Trump detractors claim he's the biggest moron on planet earth

>trump detractors claim he's the biggest moron on planet earth.
>he simultaneously made billions upon billions of dollars, one of the most popular television shows ever, and went from civilian to leader of the free fucking world in less than a year
How do you reconcile these two facts?

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That's four facts. And that's how Trump made it this far, fucking idiots like you.

He made billions and lost billions. He's no financial genius

One of the most popular shows ever? Really?
He had one of the biggest inaugural crowds as well right? You fucking moron

Granted the fact that while people places and events that he describes are usually false, his OPINIONS are usually rock-solid.

Like the whole "shit-hole" fiasco.

Does anyone that's actually honest with themselves disagree that Haiti and most of Africa is a shithole? Do you want to live there? I would say anywhere that you don't want to live can be classified as a shithole. I don't want to live in Detroit, because Detroit is a shithole. I don't want to live in Haiti, because Haiti is a DEEP shithole. For all that the tourist areas are pretty, most of the country is a cesspool.

Wait...so you're one of those idiots who learned about Donald through The Apprentice? You realize that show was a lie, that he's spent his entire business career fucking up, that he'd be wealthier had he just invested the money he inherited from his father and that all the money he makes is based on the brand is dad established before he was even in business...right?

Better than 99.99999999% of the planet

haha

if he'd taken his dad's money and put it into regular passbook savings accounts, he'd have more money today than all of his "genius" deal making.

also, who tf cares about some gay-ass tv show. whoopdie-do, he makes a show my fucking gramma watches. she's not even in the money demographic for advertisers.

well, I mostly reconcile it through that the fact that those are three points of his history, not two facts is an indication you're a fucking moron.

the fact he may have made "a few" billion among his vast debts, the bankruptcies of casinos, etc, over the course of 40 years, including his inheritance of 300 million from his father, and the several bailouts he gave Trump during his lifetime is one thing. Claiming he made it "in less than a year" is nothing but utter fantasy.

"one of the most popular television shows ever", which was developed by Producer Mark Burnett - who on approaching Trump, was turned down, trump saying that reality television "was for the bottom-feeders of society", until Burnett suggested that it portray Trump as the successful businessman with all his lifestyle. Only at that point did trump, whose marketing strategy was to licence his identity as a franchise, agree. So it was hardly Trump's achievement, but that of the producer and editors who created compelling drama from Trump's actions. Also, that started in 2004, so 13 years of brand awareness,

and went from civilian to leader in less than a year? Just like many other elected presidents? Obama was a civilian. So was Clinton. And Roosevelt, and Adams. (both of them)

Meanwhile, trump is incapable of stringing 20 words together without his mind wandering, he's got a long record of watching Fox TV, and when he starts talking its with the sort of complexity of an 8-year old.

The man was fairly coherent 40 years ago, and made, by the standards of my income, and fucking shit-tonne. And he was on a successful TV programme, and he did manage to tap into the lowest common denominator of the US political zeitgeist. But none of those are mutually exclusive with him also being a fucking moron. And given how many of the cabinet use those exact words, I suspect they're right.

Kardashians made 10 times more money from their trash show

>Spent entire career fucking up
He literally took 1M and multiplied it by 1000...5 times.
>Based on a brand his dad established
Trump wasn't even a brand back then. Trump started a separate company. His father/Grandmother's company was E. Trump & Son and they built residential homes.

He got everything from his father and that drives him nuts.

Kardashians, next Democrat canidate.

You do realize that most savings accounts' interest rates don't even keep up with inflation...right? So that's literally impossible.

But but but the main stream media told me this.

Wrong he took out billions from German banks as loans as no US bank would touch him for his new businesses. And he only makes $130m a year gross.

You need to understand business, not listen to the hype.

>went from civilian to leader of the free fucking world in less than a year

He ran in 2012, that is more than a year lol

That time Trump cried about Obama winning outside of the popular vote and crying about it. Later wins the same way and thinks it is amazing.

The life of Hypocrite Trump.

>Does anyone that's actually honest with themselves disagree that Haiti and most of Africa is a shithole?

as an extremely left-leaning Liberal?
No. I wouldnt disagree in the slightest.

But if, I were somehow an elected official - be it a town hall, or a president, I certainly wouldn't be using terms like that about another nation, and its that which most of those I know are up in arms at. We all know they are shitholes, but international diplomacy means you use terms like "developing" to describe them. And every diplomant knows full well what "developing" means. but its the polite way to have manners.

