Is he right?

Is he right?

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no 90s basketball is 100000% more competitive than the garbage thats on the court right now.

No way. The Jazz, at the very least, were seriously tough.

how many hofers and how many rings that team have?

Wouldn't that mean the top teams are better at the expense of the next tier? Also>comparing eras with different rules and prevalent strategies

>Magic Lakers
>Malone and Stockton Jazz twice

>3 great teams
>lebron beat them on his own

An injured Golden State team which involved the NBA suspending Green a game for the most trivial bullshit?

An extremely, extremely young Thunder team? Cowshit is a dumbass who's trying to associate the players on that roster in their current form (Durant, Westbrook, Harden).

A Spurs team which required a wacky last second Ryan Allen 3 pointer to squeak by & get a game 7? LeBron didn't make that 3 pointer.

This only becomes a conversation if Lelbron can win 6.

Dumb argument. The teams he faced have no rings because of Jordan, but because they were bad

Two Hall of Famers and one of the best coaches in NBA history.

>how many titles do they have
zero, thanks to Jordan.

Not*

>magic lakers
not the team people think when they say that

how many chips that jazz team get, shit how many 60 win seasons?

>Kicking another player in the nuts after you've been warned is trivial
>Injured team
>Thunder w three players who were later MVP tier
>Trying to discredit beating those Spurs in any way when LeBron was the best player in the series.

If you are going to argue against it, don't go down looking do stupid

It's a leaf, what do you expect

>Regular season matters
They had 64 wins then 62 in the years they faced Jordan

>the hairy peepee state of Houston

>basketball
whom cares

Jordanfags just can't help but hold onto the past. LeBron is greatest basketball player we've ever seen, and only blue pills still see it any other way

Jordan and the bulls beat
> 91 lakers
> 97 jazz
> 98 jazz

There are 3 nba teams with all time great HoF talents

91- Magic who had HIV
92 - Blazers led by Drexler (literally who?)
93 - Fat boy Charles Barkley

96 - Supersonics (meme team)
97- Jazz (team with good individual players, sort of like 2012 OKC)
98 - Jazz again

Stockton+Malone Utah Jazz was an alltime great team that would have dominated any other era besides the Jordan era. You had a top 5 all time PG in Stockton and a top 5 alltime forward in Karl, plus very solid role players.

LeBron would have gotten destroyed by Malone on his first drive to the hoop, cried and complained to the refs, then proceed to shit the bed and act scared the entire rest of the series.

>Jordan needs 15 hall of famers to beat anyone halfway decent

>LeBron defeats all time great teams with scrubs from the YMCA

Really gets the noggin joggin

do you watch basketball?

Jordan league the league in win shares mate and was the only player who could get above 20ppg

>2012 Thunder was better than 92 Blazers, 93 Suns or 97-98 Jazz
No. Way.

2016 Warriors and 2015 Spurs may have been better teams than any team Jordan has ever faced in the Finals, but saying MJ never beat a great team at this level is just plain wrong.

Reminder that the Bulls would have swept Cleaveland and Miami and Golden State and every other "team" they call great now

Jordan had only pippen for 3 of them and then rodman and pippen for the other 3.

Lebron played with bosh and wade for 2 of his rings.

Lebron is playing with Love, JR smith, and Irving.

Shut the fuck up kiwi. You dont know shit

if they were from each era you are definitely wrong

they couldn't keep up with the 3

>Rodman
Seriously declined after 1996 season. Pippen was great defensively but was not the same offensively as having Kyrie and Love

I didn't want to believe it, but the more I thought about it, the more I think the bastard is right.

>1 less DPOY
>1 less MVP
>3 less Championships
>3 less Finals MVPs
>4 more losses on the biggest stage, the Finals
>4 less All-NBA defensive teams
>9 less scoring titles
>3 less Steals Leader titles
>2 less Dunk Contest titles
>1 less All-Star game MVP

The nigger beat Magic Johnson.

It was the entire team minus Jabbar. They were getting old, but still a outstanding team.

As a rule of thumb, if Colon Cowturd is talking about anything except gambling on NFL games (and even then, he almost always goes with the lines Vegas puts out), he is wrong.

Magic was 30. Two years younger that what Lebron is right now.

>tf
>tp

>The Suns w Round Mound, marjle, and Kevin Johnson
>Sonics with Kemp and the Glove
>Jazz with Stockton and Prime Malone

This is retarded oh my fucking lord. Not only that, the Bulls came from the better conference, and in 1998 had a lower seed than the Jazz.

Fuck this is dumb

And how many of those players would still be in the hof if they hadn't played with Jordan?

Sonics might be a meme but they did sweep the two time champions with prime Hakeem and eliminated Jazz

The Thunder were the youngest team in NBA history to make the finals. Those guys clearly weren't the players they are right now.

