This debate is dead right?

This debate is dead right?

Ronaldo is the current GOAT.

Current? Ronaldo is the ALL TIME GOAT

discussion is over, messifags commited all sudoku.

/thread

Are we going to do this shit every week until they retire, kind of like how at the end of the first Pirates of the Caribbean when Cpt Jack Sparrow and Barbosa are both immortal skeletons?

please, is this ironic?

On how many levels is Sup Forums making fun of real madrid?

Not yet, not... yet.

Hattrick.
Confirmed for GOAT.

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>americlap sawker opinions

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nice spoilers wanker

BACK TO BACK HATTRICKS

THE FUCKING GOAT

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>mocking people for using "soccer" when your country invented the term

meme

>HAT-TRICK
BOW DOWN TO YOUR GOAT

Messi has to try in a shitty league game because he can't compete in important games.

But he is you loser

/thread

take ur b8 elsewhere

>el clasico
>just a shitty league game

Messi is on another level compared to le tap in man

/thread

It still triggers me how that shirt is so fucking straight

Ronaldo had a better pass completion % and dribbles completed in that game than Messi did at home v Juventus. Messi also had 6 of 7 shots go off target(2 of 5 for TSUUU), was dispossessed more and fouled less .

he also scored 0 ( Z E R O ) goals to Ronaldos 3 (T H R E E)

Ronaldo is the better player in every department

Yeah, a level below him.

Penaldo has ZERO (0) trebles

Messi has TWO (2)

Penaldo has won ONE (1) league in NINE (9) years

LOLOL

t, Ms. C

t. Halal Alwabi Hernandez Perez

Remember when TSUUU bought a child for £10million because he is a faggot?

>b8
>goat

Messi has 1 (O N E) champions league in 6 years

Ronaldo will soon have 3 (T H R E E)

Messi has 1 (O N E) Balon D'Or since 2012

Ronaldo will soon have 4 (F O U R)

Messi has 0 (Z E R O) international trophies, ronaldo has 1 (O N E) and counting

LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF

Messi will have 1 (one) world cup next year

probably a treble too

>10 million

There is no way it was that much. The mother was a random (presumably) pretty California waitress. He gave her like 3 million tops, which is 10 times more than she would have earned in a lifetime.

Remember when CONMEBOL gave Messi an additional Copa America and he fucked that one up too?

it had nothing to do with Messi

it was in the plans since the 80s

Messi have 2 (two) trebles
Ronaldo has 0

He have to be level below Ronaldo. Other way he would be offside.

The debate was closed more than 7 years ago.
Messi is the GOAT, Ronaldo is top 10.

/thread

Messi has ONE (1) official retirement

Ronaldo has ZERO (0)

RONALDO HAS BEEN PLAYING FOR 10+ (TEN PLUS) YEARS AND HAS YET TO RETIRE ONCE (1)

KEKEK

/thread

nobody cares about trebles, this isn't 2002 anymore you autist.

league +cl is the only thing that matters

Messi is the GOAT, he has more money value.

Messi has 8 leagues and 4 CLs
Ronaldo has 4 leagues and and 3 CLs

>NT trophies: 0
>goat

NT is a fucking joke
quality of football there is Europa League

That movie is almost 20 years old

>if Messi chokes in the final then the trophy is a fucking joke
nice argument

>counting a CL final that he didn't even make the bench for
>counting a league title he played 7 games in

top kek.

the totals stand at 7-3 vs 4-3, soon to be 5-4. plus an international trophy which is worth 2.

ronaldo 11-10 messi

Messi was meant to play in the final but got injured
If not playing in the final means you don't have that trophy then Ronaldo's NT doesnt count either

A
FUCKING
SHEEP

lmao but he did play in the final

what world are you living in

Not even in his most thug moment Messi looks less autistic. Literally a bearded child

He was taken off after 25 minutes

kek. nice try kid, but no.

and that doesnt even make sense. ronaldo played that game and come off injured. are you saying a player has to play the entire full match for it to count?

quite sad.

Ronaldo doesn't do shit, all he does is stand in the goal box and header the goal and tap it in, he has the best teammates in the world currently, just like how Messi had the best teammates in the world when Pep was manager. But Ronaldo still can't reach 73 goals in a La Liga season. Messi creates plays and scores amazing goals. Unlike Ronaldo who just stands there and taps goals in.

I'm saying they should make an impact
Ronaldo didn't score in either Champions League final with Madrid (aside from a 119th minute penalty when they were up 3-1) or the Euro final. He has been carried by Ramos and Marcelo for the past 8 years

>he didn't play for the amount of time i wanted, so it's just the same as him not playing at all

you sound retarded

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>mfw you idiots seriously think UEFA won't rig the WC and let nice boi Messi win his precious WC.

Messi is a failure in Europa League

>He started the game and played for a few minutes, doing absolutely nothing in that time then went off with a boo boo, but that doesn't mean he wasn't important!!!

