>Be me >Live in northern Belgium, in a ghetto filled with Moroccans, Turks and multiple mosques + large amount of orthodox Jews selling jewellery in and around Antwerp Central Station >Clear overpopulation >Until a few years ago there used to be riots on the streets by foreigners for stupid shit >See these people spit on street, get diabetes 'cuz they can't handle sugar (=Berber), get beat up by Moroccans one time >Had ‘protection’ from Albanian mafia members after lending one some money for club entry >Those 2 drug cafés run by Berbers on both corners of my street don't help this negative image >At the same time, learn to live with cool reasonable Muslims (on university) and jews who are actually cool bros, get connections through them as well >Most Muslims I know actually accept criticism of Islam and acknowledge problems. >Jewish turn out to be super helpful with finding great student jobs >Surrogate big bro is Moroccan, we were buddies as kids and a few years ago he got into activism >Disliked this at first, then saw he was actually creative and did shit with his talents instead of whining and writing shitty op-eds on the internet >I could go on, etc.
Conclusions from over 20 years of living here and having seen the worst and best of immigrants and their 2nd generation: immigration is possible and can benefit the host country people can live together relatively well let in too many at one time however and it goes south fast think about your own country first, and then about others Mass-immigration is obv a bad idea
I don't agree with right-wing populists, Trump included, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't get elected or respected by people who think otherwise.
Sadly, unless the nationalists get their way in Flanders, we can never part from the EU. Their headquarters are in our country.
Ryan Gomez
>cool reasonable Muslims > jews who are actually cool bros
Nolan Morales
There can be a bro in all people, but the identity of europe is at stake here, as well as european lives and well being.
Easton Howard
what problem?
Thomas Fisher
We need to destroy the EU
Chase Edwards
>my country is a multicultural shithole and is basically 3rd world
lol
Landon Cooper
Antwerpen is verloren weldra zal Limburg nog blanker zijn dan antwerpen
ook >berbers zijn slecht >maar mijn 0,01% geslaagde maken het waard stap op de trein naar de kampen of namen
Robert Cruz
Njfupulan at groofhsh Dasi jdhshd baggage! Twuuuuus :^)
Jaxon Perry
nobody cares
Leo Bennett
This
Christopher Kelly
after the brits exit the EU we just have to send all the immigrants to GB problem solved, it's an Island and immigrants hate water
Lucas Fisher
I should note that all their businesses revolve around diamonds or jewellery.
>implying the rest of my country is this bad >implying the whole city is this shit.
Nice dubs
This.
James Rivera
NVA is pro EU, though. Besides, if Flanders split off we wouldn't take Bruxellstan with us.
Ethan Sanchez
Here is what I propose for Europe:
-Abolish dual nationality -Those who want to keep their shitskin passport, can -Foreign nationals will be expelled -Anyone who wants to keep their local passport must pass a citizenship test -Anyone with a serious criminal record or ties to radicals is not eligible
And last, but not least:
-Total equality This means no more special rights. No more halal slaughter, no more state-funded mosques, no more special interest groups. They are now all, officially, locals, and will be treated as locals. European muslims must makes a choice: Europe, or islam. And if they choose islam, they can go practice it in the islamic world.
I'd also send the commando's after Latuff, but that's just for shits and giggles. Give the cunt a sex change, and drop him in some islamic country. That'd be good for a laugh.
Juan Howard
>Right-wing populists This tired old meme
Robert Butler
>I don't agree with right-wing populists, Trump included, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't get elected or respected by people who think otherwise.
People like you make me have some glimmer of hope in the political left.
Nathan Watson
My point exactly, who's to say that an Independent Flanders won't rebel against the EU when it keeps imposing quotas the locals won't agree to?
Austin Peterson
Would you include banning Islam as a religion? Personally, I think it better to keep it under control.
Btw nederneger, hoe staat jouw land momenteel tegenover migratie?
Julian Turner
This
Andrew Anderson
tell that to your daughter when mudslims rape her tell that to yourself when you become old and they cut your throat tell that to the next generation when mudslimes get in politics and start to impose their shit
i´m kidding there will be no belgians to tell nothing, only inhuman trash, so spend your filthy money in hookers and drugs fucking traitor
Brandon Gomez
Personally, I'm not to keen on banning anything. Especially when "soft oppression" can go such a long way. Halal slaughter is already functionally illegal, but gets an exemption. In practice, it's already against our constitution. We're at a point where treating muslims equally, would actually be a step back in rights for them, absurd as that sounds with all the insistence that they're being discriminated against. Maybe that's true for the Tokkie football fan, but the state affords them insane advantages.
