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Which is better the NIV or the ESV?
It usually depends, people will argue the quality of the translations, others will argue the validity of the translations themselves.
I read a Catholic Bible myself.
Do your catholic bibles come from the Greek Septuagint?
>Jesus
Is the antichrist
>I bring freedom
Then goes and forbids everything
What freedom do you jesusbois have?
Actual believer here, I believe in God I believe there's a christ, I just hapen not you believe YOU.
Yes and No.
You have to remember that Catholic Bibles contain what would be considered non-canon or apocrypha by Protestants. So some of it is from the Vulgate, coming from Hebrew text.
I'm pretty sure that modern translations try to use both the Hebrew and the Greek anyway.
It often depends.
>forbids everything
What do you mean, friend?
Okay, any evidence to back that claim? Or do you just personally believe that as dogma without any scriptural evidence.
>Protestants are welcome
I'm Catholic myself.
I welcome Atheists too. I'm not going to try to exclude anyone.
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Hail Satan
Okay.
Who is best Pope?
I need to read more of the Septuagint cause that's what Paul and the apostles used to reference the Old Testament.
Hail Satan 666
Of course, the Septuagint is essential. Greek was a universal language back then.
Satan is Going to lose and go to hell, he wants you to follow him, and he cares nothing about you
You're going to Hell
I was, but my sins were paid for on the cross
He's a literal Fedora who thinks he can trigger us with anime pron.
Ignore him desu famalam.
Hello, cucktians, did you washed dirty, smelly, moslem feet today?
Should I be upset that it's sinful or that he is defiling anime
I just like anime porn actually, nice try christcuck.
And who told you that your sins are forgiven? You're going to Hell buddy.
I'm not catholic
Reminder: Christianity is Cuck™: the religion.
Joseph got cucked by god and he is a saint now.
Adam got cucked by Cain, who fucked his wife, Cain's mother, after he killed her favourite son. Imagine that?
The Bible did, and Gods wrath is upon you, repent,
>thread theme is 4 minutes
pleb.
You'll be cucked pretty hard when you stand before God
You can't get people into hour long gregorian chants right away user.
Did the Bible speak to you? Did you follow the "steps to repenting" very carefully? LOL
Neither.
REMINDER:
Christians are not allowed to defend themselves against evil. You are the ultimate cucks. If someone wants your wife, you are required by Jesus to prepp the bull.
Matthew 5:39-40:
38You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you NOT TO RESIST AN EVIL PERSON. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well;…
Your priesthood will rebuilt your churches to mosques and refugee centers and there is nothing you can do about it.
God Grants you repentance via the Holy Spirit, you need to get on the ground beg for it
Your an idiot, and in the bible context counts, so try again, or a million rapefugees will descend upon your women
Trump is the second coming
Cristianity was created by jews as a religion for good goyim, to keep them meek and subservient.
>Psalm 144:1
Praise the LORD, who is my rock. He trains my hands for war and gives my fingers skill for battle.
>Luke 22:35-36
Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you out to preach the Good News and you did not have money, a traveler’s bag, or an extra pair of sandals, did you need anything?” “No,” they replied. “But now,” he said, “take your money and a traveler’s bag. And if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one!
That's worked well in the US, :>)
>Okay, any evidence to back that claim?
Yes. You can't do miracles and you should be able to.
Last I checked fucking was an invention of God.
ALEXANDER VI
What about:
>But I tell you NOT TO RESIST AN EVIL PERSON.
Is open to interpretation, faggot?
Also, it is you're an idiot. (but I guess that you already know that, given the poor education system in america...)
Also, don't you have some muslim feet to lick, cuck?
And my favourite
>Jeremiah 8:8
The bible is a lie as the law was changed
>but try to be constructive
Buddy what you guys have that's broken isn't something that can be fixed
I have an easy interpretation.
There's no point in arguing with someone who won't listen to reason.
Like you for example. You aren't here to reason with people. You're just here because you have an edgy angst against Christians.