And instead, by using the sort of terms a fucking moron would use, he's sparked a scandal which means those shithole countries will instead turn to China (who are aggressively pushing their involvement in Africa funding infrastructure, for example), and the US loses standing and influence. Far from "Making America Great", actions like that are making america weaker, without influence, and isolated on the geopolitical map.

You do realize that you don't have to make 1 billion yearly to be a billionaire, right? You say 130m yearly as if that's a failure, lol. You think Oprah makes 1 billion yearly? Lmao.

no one really uses passbook anymore, but an index fund would have totally been better than he did. btw, he lies about his income and worth. part of the reason he won't ever release his tax info. plus, were talking about a dipshit that managed to bankrupt a casino.

He inherited money from daddy and then used it to take advantage of the stock market crash

its not hard to win a popularity contest user. also
>had a rich daddy

When did Obama lose the popular vote?

He has his own Boeing 757 airplane and people think he’s stupid. Top fucking keK.

Best part is Obama actually did win the popular vote

You're really reaching here.

The Trump brand did exist before he got it, Trump just belittled and ruined it.

He doesn't even own all the brand anymore, he had to sell so much shares in the company to bail himself out from multiple Bankruptcies, including selling the family Yacht, that his father painstakingly worked hard to get, like it meant nothing to him.

OP is biggest moron on Earth so that is invalid. Also the rest is debatable

Bruce Jenner is a republican

Of course he would have an airplane after he ran an airline business into the ground.

He didn't.

I know which makes it even more funny.

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You live in a PC restricted world that inhibits your free speech. You seek to change Trumps speech by saying the president can't say certain things.

They're shitholes.

Further, fuck our international standing. No more tip toeing around. Say it like it is.

Fuck you and your feekings.

The same way Henry ford made money, with money. It's not hard to make money when you have so much capital. Also if you watch his earlier interviews compared to today he was smarter when he was younger.
He mostly just won the lottery of life and it doesn't is far from any sort of proof of him being intelligent. That being said I don't think he's as dumb as most people think he is either. He's pretty average.

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Honestly, it's kind of hard to fuck up an inheritance the size that his family left him. With the amount of people working for him, investing for him, he hardly have to do any work.

All he's done is take the credit for people who's smarter than him has done for his business.

Look at this faggot, “He’s no financial genius.”

>Because having enough money to have your very own Boeing 757 with GOLD seatbelt fasteners and gold bathroom fixtures isn’t enough evidence of smart financial decisions. Top fucking keK.

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If so, what's the big deal? Jealous?

He's risked and fail, got back up and tried again.

>his fortune was jump started by a 'small' loan of 1 million dollars aka his fathers work.

surprising

>he literally doesn't know when to shut fuck up and sit the fuck down

trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers as they say

>he didn't create the show but loves credit for it

like how everyone who supports him thinks he earned his money

>he won presidency over a woman

congrats, i'm sure everyone is surprised a retard could win a race against a person in a coffin

And he also sold sad sacks like you cheap cuts of beef as premium steaks for bigly prices.

But he doesn't make billions, he doesn't own billions either, the banks still own the majority of his assets.

Seems you do not understand economics too well there.

Where’s your Boeing 757 faggot? You sound like you know so much. Hindsight being what it is makes you a fucking genius then.

> The Trump brand did exist before he got it, Trump just belittled and ruined it.

I literally just explained that his father owned a completely different company in a different construction industry. Point debunked

>He doesn't even own all the brand anymore
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> he had to sell so much shares in the company to bail himself out from multiple Bankruptcies

You're just making shit up now, lol. The Trump Organization isn't even a publicly traded company, lmao. There are no shares to sell...

Also, the *companies* went bankrupt. Not he himself. Hence setting up a LLC (limited Liability company). The *company* itself is liable for the debt. Not him. The debt can be restructured after bankruptcy, but he doesn't necessarily have to come out of his own pocket to pay because he's not liable.

Pfffft he's not even on the forbes top 500 list.. amateur billionaire

but but my fake news
and "muh feelings" over ride facts

what, you think that diplomacy doesnt matter?


I can just see Donald Reagan:
>"Mister Gorbachev, this wall is a shithole!"
yeah. that would have really made a difference, to challenge the Cold War mentality.

ANd as for JFTrump
"Two thousand years ago, They said something in latin, but I dont speak that. Today, in the world of freedom, the proudest boast is "I'm an american!"... This city's a shithole, I wouldnt say I'm from here!"