I think they'd leave in droves if we stop pampering them. Either way, out issue is with the unequal treatment, and the results of that. Increased crime, dicking over natives, etc.
>Btw nederneger, hoe staat jouw land momenteel tegenover migratie?
Ik kan niet echt voor mijn land spreken, maar mijn persoonlijke ervaring is dat de meeste mensen tenminste erkennen dat er een probleem is. De linkse droom is uit elkaar aan het vallen, zeker nu men eindelijk door heeft dat Wilders niet alleen niet meer weg zal gaan, maar ook populair zal blijven.
Nu moeten we enkel op een punt aankomen waarop we kunnen zeggen dat het land hier, heel nuchter genomen, geen baat bij heeft, en dat puur idealisme geen goede reden is om iets te doen.
Ik denk dat het ook een generationeel probleem is. De jeugd kan enorm dom zijn, maar de jeugd is ook opgegroeid in de maakbare maatschappij van de mensen die dat zelf nooit hebben gedaan. En een wijf kan nog zo links zijn, en zo pro-migratie, maar die zal op zijn minst moeten erkennen dat die mocro's inderdaad naar haar sissen als ze een decolleté heeft.
Lincoln Smith
Post of the thread.
Dominic Edwards
Butthurt detected Just because your country is a shithole already doesn't mean you have to project your anger elsewhere Alejandro.
Nathaniel Rivera
Best country coming through
Julian Sullivan
I went to Belgium once.
Never again.
Jose Perry
>be American >go to school at UCLA >get shot >have belgian exchange student being interviewed >mfw your government advised people not to come to Europe becuase of potential terrorist attacks
Levi Murphy
Share your experience with us, Britbong. Greentext and Blow Me The Fuck Out with your banter
Dylan Stewart
I'm tired of it all, and I just want them all to leave. I'm tired of lying politicians that lie and go behind the peoples back at every turn.
Tired of it all and I have nothing to lose anymore.
Dominic Parker
Post of the thread.
Aaron Scott
>be european >get gangraped
Jeremiah Powell
>be me >family members directly involved in kebab removal >there are very little to no kebabs here >the ones that are here have to behave or their skills get split with a hammer >we closed our borders and shoot even the women and children >if kebab tries to get in we will not hesitate to remove it
Conclusion is that you are all cucks and should also remove kebab
Bentley Sanders
Sven, for what it's worth, I hope your country can recover from the recent cuckening.
Sebastian Morgan
>ITT: eurokeks slowly waking up to the reality they've successfully ignored for so long...
Robert Anderson
lol no, here the population is very old fashioned dont believe the media, we live quite well but its sad to see your people destruct themselves
i visited bruges in 2008 and really loved it but for gods sake bussels needs gorillions of zyklonB
Josiah Wright
Barely any Belgians on Sup Forums, but you faggots are the kings of cuckposting.
Nolan Lopez
>hey guys, my country harbours the biggest terrorist network in europe, 48% of prisoners are muslims, there are neighborhoods where you can't go at night or muslims will rape you and mug you, but i know a really cool guy at university called ahmed! isn't that great? isn't diversity great?
i will never understand the thought process of europeans
Matthew Jones
I went once as well
It was -22, howling blizzard, the local police said we should not go outside. Regular top ups of alcohol were required to prevent freezing
I'd go again in winter.
Lincoln Sanders
>implying anyone on Sup Forums wasn't already wide awake
I've always been aware, since I first started questioning the narrative in school. Immigration has been a hot-button issue longer than I've consciously followed politics. It's honestly infuriating when you think about the fact that leftists have been abusing their power and using violence ot suppress criticism of immigration for nigh-on 25 years.
That's why I want a way to send back anyone who came in that time. The criticism was valid that entire time, and the left should be punished for obfuscating democracy.
Angel Hughes
>-22
Maybe i'd button my coat. Maybe.
