Be me

>Be me
>Mid-20's and married
>Work at factory almost non-stop doing hard times to get wife through school
>Body feels broken although I'm still young, I can hardly walk after work sometimes, do both day and night shifts to support us
>Also pretty Catholic couple, church every Sunday etc.
>Doing NFP cause that's only moral way to not have kids and still have sex
>Wife hardly ever wants to have sex with me, and when she does, get dead fish treatment alot
>"user, I'm just not feeling up for it"
>"user, I'm tired from the gym"
>"user, I'm tired from school"
>Mfw .exe
>Look up woman's cycle deats
>NFP says we can only have sex when women desire it the least, at the low points in their fertility cycle
>Light goes off in my head
>Our sex life was incredible until NFP came along
>Fuck my shit up fam .gif
>She's a good wife otherwise, not very good a cleaning but tries, doesn't mind me partying, cooks, keeps in great shape, works hard, etc.
>Wat do

Do I have to choose between getting my rocks off and my religion, /b?

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god isnt real

What is nfp?

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google catholic nfp

Divorce now before you're in too deep.

You Google it then copy and paste or tell us.

Get dog/test baby
Have kids
Build fortune
Find texts
Wife been banging trainer
Wife leaves
Takes kids
Takes fortune
You a hero

That's pretty much your future.

She is the trainer

KKK, essentially you only fuck on days where the woman can't really conceive, so we get about 10 days a month to fuck. Unfortunately, she likes it alot better at other times when she is naturally more into it

I want to kill every fucking braindead religious person out there.
You're the reason we're not at Mars yet

Pull out retard

1 - Pull out.
2 - ?
3 - Profit

careful with that edge son

Just bang whenever you want. Fuck Catholicism. Your preists molest children.

natural family planning, no drugs, no protection, just pure intercourse or abstinence and that's it.

I can't pull out because this:

youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

Lolololol. What a cuck. You are paying for her school?? Shes is Fucking every monkey nigger in the area dude

divorce before it's too late, explore other religions in the meantime because we all know catholic women are the lowest tier, and don't be afraid to start your life later than everyone else in your peer group.

Atheists act like they're the first ones to ever question the existence of god lol... you're perception of religious people being these clueless lemmings worshipping a guy in the clouds is so far from reality... If you weren't so closed minded you might understand the deep meanings behind it... yes, you're the closed minded one

"Religions are inherently violent" "Religion is bad, mmkay"

"I WANNA KILL ALL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE" lel

NFP is absolute bullshit.
Have a serious discussion with your wife, about how much you love her and how much it bothers you that you don't feel as close as you want to be. About how NFP destroys intimacy and tears marriages apart and always has.

You can probably fix this, but she needs to know that you are available emotionally and that you care about her, that an intimate relationship with her is the most important thing to you. She needs to know both that you're unhappy about that distance and that you want to fix it.

is masturbating a sin in catholicism?

Try making out with her during the times you can't do things and getting her in the "it will be so great next time mind set." Think of foreplay during her fertile periods as a to be continued thing. She will of been hot a few days and just need fufilled if ya know what i mean.

Why not get either of you guys tubes tied?
Or is god so anal that he won't let people be smart about when they put children into the world?

You're going to miss the bus.

Thanks for the serious comment- what you suggest is what I plan on doing. And you may be right about NFP, I know a bunch of other Catholic couples my age and it rips up virtually all of us. Having to fuck on a schedule plus having to do it when women naturally want it less is fucking rough. We'll see how it goes. THanks again

Many catholics believe it is. The hardliners who believe the only purpose of sex organs is procreation within marriage. It comes from an interpretation of a bible verse, Genesis 38:9, where a guy named Onan fucked his brother's wife and spilled his seed on the ground. Some take that to mean that wasting one's seed is the sin, rather than the adultery. Or twist it to make it sound as if spilling one's seed is adultery in and of itself. They also throw in the whole "coveting thy neighbor's wife" thing, impure thoughts and all that.

that's a sin in catholicism

Convince her (with evidence) that most Catholic women do use “real” birth control.

