How the hell is Loli Hentai/CGI Loli permitted on this site? Its pretty much universally illegal

How the hell is Loli Hentai/CGI Loli permitted on this site? Its pretty much universally illegal.

You all fuckers are gross.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Pornography_Prevention_Act_of_1996
justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-obscenity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors#United_States
twitter.com/AnonBabble

its not illegal in where the servers stay

Name one country in the free world where this is illegal. You are full of shit.

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please don't call the cops on me

America, Canada, Germany, etc, etc.

in brazil it's illegal. shithole country, but yet... but...

moar

Let me start by saying I don't watch, nor do I enjoy loli or shota.

However, if I draw a stick figure shooting another stick figure, am I guilty of murder?

Sauce? Moar!

omg MOAR

Every country with an actual law system. Except Japan.

Where do you think you are? Hate speech is illegal to but just look at the shit that gets posted on here. You are not in a moral place. You are not a moral person.

Too risky. I think they're onto me.

MODS!!!!!!!

it actually depends on what you intend to punish with the creation a specific crime. In this case, possession of pornographic images cointaining children or depictions of children on a sexual context is a different crime than rape. No one is saying that by having CP you are committing rape, but you are commiting a different, specific crime.

But you didn't answer my question.

My point being it is drawings. Made by adults. If I draw a horrible murder scene, I am not guilty of murder. So why is loli illegal?

Again, I don't enjoy it or watch it. Just having a conversation.

You should see how this site looked like in 2012 newfag go back to fagditt

Rofl bitch I've been on here since 2005. I have ED pages written about my exploits surrounding Sup Forums.

Drawing a murder isnt simulated murder. Drawing Loli is simulated CP though. One is pornography, the other is something physical.

when such laws are passed, the assumption usually made is that by permitting people to possess, trade, sell, watch, distribute etc., drawings or representations of CP, you are normalizing such behavior and desires, and also inciting people to sexualize children or lust after children.
Obviously, there are people who believe that pedophilia is a disease or a unavoidable condition, and that by allowing pedophiles to "vent out" by watching such fictional depictions of CP, you are actually helping them to avoid acting that way with real children. Those who believe that are against the criminalization of loli hentai , obviously.

But considering the way laws are usually made in most countries, it should be relatively easier to vote for the criminalization than against it.

>its not illegal in where the servers stay

IP address: 104.16.120.221
Location: United States

Pretty sure you're full of shit there Sup Forumsro

>simulated
Nice way to put a hole in your own argument.
No actual children involved, not cp.

I'm going to disagree with that.

Both are illegal acts in real life. Both are horrendous. You can't say the drawing of one is "simulated" while the drawing of another isn't.

If that's the case, most comic book artist need to be thrown in jail.

gj user well done with that extensive research you did there on american laws in every single state

Then by that logic, the following situation applies:

I enjoy reading comics. My favorite villain of all time is The Joker. Joker normally beats Harley Quinn. He's actually very abusive. He's also gruesomely murdered multiple people in the different novels I've seen.

By your logic, I want to be a spouse abuser and mass murderer.

See the flawed logic there?

Even though the logic is sound the world is not black and white and social norms exist.

That said murder is not considered wrong depending on context - there is no accepted context for pc. Hence the law.

Law isnt just about logic, it is an agreement based on many factors.

Lolis aren't illegal anywhere the fuck you on about. Source? Nothing? Then shut the fuck up.

show me the US law that forbids me from having Lolis

Is selling methadone over the counter freely really the solution to opiate addiction?

People don't just take methadone everyday and then suddenly say, oh wow I am better. Don't need methadone anymore.

Legalizing fake CP under the guise of it being at treatment is absolute bullshit. I am in the camp the things pedophelia is pretty much a sexual orientation but at some point you have to draw the line and say that not all orientation need acceptance or to be permitted. These people need fucking therapy and not a fake carrot on a stick.

>it should be relatively easier to vote for the criminalization
And it would be ruled unconstitutional in the US under the 1st amendment, as it already has been in several states.

wrong

Back in 2005 this was a major cheese pizza spreading site, witch makes me wonder why the fuck you are so butthurt about fucking drawings, if you are such an old fag like you claim to be, it is weird that you are affected by things only a normie or a newfag would be.

