Why does Australia produce so many great actors, but so few decent films?

Why does Australia produce so many great actors, but so few decent films?

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It's because our directors and writers are stunted by our film industry. Basically all of the funding goes towards 'Australiana' films - films based on Australian culture and other boring as fuck shit. But also our director and writers are obsessed with that topic as well.

Most of our good movies are based on true events. One in particular is 'In Her Skin'. It's a pretty good Australian movie, but based on true events.

Screen Australia.

I'm Australian, and to me its the culture, specifically that it is casual.
The hallmark of Australian culture is its casualness, how laidback everyone is. This is in direct opposition to the idea of something being dramatic. Australians as a people are not very dramatic.
That's not to say an Australian can't make a good film, but they either go overseas and use American actors (because dramatic lines read in an Aussie accent are so fucking stupid and come off unnaturally because Australian's don't talk like that in real life), or they make a film in Australia with Aussie actors embracing the casual culture (for example, those zombie movies where the Australian's are just like "yeah chuck us a beer cunt" as they're killing zombies).
So yeah, the Aussie laidback attitude makes it hard to take a dramatic story seriously.
Some Australian directors who've made good stuff in America though

Canada has the same problem

We have a lot of great directors but no good films

The Road Warrior, Chopper, Romperstomper, those are all solid KINO for heterosexual males. I dispute your assertion.

I'm Australian and have a short film in post production atm, our industry is too small but that is changing our government is actually getting more involved in funding films. Which is why so many films are being filmed here now the new Thor and Kong Skull Island were both filmed here and I know people who worked on those sets.

An Aussie directed Assasins Creed.

Also I hear Boys in the Trees is good.

Animal something was great
Mad Max too
Proposition is nice

They permanently gimped the film industry so everybody with talent has to leave as soon as possible.

Gallipoli is great as well

Recommend something good from him?

Already seen

>bloodline (great performace. he lives that role)
>animal kingdom
>killing them softly

Is there any other great movie he's been?

More money making films in the US - both the domestic American market and the international market for Hollywood films are far superior to the domestic market here or internationally.

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Because we don't have a healthy film industry. All our movies rely on government funding and theatres barely advertise/play them anyway.

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there's nothing really stopping a story from being dramatic just because of the culture. I saw The Kettering Incident on TV when I was there recently and I felt like the cop characters were a good mix of the two, dunno if anyone here has seen it though

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>bloodline
so fucking underrated. Sup Forums would love this show i fucking hate how no one talks about it

Too slow burning for majority I guess

The Kettering Incident felt like the abandoned the story 3 episodes in and just winged it

You could say the same about Ireland.

Was Kettering Any good? I watched the first two but it totally bored the shit out of me; and I never drop shows that early and I love aliens and I love debicki and I love Australians.
Is it worth the watch or what,does it actually get good?

Majority are such fools then. Top 3 shows on television right now, bloodline is right fuckin up there

Explain Pick Your Nose & Taste The Flavours then.

t. A Brit

>KINO for heterosexual males

What a gay thing to say.

That and producing films from other countries, we do a pretty solid trade acting as a stand in for other cities. Sydney's not exactly Vancouver, but it was the setting for The Matrix series, The Great Gatsby and parts of the Star Wars prequels.

>there will never be a Ned Kelly movie this kino

>Why does Australia produce so many great actors, but so few decent films?
>decent films

>An Aussie directed Assasins Creed.
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you're right, the culture doesn't stop it from being dramatic, but to me at least, it just kind of comes off wrong.
I think it's more egregious to Australians, because we hear it in the Aussie accent and it just sounds off

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This was pretty good

>so many great actors

All 3 of them?

We don't produce many great actors. We have loads of garbage ones. The ones who made it are just especially talented and dedicated because that's the only way they'd get the job.

Irish cinema has picked up a bit in the last few years, mostly because of Lenny Abrahamson, but yeah, it is fairly dismal.

