Can some Pajeets or Mohammeds fill Mr in on the whole Kashmir thing?

Can some Pajeets or Mohammeds fill Mr in on the whole Kashmir thing?

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KASH MIR OUSSIDE
HOWBOW DAH

>be kashmir
>have hindu ruler
>have muslim population
>uh oh time to divide cunts b/w india and pak
>muslim wants to join pakistan
>ruler wants to join india
>some shit happened
>bongs decide refrendum will be done by kashmiri people to decide who they want to join
>be present day
>refrendum never took place
>half kashmir is with pakistan half with india
>both cunts want other half

nothing to explain, it's paki clay. just like cyprus is ours.

>Be Kashmir dogs
>Majority Muslims
>Ruler gives country away to India
>Chimp out and kill/force every non muslim to leave
>Shithole split between 2 countries like
it deserves to be
What thing? It's meant to be like this

>>both cunts want other half
>unable to trade due to diplomatic penalties caused by core claims

shitty mechanics desu

> half kashmir is with pakistan half with india
Most of Kashmir is under Pakistan's control, actually. Pakistan never demanded Jammu or Ladakh.

It's being illegally occupied by hindu rape monkeys that lust after Kashmiri Hellenic Aryan blood and seek to mongrelify it with their poo.

Kashmir is Aryan and wants to be free but the Poo's just can't give up their attempts at raping whiteness into their gene pool

Who cares, it's going to be a toilet no matter who owns it. Only with India it'll be a literal toilet.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA poo

He's right, you know. They raped many girls here in the 90s. Fucking apes.

You have to go back.

POO
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Kashmiri descend from Alexander the great's ancient Greek soldiers. You should defend them from those filthy shitskinned curry apes.

Fuck the ME. Kashmiri independence needs your support my fellow Whiteman

>Kashmiri descend from Alexander the great's ancient Greek soldiers.

Lol.

Cuckmiri.

pakistaniANO

Pakistan needs nukes to use them against Indian
why? because 1.2 billions poos

Yeah come on white man, support the independence of a new 'Religion of Peace' Republic.

Tell me more about Brazilian cuisine.

just if you tell me about your basic sanitation first

>Map about Tsunami

Brazilian Education.

kek
it was supposed to be the image without the source

>that shape
How do they govern the northern part of Rajauri?

>Greek rapespawn
>Aryan

They actually are.

Underrated post.

Region of pakistan

If they want independence who are you to say no ? Every nation has the right to self determination. How are you acting any different from the very imperialists you fought for independence again ?

Comeon man be reasonable

>Jammu and Kashmir had a Muslim majority (77% Muslim by the previous census in 1941[12]). Following the logic ofPartition, many people in Pakistan expected that Kashmir would join Pakistan. However, the predominant political movement in the Valley of Kashmir (Jammu and Kashmir National Conference) was secular, and was allied with theIndian National Congresssince the 1930s. So many in India too had expectations that Kashmir would join India.[13][14]The Maharaja was faced with indecision.[note 2]

>On 22 October 1947, rebellious citizens from the western districts of the State and Pushtoon tribesmen from theNorthwest Frontier Provinceof Pakistan invaded the State, backed by Pakistan.[15][16]The Maharaja initially fought back but appealed for assistance to theIndia,[17][18]who agreed on the condition that the ruler accede to India.[19]Maharaja Hari Singh signed theInstrument of Accessionon 26 October 1947 in return for military aid and assistance,[20]which was accepted by the Governor General the next day.[21][22]While the Government of India accepted the accession, it added the proviso that it would be submitted to a "reference to the people" after the state is cleared of the invaders, since "only the people, not the Maharaja, could decide where Kashmiris wanted to live." It was a provisional accession.

Straight from wikipedia
>be paki
>chimp out to claim kashmir
>get btfo and lose any claim they had

Free Quebec when?

>not posting the genocide which happened prior to the invasion of kashmir

>There were reports of large-scale massacres of Muslims in Udhampur district, particularly in proper Udhampur, Chenani, Ramnagar, Bhaderwah and Reasi areas. Killing of a large number of Muslims was reported from Chhamb, Deva Batala, Manawsar and other parts of Akhnoor with many people fleeing to Pakistan or moving to Jammu. In Kathua district and Bilawar area, there was extensive killing of Muslims with women being raped and abducted.[7][12]

