Mods deleting actual film discussion threads while there's 100 pedo, blacked, and meme threads on the front page

>mods deleting actual film discussion threads while there's 100 pedo, blacked, and meme threads on the front page
fucking kill yourselves

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Troy is a flick at best

It's an A N C I E N T K I N O thread

If you're going to do the 'flick', 'film' thing, then Troy is a 5/10 film, and a 9/10 flick.

>Coming to Sup Forums for film discussion

You brought it on yourself to be honest

>movie adaptation of the Illiad with no actual gods present

It was an interesting choice.

Troy is a great film. Fuck you >muh historical inaccurate babies, like you were there

probably one of my favourite films, i watch it almost every time its on the telly

>complaining about a flick based on mythology as being "historically inaccurate"

Nigga, the Iliad is made up

It's like a contemporary story of their time

Diane Kruger is the most beautiful woman on the planet.

>no Sean Bean Odysseus movie

Would drink her bath water.

She's beautiful... but I think pic related is more to me

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Why was it deleted?

She's nice. Her best film is Hansel and Gretat: Witch Hunters.

Why were the Gods cut? They made The Illiad good.

>pedo
I see no child pornography here. You must be mistaken. That's also a very grievous claim to make, user.

I think it wouldn't relate to us humans as such... but it'd be pretty tame if the Gods were added in.

i saw one today. i saw a blacked one last time. he´s not bullshitting that stuff happens here now

mods dont seem to care about quality control or following the law. you get jail time for having CP and that shit appears here all the time. its disgusting.

>He hasn't seen Byzantium

Who's your favorite Greek?

>be Agamemnon
>make a sacrifice to Artemis and claim to be her hunting equal
>oh fuck here comes a plague
>offend a priest of Apollo
>oh fuck here comes another plague
>feud with Achilles, end up looking like a loser because he's more noble than you
>get shittalked by Odysseus and Menelaus after ordering that Ajax not be buried.
>go home
>get killed by your wife's bull

>but back home everyone thinks you're the greatest and start calling you "Zeus Agamemnon"

SEQUEL FUCKING WHEN?

Sean Bean won't live forever.

To be fair he was of the house of atreus, and they earned that curse well and proper.

>cast ian mckellan
>worries about sean bean dying

The cunny threads are Reddit poison. They are a neccessary evil.

This is not Sup Forums related.

Please delete this thread and then yourself

You forgot:

>800 years later you are the stock villain of about 80% of Greek tragedy
>3000 years later some German fag robs your grave and steals your dope mask
>3100 years your death is retconned by some Hollywood Jews as part of some 'strong womyn' bullshit plot arc

Agamemnon had a hard life.

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Well McKellen would be a good choice for Laertes but his character wasn't in Troy so it's not really a problem to replace him. But Bean was Odysseus, and a great Odysseus at that, so if he dies then it's hard to establish continuity between the two films. In any case I imagine that any modern film version of the Odyssey would have more in common with something like Valhalla Rising or the recent adaptation of Macbeth than the 2004 version of Troy - which was a pretty straight historical epic.

Historical precedent, I think. There had been several adaptations of Helen of Troy and Achilles already, and I think it's more popular to show it as if it's a historical story, rather than how it really is, basically a high-fantasy epic with active divine intervention at many points in the story.

>tfw no more historical epics that aren't just capeshit with swords

I miss the era when we got movies like Kingdom of Heaven, Troy and Alexander on a consistent basis. The movies were flawed but still were fun to watch.

Achilles' stance on the gods wouldn't have made much sense if we saw them personified. I think the film was better off by showing them as impotent at best, nonexistent at worst.
>inb4 someone tips their fedora at me

But Odysseus doesn't die in the story.

That's because the mods are the ones making BLACKED/pedo threads, or at least greatly enjoy/fap to them.

No, but he does travel to the underworld.

He does go to Hades though. I guess that counts.

ill let you in on a secret the mods are the main cunny posters

>Illiad adaptation with no explicit man boy love
whole movie is full of questionable decisions

Good enough, I suppose.

