Can anybody tell me how untreated cancer feels? I know there are a lot of variables, but say, stage 4 liver or lung...

Can anybody tell me how untreated cancer feels? I know there are a lot of variables, but say, stage 4 liver or lung. Maybe brain too.

>Maybe brain too.
>brain
>brain
>brain too.
It feels like you're floating in a nice bathtub of warm urine with all of your friends

Ahhh. The "brain in a vat" question. I'd live.

depends on how lucky/unlucky you are. sometimes the tumor ends up pressing up against a sensitive nerve, which means you're going to be commonly bashing your head against concrete to try to knock yourself out to stop the pain until you finally pussy out and go to a hospital.

other times it's not bad and you just get tired, feel sorta shitty, and don't eat.

>pic related its cancer

I didn't mean totally untreated. Just inoperable with no chemo or radiation.

like bags of sand

salty milk and coins

Would be nice it was all tits to death.

Got stage 3 liver. Had MRIS all over. Did biopsy on a fucking anal mass tho morning.

Sup Forums IS cancer

Advanced cancer forces you to substitute O in place of usual endo

No two cases are the same.
Stage 4 some people actually have no symptoms at all. Some stage 2 can feel sick af.
Too many variables, impossible to have one size fits all when it comes to ca.

So sometimes it is relatively painless until death?

They never show the little bald headed cuties writhing in pain.

It really depends. My grandmother had stage 4 melanoma. She went through treatment but most of us knew it was pretty much terminal at that point. She lived for about a year, never really had any pain. She lived at home with us during that time and when she went into hospice care she still lived with us so she didn't have to die in a hospital bed. The night before she died she seemed fine, no pain, was talking and acting fine (for someone with stage 4 cancer...), then not even 12 hours later she started dying. Her body began to shut down and you could tell it was extremely painful. She basically laid there moaning the whole time, couldn't speak, couldn't make eye contact. She was pretty much dead at this point they said but she just kept moaning and saying "no, no, no". It was horrible to watch. Finally enough of the morphine kicked in and she just stopped breathing.

tl;dr depends on the cancer and when your organs start shutting down it's absolute hell

Yeah, it's rare but possible.
Think of someone like Lemmy from Motorhead. Felt a little bit tired, went to his doctor for check up, they took blood, came back to him 'dude, your body is fucked, completely riddled with cancer, there's nothing we can do, you will die from it.'
He said, fuck it I've had a brilliant life, no complaints. He went to his favourite bar, had a few whiskeys. Said goodbye to his friends, made peace with them. Went home and was dead three days later.

Then you get other people who shit blood and mucus, stomach cramps for six months. Go to doctor find out they have bowel cancer. Do ongoing treatment, nothing fixed, things just go on. Months, years down the track still having a shitty life crapping themselves in public, sleeping 14 hours a day, only able to eat crackers and water. Eventually bowel removed, colostomy bag installed. Getting more tired and unwell. Cancer becomes metastatic, moves to lungs, pancreas. Now have 18 months to live. Then there's that long slow painful degrading exit.

Thanks. I'm trying to decide between quantity and quality of life. So that helps.

that ass is unreal

my dog is in terminal lung cancer phase right now
has trouble breathing at times, cough attack every dawn, this is how you die

i can't tell you how it feels, but i can certainly tell you how it looks. My dad just died of agent orange caused liver cancer 2 days ago. His doctors at UVA tried doing radioembolism or w/e, little radioactive beads in the blood vessels around the tumors. It went away for a while, and he felt better, but then it came back, and they said the chemo wouldn't be effective and it was inoperable, nor was he a candidate for a transplant. Over the course of about 6 months, he went from his normal self down to a skeleton. He was melting in front of me. Turned into skin and bones, lost control of his bodily functions, was shitting and pissing on himself, when he actually had anything in his system to expel. None of us minded helping clean him. Eventually he got to the point where his muscle mass was pretty much gone. He couldn't even roll over in bed to get comfortable. The night before he died, he called me upstairs a total of nine times, saying he couldn't breathe and wanted to roll to one side or the other, and was in a fair amount of pain. We got him hooked up to oxygen, then on his last day, he plummeted in about 5 hours. He looked like a zombie, taking short breaths, gasping for air, until his breaths became further and further apart, then he passed with all of us around him. So to answer, I'd imagine it's not pleasant, and it's no prettier for those around you. If you can get it treated, spare no expense, get it taken care of.

I'm thinking that once my organs start to shut down, I'm just gonna stop eating but still drink liquids while I can. Tho Hyerdall? type situation.

