*wins meme league*

*wins meme league*

*memes win league*

*wins 4 consecutive league titles in 2 different countries*

went to brighton today lads, pretty nice town.

is Brighton the shithole or Bradford?

Bradford is New Pakistan, Brighton is Gaytown

there were quite a few hipsters and emo cunts desu

Cesc is the first person to ever have 10 or more assists in 6 EPL seasons
He's also had only 11 starts and has 11 assists

Shame Serie A is a meaningless one team league

This is Juve before Conte

*wins every major european league title*

This is Juve after

>Udinese
What went wrong?

To be fair Conte was the coach in place when Juve took back the throne. But yeah, with the structure they have in place (possibly the best not only in Italy but in the world) it was going to happen sooner or later.

Also Conte never made Juve perform in the CL.

Ibra left; nothing to do with Conte

remove juve from serie a and you basically get epl

Beautiful, what a shame all of this competition has been lost.

>Udinese
>Not Milan and Inter
lel

But to answer your question, Udinese memed their way to fourth place twice thanks to Di Natale and Alexis Sanchez (and then got knocked out immediately both times which led to Serie A losing a CL spot to the Bundes)

Remove Bayern from the GBL and you get the Dutch league. Well, ignoring the fact the Dutch still has a team left in Europe

Yeah, going from 7th to 1st means nothing, Zlatan also only scored 14 goals that season, Robinho and Pato also scored 14

nope, if you remove bayern from bundes you get a slightly better epl

Ibra made Juve go from the 7th place to the first? Damn.

Typical anglocentric world view
Just accept the fact that all your teams are underperforming m8

Well, Ibra was still in Milan for their first title. He scored 29goals in Serie A. Career record for him at this moment.

Right, but we're talking about the season before Juve returned to top, where he was losing form before running off to France

>Anglos before Zlatan tore up the EPL
Meme player la. Never proved himself in a good league. He'd flop in England la
>Anglos now
Zlatan departing Milan was enough to shift the whole power balance of the Italian league for at least a decade. Class player la

Really makes you think

conte is a great team builder but he will struggle at taking chelsea to international top level

Ibra's Milan was better than any team he's had to compete with in englel

The Bundesliga hasn't outperformed the PL WITH Bayern so excluding them would be even more unfair. It's like you ignore every other German team getting rekt.

Easy. I mean Ranieri won it the previous season, how difficult can it be

>Ibra left; nothing to do with Conte

Sarri's Napoli would fuck the epl bloody and so would the likes of Dortmund (under Tuchel)

German teams went out to respective cup winners, real and ajax (gladbach to schalke)

This to be frank, but he was exactly what Chelsea needed for fix the catastrophy >mouyes left behind. Motivator and team builder non plus ultra. Who knows though, perhaps he matured a bit and will perform better on continental stage now? Conte is still quite young, just compare Milan Allegri and Juve Allegri. Managers take some time to reach their peak

Is that a Christmas present? What country is that?

A load of bloated shit to detract away from the rest of Bundesliga's pathetic results.

I support Napoli and decided to watch United this season for the Zlatan bantz. Fuck me if it isn't the most uninspired football I've seen considering the amount of money and talent they have. They LITERALLY play on the same level as Inter do in the Serie A (aka meme level).

As it is now, Napoli would destroy United 4-0 unless Mourinho went full park the bus to keep the numbers down

>Dortmund under Tuchel
>Good

napoli sure, dortmund? lmao

They're both Europa League tier, pretty pointless comparison

Dortmund have defeated Bayern twice this season

Tuchel's Dortmund team has amazing highs and horrible lows. Which is why they're underperforming in league play and doing well in the cups.

Agreed completely. Napoli's offence would end up with over 100 goals in their PL season, what holds them back in Serie A and Europe is defence - not like that would mean anything in England. They took the lead against Real Madrid in both legs before conceding 3

That makes the whole EPL Europa League tier then considering your second best team couldn't even beat Leverkusen and Monaco this season

Good night

>all those Napoli manlets getting elbowed by Fellaini

and? they have been terribly inconsistent this season, literally the liverpool of germany.

>this team would do well in my imaginary scenario, just ignore any other tangible measurements of their ability and focus on this one which can't be disproven

What holds Napoli back is lack of quality players, in other words lack of money. You simply can't expect Raul Albiol, Hysaj, Ghoulam and Reina to perform on the levels of Chiellini and Bonucci over the course of a season.