You are lazy as fuck. Here is your fucking law.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Pornography_Prevention_Act_of_1996

You guys are forgetting that "crimes" are just a social construct. By passing laws, you define what is a crime and what isn't. It makes no sense for you to say "drawings aren't CP" if there's a law saying that "possessing drawings or any other depictions of children practicing sexual intercourse or in sexual situations is a crime opunishable by 6 months to 3 years of jail time" (I'm not aware of how such laws are phrased in the usa, but i think you get the point). As i said, it's not the same as having sex with children, but it could be considered a different crime.

In brazil, that's what the law says, at least. not rape, not rape of a minor, but a different crime, called "possession of CP" (which includes drawings or any other kind of depictions, simulated, as it says so specifically in the description of the criminal conduct).

>The Supreme Court struck down CPPA in 2002 in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition as a violation of the First Amendment for being too broad.
Retard

see

Well, for one I was in 10th grade then, didn't care, didnt feel weird seeing chicks my own age. But I am not 16 anymore. People grow up and realize some things are fucking disgusting. And besides that this isnt an argument about hebe's this is about this nasty ass toddler shit that always have a 250+ reply thread going on.

you fucking idiot, i call hypocrisy for calling him lazy, you didn't even bother reading the whole thing.

> (You)
>show me the US law that forbids me from having Lolis

That would be this one: 18 U.S.C. ยง 1466A

justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-obscenity

Now how about you stop trying to sound clever, and let children be children you sick fuck.

Oops, sorry linked the older one. Here you go user.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003

>"a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture or painting"

And its amendment:
>The provisions of the PROTECT Act instead prohibit such material if it qualifies as obscene as defined by the Miller Test; the Supreme Court has ruled that such material is not protected by the First Amendment.

This sounds like a thread Chris Cuomo would make

Actually, there are countries in which "painting a crime in a good light" (I don't know how to say that in English, I'm sorry ahhahaha! I mean depicting it, in any way, as something good) is a crime in itself. Here it's called "apology to crime, where apology doesn't mean to say sorry, but it means depicting in a favorable way. It's a minor crime, for sure, but a crime.

Obviously, it doesn't mean that any uperhero magazine is commiting that crime, since there are a bunch of things to verify if all the elemnts of that crime are present (including the eral presence of offense to whatever thing you are trying to protect, intention of the author,etc.)

In the joker case, I don't think it incites the commitment of the crime in any way. Even if it did (more like in a ... the punisher kind of way, let's say), there's always been a great discussion about the relativization of such laws and the artistic liberties artists should have. If someone sauid that a omic book that depicts killing in a good light is committing apology to crime, i guess it would be up to a court ruling to decide if that law is actually beeing violated, or if it should apply only in certain other situations

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That sounds convoluted as shit. I'll look at all the loli and young girls I want. Thanks.

That doesn't even make sense. Fuck, lefties suck at memes.

However, in the case of possession of CP (drawings included), its a different situation, as there is (here at least) a specific law saying that possessing that kind of drawing is a crime.
It's not a matter of flawed logic. it's a matter of criminal politics (each country defines what should and shouldn't be punished). Sometimes there's a lot of flawed logic going on. Alcool is legal, weed is not. the awr on drugs is retarded. cops spending their time entraping people for soliciting prostitution. the way laws are made suck, user.

What I said in a pejorative way, now I'm saying in a true way, go to Reddid m8, if you feel disgusted by a website content it's always a good idea to change your atmosphere, the only thing that intrigues me is that why just now you choose to rebel against it, it's almost like you are either trolling or something in your life made you change your mentality, like having a daughter. Anyways leave your life out of this place, and if you don't now how to, at least do a favor to us all and go to a place for people like you.

In case it still isnt clear:

In addition, Section 1466A of Title 18, United State Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct and are deemed obscene.

....and continues to state....

A first time offender convicted under this statute faces fines and at least 5 years to a maximum of 20 years in prison.

I'd say that's quite conclusive, no?

And once again, in small enough chuncks for the pea brained amongst us:

> illegal
> any person
> knowingly produce, distribute, receive
> or possess with intent to transfer or distribute
> visual representations
> such as drawings
> cartoons
> or paintings
> that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct and are deemed obscene

And just in case that's too difficult:

> illegal
> pictures, including drawings
> depicting minors (that's children)
> engaging in sexual conduct or deemed obscene

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test

>Whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards", would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,

>the average person

>average

>Normies REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I wasn't trying to make taht point, user. I was just observing the possible points of view towards criminalizing and legalizing CP.

also, I do tend to agree that it doesn't sound like a great way to avoid real pedophilia...