Yep. that would really have been a world-changing moment, as half of Western Europe started thinking "you know, maybe joining the Soviets would be more sensible than this asshole..."

the only people who extol Trump "telling it like it is" are those who have not even the most basic comprehension of international diplomacy. Or think that Kim Jong-un's insane slogans are the norm too. There's a reason NK is considered a rogue state, and part of it is that it doesn't behave like other nations when it comes to diplomacy.

You don't understand "other people's money" to reduce your own risk. It's why you take loans and get investors.

Does Trump boast, hell yes.

Get over it.

Nigga I don’t eat beef.

Still trying to promote the fact he has a jet liner makes him a billionaire.

Facts $60m for an up to date Jet Liner, Multi-Millionaires can afford them.

People who use gold as an adornment around themselves are egotists, and think by showing off fake wealth it makes you wealthy. Nope.

I guarantee Bill Gates doesn't sit around with Gold everywhere, and he is more of a businessman than Trump is.

Not really.

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Doesn't bother me he isn't in charge in my country, so I am fine. Shame about you yanks.

>he simultaneously made billions upon billions of dollars
still waiting to see his tax returns. so far, all we have is his words. his ghost writer said it's probably because trump is embarrassed to show people that he's not as rich as he said he is.

also, he didn't make the tv show. just like he didn't write his book, a ghost writer did. he hired people to make a tv show, and had nothing to do with the development at all.

>leader of the free fucking world
usa isn't free at all. no free internet, largest prison population per capita on the planet, slavery is still legal, president isn't elected by who has most votes, only two political parties, opioid problem caused by predatory medicine industry, is on a mere 10th place on HDI, and large economic inequality.

amerifats don't know what freedom is.

>yeah. that would have really made a difference, to challenge the Cold War mentality.
Bit of a difference between the Soviet Union and a shithole like Haiti. No?

>Further, fuck our international standing. No more tip toeing around. Say it like it is.

So, you dnt want international trade?
you want trump to renege on the carefully constructed deal with Iran, and signal that no country should trust the US in treaties, as the next president will unilaterally tear it up?

you thing that the US should be isolated, the only nation on the planet who wont follow the Paris Accord, and so is considered an untrustworthy state?

you actively WANT the US to become a non-entity without allies, without influence, without any reputation?

Damn. Putin must love the help you're giving, betraying the country like that...

He doesn't OWN 515 businesses he has registered that amount of businesses to cover names he will want to use. Common practice for businesses with brand names.

McDonalds owns about 200 named businesses, which aren't in operation.

The last thing you want to happen is build up a brand and then someone walks in with a similar name and thrives on your hard work.

I'm having a great time with it. Everyday is it's own little gift. Wish we could have done this sooner.

He makes very wise and sometimes sus business decisions that landed him on top, he's the smartest dumb ass we know

I'm sure Kanye has a private jet too - and he's fucking "head injury" stupid.

Nice try tho.

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I can't tell if you're just trolling or not.

The Mercer family knew that the low and middle classes were tired of elitist politicians and poured huge amounts of money into making sure an outsider, a "man for the people", was running. They convinced enough fucking muppets that this person was somehow going to be different and the muppets would vote for him solely on his rhetoric. Once in power, the Mercers use their influence to pass laws that further entrench their wealth and control over how the country is run. In many cases, these changes negatively impact the fucking muppets who voted the retarded cheeto into power. And somehow, these same fucking faggots who continue to blindly support the mentally challenged ball bag believe that Murica is some bastion of freedom and democracy. When in reality, the US is a bankrupt oligarchy at best.

>So, you dnt want international trade?
Yeah, no one will trade with the global superpower because the person leading it that has at max 7 years left in office said something mean.
>Paris Accord
Yeah, let's send MORE money to third world countries, and allow places like China and India to use and expand their fossil-fuel industry, while we shoot ourselves in the foot economically. Feel like jumping off any cliffs today?
>no allies
yet again, only world superpower, global force projection, nuclear weapons as a deterrent, several hundred relatively rich consumers, I'm sure no one will want to be our ally.
>le Putin meme
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>biggest moron
That's a gross simplification. Trump is not a "moron" but is instead a blank slate on most areas of policy. He simply doesn't have the knowledge or training required to make the proper decisions. There are concerns about his mental state due to his speech patterns, behavior, and use of social media. Lastly, there are concerns that he may be functionally illiterate with these concerns coming from his own people.
>made billions upon billions
There are indications that he's not as rich as he claims. He tried to be a captain of industry and went bankrupt several times doing it. In the 90's he transitioned to licensing deals where he's licensed the use of his name and image. He was very successful but not quite as successful as he claims. And now there are concerns, legally and ethically, about his business practices employed. He's also hardly self-made.
>most popular television shows
It was indeed popular but wasn't groundbreaking or terribly memorable and the ratings had declined in recent years. Also, it was in the "reality" genre and thus not exactly culturally significant.