>t. Irish guy

Yeah I felt the exact same way, I just kept watching for the cops to be honest. To the shows credit when I got to the end it did seem like they knew what they were doing all along, just never giving you enough clues to piece it together yourself (which is a cunt move imo)

I thought it was pretty good for one of "those" shows that strings you along like crazy. I usually check out of them immediately but like I said some of the characters were captivating enough for me to finish it. It does look really nice too. IIRC it's only like 8 episodes so maybe give it another shot

They left it way too long to explain whatever convoluted twist they had

The last 20 mins of the last episode really wasn't enough when they spent like 5 episodes on stuff that barely advanced the plot

>Ben Mehndohlson
>Hugo Weaving
>Cate Blanchett
>Joel Edgerton
>Guy Pearce
>Mia Wasikowska
>Noah Taylor
>Geoffery Rush
>Russel Crowe
>Hugh Jackman

I know what you mean but I think it's more a problem of australian films/actors trying to emulate american drama which obviously doesn't work. I thought Animal Kingdom did it pretty well, same for Snowtown. I guess I mean the story itself can be dramatic without the characters necessarily hamming it up or acting like they're in an episode of 24 or something

Josh Carney is up there

Yeah I spent half the time saying shit like "oh come on" at my tv waiting for them to move it forward. I basically tuned out of most of the scenes with the main girl even though she's 8/10

Needing examples?

We have a shitty arts funding because they'd rather not compete with (((Hollywood)))

Of the arts funding that's left it's all shuffling money between (((NIDA))) and the only topics the film can deal with are (((feminism))), (((lgbtbththt))), ATSI issues, and animals as protagonists.

Reservoir Dogs would never be made in Australia because there's too many white males and it doesn't have some retarded 'theme'.

You can't do things for profit in Australian Cinema, it has to be for 'sharing a point of view' i.e. subtle indoctrination.

Braveheart would never be made in Australia. Lord of the Rings would never be made in Australia. Titanic would never be made in Australia.

They don't have 'themes' that are aligned with the (((arts funding))) groups.

We produce such great content like

>Meet the Habibs

Haha, those rascally minorities! They're different from Anglosaxons, but they're the same in many ways! What a world we live in!

Old movies didn't suffer from this problem.

Late 70s to early 80s Australia was one of the best places in the world to be a new film maker. Government grants were so generous you could screen your film twice to small groups of people and still turn a profit. Basically no risk at all, and there was no restrictions on type of film or content, it just had to be "Australian" (majority cast/crew Aussie citizens and made in Australia).

Obviously this was unsustainable, but so many dumb b-movies were made because anyone straight out of Uni could make whatever they wanted. Usually involving violence and car chases filmed without permission on quiet stretches of road.

>most notable australian movie is literally autistic

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AUSTRALIA YES

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sorry if you feel "excluded" by my comment

1. Australia is an english-speaking country with strong ties to US and England, which both have bigger and better film and television industries.
So there's a lot of competition for whatever we make, but we're a smaller economy.

2. Australians are largely anti-intellectual wannabe blue-collar types that "work hard and party harder #yolo"
We have shit working hours and not much time off to spend compared to Europe, but we also choose to consume shit because of our culture being anti-intellectual, anti-elitist, anti-emotional and glorifying the working class

3. Some Australians rail against this and want to make good films. However, acting is more exposed than other film professions (so more desire to become actors) and acting is more independent of others to establish yourself as good, whilst also highly rewarding if you are. Thus it's easier for a good actor to get films than it is for a good director etc.

No art funding, no real film industry. Recently something like 60 arts programs were slashed by the government

nice thread baiting out all the aussie cunts op
imma contact the mods and do a thread ban soon

Not to mention vet fees cut on all forms of art as of next year.

americans have this carelessness/arrogance where they will set a movie in ancient rome or biblical times and all the characters speak in american accents
we don't care watching it because we're used to it and america is the default entertainment provider

but we can't do that... imagine an australian movie about jack the ripper with australian accents, or australians doing british accents, which would be almost as bad
so we're stuck with doing movies about our history and there's just not that much decent material to work with

OY MAATE THRO A SHRIMP ON DE BAAAARBEE

Because anyone with talent leaves this bogan shithole.

OY MATE PLAY THE DIGERIDOO DOWN THE WATERING HOLE

You were saying OP?

kind of wish he had kept his accent for rogue one

I'm short, we suck

The Dark Knight Rises
The Place Beyond The Pines
Slow West
Mississippi Grind
Exodus: Gods & Kings

All are Mendelsohn-kino. He's going to be in Rogue One and Ready Player One, so get ready to see more of him

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Because it's wrong and stupid.

>where they will set a movie in ancient rome or biblical times and all the characters speak in american accents

Don't really agree with this to be honest, most American historicals I've seen have had english-accents, since apparently english=old.

