Name an event in the past 20 years that you would pick to not have happened. Explain your answer

name an event in the past 20 years that you would pick to not have happened. Explain your answer.

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9/11

we wouldn't be on the fast track to the police state that we are on now. I'm old enough to remember being free.

Dimebag Darrel not getting shot. (Lead guitar for Pantera)

as a plus maybe we wouldn't have trump as president. Maybe we wouldv'e just invested the money into something like renewable energy instead of a war. Plus the towers were cool as fuck

my bro has had pic related in his room for at least 8 years now.

Same. It's so sad that people in their 20s think this is all completely normal.

Sup Forums from becoming normie infested trash.

The Clinton-Lewinsky scandal. That feels like the point where the politics of division that are ruining the country got started.

Good topic OP.

Most things happen for a reason, and I'm fine with forcing the issue. for example, even though a lot of people hate Trump, he is forcing the issues to be discussed instead of leaving them latent and hidden. As shitty as it has become, even shit like the Trayvon Martin case serves its purpose, even though race relations suffered as a result.

However, if I had to pick one, re-invading Iraq during W's presidency. Lemme contemplate this some more on the tree of woe.

Hugo Chavez dying.

I wish that sack of shit was alive to see the horror he's created. Death was an easy out for him. Fucking socialist pussy.

Oh thats where it started? Typical uneducated Millennial

this. the day we allowed state rights to become greater than individual rights, under the guise of "protection and security." a free society is defined as individual rights > state rights. the patriot act tipped the balance and allowed for the passage of more legislation that added to state's rights and took from individual. america, by definition, can no longer be considered a "free" country

you'd have to go the root of the problem which lies with innovations adopted around 2006.
very interesting I really don't know enough about it to make a judgement.
nice take on things.
tbh the place was already terrible even during his time. There was still hunger and crime and unspeakable things done to the people through the abuse of power by Chavez. Honestly so happy he's fucking dead. I think you could pick something else maybe to benefit a different people from a similar experience.

>160% unemployment
are the fucking dogs losing their jobs too?!
if you going to make up statistics, make sure you at least have a basic understanding of math and reality.

this is older that 20 years, but to me it was seat belt laws.

gvt knows better than you and tells you what to do.

How can they justify this? Well the gvt pays for some of the medical costs, so therefore we get to say what goes. the slippery slope has been very soapy until we descended into Obamafail.

i'd say the shit storm started with reagan and his "war on drugs"

Because it is normal to the 20 somethings. Just like WACO and OKC bombing are normal to the generations before us. Glad ya'll had fun.

reading. its a basic skill. try it out once or twice. read the entire chart, especially the important little tiny print at the bottom. also, the source on the lower right.

First post best post. Think of all the wild shit that’s just now coming out about the happenings in the FBI, NSA, CIA, etc. That’s just the mild stuff on the surface that gets to see the light of day. Back in the 90s the biggest problem we had was the president got his dick sucked.

What was it like back in the old days. Was born in the 90s so idk what heck it was like back then.a all I knew were that my dad had a mullet and the power rangers sky diving

Agreed 100%. They used that as an excuse to ruin what we used to call freedom. The great experiment failed on this day. 1776 - 2001

That would be Sept 17, 1787. It when the US Constitution was created bc states' rights were tearing the country apart under the Articles of Confederation. So go ahead, bitch about the Constitution being a bad thing.

He doesn't mean state's rights vs federal rights. He means the power of The State, as in the totality of government vs individual rights. lrn4context

lol I first read it the same as the dipshit who bothered to post. he has to be the same person as this toolbox:

...that's not what i was talking about and no one bitched about the constitution there ace. and "state", as its used here, is referring to the government as a whole(state and federal), not to distinguish between federal and state governments

My birth

being born

you must be the type who drops irrelevant trivia in conversation in an attempt to impress and seem smarter, but everyone just thinks you're a fucking retard as you completely miss the point and derail the flow of conversation

The invention of the internet
ya'll suck

I'd have KotOR 3 not be canceled. Fuck the book and fuck the MMO

While I'm inclined to agree with you at face value (fuck the nanny state America is becoming -- it's not government's job to keep you "safe" by denying you right and liberties), I think that you're mistaken on the actual cause.