Trump getting elected surprised even him. The 2016 election isn't the story of Trump winning, but of Hillary losing. Both of their approval ratings were in the 30's. The country didn't want either of them. With Hillary viewed as the virtual incumbent, the country very narrowly took a chance on the virtual challenger, Trump. Hillary was a truly terrible candidate who deserves nothing but scorn for losing to someone like Trump. It's a special kind of fuck up.

the dude was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His history of shitty deals is well-documented. His stated wealth is questionable in the extreme, and since he won't disclose his financials, it's likely it's much less than he claims and he wants to hide it. Trump was born rich, everything else about him is just a con believed only by gullible morons.

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If Kanye has a private jet, he can't be that stupid. He's doing something right.

what you expect, they make it up as they go

I want trade that is fair for the US, not a give away to improve other nations at our expense.

North Korea first, then Iran. Depends if Iran is fully living up to the agreement. Let's bit be limp wristed.

Not isolated. Respected. Not invited to the table for our cash. Renegotiate the agreement.

We're the largest military force, we'll never be a non-enity. When there's a problem, we'll be asked to help. How did those allies help after 9/11, let's check that list to see who was really with us. Let's check the recent UN vote bullshit.do you seriously think anyone should be able to tell the US where we can have an embassy?

Fuck them. Fuck you for wanting to suck international dick.

Why are people always referring to the "Apprentice" like it was amazing.

It ran for a few seasons with real people getting a semi-real job.

Then they got in celebs so they pay out less, and rely on celebs pulling power to get in money to give away to "charity".

How fucking sad is that.

That isn't successful that is scraping the barrel.

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Umm Kanye may be a bit crazy but the man is a genius. Mbdtf and Yeezus are two of the best albums of our generation if you didn't know.

And where did you get that chart?

Oh, you're retarded. You should have said.

Why do you fear Russia?

You better be fucking kidding.

Why can't he be wonderfull like Africa

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Weak retort. When you got handled you should have left it well enough alone.

Memes and Russia are the only reason he's in office and you know it.

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As a matter of fact, congress reinstated the sanctions before he was in office. Convenient you leave that out.

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I'm not paid for this or in ANY political organization.

Trump rules because your add hurts.

>How do you reconcile these two facts?
Swindling people out of their money or being on TV does not qualify you to be President of the United States of America, oh and by the way he lost the POPULAR vote as you'll recall, or are you also going to claim there was 'voter fraud'?

Among other things he's lied/made false statements at least 2000 times since taking office, care to 'reconcile' that?

In other words Politifact. Listing their credentials are irrelevant. KEK

Yeah, laundering Russian oligarch money is the only kind of successful thing he's done. And even that is about to be a failure when Mueller/NY attorney general get through with him

Tampa Bay Times has no affiliation with politifact, you're a brainlet shh

They're were 2 other candidates you fucking retard

go listen to some hard bass school fuckin gopnik

Look at this brainwashed faggot on damage control for fox news hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Your "news" source is the ultimate fake news, it's a joke wake up

Daddy leaves you hundreds of millions in the 70's. By leaving his inheritance in an S&P500 index fund he would be approximately $2.1 billion more wealthy than he is; meaning he's a total failure at business. Literally doing nothing would have been more profitable.

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You wanna take back your insult?

b-b-but they said they were fair and balanced

Cool. Please send me a complete list of the Trump families asserts and their tax returns. Otherwise, it's just assumptions.

>made billions
His father's stable company continues to produce profits, most of lil don's projects have failed, gone bankrupt, and been sued. Don't know what he has earned because he is violating constitutional law by not releasing his tax reports.
>one of the most popular television shows ever
Never saw it, but it's been fired.
>from civilian to leader of the free
Still having a hard time understanding how this happened other than he drew out the moron vote in high numbers, but most of his supporters are turning against him now.
But Trump doesn't matter because my button is bigger than his button.

I just asked where the source was from and if it was a biased source. It is. Fox News can disappear tomorrow and I'd be fine. Such a stupid faggot.

Good you just proved politifact is legit. I never trusted that site until now.