Charles Murphy
>everything is retardedly fucking expensive >everywhere looks like a shit hole, from the train tracks at least. Took a train through Mechelen. Holy shit. It looked like the 20's >public transports is slow, overpriced and unreliable. I was attending Graspop, and your delightful national train operators decided to call strikes the day 60,000+ people had to commute across the country. gg >everywhere is closed for like 2 hours at lunchtime. where do workers go for lunch? o.o Is this why belgium is so shitty because you nap through half of every day? >too many people, in general. >everything is really fucking expensive.
I had a bad experience i will admit, but no Belgium, no. the Top Gear Belgium meme's are true.
Best things about Belgium; >Some amazing architecture, gothic and otherwise (until ISIS burn down the false idols) >very polite and helpful white man working for the bus company helped out the lost foreigners on strike day >most amazing 'posh-mcdonalds' in the world in central antwerp, still too expensive.
tl;dr, expensive, looks like nothing has been maintained since before the war
Liam Gray
Fuck off socialist scumbag, WE'RE FULL!
Anthony James
i was in brussels and
>muslims everywhere >literally entire neighborhoods full of muslims >little 14yo Ahmed kids trying to sell me drugs >homeless people everywhere pissing on the streets >shit language >prostitutes on the street >niggers taking money from the prostitutes >go to nicer looking neighborhood >sit at a cafe >its the fag quarter >guys making out
seriously belgium get your shit together
Kevin Jones
I've been to Belgium a couple times, and I believe it could be a great country if it stood up for itself.
You see, the thing about immigrants is that as long as a country has national issues of any kind, it it should focus on addressing them directly with everything they've got before even starting to worry about immigrant policies.
Nathan Bennett
>de meeste mensen tenminste erkennen dat er een probleem is. Het nieuws van de afgelopen dagen zegt het tegenovergestelde. >sylvana => nederland is racistisch, we moeten meer doen voor minderheden >die rapneger => de politie en de nederlandse maatschappij is racistisch >zwarte piet debat (alweer) => de media vindt nu ook dat zwarte piet racistisch is >mocro die zichzelf dood heeft laten schieten door de politie => de politie is nog steeds racistisch
Joseph Nelson
I want to go to Canada in the winter
I miss the snow. We dont get any here anymore, just rain.
Nicholas Morgan
Why is europe basically in russia on the op pic? Fuck off we are full
Josiah Taylor
you know how many inmigrants were in spain in 1999? 500.000 you know how many inmigrants are now in spain? 5.000.000
since day 1 i´ve claiming for this train to stop fuck europe and fuck politicians and fuck idealists without brain like op
Juan Morales
Immigration like this was never needed nor encouraged.
This is a new thing that's been pushed hardcore since the 90s. Anything that means mixing people from different races and cultures is an utter mistake. Individuals can travel or integrate in other societies with a plan of work and intention to contribute like they've been doing since forever.
There was plenty of time to make amends and try to get along but they refused. Now they're like "oke oke, there's actually some of us who are going to behave from now on" well fuck them. Time's up, it's time to pay.
Luis Gray
>huilnegers en de negrofiele linkse media
Die lui janken sinds de oertijd. Laat ze maar janken als Wilders PM is.
Juan Price
Maar wel een moslim als burgemeester van Rotterdam...
John Cook
If you want snow then it's probably Quebec or the Rockies. Good ski at both. Prairies are colder than space and dull as fuck, Ontario is ontario (ie shit) and West coast is rain, druggies and happy ending parlors.
Jonathan Evans
Brutal, but effective.
Can't deny the state of Brussels but there's a chance that it will get better with the recent investigation and whatnot.
Nice trips. Except for the neighborhoods you are spot on. But since we already brought these people here and some of them have citizenship, it takes a long time to punish and/or expel those who are unfit. Not to mention the appaling state of our justice system and prisons
The have gotten so bad in recent days even the strikers themselves don't want to stop working anymore. What do you except from people with easy af jobs? Everything else you said I can confirm.
Nice dubs >implying I suck DiRupo's dick
Too many doubles ITT tbqh. Were you in the city of Brussels or the province of Brussels?
This.
Russia likes Europe, you can tell. Putin is thirsty af for those formerly communist states
Angel Ward
We do not have a migrant crisis.
Our crisis is in the form of EU coming for our guns and we seem to be the only EU nation that opposes it.