>Spurs
They more choked that series away than the Heat beat them. Recall how they faced again the following year? Recall how badly the Spurs raped them? Because it was the most lopsided finals in NBA history.

>losing to the Mavs
Every team Jordan beat was better than that fucking Mavs team. That will always be a massive blemish on Lebron's resume.

the thunder were not a great finals team

none of their best players were in their prime yet

> fuck this is dumb
> we are talking about cowshit
yah....
Id expect this from a retard like cowshit who is only a few steps below skip on shit posting but what gets me pissed is the retards in this thread who actually agree with this terrible opinion

None of those were great teams. You're proving his point.

>shit, no one's made any kind of Jordan comparison yet today? I'm on it!

Thunder werent great

> those arnt good teams
Please just stop with this tired meme. Jordan handily beat those teams and 2 of them had top 10 all time players on their teams. Not only that, everyone know damn well the bulls would have won 8 straight titles if jordan didnt go postal after his dad died.

Even though all his stats are inferior to Jordan's.....huh?

Golden State last year was better than any team Jordan beat, but other than that, LeBron's resume isn't particularly special.

If he beats them again this year, he will have beaten 2 teams that are better than anything LeBron ever faced.

Oh a 60+ win Sonics team with Shawn Kemp and one of the best defensive players ever in Gary Payton is just awful.

Oh man all time assists and steals leader and MVP winning Karl Malone led team just fucking suck.

Jeesh Marjle and MVP winner Chuck were some of the worst players to ever play the game.

Sure kid.

better than anything Jordan* ever faced

>Drexler (literally who?)

Retard

Look at these "king" stats at the same age as Jordan and his last losing finals

Barkley's Suns were a great team. They could have won a title and lost three years in a row to the actual NBA champion including two series decided on incredible shots by Paxson and Elie.

Stockton-Malone-Sloan were a great team as well. They would have won two straight if not for Jordan.

Drexler's Blazers may not be considered a great team, but Bulls were the outsiders in the 1992 finals despite being the defending champs.

Late Magic's Lakers were not a great team, they were totally rusted. Sonics weren't either. Blazers may be considered one. Suns and Jazz definitely were.

>75850924
> golden state was better than any team jordan ever faced

The nba is so watered down right now the bulls managed to win 2 games against the celtics. There is literally no arguing. 90s ball had the most dominant HoFers to ever play the game in that span. Toughest competition and you could actually play defense and not get fouls called.

Now look at at these for MJ

LePoop stain fans are a bit blinded and they're getting louder and more annoying recently

He is not correct. LeBron has only beaten one truly good team in the Warriors last year.
I'll concede that LeBron is the greatest of all time if he wins this year, but until then, absolutely not.

Try checking who Jordan played with during his first 3peat. Their third best player was Horace Grant. A solid player, sure as fuck not a HOFer.

>Lebron has played with more Hall of Fame talent over his career

Jordan played with
Pippen
Rodman
Parrish (he was like 45 years old and didn't play much)

>Lebron has played with
Shaq
Ray Allen
Wade
Bosh
And guys like Irving and Love are well on their way.

>Lakers weren't great
Still had Magic, they were really just without Kareem
>Sonics weren't either
Defeated Stockton-Malone and swept the back to back champions Rockets

>Jordan
Left his team and the Bulls went to the ECF in a tough game 7
>James
Left his team and they shot down to one of the worst in the whole league.

Jordan was carried by superstars, Pippen is objectively better than Jordan.

@75851875

Not even giving you a you for such low quality bait

People underrate Kevin Johnson immensely.

That was a solid 20pts 8asts guy.

Quick as fuck & a leader of men.

bad b8. should have left the last part out for full effectiveness

Lebron also played with Ben Wallace

Fucking Curry, Draymond, Thompson, Barnes, and Bogut starting, with Speights and Igodola on the bench? That is a ridiculous team. 4 max contract players, a really good center, with one of the best benches in the league.

That was a monster team.

>has played in more career games as well

People keep forgetting this. Lebron has already played longer than Jordan, yet all his stats are worst.

KJ is a HoF snub basically every year, he is criminally underrated. Dude casually averaged 20-10 in the regular season and still managed to step up in the playoffs.

No they weren't. The fucking Thunder had those fags beat but choked. The Warriors last year were massively overrated.

>later

keyword

The fucker is steps away from being a Senator.

He's pretty good.

> superstar team
> beats up on completely shit league that is the nba.
> plays 1 good team and gets exposed after the cavs figure out how to beat meme chuck.
Literally no. Ill say it again, teams in the nba were chalked full of power houses during the 90s. The fact teams like the bulls make the playoffs rn should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of talent in the nba.

Drexlar's Blazers made it to 3 NBA finals. They were a great team. They just had the bad luck of running into 3 of the best teams in NBA history.