People are discussing Greek Myth films here.
Delete YOURself.

I thought it was fine to not have them shown or personified. It could have been a bit Clash of the Titans-ish and would have lengthened an already very long film. It would have been nice to have them brought out as a clearer theme.

Troy and Alexander were nowhere near Kingdom of Heaven.

WRONG.

Kingdom of Kino

This. It keeps normies at bay.

It's a shame. Alexander could've been good if it didn't have the worst casting in any film ever.

To be fair those were only three movies over the course of two years, and all of them performed dubiously financially. It's easy to see why Hollywood backed off. And we do get the occasional epic from time to time. We had the Ben Hur remake this year. And last year we had Macbeth, which kind of counts I guess. But none of them make any money.

Yeah that and also Oliver Stone couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag. The film consequently had no identity and was incredibly generic.

>We had the Ben Hur remake this year.
That one doesn't count. It's an insult to everything Historic epic. Now China on the other hand is picking up the mantle.

>Oliver Stone couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag.
That's not fair at all. Its just not the kind of movie I think stone should be making.

we have this thread weekly

Kingdom of heaven was the biggest disappointment though. The lesson of Troy and Alexander was "shitty movies perform poorly". Kingdom of Heaven was the best epic in decades and it still bombed.
I'm not even going to consider the """Ben Hur""" """remake"""

Theatrical cut of KoH was poor and Orlando Bloom was forced in by the studio suits. Ridley Scott had intended someone far more fitting for the role.

>all white cast
I can't wait for the media to put a spin on this.

>It's an insult to everything Historic epic

It wasn't honestly any worse than Alexander. The 50s version isn't that great anyway and was itself a remake of a remake (of an adapted stage play based on the Biblical story). It's actually a bit dull and doesn't really stand head and shoulders above other solid but unremarkable historical epics from the same period (Cleopatra, Fall of the Roman Empire etc.)

Alexander has good battles, sets and choice of actors besides Collin and Angelina.

>tfw you will never go on with your AAAASIAAAANSSSSS

Well that's only 9 people out of a cast of potentially 15-20 spoken parts. There'd be room to shoehorn in Idris Elba somewhere I'm sure.

This desu. The soundtrack was amazing.

>The 50s version isn't that great anyway
Nah man. The 50s version still holds up well today. It's timeless, contrary to the shit modern remake.

>Orlando Bloom was forced in by the studio suits
That makes sense. The film worked in spite of Bloom, but he definitely dragged it down.
How do studios not realize that second guessing Ridley Scott is a bad idea by now?

I forgot to add a goat soundtrack.

It's alright, but outside of the chariot scene and a few other parts it's not particularly memorable. I rewatch it every other Christmas and every time I fall asleep for about 30 minutes but never miss anything important.

I wonder what you guys think of Hollywood making a Mahabharata movie. Krishna, the Avatar of god, ascends to earth, born as a cousin to a warring royal family. As he tries to mediate between them, he realizes that his divine mission is to spur the war so the warrior caste could cull itself. To do this, he must manipulate friends to kill and be killed. Tell me you wouldn't like to see that.

It's honestly way better than the Greek epics. There's so much you could do with the characters.

It's a shame that people are still stuck on Homer. Hollywood (and Sup Forums) are not aware of what they are missing with the Mahabharata.

These type of stories will never get made because it might be too alienating for western audiences and also because it will flock the politically correct tards to be offended by its portrayal of foreign culture.

that or some mayan popol vu twin brothers shit in xibalba

>Hollywood (and Sup Forums) are not aware of what they are missing with the Mahabharata
The west in general. Only hippies and recovering drug addicts read the bhagavad gita, yet every public school child in america reads the odyssey.

It's still pretty weird that the film still depicted Achilles as completely superhuman. One website (source: hypertextbook.com/facts/2007/troy.shtml) claims that Achilles' spear throw was going over 600 mph, as fast as an airplane. Achilles also hit a Troy soldier so hard with a shield he went flying straight into a one of those spikes that went through his body.