That would also mean about 10 PL teams are CL QF tier.

Why are all of their teeth so fucking bad? Or is it just the filtering on the image?

How is Monaco, a team winning the league and in the Champions league semis, Europa League tier?

They're just normal teeth m8, you're blinkered by the phoney cosmetically enhanced teeth all Americans have

He left the season after that, same as T. Silva and all the old guard

Well, they did get 90 million for Higuain, that's a quite big sum to invest into improving first team. And considering they're now CL regulars, money shouldn't be a huge issue. For winning your group and getting knocked out in first elimination round you still get about 35 million in prize/patricipation money alone, not counting dozen other sources of income.
They're 2 CBs and a GK away from guaranteed 2nd place in Serie A (maybe giving Juve harder time than they're used to) and CL quarters-semi quality.

Napoli's biggest problem, just like Roma(way worse tho), is their ability to perform when it really matters. They're almost both on par with Juve in Serie A, when the teams meet in Serie A it's usually very equal games.
Of course, Reina and Albiol are banter, but it's not really that holding them back

*wins CL*

good bait

british teams could sign entire real madrid squad and still not win jackshit internationally because of how self-destructive the EPL is. It makes you forget how football works, down to the very basics. And every failure will be apologized by TV pundits

how is it self destructive exactly? why hasn't the same happened to other leagues?

>Mertens

more athleticism required
no winter break
league cup congesting fixtures

Why would Roma buy all these shitty players?

>more athleticism required
if pacy players can exploit the premier league why can't they exploit other leagues?

>no winter break
maybe but feels like a cop out

>league cup congesting fixtures
not an issue; just play reserves

Because of how the game is played.
The games against teams like Stoke, Burnley, West Brom, Bournemouth etc. are no decided on the merits you see in other leagues, like technique, tactical setup, but "passion" and grit, aka. whos willing to slaughter the other the most.
There's so many injuries, and the games are so physical that even quality players signed from other leagues forget how to play against non "passionate" teams

Photographer for some reason boosted the vibrance to dangerous levels without adjusting things like teeth etc.

Aka shit after photographer

>if pacy players can exploit the premier league why can't they exploit other leagues?
Its kind of a catch 22; you pacy niggers to compete with the other pacey niggers, but in the CL the better quality players overall are not pacey niggers and you can't buy them because of all the pacey niggers you brought

>more athleticism required

no clue how to pass a ball, so you run it
no clue how to position in defense, you run it
no technique to play a ball quickly, so your forward has to run faster


english poverty league

what's stopping this from happening in other leagues?

also bournemouth aren't a "passionate" team they play like a lower mid table la liga team desu

hmm I wonder who's gonna win the bundesliga next season

might stick a fiver on bayern

poverty league (and country)

...

Dude fuck off and stop rationalizing those atrocious crypt-keeper teeth

Bitch ass nigga gon talmabout "phoney cosmetically enhanced teeth all Americans have". Ho ass.

This, too many players are just physique merchants one way or the other. They often look like good prospects because they're stronger than other players when they're all young, but their technique and brains will never develop.
I honestly don't understand why so many teams put so many niggers in their academies. Their IQ is on average 25 points lower or so, they'll never be the smart players who can perform the tactical tasks they get, and usually they're mediocre technically

There's always an idealized version of football, and that is different from each other country/league.
There is a certain way that brits feel football is supposed to be played, and it's almost always reflected in the teams.
The italians value tactical planning much more, actually it's not even valued, according to Ranieri, who said the players didn't seem interested at all in setting themselves up tactically, so he really had to compromise a lot with this.
Conte is a bit different because he has so many international players, but if he was coaching a team like West Brom, he would have the same problem.

>get this wop in the EPL and he couldn't do shit
>352 will never EVER win the league
>how can memebacks compete with the likes of Januzaj?!

>british "people"

What's the point in being technical if you lose 7-0 every time you play a big club?

The difference in the Premier League is that every club has history and pride and thus wants to win at all costs. It's not like La Liga or Serie A where the little clubs are happy just to be taking part.

