The space shuttle program has been discontinued because it was far too dangerous (40% vehicle failure rate...

The space shuttle program has been discontinued because it was far too dangerous (40% vehicle failure rate, 14 deaths) and also expensive af (half a billion bucks for 1 launch)

Do you think we ever have another space shuttle launch?

And yet, they said they've sent men on the moon using a Nokia 3210, with a 100% success rate

reusable rockets and space elevator eventually will come. Maybe a cannon for transporting goods into space but that's just a fantasy right now.

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Of course. When politics, economics and priority decide to take it off the back burner again. These these sometimes take decades to go full circle, maybe not even in our lifetime. NASA might be scrapped and it might be private industry, who knows? But so what, you can't stop progress, it'll happen eventually.

Space elevator is a certainty... But many risks are present... Tornadoes... Hurricanes... Earthquakes... Etc.

No the space shuttle program was discontinued in 2011 due to the exorbitant expense to launch. Then nasa decided to build an even moar expensive POS rocket (SLS) at the cost of billions and way behind schedule - Average cost of a spaceX launch >100mil , SLS launch will cost close to 1bil per launch - Thanks Nasa

Space elevator is a complete fantasy - will never happen. Ever.

The world isn't really excited today about space travel as they did in the 80s. Fucking millennial liberal faggots just care about tranny rights and fag mairrage.

Back in my day the whole world would kill to see a shuttle launch with thier eyes

Nothing to see here folks... Just NASA executives pocketing some extra ca$h

Never since reusable rockets exist. Way cheaper and soon they will be bundled for heavy or large payload.

100 years ago no one ever thought we'd reach space lmao.

There's a whole God damn article on Wikipedia on a space elevator. It'll happen.

Space elevator is the new 'We'll all have jetpacks" pop-sci mag from the 50's. WILL NEVER HAPPEN - it's not possible.
Physics how dafuq do they work?

It dosnt look as cool as the space shuttle

>Physics how dafuq do they work?
Many useable concepts have been blueprinted for the space elevator.

Exactly - just nasa doing dick all to keep the funding coming in

It's defenitly possible, but it's such an expansive construct which pays of only in the decades after it so no country on earth is looking forward to building one right now.

key word here "concept" - we've had 'concepts" for flying fucking cars the past half century. When's the last time you saw a flying car? The fancy diagrams are nice n all but explain to me how you'd go about connecting the 'counter weight" to the base.

The space shuttle was discontinued because it was inefficient in terms of cost per unit weight placed on orbit.

And nah. Never again.

You see Burj khalifa? Now imagine it much smaller and multiply it on top of each other. There you have a space elevator. How to connect it from top to bottom? Only time will tell. Maybe we will developed a helicopter cable of flying into low earth orbit and they will build from the helicopter.

Space elevator is a pipe dream.

....as is even sending craft capable of carrying humans. Why bother? Just send robots / probes and not bother with all the life support expense

Every kg cost about 50.000$ to put into space, an elevator would make it alot cheaper.

Robots can't do stuff huamns can do. Which is why we are sending HUMANS to Mars in the near future. Not a rover.

Except it's impossible

Name a function a human can do when trapped in a life support bubble that cant be done by a robot

You realize, this is really dangerous?

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An elevator will solve 99% of every financial obsticle for NASA. ISS food resupplies, feul, etc

Masturbation.

It's not imossible, but it is risky and requires a huge investment. Risky things and investing usually don't go together.

Maybe I'l wake up with super powers and just fucking fly lmao, only time will tell

Except its impossible.

Might as well say warp drive would solve lots of problems too

It's impossible. The torsional forces on a rope tens of thousands of kilometres long.... are impossible to overcome

Reusable and more expensive,... Who could have tought that...

We are still humans, because producing human is still cheap, we are on the line, that will make us reapers in a while.

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This. If you have all the money in the world, it will certainly be possible. ANYTHING is possible with money. For example Even teleportation. You can hire 1 million scientists 24/7 to find out how to teleport. But it'll cost loads of money...