9/11 was just a big and publicized event, but things were set in motion long before.

The Baby Boomers systematically ruined this country. After enjoying sex (swingers, hippies), drugs (Woodstock, LSD), and every other vice on the planet they went on to take these natural human tendencies and make them illegal. The war on drugs may not have been the first instance of it, but it's the one I'm most familiar with, and it started with Nixon.

That was the first step towards "government knows better than you". After that it was one liberty after another being slowly ripped away. So slowly no one noticed.

Hell, most of the recent growth in government is probably more related to the economic crashes of 2001 and 2008 than to 9/11. And guess who we can blame for those crashes? The Baby fucking Boomers.

Of course we're not allowed to go that far back, so if I were to pick one event in the last 20 years (1998 and on) then I'd have to say the election of George W Bush. Not because "he was retarded" or "he started a war" or any bullshit political reasons. But because he was the second Baby Boomer president and if I had my way Clinton wouldn't have been in office, either. Fuck the lot of them -- let's get the next generation in power.

Don't care about anything on this planet enough to change it.

Maybe I dunno winning the lottery or whatever. Who cares.

not failing math class in grade 10

You're sadly mistaken. The main reason they had so much trouble ratifying the constitution to replace the articles was because the states recognized the potential for catastrophe if government had too much power.

Before "Democrats vs Republicans" it was "Democratic-Republicans vs Federalists". The Federalists believed the central government should have more power. The Democratic-Republicans believed the power should lie with the people.

The civil was was started over this shit. It was about states' rights. The southern states believed that local government knew what was best for its people and should overrule the federal government. The northern states believed that they alone knew what was best for everyone and believed that the federal government should overrule the local governments.

Guess who won the war?

lol lets not forget how boomers fuck shit up or create useless/unnecessary industries (or they were contemporary and only thrived while the economy was comparatively amazing), then blame the next generations for phasing them out due to irrelevance/economic stagnation.
>boomers killed accountability and responsibility

easy

Who are the two on the back left?

Plan 1, put the ugliest meanest woman you can find on as your press secretary so that nobody watches.

I don't agree with Trump's attitude towards social policy or his antics on camera (or Twitter), but it's hard to name a president who has been more accomplished in their first year.

Since Trump entered the oval office:

>Illegal immigration has plunged to a 45-year low
>The first tax reform in 30 years was passed
>The individual mandate which was forcing people to pay a fee if they couldn't afford healthcare was lifted
>The economy has been booming (stocks are up, unemployment is down)
>He pulled us out of one-sided trade deals that have been costing America billions of dollars

#1 - 9/11 - seems pretty obvious why.

#2 - Election of Obama, killed the economy, dumped ObamaCare on Americans, violated the Constitution multiple times and flat out lied. He caused the election of Trump by his awful lack of leadership and underhanded games.

#3 - Election of George W. Bush, didn't go after the real culprits of 9/11, dumped even more entitlements upon Americans and so much more.

black lives matter movement as a whole and the ferguson shooting in its entirety if the BLM thing couldn't be stopped

biggest bullshit movement built on a series of intricate lies I have borne witness to

Upon further consideration, I'd like to amend my answer:

>iPhone

Before 2007, computers were a niche realm for the nerdy, the scientific, and the technologically inclined. There were plenty of people who didn't own computers, or had one "family" computer for writing a word document every now and then. I know many millennials may not understand this, but people used to just... not use the computer. They used to do... other things

People used to go outside

People used to talk to their friends more

People used to join clubs, have hobbies, play sports, ride bikes, etc

iPhone alone wasn't the downfall of modern society, but it was a gateway and a harbinger. After iPhone the computer became the common man's tool. It wasn't just nerds playing flash games anymore. It was cool kids posting to their Facebook during class. It was jocks and preps instagramming each other. It was mass exposure to information at a rate the human brain wasn't designed to handle.