Sure, it is totally useful to have battle skills when you are not allowed to us them.
Or sword for that matter.
Exodus 20:13
You shall not kill.
>threatens someone with something they don't believe in
Not an argument.
Im just pointing out that you are a member of the most cucked cult on the surface of this earth.
I'm not going to beg to something that's not even there.
Everything is open to interpretation to satan, you see, he rewrote the bible, so in order not to have to follow his own lies he pretends he's interpreting them.
But if an enemy (a human) is considering these words, they become literal this instant.
Nobody should trust a "holy scripture" that consists on hating on mankind and its nature to the most basic level, meaning that it already speaks ill of us because of sex and pig eating.
Very clearly rewritten by a demon.
Exodus 20:13
"You shall not murder"
There is a difference.
>Luke 11:21
“When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed"
As if the Bohemians have any right to talk about surrendering or being cucked?
>BELIEVING IN JUDAISM 0.2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
Jews + Christians = together for refugees and multiculturalism
Jeremiah 8:8
>inb4 cherrypicking translations
> he rewrote the bible
proof needed
Aren't you the guy who believes in hedonism and is amoral?
That's basically why you believe what you believe.
You have no scriptural evidence. You have no historical evidence to your claim that the scriptures were changed.
You have opinion which is backed up by NOTHING.
I've seen you before.
Well but what you do when evil men come to your house and slap you? Will you defend yourself or turn the other cheek, as a good goy-cucktian should?
You are pathetic.
Maybe I'll just follow the example of the strong Czech people.
What does jeremiah 8:8 say.
The moment you cherrypick a translation you're proving that the bible is constantly, not just once, rewritten.
See
Christianity. KEK™: the religion.
All of you are either meek pussies or not a christians.
This has no bearing on the fact that your religion is cuck™: the religion
>Is open to interpretation, faggot?
No, it's not open to interpretation. There is only one way it is to be taken.
The whole lesson that line is a part of is about not returning evil with evil. To seek the good of things in spite of the evil that people do to you. This doesn't mean let do what they will because what they do is part of the evil that's discussed. To not resist an evil person is directly in reference to the teaching of "an eye for an eye" and meant to overtake such a judgement.
That's why it reads:
>“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person.
Anybody here have good reading material on seeking the heart of god?
Jeremiah 8:8:
>How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
DUDE ARE YOU EVEN SERIOUS
How can you base a whole argument on this shitty piece of text?
it means litterally NOTHING
You may as well be Islamic then.
What are the Crusades exactly?
Everything you are talking about is misinterpretation.
You're spamming is a result of you projecting your anger against Christianity.
If you didn't care you wouldn't be here.
What has made you so bitter?
"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of God," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
My bible says a different thing than yours, it looks like somebody's rewriting bibles, just like I said.
Christian = cuck
What does your Bible say?
You have one?
Could you post pics?
Socrates: Then we ought not to retaliate or render evil for evil to anyone, whatever evil we may have suffered from him. But I would have you consider, Crito, whether you really mean what you are saying. For this opinion has never been held, and never will be held, by any considerable number of persons; and those who are agreed and those who are not agreed upon this point have no common ground, and can only despise one another, when they see how widely they differ. Tell me, then, whether you agree with and assent to my first principle, that neither injury nor retaliation nor warding off evil by evil is ever right. And shall that be the premise of our agreement? Or do you decline and dissent from this? For this has been of old and is still my opinion; but, if you are of another opinion, let me hear what you have to say. If, however, you remain of the same mind as formerly, I will proceed to the next step.
you may find it easier to have one on one discussions in person with someone who is religious.
I can forward you to a website that has lots of translations, the translations seem to disagree with each other, this again, proves my point.
www.biblehub.com
Why does one translation of the bible disagree with the other?
>the ones I don't like are fake!
How are you proving true the ones you like?
>I say so
Wow, so believable, do a miracle or get ignored, it's this simple.
Yes.
In what respect however? A philosophical understanding of such a thing? Texts on the spiritual life? If the latter, how much do you know on the topic?