It’s perfectly possible to be a good Catholic and use birth control.

2018
religion

Lol yes- even if it wasn't, when i watched porn and jerked off as a teen it made me lethargic etc. and I need all my energy for the work I do or else I won't make it.

ah. thank you, my fair boy.

Oh right then.
So in order to be a catholic you have to subvert your own instincts in order to not sin?
I mean what is more hurtful, forcing a kid to grow up in abject poverty or avoiding getting a kid until you are both financially ready?

I'm not particularly religious, but you truely believe in a god are insulting his intelligence by followig the bible literally. That book was written by and for retarded sand people which is why everything in that book which seems sensible is taken to it's logical extreme. Even if you believe it was divinely inspiered it must have still been written in a way the sand niggers of 1000 B.C. could understand.

I.E:
No sex outside marriage = don't have irresponsible sex because you might get pregnant and end up raising a child alone, get STDs, and generally act like a degenerate.

Fuck your wife and don't take a 5000 year old books written for sand monkeys literally

Just get a lover.

Not op or catholic here, but if birth control is a sin, you can bet having a side lover is a sin as well.

It's not a sin if she doesn't know.

I want to thank everyone for their replies- esp the anons who were supportive. I'm going to talk to her when she gets home tonight and tell her what she means to me, and how important an intimate relationship is for us. We'll see how it goes.

Good luck, Sup Forumsro
Remember, it's not just about the act of sex

Sure it is, if you believe in the catholic god, you believe he knows all of the things you do.
Adultery and masturbation is a sin in this belief system, so his wife not knowing wouldn't disable the sin part of it.
I personally don't believe in any religion, but if op has chosen to life by this ruleset, he can't arbitrarily decide what is sin and what isn't based on what his dick thinks about it.

A good way of getting her to understand is the notion of "Women need love in order to feel sexy and men need sex in order to feel loved".

>Duh. Deeper meaning.
>Durr. Religion.
>Duh. I don't have good sex because god gets mad but I really want good sex.
>Duh. Don't know what to do. Continue worshiping fake angry god or start enjoying my life?

>if op has chosen to life by this ruleset, he can't arbitrarily decide what is sin and what isn't based on what his dick thinks about it

Why not?

That’s not true you can fuck during BIP every other day. Her desire is higher then. You just can’t fuck during peak

Ignore this faggot. Catholics are top tier

Because he actually thinks that there is an omnipotent and omniscient entity keeping an eye on his actions and judging him for it.
If your wellbeing was predicated on the approval of a person who monitors you at all times and you have no way of avoiding this, wouldn't you be acting in a way that didn't piss that person off?

well fuck me, you may be right, I may have misread how this shit works

have an excellent song as a thank you youtube.com/watch?v=Av5Jb52yFBo

But he chose to believe in all of this, so he can still choose what to believe of this.

It might be a choice for people who grow up with no religion and who then find something they can believe in.
In ops case, I'm sure he grew up with catholic parents and didn't really have a choice in believing in the Catholic god.
Don't get me wrong, I'd never become a Catholic or any other version of religious, but I can understand when people refrain from doing something that goes against their beliefs.

>In ops case, I'm sure he grew up with catholic parents and didn't really have a choice in believing in the Catholic god.

So do people believe god or does god make people believe him?

No Problem OP. Have a similar situation to you. Raised proddie scum, left as teenager to be edgelord. Met sweet catholic girl in college. I dropped out and worked a shitty job to keep us housed while she finished school. Recently got into a trade and she graduated. I converted to Catholicism and we got married. God bless brother.

OP, I need a little advice from you. 19yo fag here, dating a 18yo qt3.14 catholic I met through work. I was her first kiss (for sure. Nobody with experience would be that bad) and am trying to get things to go further. At what point did everything go to shit for you? Did you guys fuck refularly before marriage?

Well in my opinion, man created god in their own image and put the rules they found imperative into the realm of divine rules.
I also think if children weren't told about god in the way that they do, religions would die out in a matter of generations. Whether that is good or bad comes down to how people react to this.