>Showtime Lakers
>Bad Boy Pistons
>Jordan's Bulls

Oh wait. Wiki is telling me he may be a sexual deviant.

Remember when people were arguing about Kobe being better than MJ? good times. I can't wait for Lebron to retire.

KJ was better than fucking Steve Nash. I still don't know how or why Nash got so much credit for literally never doing anything.

>16 seasons
>never made the finals
>only made the WCF once

Yep. He's right.

This is why people who go "literally who" at the Glyde should be banned from posting about basketball opinions.

>JFK
>Clinton
>Trump
>Jefferson banging slaves
>Ted Kennedy being an alcoholic

American politics tell me to never stop dreaming

Wait a second.

Teddy totally drove drunk & killed that girl.

> meme chuck 2016 is better than any team from the 90s
> meme chuck stat pads and beats up on the league with literally 2 good teams in it.
> meme chuck almost lost in the wcf to the warriors
> meme chuck doesnt know what its like to have to run an offense when defenses were actually allowed to play
> bulls would win 8 straight titles if jordan didnt try baseball
> bulls had to beat the lakers, jazz, blazers, sonics, and bad boy pistons (considered the best defensive team to ever step on a court).
> jordan played less games than lebron and has the better stats

Lebron babies have no leg to stand on. No argument other than "L...lebron is better...b...because I...I say so!!"

And the Spurs and warriors aren't?

I blame the whole sportscenter and highlight reel cycle. Muh flashy dimes kinda took precedence over actual statistical superiority for a bit.

also
>best convo on basketball history happens outside of the general
I miss these kinds of threads.

What does is say about Jordan that the Bulls went further in the playoffs with Pippin but no Jordan than Jordan without Pippin every time?

Jordan couldn't even get past the first round without Pippin. LeBron dragged a shit garbage team to the Finals that had the worst record in the league after he left.

You put LeBron on ANY team, it's gonna get to the finals. You put Jordan on the worst team, he'll just chuck like Kobe and never get past the first round.

The Jazz were ok. Not great. They wouldn't be contenders today. Not enough firepower.

The teams LeBron has had to face are loaded with 3-4 hall of famers each! MJ only had to face, max, 2 hall of famers. Magic and worthy (who was injured) and Stock and Malone. But that's it. In fact, it was MJs Bulls that had the most hall of gamers in the 90s.

This is the sort of extensive qualification and goalpost moving that is now required

Deep state wanted em all dead, but Ted's super liver filtered out the roofies the CIA tried to get him with and he jumped out of the car in time.

>This is why people who go "literally who" at the Glyde should be banned from posting about basketball opinions.

Some people forget or don't even know that he was on Dream Team. Clyde doesn't get his due imo

No. Lebron hasn't even beat one. And he's lost to 4 mediocre ones. Seriously how do you lose 4 times with a free path the finals playing in the weakest conference in NBA history?

>Pippin

Yea thats cause the nba now is fucking trash. No one is even close to lebrons level. Hes all time great material no doubt but the competition in the 90s was so steep jordan couldnt will a team by himself when almost every team had 1-2 Hofers as well.

no cause the league is shit.

>You put LeBron on ANY team, it's gonna get to the finals

Yeah any team in the East

also this line is so full retard you are probably exposing yourself as a lebron supporting bot

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He's played longer than Jordan including the Wizards years?

>heat cramps

Jordan had better stats because he actually factually played in a far shittier league than LeBron ever did. That's why Wilt could drop 100 points in a game.

90s basketball talent is stupidly overrated. The talent in the NBA now is better than ever.

Yep. He passed MJ this season but no one seemed to talk about it

Yes.
Jordan only played 14 seasons including his Wizard years. One of those seasons he came back from playing basketball with like 15 games left in the NBA season.
This is already Lebron's 14th season. He has played in more career games than Jordan.

wilt and jordan didnt play in remotely the same era you fucking retard. Wilt was one of the first black guys allowed to play basketball in the nba. Jesus christ are you dumb.

Magics Lakers of the 1991 finals were not good. Kareem had retired and James Worthy was injured. That's why the Bulls ran through them and won in 5 games.

The Jazz team was the best team MJ ever faced, and that was/is a group of 2 ringless stars!

Be in had to beat Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Leonard... all champions and hall of famers.

Also the Warriors. Probably at least 3 hall of famers. And champions.

Don't forget the Thunder... ringless dudes, but Durant, Westbrook and Harden are hall of famers and mvp candidates.

Jordan so good he was a degenerate gambler & the Chicago mafia took his Da' away, yet he still won everything till boredom.

>heat cramps
nigger, you live in Miami

He indeed has.
LBJ- 1268
MJ- 1251

Including the playoffs

people will fall for this

Totally dismissing Brakley, Drexler, Payton, Malone & Stockton.

Well he hasn't beaten a legendary team like warriors. And Jordan's stats are inflated because zone defense was illegal.