How can people not understand this

Blaming Islam for the bad actions of a few muslims is no different than blaming white people for mass shootings that happen in America.

Both are equally retarded and not in any way valid.

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Why's it okay to blame Nazism for the bad actions of a few Nazis then?

>Blaming Islam for the bad actions of a few muslims is no different than blaming white people for mass shootings that happen in America.

The big difference is one of them is carrying out the instructions of a religion, the other is not

It's true.

See? Even my local newspaper says so.

>muh free speach
>but lets ban islam.

I don't see white people embracing an ideology which explicitly tells them to kill or enslave non whites

And what instruction is that? To go sexually assault woman in coordinated groups?

Which verse in the Quran says to do that?
Oh wait nvm you were just talking out of your ass

I'm only really interested in it because of the average libtard's shitty backwards logic.

As far as I am concerned, your crimes start by you leaving the desert you were born.

>Implying there is a thing as a moderate muslim

There are many assimilated Muslims in America who aren't an issue. But there are also a shit load of ones that haven't. My family in Michigan had to put up a massive fence around their pool because the savages would stand on the back porch and stare at them while they swam. That's fucking weird. The religion isn't the problem, it is the politics behind it, Sharia, and their desire to conquer the West.

>White shooters are mentally ill, which leads them to shoot up people

>Muslim terrorists are followers of Islam, which leads them to blow up people

Big difference

>Islam
>white people

Islam is not a race, it is a religion. White people is not a race, it's a group of races. White people who do mass shootings often don't do so with the support of a large network or terrorist cell. Jihadists operate in organized cells.

More muslims = more Islamists = more potential for trouble. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. Keep muslims out if you want less violence. If you want women to have a higher chance of rape or sexual assault, import more people from middle eastern countries. But why do countries feel the NEED to import middle easterners? That is the real question. What is to be gained, other than potential issues?

watch this and be proved wrong OP, the violent minority is VERY important.

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You are talking to one right now

The actions of the Islamic terrorists is cammanded by the Koran. The Koran and the hadiths justify their actions. They are following the example of their prophet Old Pedo Moe. SO the whole religion is worthy of condemnation.

Except I wasn't born in a desert. There are 1.6 billion muslims in the world and growing. I doubt there is enough desert for all of those people to be born in you idiot

White people do not participate in religious ceremonies 5 times a day to strengthen their ties with a form of dictatorship that demands ALL people on the planet become Muslim.
Muslims do.
Henceforth, your comparison is rebutted.

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>And what instruction is that?

To spread sharia law by any means

Islam does not demand people become Muslim. The religion commands you to spread Islam to people but there is no compulsion in religion. It is LITERALLY in the Quran

>muh free speech
>but lets ban nazism
Yeah, that's not okay at all.

simple, 95% of the worlds Muslims support sharia law and want it passed as general law everywhere. Sharia law states that any non Muslim follows must convert or be beaten or executed. there for, 95 % of Muslims want you dead. 95% good enough for me not to trust a single one of them.

Let's just casually ignore these verses.

Muslims should be under Sharia yes, because it is part of the religion. You literally agreed to Sharia the moment you joined Islam.

Even the fuhrer said Islam is the Master Religion

>muh free speech
>but let's ban 40% of the political spectrum

It does not say that at all. You could not be more ignorant to what something is if you tried

cuz islam makes people go boom boom
white people make rockets that go zoom zoom

Sure, if you pay the Jizya you can live (for a while) and if you are anything outside of Christian or Jewish you are not going to have it as easy as them.
>taking orders from a book

He didn't have to live with them. The Jews were his Muslims.

>Muslims value peace and safety
>Donald Trump doesn't help. He doesn't understand Muslims at all.
>so called islamophobia is rising

O Canada

He literally wanted to convert all of Germany to Islam, lol

What you are talking about is Islamic Law in a Muslim ruled country.
Yes non-muslims have to pay jizyah just like people have to pay taxes. But guess what, they don't have to pay zakat which is significantly more which muslims have to pay.

I literally can't see anything wrong with this

You're using African American Islam as an example? They shot their own prophet

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Malcolm X was not a prophet. You clearly do not understand the Nation and its history at all so please don't speak on it.

Again, he never had to live with Islam, neither did most Germans at the time.

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>Says that not all Muslims are violent
>Posts the Nation of Islam, whose founder was on record as cheating on his wife with other women in the group and had their most famous/influential member killed because he became more influential after leaving the group
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you"

Do you consider all Nazis to be traitors because a few Nazis conspired to assassinate Hitler?

