responsibilities doesn't mean that he can't occasionally, by chance have a good idea. YOU just have to be the judge of it and not let him implement it.

There can be politically sensible and objective women, very rarely, so you let the men vote them into office if they so choose. But their existence doesn't mean all women are just as capable and hence should be allowed to vote. Consider the exceptional woman to be an exceptionally good idea from an idiot.

Taylor Swift is an unattractive coal burning slut and you couldn't pay me to fuck her.

I will never understand this board's obsession with her.

I don't understand this boards obsession with her either, considering she is a hardcore feminist and a Hillary supporter. Cognitive dissonance, I guess.

But you're lying when you say you wouldn't fuck her.

That's not what cognitive dissonance means tho.

I find her to be a repulsive person in every respect. I don't find her appealing in the slightest. I can unironically say I've had sex with females more attractive than her.

She's a 4/10 on a good day. 6/10 at the absolute best if she took her 400 pounds of makeup off.

Women who get drunk while knowingly pregnant should receive the death penalty.

>A women can only get half of her ex husband's money if she has been with him for more than 2 years
Law in Australia

I disagree but on the subject I strongly hate abortion. If you decide to kill your unborn baby you are just as guilty as murdering someone 3 times that unborn baby's age

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>1. I don't agree with the fact that all votes are equal. People with higher IQ should have greater voting power

Some people can't be soldiers. Mainly manlets and people with poor stress management.

1. I think women should blow up their asses and thighs and stuff and become fit, but eat enough snacks to achieve a 30-35% body fat ratio. The first woman's doing well, a few more snax tho.

youtube.com/watch?v=TN59gYxa2to

youtube.com/watch?v=Ao0mij7EHUA

youtube.com/watch?v=8Cjx0gzohNw

>trollquotes

also women.

UFOs and Aliens are daemons. Some are angels, most are demons from other "realms" , that's why they're obsessed with reproduction. Just like the Grigori(watchers) wanted to make hybrids before the flood.

Every mythology has the flood in it, by the way. I think god dropped a rock in the ocean to clear out the demi-human half breeds. Some survived.

That women and men really are equals intellectually. My girlfriend is one of the most driven, smartest, and hard working person I know. I just don't understand how she finds the will and the fucking smarts to do this well in school, at work, and in her life in general.

Sure, some may say she is the extreme exception, but I don't believe that. I think that any women who is raised in a nurturing caring environment, with both parents present like her family is, they could all become just as good of a person.

Women are our greatest allies user, don't listen to the kikes, muslims, and MGTOW faggots.

1. Islam as a whole should be modernized like Christianity has and any believers of radical Islam should be put to death.

2. Fat people should be forced to lose weight.

3. Women are inferior to men - science proves it and the wage gap is a myth.

4. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, however I believe that if you are a transsexual you are merely confused and your true gender will always be the one you were born with.

5. There are only 2 genders, male and female.

6. Mentally handicapped people should not be allowed to reproduce, and should not receive the costly benefits they do. Education for the mentally ill is a waste of money going to no potential.

>atheism
If its not a religion then what's the problem?

No immigrant should be allowed to vote. At least one parent must be born in the country and have lived for a minimum of ten total years in the country after the age of majority, and own property.

Unemployed people should not be allowed to vote, nor should anyone not eligible for combat roles in a draft.