>There was mass killing of Muslims in and around Jammu. The state troops led the attacks. The state officials provided arms and ammunition to the rioters. The administration had demobilised a large number of Muslim soldiers in the state army and had discharged Muslim police officers.[23][c] Most of the Muslims outside the Muslim dominated areas were killed by the communal rioters who moved in vehicles with arms and ammunition, though the city was officially put under curfew.[d] Many number of Gujjar men and women who used to supply milk to the city from the surrounding villages were reportedly massacred en-route. It is said that the Ramnagar reserve in Jammu was littered with the dead bodies of Gujjar men, women and children. In the Muslim localities of Jammu city, Talab Khatikan and Mohalla Ustad, Muslims were surrounded and were denied water supply and food. The Muslims in Talab Khatikan area had joined to defend themselves with the arms they could gather, who later received support from the Muslim Conference. They were eventually asked to surrender and the administration asked them to go to Pakistan for their safety. These people, in thousands, were loaded in numerous trucks and were escorted by the troops. When they reached the outskirts of the city, they were pulled out and killed by armed people, while abducting the women.[24][7]

They're free to leave. Unfortunately they decided to stay for gibz. It's intellectually dishonest to even try and compare the two

You know you have no moral stand on this issue but you Indians are hypocritical tribal apes. Higher ideals are as foreign to you as sanitary plumbing.

>Mahatma Gandhi commented on the situation in Jammu on 25 December 1947 in his speech at a prayer meeting in New Delhi: "The Hindus and Sikhs of Jammu and those who had gone there from outside killed Muslims. The Maharaja of Kashmir is responsible for what is happening there…A large number of Muslims have been killed there and Muslim women have been dishonoured."[25]

>According to Ved Bhasin and Chattha, the Jammu riots were "clearly" planned and executed by members of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh(RSS) who were joined by the refugees from West Pakistan, and were supported strongly by Hari Singh and his administration.[7][8]

The problem with Kashmir is that instead of becoming a sovereign state, they want to join Pakistan, which will not be good for us.

>After thePartition of India, during September–November 1947 in theJammu regionof theprincely state of Jammu and Kashmir, a large number of Muslims were massacred and others driven away toWest Punjab. The killings were carried out by extremistHindusandSikhs, aided and abetted by the forces of theDograState headed by theMaharajaHari Singh.[6]

Happened AFTER the muslim chimpout, not before.
Also kek, Im not a religious person myself, but killing muslims is never a bad thing.

If you are referring to the dardic people, then you are wrong, recent genetic tests prove that they are not related to Greeks. The most common haplogroups are L and R1a

meant to quote

happened prior to the invasion, so the poo claim that the pashtun invasion was unprovoked and the first act of aggression is baseless

If we agree to let them be independent after unilaterally withdrawing from the region would the Indians ever agree ? More likely you would meet our good faith with treachery as you have already done repeatedly throughout history.

Withdraw from the region and in 20 years allow the Kashmiri people to decide on how their nation progresses through a democratic election.

proof?

india-seminar.com/2013/643/643_christopher_snedden.htm

This is going to be lengthy so, here it comes -

The Kashmir issue never started from Kashmir, it started from Hyderabad

>Be India
>Be Pakistan
>India wants to be secular, Pakistan was founded on the grounds that Hindus and muslims can't live in peace with each other
>India and Pakistan becomes independent
>Brits gave the princely states a choice, whether to join India or Pak or become Independent.
>Race between India and Pakistan starts
>Hyderabad
>Richest state in India and among the top richest in the world
>Ruler is mulsim, population is majorly hindu
>Ruler wants to go with Pakistan because muh islam
>India invades hyderabad and captures it
>Pakistan goes butthurt
>Went into a rage fit in UN but nothing happened
>Can't unhurt the butthurt
>Kashmir
>Majority muslim, Hindu ruler
>Pakistan wants revenge, wants to play the same trick on India
>But Kashmir's king wants to remain independent
>Wut.jpg
>Can't pull the same trick on India, if the king doesn't want to join India
>Pakistan sends militants into Kashmir
>Bloodhed.jpg
>King of Kashmir seeks help from India
>India agrees to help if he agrees to join India
>King signs the succession to India
>India drives out the militants
>King of Kashmir dies
>India decides not to invade any more of Kashmir since their is a thing called UN
>Pakistan captures the rest of Kashmir
>Matter moves to UN
>UN does what it does best i.e. NOTHING
>OKAY GUYS, How about a referendum?
>Sure, UN says withdraw troops from both Pakistani and Indian kashmir and hold a referendum
>India says, let Pakistan withdraw troops first because Pakistan has already made 4 failed attempts of Invading Pakistan
>Pakistan doesn't want to remove troops
>No referendum yet.

It doesn't matter if we get destroyed in retaliation. Nuking your poo into orbit would be worth it.

>> More likely you would meet our good faith with treachery as you have already done repeatedly throughout history.
AHAHAHAHA wtf is this the famous taqiyya at work?
Or you are just so brainwashed that you actually beleive it?

Dude.. Stop.

You don't care about the facts because it doesn't fit your narrative that goes against international consensus btw...