Hell, America's most popular TV show, Game of Thrones, features predominantly British actors for this reason

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>he hasn't seen Heath Ledger in Two Hands


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>Fucked prime sadfu

He's dead but he lived a great life just for that.

Getting dawons creek preggo wasnt that smart but whatever hes rich enough to tell her to fuck off and just hit him up for direct deposits for 2 decades

he should visit a speech therapist

Acting is easy and Australians are all idiots

that's what you think, but the whole playing up your australian-ness online is a meme itself

They made Razorback which is horrorkino.

As an Australian, how to I get into the Australian porn industry?

And that's one of the best aspects of it. It's nice to see an autistic person who isn't Rainman.

I'm still disappointed I've yet to see any of the Abby Winter girls in the flesh.

They hit their peak in '81

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Australian here. I'm writing something at the moment with an Australian feel and I'm conflicted about it.

I think our industry thinks the Outback and the red centre is "Australian". Anybody see the trailers for that movie about, what, fucking utes doing doughnuts? Jesus Christ, kill me. Kill me.

I'm from Adelaide but moving to Melbourne. (As Adelaideans do). I'm writing something that's got that sort of a Melbourne scrappy street vibe to it. Trying to approach the natural Australian youth. It'll take a long time before it can read without seeming cringeworthy but it's possible, I know it.

Question is, if approached in a well-studied and natural way, can a very much Australian and Australia-centric film still be entertaining? I'm not talking about fucking Kath and Kim or country rednecks, I'm talking about young paranoid city kid Melburnians or Sydneysiders (is that right?) who would never say they're patriotic but wouldn't either dare to leave the country. Australians who prefer Australia to America but sit in Americanized burger joints and say "candy" and "gas". Thoughts?

have you not seen Red Dog mate?

Wake in Fright (1971) is pretty great. The kangaroo hunting scene might be the most disturbing thing I've seen on film.

Also Walkabout, Gallipoli and Chopper are pretty good. Australia has decent movies for a country with such a small population.

There was a pretty cool time travel movie made here and also a cheesy zombie movie which was pretty funny.

The only reason why there are so many Aussie actors in Hollywood is that they're cheaper

Because small industry

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a lot of the talent goes to hollywood to make non Australian films (Andrew Dominik, John Hillcoat)

we have a pretty good amount of Australian productions when you look at it on paper, but nobody really champions them, advertises them, markets them.

Fucking hard. Unless you're a prosti or willing to setup your own proper tax filing business you have to do it in ACT as far as I know.

be thicc, film yourself fucking in a public library and get in the news

why are you trying to write something Australian when you are Australian? just write normally and whatever you write will be Australian naturally

Anyone have Based Mendelsohn stories?
Casting, during production, anything.
I only remember one about pulling out a tooth

Hard sell m8.
Fellow adelaidean here as well.
Perhaps more of a compare and contrast between the general Oz metro landscape to the Americans?

It's because I think our way of being is really amusing. People around my age (22) I think are pretty embarassed about being Australian, but they'd never want to be anything else. Elsewhere we're thought of as macho Crocodile Dundee types but in reality we open niche coffee shops in alleys. We're slowly adopting American culture although we'd never admit it. Our accent is unusual, so are our animals. And so on.

I guess there's a difference between an Australian production and a film that actively looks at these kinds of cultural ideas.

It works for Britain, the movies that get made are full of stereotypes, mostly involving either suffering poor Northerners or glamorous upper class Londoners

here again

I think this is the key. I've watched a lot of American and British films here that try and break down their cultural personalities to try and understand what they do, what they see in their respective countries. There's a lot more to it than simply showing stereotypes.

Intelligent American films don't just show rednecks with their trucks, nor do English films focus on, say, folks from Yorkshire with their whippets and flatcaps. There's something more to it, something about a national personality which I can't experience myself simply through movies. It's about talking to people, watching the news, understanding humour, etc etc. It's a complicated process and Australia just hasn't approached it in contemporary times that much yet. We had Wake in Fright, we had Kath and Kim which approached it fairly neatly, I know it's out there, it's more than just bogans, and the first to approach this identity on film in a mannered and humorously intelligent manner will really be something of a breakthrough.

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Australia's identity is interesting in general. I think a lot of Australians are insecure about being /noculture/, which is why you constantly see people online playing up the way they talk by throwing in heaps of "mate"s and "cunt"s, and why all our movies are about true blue battlers in the outback.

We don't have to pretend to be American but I wish people would just relax and act normally.