Give it to me baby


Tsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

you got all that from me calling you retarded? you must actually be retarded

>uefa
>world cup
Oh, it's a burguer.

uefa rigged the last one and he still lost. God doesn't want him to win

/thread

this is just a phase

it's got to pass

>I'm saying they should make an impact

what a pointless and arbitrary statement. does a goalkeeper that keeps a clean sheet and doesnt have a shot to save "make an impact"?

>He has been carried by Ramos and Marcelo for the past 8 years

kek again. 17 year old found.

you've been watching football, what 3, 4 years right? marcelo was a joke player up until the last few seasons.

you really are a sad bandwaggoner.

>up until the last few seasons
and up until the last few season Real Madrid had 2 trophies in Rolando's first 4 years

>doesn't answer the points raised
>"o-o-o-oh but what about this!!1!!!!"

pathetic.

/thread

don't bother replying to that idiot. no point when all he can do is deflect and change the topic.

So somehow messi being in barca with iniesta, eto and xavi , means he wasnt carried like ronaldo. Nice double standard Sup Forums

he's in every thread on the board whiteknighting barcelona and messi.

really sad that someone can put that much effort into bandwaggonining a team halfway around the world that they have no connection to

>Ronaldo has 0
2007/08

>points raised
The point the Marcelo has only been good for the last few seasons? My counter is that Real Madrid has only been good coincidentally in the last few seasons
>does a goalkeeper that keeps a clean sheet and doesnt have a shot to save "make an impact"?
No, if they don't have to save any shots then you could have had an open net and no difference in score. Ronaldo before being taken off had 0 shots, 0 dribbles, 0 key passes and 66% pass completion. He was playing like shit and if not injured should have been benched

He won the double that season. If you're referring to the League Cup he won that the season after.

So the final with united never happened?

no im referring to the super cup
dont try to pull any mental gymnastics trying to convince me its a mickey mouse cup because you'll hurt yourself sweetie

Usually the treble refers to the 3 major titles
If we include minor wons then I can say Messi has won the quadruple while Rolando hasn't
It did happen, I'm not taking away with that, but his impact with Madrid finals are worthy of criticising

Realistically speaking, what happens if teams decide to dedicate 1-2 players to mark Ronaldo, and have 3-4 players to swarm him whenever he gets the ball? How many goals does he score then?

he got a goal and an assist last year champ. messi has 0 goals and 2 assists in his last 2 finals

what do you think of messi's impact in his past 6 champions league games?

why does ronaldo have about 15 more knockout stage goals than messi?

messi's impact in the knockout stage is worthy of criticism imo

>he got a goal and an assist last year champ. messi has 0 goals and 2 assists in his last 2 finals
What? In Ronaldo's last 2 CL finals he has 1 penalty in the last minute when up and no involvement in the 2016 one
Messi scored the winning goal in the 2011 final and would have scored the winning one in the 2015 final but it was deflected and Suarez tapped it in

>relying only on goals and assists
Dig up more stats to really get an idea of "impact". By your argument, Xavi and Iniesta have had 0 impact on CL finals cause they have 0 goals.

Goals are literally the only metric Ronaldo can compete with Messi in. Messi is better in literally every other metric, and not just better than Ronaldo, but better than players playing responsible for performing in that metric.

>messi wouldve score the winning goal if he actually scored

how are you so stupid?

Why are Americans so obsessed with who is goat or not?

The majority of these thread starters are filthy yanks.

so they have the same numer of goals and assists in their previous two finals? why is one worthy of criticism and not the other? why wont you answer any of the rest of the post?

don't bother. not wasting any more time on your shitposts

t. clueless paki.

>By your argument, Xavi and Iniesta have had 0 impact on CL finals cause they have 0 goals.

never said anything like that. if you actually followed the debate instead of jumping in like a clown you'll find it was the kiwi who was making arbitrary and pointless statements about "impact"

>Messi is better in literally every other metric, and not just better than Ronaldo

last CL game:
messi - 0 goals, 2 dribbles completed, 84.9% pass accuracy, 1/7 shots on target, dispossessed twice, aerial duels won 1

ronaldo - 3 goals, 3 dribbles completed, 3 of 5 shots on target, 85.7% pass accuracy, dispossessed once, 2 aerial duels won

you are absolutely delusional and clueless. maybe you should say 'metric' a few more times to try and sound intelligent...

why do all you pakis always bandwaggon barcelona? genuinely pathetic.

pathological obsession with NHL/NFL/NBA type stats
>my percentage > your percentage

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>why is one worthy of criticism and not the other?
Because not every stat is equal. Messi was involved in the winning goal/assist

/threaol

Time for some OC.

I got video too.

In the bay area.

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What was wrong with what I said?

>goals only count when i say they do
genuine autism.

you literally can't find it within yourself to criticise messi can you? seek help

That's not what I said
The reality is sports are not as simple as "this number is higher"
Sometimes Ronaldo scores more important goals, however I believe in this instance Messi did