>Your logic
try again

Why does Allah need your money?
Does he need help with his rent?

Most mass shootings in America are done by black people, it just so happens that these mass shootings are gang shootings.

>religion is the same as race
Get off the internet. You're drunk. This is coming from an Asian mudslime. You child fuckers need to be nuked.

But I'm not against Islam. I understand that radical Islam was propagated by the western hegemony and its puppets because the only thing that radical Islam is more incompatible with then capitalism was the Soviet system of government.
And I understand that radicalism was also used as a tool of placation and distraction as western puppets were installed to facilitate the timely extraction of the resources of ME nations.

And I understand that with every muslim country being run by corrupt puppets of one oil conglomerate or another, and with the proliferation of western media exports, the people in ME countries basically have no nations to hold up as examples while their cultures are actively eroded, and for them, Islam is the closest thing they have left to sincere nationalism, it's their only way to rebel against the west and the east that both vie for influence in the ME.

I'm not against Islam at all. I do recognize that radicalism is a political vehicle and it is being used by powermongers to oppress the people, and that the chief victims of radical islamists are moderate muslims.

My issue is that immigrants in general are being used by neo-liberals to destroy the ability of the western worker to engage in collective negotiations, and to create disharmony, and to artificially expand voter blocs and dilute democracy.

I don't mind Islam per say. I just don't think that we need them here. I would feel the same about lily white christian immigrants if we had a huge glut of them. They are being used to wage war against my children's ability to earn a living wage that reflects the actual worth of what they produce.

I fully support Islam and the right of Islamists to live with dignity and sovereignty, as they define those concepts for themselves.
In their own nations.

But when foreigners in general come here, they come as a weapon of the overclass.

Hahaha very funny. But you can't really be this stupid.

Might as well ask me why countries need taxation

"prophet" = beloved leader, as in he was prophetic, not a spiritual Savior.


I'm not calling him Muhammed you goddamn monkey.

Muzzies love hitler though so go talk to the jews about that dudebro.

Bible is full of those too

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

>a """"few""""
Every single Muslim worships a marauding child rapist, and lives by his example.

Wtf are you talking about. Do you know how far back the NOI was founded. Malcolm X was not even born when it was first founded so your statement makes no sense. I can't deal with this level of ignorance

Why dont you shut the fuck up and go rally the billions of muslims you claim dont deserve to be viewed with suspicion and take care of the ones wrecking your global image.

Until blacks stop blaming whites for their problems, Islam is fair Fucking game.

And what difference does that make?

But at least Christianity has the decency to have the peaceful, new verses override the old, and not the violent ones override the peaceful. The violent verses in the Quran are newest, and Islam dictates that you must allow the new to override the old if they contradict

You're right. So I suggest we ban muslim immigration from the place where ISIS is. That's a reasonable suggestion, right? They're already in Europe fucking shit up hiding under the guise of refugees. Besides, islam and western society don't mix.

Do you believe in the existence of Djinn?

Apparently there is you camel fucker, otherwise towelheads would have dissapeared a long ago.

Do you consider all Muslims to be apostates because a few of them eat pork?

No he wasn't the founder , he was just a key figure within it. He was killed by his own followers after his trip to Mecca changed him.

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Winning post, thank you.
National Socialism was the greatest. Tell me one thing Hitler did that was bad besides lose.

what the fuck are you doing here, soulless mudshite gooks shouldn't be in the civilized world.

I fucking hate it when a muslim tries to interfere in a serious discussions and starts of with that awful muslim greeting.

Islamic terrorists are killing people in the name of their religion because their holy book tells them to.

School shooters don't kill people because being white means following an ideology that tells you to kill non whites. There have been some shooters who killed for the ideology of white supremacy, but being white doesn't necessarily mean following that ideology (and most don't), as opposed to Islam where being a Muslim means by definition that you follow an ideology that tells you to kill.

Malcom X was not viewed as a prophet by anyone you idiot. No one has ever said that.

>"Few" muslims

Fuck off, even if only 1% of them were radicalised and wanted to create a caliphate based on wahhabism, you're still talking about 16 million terrorists.

Just fuck off

>Malcolm Little born 1925
>NoI founded in 1930 by Wallace D. Fard
So change one word in my post and the meaning stays exactly the same, and is no less true. Elijah Muhammad banged his secretaries and made pillow talk about how he was afraid Malcolm was going to usurp him, and repeatedly made death threats against Malcolm after he left the Niggers of Islam, which he delivered on. That's what I'm talking about, since apparently you mudslimes really ARE too blinded by religious dogma to think for yourselves.