>best pope?
the orthodoxy has like 20 of them, ask them. catholics have 1, protestants understand that you dont need a high priest covering the house of God.
I get what you're saying.
But what I understand is that you believe that hedonism is acceptable.
On what grounds do you claim that this is so?
Is it just your opinion? What backs up your claims?
Sure, so please stop resisting, accept the rufugees and prepp your wife, like a good cucktian should. lol.
Pic fucking related. Only thing crusades achieved was giving Constantinopol to the filthy turks. They lost everything and were heretics.
Crusades are shit. And your religion cucked.
Wrong board retard
(you can click on that)
forgot the pic
>you may find it easier to have one on one discussions in person with someone who is religious.
Possibly, though having reading material helps.
So what are you? Atheist?
>you have a bible
this poor soul has no bible and has no righteousness in his heart.
>Implying that the body politic of Christianity isn't relevant to Sup Forums
The haters really seem to come out at night.
Why the fuck would I? It serves the common good better to improve their situation in their homes rather than them come to us.
Of course he is. He's just one of the modern destructive types.
ITT: Christ is cuck.
reading the core gospel (mathew mark luke and john) is a good start, takes a half a day. almost any church would probably give you free reading material. if i was walking into service and you asked me i'd give you my personal bible if only you would read it and find the lord.
>On what grounds do you claim that this is so?
The enjoyment of humans and their freedom is an acceptable thing by common sense, slavery of humans and unhappyness is unacceptable by common sense.
Before you speak, consider that you may be safe in your home now, but this won't be so forever.
I don't like this pope. Right from the start he started saying thing that were too good.
And now what he says is like what I'd say as fallen as I am. Does anybody have a reason for me to believe him to tell me the time of day, I do I understand correctly that what matters is between me and God?
>Implying that the body politic of Christianity isn't relevant to Sup Forums
It isn't, at all.
Fuck off newfag, you're using greentext wrong.
if not for the crusades, the muslim invasion of today would have occured a thousand years ago. you should just believe memes, become a student of history yourself. it really will benefit your outlook on life!
Bibles have been translated and rewriten for over 1800 years you stupid inbred! How can you trust a single version? they will ALWASY differ!
Most of Jesus' life has been wtitten nearly 200 years after his death!
The Bible and the New testament is most likely a litteraly style before anythign else, like I could use Goku as an example for life lessons in many diffent parabolas to explain how to behave
you have the brain of a child if you take the bible as the litteral word of god, no better than muslims thinking that a guy tripping out in his tent in the desert gave them the REAL word of god
You either believe in the Five Solas and SEA TULIP or you're in error.
'Five Solas'
Bible alone
Christ alone
Grace alone
Faith alone
Glory to God alone
'SEA TULIP'
Supralapsarianism
Eternal Justification
Active Decree
Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints
Nobody likes this Pope, we're reaching end times in my opinion. But we've had bad Popes before, and we'll prevail against this one.
That shouldn't stop you from following God.
Remember that the main thing is that you follow God with all your heart. God doesn't turn away people who actively seek him.
Translation work consists on making russian be understandable to english people, not on making a russian novel about astronauts who save puppies be about terminators who murder kitties.
I once thought like you user, but if you read what he supposedly said, a lot of it is stuff like "treat fellow man how you would want to be treated' which alongside the belief that god is present in all things, literally translates to 'treat others as if they were yourself. For god is in me, and you and your neighbour and so on.
Tldr modern society has taught us to take things to literal and we miss the metaphors. Hence atheism.
>Common sense
A vague abstraction takes precedence over the word of God? Common sense should tell you that's fucking dumb.
How is that relevant to the levels of ckoldry in your religion?
Did you noticed that they are huge?
How do you feel about churches hosting muslim refugees?
How about churches being rebuild to mosques, because christians and jews imported so much muslims and the churches are empty anyway because your religion is dying?
Did you know that only gains your religion has recently is in black africa? Thats why your holy father licks their dirty feet.