2007 was a turning point for humans. Do you know what I used to do every night before bed? I would lay in the room with no screens, no TVs, no computers, and no phones. And I would have conversations with my wife. We'd talk about how our day went, or plans for tomorrow. If I was on a business trip I'd call her and we'd talk before bed. Every night we would lay in bed together and share that moment.

Do you know what I do now? I lay in bed alone. My wife is also in bed, but she's not with me. She's on her fucking phone. Staring at the next fucking baby picture her sister posted, or staring at some bullshit retweet of a retweet of some fake news article. I stopped existing. It's only phone now.

Fuck smart phones. I miss my old Motorola flip phone.

Good job.

>immigration from mexico has been in decline since 2009. More have returned to mexico than come where since then.

npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456685942/mexican-immigration-declining-more-are-returning-than-arriving

>tax reform benefits only rich and mega corporations. Middle class cuts are temporary and slim.

>Bull market existed before trump took office. He's made no policy that would have affected it. If he's added anything effect it's merely irrational exuberance aka bubble

>TPP was not one sided. Trump simply don't understand how they work. Pulling out of TPP was a mistake. He's now trying to secure the very same provisions that were already included in TPP. A new TPP is on the way and USA will be missing out. vox.com/2017/11/11/16637826/trump-trans-pacific-partnership


He's signed a lot of executive orders (but not "the most ever" as he claims). That's about it.

>Obama killed the economy
>what is the financial crisis of 2007/2008

Easy on the fox news bro.

And guess what, the paid russian trolls were behind that one too. They engineered that discontent on social media and the nigs bought right into it.

People still do all those things. Just you and the shitty people you know that don't.

>Back in the 90s the biggest problem we had was the president got his dick sucked.
Incorrect. He was already selling off nuclear secrets to China. He also instigated NAFTA which is still fucking this country over daily. And you newfags crying about the "police state" post 9/11 should read about Kevin Mitnick...

In the past 20 years? So ‘98 -‘18 right? Yeah i would like to stop the 9/11 so the usa could fuckin stop bitchin’ about anything.
Guys we get it, you’ve been attacked 17 years ago and now it’s a mess everywhere but you see? There’s problems pretty much everywhere, so get the fuck over it.

I'm the first poster about 9/11. I'd have to say this is definitely one of the top answers in this thread. I'll build upon your answer and say social media. These things have to be in the top five.

>He was already selling off nuclear secrets to China.
yea because every president since the advent of nuclear weapons hasn't done that to some degree with some nation. defense technology is one of the US's #1 exports, fyi.
>He instigated NAFTA...still fucking this country over...
yea because creating the largest economic surplus in US history is somehow fucking the country
iskran.ru/review/september/usia.html
>Newfags crying about "police state" should read about Kevin Mitnick
...so he was a fugitive hacker turned security expert.... he committed some pretty serious data and privacy breaching crimes and was pursued for it.... how is that "police state" and even if you can somehow draw that conclusion, it pales in comparison for the movement toward an actual police state in the wake of 9/11.
btfo on all points
try again, newfag

if I could make infinite bread from a breadbasket, I would feed all the druggies, too. Until then we prioritize. Fucking dumb ass meme. I chuckled.

This faggot, Christopher tsakalos.

He was one of the first gay students to act like a fucking homo at school.

When he got picked on, he and his mother went to the news and told his story.

It started the gay acceptance movement in Australia back in, maybe 1999.

I remember being in a metal band in high school. He would come in during our practice and dance around like a fruit.

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Only guitar for Pantera.

my birth

woah, you might want to be careful not to cut yourself on that edge

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