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>Actually, there are countries in which "painting a crime in a good light"
There are also countries where it is a crime to deny Jew-created myths, e.g., the Holocaust.

These sorts of countries are generally shitholes and the Trump-Putin regime will "address them" in the appropriate time.

thats nice

Nah actually I just got annoyed this morning that all the fap threads were garbage but there were two hugely active loli threads going on.

Also I can't start shit (have a discussion the way I want to) on reddit without some mod banning me cause safe spaces and shit.

>Alcool is legal, weed is not. the awr on drugs
...writes the guy obviously drunk or stoned.

>where the FCUK are the H key, again?

Yeah, maybe.
In germany, i think, it's illegal to have symbols , uniforms, etc. of the nazi regimem. One could argue that that is contrary to freedom of speech, but...
Also, freedom of speech does not mean that some sort of speeches or manifestations cannot be considered criminal. In the ned, it doesn't seem implausible to me that a court would think that the depiction of sexualized infants is not protected by freedom of speech.

HAhahahahah! sorry, alcohol. In portuguese it doesn't have an h, and i usually type with lots of errors. I'm not, however, dear non, high or drunk. I'm at work.

I think its just funny how safe all these guys posting this shit feel.

Like you know whats happening right? Every time you post your ip and a hash of the image is saved. Eventually the triggers gonna get pulled cause "X" IP has like 1000+ known Loli hashes attached to it.

You all aren't clever or getting away with shit, you are just digging yourself deeper into a hole.

If you didn't realised it you are acting just like a Reddit mod, trying to create a safe place. And really? You made a thread to criticize Loli threads just because you didn't got your fap material today? Because a thread was bigger than the one you wanted to be big? You are one of the lamest trolls I ever found here, you are going to my collection of shitty trolls thank you.

>You all aren't clever or getting away with shit, you are just digging yourself deeper into a hole.
When you type shit post like this, are you actually wringing your hands like a Marvel villain, and cackling? Because that's how I see you, in your 70s-style paneled basement, can of Tab and a 7-11 burrito on your computer desk in front of your CRT monitor.

You look ridiculous, user. Seriously.

Whats wrong? Are you actually upset that someone has a different opinion than you and it hasn't gotten squashed by some mod?

When you save the screen cap make sure you put it in a folder that says "Don't Open, Scary Opinions Inside"

Is a teenager who jacks it to loli on Sup Forums all day more or less likely to molest their little sister?

/thread.

complaining about deranged content on Sup Forums

makes you the dumbest fucker that ever walked, fucked, shat, or died in a bloody gurgle of stillbirth

for your next trick go to a seedy bar and complain about drunks or people drinking you fucking idiots

I'm not upset about someone having a different opinion, I'm just sad a respectable oldfag like you regressed to the newfag stage, btw you are going to my almost full folder 'Faggots in denial' gosh the world is full of them nowadays.

Bait. Get the fuck off my board.

To be honest I dont get where you are coming from with this oldfag/newfag stuff. If oldfags are just burnt out and don't feel like stepping apart from the zerg on this board then this place is unrecoverable. I miss the photoshop threads mixed with femanon whores and their infatuations with sharpies. Shit now when a chick starts posting the only thing people want her to do is write their screen names on their body so they can show it to their friends.

You might actually be mentally retarded

As long as it's not missionary for procreation it's perfectly fine.

>Jacks it to cartoon children...
But its OP that is mentally retarded.

They're fucking cartoons, stop trying to control what people can draw

Drawing lewd cartoons of children is some how = raping and photographing/videoing children. ?what?

Still illegal, shouldn't be permitted on this site. The point of this discussion is why the hell is it allowed on a website with servers hosted in the United States?

If Sup Forums was actually cool with this stuff they would make separate board for it. Pretty sure all the Sup Forums mods are sitting around fapping to this loli shit and that is why its not getting removed.

The United States permits it.

>Sup Forums mods don't care
Did you think they did?

because it isn't hurting anybody.

not everything you dislike or dont understand is illegal

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors#United_States

This is the actual law.

yes

Lolicons vs. Butthurt prudes!

is this the set that youre after?

a group of people i dont accociate with, decided to do things a certain way.
I am contractually bound to follow their example.


no

uncanny valley