>India annexes hyderabad
>india annexed junagadh
>india annexes goa
>indian nationalists attack dewan of travancore and force him to persuade the ruler of travancore to become part of india

pakistan was clearly justified in not withdrawing its troops from kashmir. there was no point trusting them after all they did in the region to attain hegemony

Why was Pakistan being such a cuck doe ?

What happened in Indian Kashmir
>Indian Kashmir
>Basically a federal state, have the utmost freedom and a separate constitution
>Have two kinds of parties - 1 that wants to live with India and 2 Separatists
>Mainland Indians can't settle or buy properties there
>Kashmiri muslims start genociding Hindu Kashmiris, 500,000 have to be displaced in mainland India
>Separatists pushing their agendas through islam, i.e. muslim can only live in peace with other muslims i.e. why Pakistan hold the best future for Kashmir even though Pakistan itself has no future
>Kashmiris hear about what happens in Pakistan
>Separatists now start projecting a separate country called Kashmir, totally islamic one
>Pakistan keeps sending its state funded terrorists and militants in the region every once in a while
>Fake news riles people up, people wants have a separate country, leaving the country that is actually the most free and democratic country in the whole south asia
>India can't leave kashmir because the best strategic location against Pakistan and China and also because the biggest Indian rivers starts from there
>Kashmiri youth prefer going militants and dying like a bitch than educating themselves and living a better peacefull life
>India also controls Pakistan's water supply and even though India has never misused that kind of power against Pakistan, Pakistan can never be trusted with the water supply of India so no point of ever leaving Kashmir

You forgot the part where
>muslims annex many indian kingdoms including these
Get fucked mullay, there nothing wrong with reclaiming clay

m8 you are supposed to ignore all posts by canadians

>hispanic
What the fuck

Cool story bro. You should write more fiction. It's obviously where your talents lie. (Pun intended)

>implying kashmir EVER belonged to a nude bihari swami or a smelly southie munching on veggies

Didnt belong to self exploding pedophile goat fuckers either.

>Implying your nukes work
I am pretty sure that if you had working and actually devastating nukes, you would have already nuked us regardless of the consequences because that is how an Islamic mind works

Meanwhile in Pakistan's kashmir
>Divided in two parts - Free Kashmir and Pakistan's Kashmir
>Pakistan dupes free Kashmir and makes it the part of Pakistan
>Pakistan starts replacing the actual kashmiris with mainland Pakistanis
>People are fed up with Pakistani administration and replacement of indigenous people
>Government support to anti-india militancy in the region is disrupting the peace in both Kashmir and Pakistan itself
>Wants to be free from Pakistan, like Baluchistan and Sindh - which wants to be free from Pakistan

I don't argue with muslims, people who think that you get 72 virgins as a reward in heaven for killing innocents like a bunch of cowards are even below the IQ level of a dung beetle

as an actual kashmiri, i have more right to it than a ganga sewer dweller

no, you don't have a right to my territory because you spend your time worshiping an idol of a three headed monkey god :^)

>>Pakistan doesn't want to remove troops
Pakistan doesn't have much troops there to begin with except for LOC. India meanwhile has troops there equalling the size of Pak Army.

But IMO, Kashmir issue is bullshit to begin with. It has now become something where neither Pakistan nor India will compromise on anything. Otherwise they'll be seen as the losers. It's become a game of ego. What is needed is some actual great leadership on both sides to convince people towards peace and compromise. Unfortunately, both countries are lacking in this department.

Before India was India and Pakistan was Pakistan, both countries were one.

Once the brits left the fucking cartographer geniuses divided the land in a very absurd way, leading to mass migrations from India to Pakistan, also Bangladesh was Pakistan, you can very easily tell Pakistan was unable to hold Bangladesh from so far away and they eventually left, while being slowly absorbed by India.

Now, both Pakistan and India have territorial claims over Kashmir.

Also do keep in mind that there are several ethnic communities crammed together into India who do not get along at all, and it is the same way in Pakistan, the Baluchis want to separate from Pakistan as they hold more ties to their Afghan brothers, and some just want an independent Baluchistan altogether.

USSR tried to expand into Pakistan to have a precious warm water port to which the USA wasn't happy about and aided India to prevent any Soviet-Paki ties.

There is much more to read and I recommend you take a look into it.

>as an actual kashmiri
kek no youre just an angry sandpedo rapebaby who displaced the original population

>M-muh Muslims are violent so let me murder people in peace over beef
Indian IQ is lower than Pak's FYI.

We know how tolerant are Kashmiri Muslims towards non-Muslim Kashmiris. If we left that place it will turn into an Islamic State soon.

scroll.in/article/811468/the-killing-fields-of-jammu-when-it-was-muslims-who-were-eliminated

>>Pakistan dupes free Kashmir and makes it the part of Pakistan
>>Pakistan starts replacing the actual kashmiris with mainland Pakistanis
This is false. Pakistanis are not allowed to buy land/business there. Even their ID cards doesn't say Pakistan anywhere.