Whiteness isn't an ideology and islam isn't a race.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Tell me more about your delusions.

Good luck with being both a muslim AND a nigger

> it's Malaysians feign ignorance to shill for islam on Sup Forums episode
> get direct quotes from Koran and Hadith
> never respond or claim that this is something that didn't know about their religion because they're le secular muslims

yes, salafists among other branches in Islam promote violent warfare against unbelievers.
yes, they're allowed (encouraged even) to rape unbeliever women because they are "captives the right hand possesses", which is basically sex slaves. these attacks were organized similarly to the ones in cologne, circling the victim according to the rules of the modern muslim raping game taharrush jamai.
no, less violent or "peaceful" verses in the koran are meaningless because islam practices abrogation.
no, not all muslims are jihadists but a significant minority is. furthermore, muslims very rarely protest jihad and polls among muslims reveal a large percent of them support it.

now fuck off

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I'm not calling a prophet, I was using hyperbole to emphasis his significance within history. He's an iconoclast to the African Americans ffs. It's like me saying Yoda was prophetic. I'd say that to describe Yoda as being intelligent and visionary in a secular manner, not as a spiritual being.

but thats just it. all white people have been blamed for generations for slavery which not all white people in america even condoned slavery let alone owned slaves.

many people legally immigrated well after slavery was abolished on top of that from nations that had no part in the slave trade

but black people never shut up about "muh oppression" so fuck it hand of one is the hand of all is the law of the land now

>Fighting could be interpreted in a lot of ways, does not mean war
>You have to understand that these verses were revealed the time when Islam was at war, so the verses refer the people they are at war with. Yes there are people today who use it to justify heinous acts but they are wrong to do so. This is because Islamic countries do not need to go to war anymore in this day and age as there are no religious reason to do so

Best fucking post

yes

Oh yeah because all mass shooters here have been white fucking kek go fuck yourself not only that but islam isn't a race comparing apples and oranges

Hitler was a traitor to the white race, but no one seems to understand it

I agree with this. Mass shootings at school is because of mental illness.

Being a part of islam (well most religions) is because of mental illness.

Two wrong don't make a right

What fucking history? Your religion is one of ignorance born from a warmongering pedophile you are in the only religion in the world that needs to be wiped out and that includes Mexican cartel death worshippers

So you are saying to not scrutinize police when we find out about police killing and beating the defenceless?

I would call for justice to be done against THOSE policemen. I would not blame the entire police force or the concept of policing itself as that would be retarded

Irrelevant. Tension is rising throughout Europe, and Muslims will be prosecuted and eventually given an ultimatum: convert or die.

Well, do you represent the entiriety of your race, religion, and culture?

Convert or die?
What is irony lol

No I do not, not entirely if at all

Again your autistic ass is comparing apples to oranges it's your fucking culture
When you immigrating to another country you don't adapt you force your beliefs on the country excepting your fucking pos people islam destroys anything of value it touches you are a blight in every country you are in a fucking disease that needs to be eradicated

Who do you think started this? It sure as hell wasn't Christians raping women and marching in the street calling for Sharia law. Your tiny cult has absolutely no connection to the mainstream Muslims of the Middle East. Times have changed since the 70's, most of the Muslims would probably hang you for coming near their women and being black.

>>Fighting could be interpreted in a lot of ways, does not mean war
>>You have to understand that these verses were revealed the time when Islam was at war, so the verses refer the people they are at war with. Yes there are people today who use it to justify heinous acts but they are wrong to do so. This is because Islamic countries do not need to go to war anymore in this day and age as there are no religious reason to do so

I've never seen a reform on the Koolran since these times of pretended ''war'', or self-righteous conquering of adjacent states in the name of moonman. If they follow Islam, they follow, undoubtedly the cuckran, and thus, are by any means not wrong to follow these verses since they appear in
the kekran, the fundamental stone of their religion. They are actually the closest believers of pure Islam.

And, the Islamic state it's at war only for religious reason. The Sunnis and the Shiites are slapping each other for religious reason. War is to Islam like bacon is to eggs and bacon

I blame Muslims for Islam and I blame Christians for Christianity.

Well that's the problem, because the majority of the people you are trying to represent actually do think they should blame the entiriety of whites and police. Racial tensions aren't caused by the intelligent.

yes

Tbh at a point and time the KKK did represent American Christians on a mainstream level. They even elected a senator.

Of course I compared two things that are different. That is how fkin analogies work you fkin idiot.

1) go post a pic of that

2) Islam adheres to abrogation, so all the "peaceful" verses are overruled by the later violent ones.