OP here. Gotta be shooped. I found it while looking for Morman girl porn.

if you want to maintain quality of life, you need to continue eating. If it's liver cancer, you need to keep up your strength with food, but also make extra effort to shit it out later, otherwise ammonia builds up in your blood and you'll go into what they call a Hepatic Coma, loss of brain function from the toxins. You may end up being put on something called Lactulose, it attaches to the ammonia and aids in expelling it with your waste.

well it's a great one nonetheless, got me all hot and bothered

You just described my fathers slow and painful death. Add to that, that he lost more and more of himself as the pain took over, ended up a skinbag with twigs, shivering and moaning in pain. His last 3 months were an agony I have never seen anyone suffer more than minutes but it just went on and on, despite the morphin and other drugs.
Not gonna go that way myself.

I'm pretty much worried about mental decline the most. Friend's mom died from hep C. She went dangerous bat shit for her last 4 months.

This is what I fear more than insanity. I would truly want someone to put me down with with opiates if it gets like that.

What would be the funniest of all the cancers? I figure it would be ass cancer.

I was hoping more to get hit by a car. Fast kinetic nothingness.

The "pain in my ass" jokes would get old.

Thanks folks. Was looking for some reality checks but got keys too. Sup Forums forever!

*keks, godammit

I figured the cancer would produce some interesting, raucous, funky farts.

My breath already smells like dogshit. If I have to push to fart, it feels like my liver is actually gonna bust. Dull, pressure type pain.

What's your expected outcome? Are you on the way out? Also how old are you?

41y.o. "Between stage 3 and 4" liver cancer. Average 1.3 year without chemo drugs. Maybe 2 years with. Not a transplant canidate.

> 41.
Fuck, same age as me.
Dude. Wish you an easy ride out.

Not gonna give any false 'oh that's so sad shit sucks' bullshit. Hope you are cool you made it this far. Reality is we all could've easily been killed hit by cars or drowning in the bath as 3 year olds.

I would try alternative treatments as well then. I mean, what do you have to lose? Super blood treatments or oxygen therapy, for example.

Lots of variables, mostly painless. You feel tired and occasionally will be nauseous and throwing up . Than one night you go to sleep and never wake up.

Bump because this shits interesting to me

The money is an issue. Have decent insurance, but they won't pay for "unproven" shit. As things stand, I'll be leaving 15yo and wife with okay house, $250000 insurance, a few guns and a 2014 Nissan truck. Pretty good first ride for me boy.

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Nice quads

0000opiates

when your organs begin shutting down it is extremely painful, anything interfering with your heart or lung function will be extremely painful

hopefully the attendee will be able to dose you with enough morphine that you die with some ease

chances are thought they won't be there when you crash, if you're lucky you will be in a coma already

I hear ya. I'm sure your family would much rather have you around but it is what it is, I suppose. I would still research and try different things. I mean ffs, I would eat tree bark and drink sloth piss if it meant I could stick around for a while.

Mail me at ezgetsmail at gmail if you want someone to talk to about it.

Are you talking about cancer? Go back to your TV program, dude. You have no idea.

Yeah. Wanna be gone before that shit show. I actually had the fucking flu and made it through. Was peripherally hoping that that that fever would end me.

Will you try dmt or psylos? To deal with the death?

Ha! Speaking of treebark, my sister suggested ayhuasca? in peru.

Honestly, you should plan your suicide now.
You might not feel any pain from the cancer, but the odds aren't good.
If there's anything you really wanted to do all your life, you should do it now.

Guns are the best option for a quick death, though they might not be available to you in your country.
If they are, put the barrel in your mouth as far as you can and point as high as you can.
If they aren't, find a building that's at least 20 storeys tall, and fall on your head.

You got your kid out to the adulting years and had a good run overall. Hope you can finish the bucket list up and find some peace before the end user.

Yep. Did shrooms when young. As per above post, people are beginning to offer the means.

It's in my thoughts, but then I wonder if even pain is better than nothing. I can't decide which would pain my family more. Watching me suffer, or brains on the wall.

Thanks ya'll. OP out. The one time I brought something serious on Sup Forums, and you guys were helpful.

I don’t about brain or lung but when my best friends mother died from stage 4 liver, it was pretty awful. Towards the end your body can no longer retain moisture of any sort. She was bleeding through her skin, her bed sheets looked like a light colored blood pool. She basically dissolved to death. And the pain was unbearable, for 48 hours at the end she didn’t sleep or eat, and she was unable to speak. She just screamed. For two days straight. Just a constant moaning with intermittent screams.

I will never forget the sound.

Either way it's going to feel a lot better than the same with chemo or radiation

The treatment is what finishes a lot of people or makes them simply choose to stop being treated

Have him put down you fucking monster