Here comes the most enjoyable part while arguing a Kashmiri on this board

It is never going to be free, neither from India nor from Pakistan. You can either die either figthing with India or Pakistan or live in any other country.

UN is never going to do anything on the issue, the increasing number of Kashmiri graves and the issue getting 50+ years old proves my point. Both Pakistan and India have nukes, so no matter how butthurt you guys get, the reality is you are never going to be free.

It's not just about leadership. Both countries have spent decades as enemies. Any party that makes a compromise will never recover.
I would say the situation now is the best it can be, no matter how fucked up it really is. There are border incidents from time to time and problems in Kashmir, but it's better than full scale war over a useless piece of land.

says the dravidian mongrel

hinduism isn't even your religion you know. it was imposed by aryan invaders on the dark skinned natives of india. you have zero connection to the region

>Before India was India and Pakistan was Pakistan, both countries were one.
There was never a single country.
>and some just want an independent Baluchistan altogether.
You mean most do. I don't think anybody wants to be a part of another country anymore.

my family already lives in azad kashmir, so i have no real pains wrt to the current status quo

i won't lie i would enjoy seeing kashmir liberated from indian control, but i'll have to satisfy myself with the cross-border militancy game and enjoy seeing arnab goswami chimp out on republic for now

>muh aryan invasion
Haha fucking ignorant goatfucker doesnt know a thing about history how surprising.
Im not even hindu btw.

We have troops there because you keep sending militants there

There are larger things at play more than the Kashmir thing
The problem with Pakistan is that the Pakistani army isn't in the control of Pakistani government and that is the main reason Pakistan is having such hard time dealing with terrorism and developing the country.

Nobody gives a fuck about Kashmiris neithe India nor Pakistan

The kashmir is actually about
>Water
>Strategical importance
>Access to central Asia through Afghanistan

People will compromise if a great leader convinces them to.

And the situation isn't the best. Do you really want to continue as enemies for the rest of eternity? Would you live with a neighbour who's out to fuck you on every step?

>he thinks aryans peacefully migrated over to india and settled alongside dark dravidian natives worshipping their monkey and elephant idols

You have nothing to substantiate that claim other than your own bigotry and pseudo history (that IS rejected by the international community).

I wouldn't be so certain.. A lot of unexpected developments can happen. Cow shit is unhygienic. Your "holy" rivers are little more than open sewers. India will suffer as antibiotic resistant bacteria become more common. Your unclean pagan lifestyle will cost you dearly.

Just telling what I hear about in the media, clearly you can never trust both Pakistani and Indian media

Also, you guys should really consider CPEC since, it going to drown you in debt

Nothing's going to happen. There is a reason a tiny and failed country like North Korea is still existing under the supposed nuclear umbrella

So you once again showcase your ignorance and spout Sup Forums memes
>aryans are white
>gets buttmad to prove aryan invansion despite no sign of an invasion or even a small skirmish ever.
Arguing with a muslim is pointless what m I doing.

Don't really give a fuck about kashmiris (Pandits or Muslims). Just need that land.

That was the old generation Army. The army with new generation is almost 80% under government control now. They have given up a lot of their power in past 5 or so years. Also, terrorism is down massive 70% or so after multiple operations carried out by the army. There may still be some power struggle on some issues but its not where it was a decade ago.

Where are the rights of Kashmiri Pandits.

Not to sound like banter, but Pakistan is far from being a stable country mate. I remember how Pakistani army declared Pakistan a terror free country a few months back and it didn't even take terrorist 6 hours to attack a Pakistani Army Camp.

Your country is regarded as a failed state, your cities have more than 6+ hours powercuts, China drowning you in loans and CPEC is only going to be built and managed by Chinese people.

You need a very big political revolution to actually improve your country

>aryans are white

they're obviously not white, but they were lighter and fair-skinned than dark dravidian poos

i'm surprised you're getting butthurt over this, since it's a matter of pride in india to look white. why else do indians buy so much fair 'n' lovely cream?

>>gets buttmad to prove aryan invansion despite no sign of an invasion or even a small skirmish ever.

>indo-aryans arrive in india
>somehow magically impose themselves as upper-caste over actual natives (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16893451)
>eventually reach a stage where lower-castes will literally clean the shit of upper-castes
>brainwashed poos claim that it was a peaceful migration

Paying off CPEC debt is easier than convincing this retarded nation to work in STEM fields.

How are you planning to pay the CPEC debt when you won't be allowed to work in the CPEC projects. It would have been a good thing for you if China allowed your people to work in CPEC since then you would have gained some skills to build your own little economic corridors, like we are building DMIC after getting experience from joint ventures

Which attack are you talking about? And Army never declared us a terror free state.

Powrcuts only happens where people are stealing electricity or not paying bills. Otherwise there are no powercuts.

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