It's not seen as the 'done' thing, it comes from the old English view of football as a replacement for war, the players would charge around and not even pass, passing wasn't done in English football until the late 1800s at the earliest, meaning tony pulis etc teams are seen as acceptable, whereas the players would probably refuse to do similar in Spain etc
It's a massive problem in England, all the pacey players get scouted because they tend to perform well at youth levels. I remember a player I played with got scouted by a few big clubs and got loads of hype, he couldn't beat anyone in 1v1 had no passing ability, could barely finish he was just tall for his age and very pacey so looked good against not developed teenagers who tried to play football

It's engrained in English football culture, I agree, but it still doesn't make it less true that this might actually be keeping the league as a whole down

It wasn't keeping the league down between 2005 and 2012 when we had 8 CL finalists and 3 winners

Exactly, notice how most of the new talents coming through english academies are almost entirely wogs, most mulatto it seems, but still.
It's a well known fact that blacks due to genetics have a slightly higher level of testosterone, therefore hit puberty earlier and have an easier time building muscle.
However we(whites) are usually heads and shoulders above in intelligence(IQ) and that actually means a lot in the modern game

your explanation:
>brits are le stupid oafs that like hoofball and everyone hates tactical players so clubs spend millions on tactical players and teach them hoofball because they''re dumb xD

my explanation:
>premier league teams are actually good and the reason they don't do well in Europe is because they make a shit tonne of money in the premier league already and so focus their efforts on that. Clubs like Tottenham and Arsenal literally do not care if they embarrass themselves in Europe

>waaaah Napoli would walk the PL

>waaaah Dortmund would walk the PL

>waaaah Roma would walk the PL

Wish I could filter morons that claim hypothetical scenarios and mix leagues.

too much money, makes the players care less

>sevilla would win the epl by christmas la

hard facts are the least thing britpakis should be trying to summon

as proven in
they don't even care about being competitive as long as they farm enough money for their jewish owners.

the fact that you have no clue about foreign clubs doesn't mean they have no history

belgium's gent has a much history years as the oldest englel club, big deal, nobody gives a shit about either turd

the eplel is like burger king: absolute trash for the lowest dregs of society

The explanation should be found somewhere in between. But it's also clear that English teams do a terrible job at scouting. When you look at the transfers made into other leagues, even other top leagues, like Serie A and La Liga.
For example Darmian, total mismatch from United, was never meant to play in England. Paloschi, same story, not a player for the Premier league. Southampton actually know what they're doing, so there's a few exceptions, but overall, I think English clubs do a terrible job at transfer, and foreign teams know that english teams have a lot more money, so they've actually stared asking for more money if an english team enquires

That was the peak of the EPL's athletic edge over other leagues. Italian teams would barely last 30mins before getting gassed. Now the other leagues have caught up physically and your pacenogs don't scare anyone.

Touched a nerve I see

>The difference in the Premier League is that every club has history and pride and thus wants to win at all costs. It's not like La Liga or Serie A where the little clubs are happy just to be taking part.
nice meme, I wonder if you actually believe this
And same goes to the danish boy
Italian teams show as much grit as any other yuro teams, actually far more than most of europe

Shit like this is bullshit
>The games against teams like Stoke, Burnley, West Brom, Bournemouth etc. are no decided on the merits you see in other leagues, like technique, tactical setup, but "passion" and grit, aka. whos willing to slaughter the other the most.

that sounds reasonable, what do you think the reason for it is? too much money leading to them being careless?

>all the bong bashing going on ITT
Damn, what happened?

I actually prefer Serie A, but it's clear that the games are not played with the same intensity.
Sure, you have teams like Crotone, but still they're not nowhere near as aggressive as Burnley for example. Crotone to a much greater degree play on equal terms with the bigger teams, actually I think they're better than the relegation teams in England
I guess, but it's just a personal observation that English scouts looks for the wrong things, or don't even look at all, like I think was the case with Paloschi and Darmian.
But yeah, I think the biggest cause for this is money, if you look at the amount of signings made each season by Premier league clubs, it's at least 30% of the XI changed each season, it makes it very hard to establish a tactical identity and a good dressing room culture

What a compelling and extremely rationally well thought out argument.

Not enough belgians, not gonna work.

This other shit 'the english league is more physical, the italian league is more tactical, the spanish league is more technical' is such a meme
The PL isn't more physical than Serie A and Serie A isn't more tactical than La Liga or the PL
There is no inherent problem in english football nor in italian football, these things just go in cycles

Go jerk off over your FUT packages kiddo

>they're not nowhere near as aggressive as Burnley for example.
What makes you say that? Any relegation team in Serie A can be as agressive as any relegation team in England
In fact if you are only talking about agressiveness, Serie A has far more fouls and red cards

*tips fedora*
Go watch more Crotone you fucking hipster

you are the one talking about 'pacey nogs' boy