Ok maybe with enough money the Mormons will provide proof of god

It defies physics. A tether strong enough simply can't be fabricated. There is no material suitable.

Unobtainium overload

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ya, ok robots will do that in time but last time I checked we have the facilities to go to mars now but logistics needs to be done and money gathered, where a science robot capable of doing everything a human can isn't gonna be up and running anytime soon
regardless on your stance on space youre retarded for not knowing that robotics is in infancy still

When you are paid for delivering, not delivery, it take shitload of of money.

>You can hire 1 million scientists 24/7 to find out how to teleport

teleport deez nutz into yo mouf

If no material suitable for the construct it means that the design is wrong.

So you have nothing but endorse spending billions sending humans to mars to live in a tin can... at the expense of a similar value of unmanned probes which would achieve far greater results.

Good logic.

You must be american

There is only 1 design that works

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I will build wooden tower to outerspaca same much propable, don't be retarded, you don't need rocket and even rope to get there at all.

Good luck having a plane crashe into your Lego tower or having a gust of wind tip it over retard

Go back to school, you forgot how to spell

Digging into hollow earth, finding up there is another earth in inside and you get smaller as you get there is about the same bullshit.

40% failure rate? Wasn't it more like 1%? That might still be too high when you are talking about billion dollar vehicles, but it certainly wasn't 40%.

Its not. You just need a cable with a very high tensile strength. Nothing we have can do it, but on paper nanotubes look like they might be up to the task.

The physics behind the technology isnt complicated, it just requires a lot of design considerations. Building the iss is comparatively more difficult.

not to mention all the space debris this tower will be cruising thru every second

Let me help you with some math here. 2 is what percent of 5?

Why? If its anchored to the earth the majority of debris will be orbiting with it

Pretty much this. Humans have built fucking sky scrapers, planes, rockets, etc. What the hell makes people think a space elevator can't be done?

yes this. Only 2 shuttles fucked up and they launched like 100 missions

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Because internal computing power has influence over stupid solid booster design, bad o-rings, and lousy heat shields.

>Why? If its anchored to the earth the majority of debris will be orbiting with it
Assuming all space debris will orbit in the same direction as this fictional tower

If you owned a car company that has 5 cars in stock, and you sell all those 5 cars, and in 100 drives, 2 exploded and causes deaths, then your company will be shut down asap.

because science.

Because tethering on object in orbit with a cable that’s twenty times taller that the tallest building is absolutely comparable to buildings, planes, and rockets.

Why do you need space elevator if you have reusable rocket? Why do you need reusable rocket if you have elevator?

No you need both, because from your launch budged one can create more amazing technology.


No, it's not lego if it ai'nt got bricks.

Also... Dude, how much pascals ever you have ever tried on hydroponic gmo trees?

Simple, plane would get crashed..

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Nanotubes... you know how long and thick this thing needs to be?

It's a pipe dream for many, many more lifetimes.

We would be well.placed to focus on surviving long enough to even see if the technology can flourish. We will be lucky to survive a few more generations with our appetite for resources and planetary destruction let alone a few dozen or hundred generations where we might see efficient nanotube production to the length required where it *might* work

unless IM THE ONLY FUCKING COMPANY THAT CAN SEND CARS TO FUCKING SPACE - Also you don't make sense - 5 cars? 100 drives? 2 exploded? wat?

there's nanoengineered materials that are expected to be able to handle the stress
it's not feasible to make any real length, but given infinite resources it means there's material that could. Brought up as a thought experiment, not any kind of proof of concept
double retarded europoor makes strawman to burn down argument to what humans can currently do that robots cannot. Money wasnt even mentioned.
The acid attacks and rapes are taking their toll

In the span of 50 years, we went from having no planes at all, to going into fucking outer space.

Come back in 500 years and see how far we've come.

You can't say the last part doesn't make sense you stupid fuck

There are 5 space shuttles made you fucking retard. 2 exploded into fucking mist. That leaves you with an40% vehicle failure rate.

Now if you owned a car company and in a few drives 2 exploded into fucking Ash and cause deaths, your company will get sued up the ass and shut down.