When Achilles was fighting Hector, Achilles sent Hector a feet back with a single sword thrust, despite Hector blocking his attack, Hector stumbles and almost falls down. Hector's reaction is shock, as if that shouldn't be possible. This is not mentioning that Achilles cut a Troy's soldier entire leg off with a single sword swipe, using a weapon that was presumably composed of bronze or low quality steel.

Well, they could do what Peter Brook did in his minimalist adaptation. Have a multiracial cast. There will be Indians, black and white people. After that, it wouldn't be any more alienating than any other fantasy movie.

For the other thing, they could make it so the Krishna actor is actually dark skinned for once as he is in the text(India refuses to do this because their actors can't be dark). Also the character of Draupadi is considered a feminist icon in India. Just superficially push this angle and the PC squad will be batting for you. Anyone still offended would be called a White feminist.

It's a pity really. Homer's poetry might be better but the characters and situations in the Mahabharata are far more complex and the depiction of human nature is much better imo.

It would do very well considering the popularity of grimdark fantasy these days.

Diogenes.

Roman Republic >>> Roman Empire

its kino
its obviously too kino for you to see that, with your limited mind

>implying Achilles didn't exist

I want a sequel where Odysseus is traveling home.

I think it was a good idea. The movie was long enough already, and IMO it's incredibly difficult to do the gods of Olympus properly anyway.


>Well, they could do what Peter Brook did in his minimalist adaptation. Have a multiracial cast. There will be Indians, black and white people. After that, it wouldn't be any more alienating than any other fantasy movie.

Since Troy is allegedly in Turkey, it would be very easy to get some darker-skinned actors to play many of the Trojan characters. Not literally black, of course, you might need to invent some characters for that one ("mercenaries from Nubia" or something).

I just want a good movie about Byzantium and Constantinople.

>inb4 somebody links that shitty Turkish propaganda film where the Ottomans are good Muslims who dindu nothing while the Greek Byzantines are degenerate Scandinavians

how long do you think you could survive in troy times

About five minutes.

You're pretty good.

Depends if I could bring my katana.

>that small blurb about Achilles' spear

I thought Sup Forums was the face of autism but god damn that is ridiculous.

bump

HECTOR

HEEECCTOOOOORRRRR

the fact that Sup Forums doesn't discuss this shit just shows how far this chan has fallen

>No Diomedes
>No Diomedes beating Aeneas
>No Diomedes beating Aphrodite
>No Diomedes beating Ares

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jesus christ

shoo shoo back to le Sup Forumseddit

>liking Diomedes the special snowflake

Are arrow wounds to the heel really that deadly though?

Why didn't the archers fire at Achilles when Hector was on the ground?

That would be rude.

It was single combat. Nobody else was allowed to interfere. It's the same reason that the Greeks didn't run up and swarm Hector as soon as he stepped outside of the gates.

The Greeks were over a mile away. lol If i was the King of Troy and saw my son defenseless on the ground I would try and save him. The whole idea of Chivalry is dead once the battle began.

Lel.
Someone doesn't know about the nine worthies, or the Greek take on honor vs. shame.

I wish Troy didn't go with the fake historical retelling and instead went full Illiad. I want to see Greek Gods and Goddesses, monsters, and heroes. Instead what we got was just Swords and Sandals the movie. It was so generic it hurt.

boy u retarded

it could have gone that way but there would be alot of CGI probably not enough budget i guess. what i disliked most about Troy was it was the same old hollywood shit of spinning everything into a love story with predictable cliche characters with nothing to add to.

This kind of thinking results in Clash of the Titans, let's be fair.

Handling powerful beings like It's a Wonderful Life did isn't possible anymore. Scriptwriters won't make it, directors won't bother with it, and audiences will not have it.

>not watching unbreakable
Some people are just on the other end of the spectrum

>Handling powerful beings like It's a Wonderful Life did isn't possible anymore
It never really was possible. It's a Wonderful Life bombed commercially and was panned by critics.