Not OP but get married, have kids, and be a man

Sure thing. You're story is very similar to mine, except that I was 20 and she was 18 and we met at school. We fucked quite a bit at first( I was her first everything, even kiss, just like you) and I also didn't give two shits about religion then, had left my cradle homeschooled Catholic upbringing behind and essentially became a deist. After a few months of this we had a pregnancy scare (we were usually careful, but we had gotten rip roaring drunk and been stupid). She was in tears, really afraid, feeling guilty, all of it. "user, I can't do this anymore, I need a man who can wait, etc. etc." I find her to be worth it, we stop fucking. To my surprise, I can handle it, and she's much much happier, so the relationship is if, anything, better. I slowly become Catholic again due to my teen angst wearing off, my uber religious school, and my now wife. About two years later, we get married, sex life is great. Two months after marriage, I lose my fucking high paying job due to the owners being IRS fucking tax cheats and trying to lay a bunch of people off to save on legal bills. We almost lose everything, run through all our savings, and I go to work in the factory to keep us afloat, and we have to do NFP we neither of us understand too well. Essentially that's when it went to shit.

To you though b/ro, I will say that having a religious girlfriend/wife can be fantastic. They can be really loyal, have really good intentions, and typically are really family oriented, which was big for me. So my recommendation really varies based on what you want out of your relationship- if you want marriage, she's probably a great option as long as you are financially stable. If you want something more like fucking on the regular without being married, I would be careful, because relgious girls can oftentimes have extreme guilt about it, start second guessing themselves, and can end up even lashing out about it because they are afraid of what their parents etc would think

God Bless man, I'm really glad it worked out for you.

It will work out for you too. Hell it already has. You’re married to a religious girl. That’s better than all the cucks and r9k losers.

If she is religious but otherwise mentally stable, just take it slow and show her that you want her for her and not just sex.
If she shows any signs of BPD or something similar run as fast as you can.

That's retarded

I think so too. She's a good one and I don't want to lose her. We'll work it out just fine I think- talking it out on here has definitely helped a lot. Having 12 hour days at a factory with earplugs in has made me get into my own head too much. Thanks /b.

If you’re 5 hours in sweating, blistered, and hungry, and the only thing you want to do is walk out the fucking door. If you can close your eyes and see her face and that gets you to the lunch break, she’s the right one. Worked for me, thought about leaving for a while. “What the hell am I getting out of this” and the like. I’m glad I didn’t. Me discovering this practice was my first experience of what I would consider Divine intervention. And what began me on a path back to the church.

Atheists the religious branch of Antifa

>Implying atheism is left wing and that they all support antifa.

Read Humanae Vitae. 10

w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae.html

With regard to physical, economic, psychological and social conditions, responsible parenthood is exercised by those who prudently and generously decide to have more children, and by those who, for serious reasons and with due respect to moral precepts, decide not to have additional children for either a certain or an indefinite period of time.

FOR SERIOUS REASON

What are you serious reason ? You are already a sinner by doing your NFP if you don't have serious reason

Humanae Vitae 16 :

If therefore there are well-grounded reasons for spacing births, arising from the physical or psychological condition of husband or wife, or from external circumstances, the Church teaches that married people may then take advantage of the natural cycles immanent in the reproductive system and engage in marital intercourse only during those times that are infertile, thus controlling birth in a way which does not in the least offend the moral principles which We have just explained. (20)
well-grounded reasons for spacing births, arising from the physical or psychological condition of husband or wife, or from external circumstances


Go to hell sinner.

dubs of truth

Your answer is in the first line you quote- my job loss+financial situation. I've talked to a priest plus a phd theologian from my alma about it, according to them, we're morally in the clear. Impressive research skills though,

Aka Rhythm Method

You only fuck when she isn’t fertile.

If Mars was a desert planet that just had too little oxygen and water, a Martian colony would be realistic.
But the surface of Mars is too toxic even for test bacteria to survive.
Scientist that want to conquer a new world should start building underwater.

>3000-982
>not being religious
I’m sorry for your parents.
It must have been hell raising a retarded child.

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The Church is becoming what Jesus despised the most: Pharisees