Ouch my fucking god, ouch my fucking god. We will have material as nanotubes and we will use fucking rope to get to outerspace.

That germetically incorect grape culture always gets me.

No you don't need at all.

Not if you were in NASCAR. That's normal there

>Building the iss is comparatively more difficult.

...what? Do you even know how the ISS was built? They didn't launch the entire thing at once, they sent multiple missions that attached modules to a core.

When your space program needs space expensive like a fucking mansion high class area, you won't get anywhere.

Cheaper is to abunct people and make them do slave scientist work, than paying them money.

>infinite resources

What is Minecraft?

And disbalancing gravity is great idea soo fucking much.

Who are you replying to... Learn to quote idiot

True kek

And do you know what it does on the different scaled? Because I really don't remember sticking hand out of airplane is good idea.

I simply doesn't have to qoute a retard, to tell him he is retarded.

>You see Burj khalifa?

You're comparing a 830m tower to something that supposedly needs to be 71572000m long, following the concept in . That's just over 0.001%.

2 mission failures in 135 missions. Neither accident was because of vehicle failure and could have been prevented if the culture was different at NASA. That's like blaming my car for an accident when I've knowingly been driving on snow and ice with bald tires for 4 months.

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ok vehicle falure rate over the course of 30+years, i'm talking about launches fag - also if you want to get specific there was only one vehicle falure (Columbia) after it's heat shield was damaged - challenger failed because of a faulty booster which is not the vehicle - so take all the cars ever made and then all the car crashes ever, does that give you an accurate "vehicle safety rate"? No - go back to high school on ur short bus boo

Ageostationary orbit,geostationaryEarthorbitorgeosynchronousequatorialorbit(GEO) is a circularorbit35,786 kilometres (22,236 mi) above the Earth's equator and following the direction of the Earth's rotation."

35 fucking thousand kilometers.

Wow. Ok start tomorrow?

We could construct a large thermos with a hole in the side near the bottom and pump water into it. A man sits in a boat inside the thermos and the water level rises until he is in space.

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Also, I think the moon was a lot more boring than we were expecting so I don't think anyone thinks there's much more to learn from it.

In a different form user. The shuttle was designed to make access to space cheap through re usability. That said, that fucker was extremely expensive and had the failures you mentioned. Spacex, Blue Origin, Boeing are all trying to build cheaper re usable systems.

But the design of a reentry glider is still out there and you'll see more of it. The x-37b is an example of a shuttle that could eventually move a few astronauts.

Not just 35 thousand kilometers, practically almost twice that distance. In that "concept" suggested in , the center of mass has to be at least above geostationary, meaning to balance it out the elevator would have to reach even further out of geostationary.

We aren't talking about mission failures, we are talking about vehicle failures.

That's 2 out of 5. Now imagine if NASA built 100 space shuttles? And 40 exploded mid flight?Thats a high number.

Also challenger couldn't have been prevented... It was rushed sure... But they can't do anything.

Columbia couldn't have been prevented either.

They knew something hit the wing at launch, but it was normal as it happened all the time.Also the astronauts can't see the wing from the cockpit. The only way to save it was to use a spy satellite to take a photo of the wing to see any damage.... But they decided not to since shit always hits the body at launch

The earth is flat and we cant leave we are stuck here forever to learn good and bad. Once you know youare god and you dont feel time anymore just like when you sleep

moon landing that never happened, except for the Russians, they did it.

>Short bus

I'm positive you stole that line from that one YouTube video where the guy is making fun of this woman on the public NYC bus

Not if the vehicles had nothing to do with it. Both accidents occurred because of human errors in decision making before the vehicle even launched.

Has anyone tried this?

Mars is equally boring... Just a bunch of rocks.... Same thing like the moon except it's red...

Not him and I get the point you are making, but saying a failure doesn't count because it was the booster is like saying it's not a car's fault if the engine seized because, well, it was the engine not the car.
The shuttle couldn't launch without boosters, it's all part of a big package, if one thing fails then everything goes to hell as a single big fiery unit

Patent it immediately.

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