Fuck you France for emotional blackmailing, fuck you Netherlands for wanting to do it under your presidency regardless the idiocy of poorly made bill
(a) The following acts will be regarded as criminal offences
punishable as aggravated crimes:
(i) Hate crimes as defined in Section 1(c).
(ii) Incitement to violence against a group as defined in
Section 1(a).
(iii) Group libel as defined in Section 1(b).
(iv) Overt approval of a totalitarian ideology, xenophobia
or anti-Semitism.
(v) Public approval or denial of the Holocaust.
(vi) Public approval or denial of any other act of genocide
the existence of which has been determined by an
international criminal court or tribunal.
(b)Juveniles convicted of committing crimes listed in paragraph (a)
will be required to undergo a rehabilitation programme
designed to instill in them a culture of tolerance.
Ryder Moore
Someone didn't read the end of my post.
Agreed, Juan. Although I wouldn't say their time is up. Know that I don't advocate immigration per se. It is possible if done right, but it has clearly gotten out of hand in recent years.
Liam Brown
>fuck you Netherlands for wanting to do it under your presidency regardless the idiocy of poorly made bill
Get fucked, you dumb cunt. All this anti-EU sentiment, and you are STILL bringing it down to the national level. Rutte is just another career EU politician with zero sympathy for his own people. I hate the cunt, and so does pretty much everyone in the country. A good part of whom voted for him, of course, and even they hate him, now.
Nobody asked us if "we" wanted to be EU president. That's just a post they gave Rutte so he would fuck us over even more readily. And here you are claiming that him being bribed to fuck us is somehow OUR fault.
Fuck you, nigger. You're in the EU. He's your president, too. You are represented by him. Don't you feel secure in that fact? After all, you seem to be under the impression that the people are always at fault for the politicians ruling them, so you MUST feel aligned with the EU's policies, right?
In short: Eat shit you fucking retard. Rutte's presidency is worse for us, than for you, because you're not the one who's MP is having his pockets filled by the EU to sell out his own people.
Ayden Jones
BREXIT BTFO BREXIT BTFO
Ayden Flores
FUCK YOU!
See you at football champion...oh, wait!
[spoiler]HAHAHAHA[/spoiler]
Jack Sullivan
Leave it to the fags to keep their neighborhood clean from kebabs.
Joseph Sanchez
This. Why is everyone in the West such a fucking cuck? I'm starting to understand Americans who hate Europe, hell, I'm European and I'm beginning to hate it, too.
Levi Gutierrez
>implying I give two fucks about that sport for yokels
Bread and circuses, pleb. The EU loves how you blame us, instead of them.
Owen Jones
100% agree. My country is pretty much falling apart, rapefugees are the last thing we should worry about, let alone give precedence over actual issues.
...didn't you guys shoot down a refugee boat some years ago? How did your country get away with it?
Gavin Davis
You sound like a cuck.
Sebastian Ross
Went on a school trip to Northern Italy and I can still remember negros, employed by the mafia, trying to sell me sunglasses whilst shouting "Hey playboy!". Rest easy, Leonardo.
Julian James
The Eu leadership is the enemy of the people of Europe, it's just that simple. They WANT these immigrants to come here, and they use every bit of power they have to make it seem like it's a good thing for us, and to make it seem like that's the universal consensus.
The European people are voting far right in droves, in response to this. Europe is at its least cucked since the war. Of course, that's exactly why Americans hate us, because they are the ones who used to cuck us. Well, except you guys in the East. You had communism's dick in your face.
The problem is that all the people in power structures are people who are stuck 20 years in the past. They legit think they can contain this shit with more laws, more elitism, more repression. They can't.
Wyatt Clark
>paying the Albanian mafia protection >This is somehow a good situation to be in
You yuropoors really know how to just roll over and take it OP, I'll give you a hint; THERE SHOULDN'T BE A FUCKING MOROCCAN GHETTO I'M YOUR CITY IN THE FIRST PLACE
Thomas Richardson
Did you read the last two lines? What exactly, makes you think I like watching my potential gf get raped by a bunch of rapefugees?
Elijah Evans
Take action. Do something. They already pulled this stunt with Austria, you blokes have three weeks to think up something to counter it. It's your country we're talking about... Or are you letting Obongo threaten you and get away with it?
Gavin Carter
>Be Belgium >Get bombed
David Perez
Hah, yeah we did. My country doesn't really get away with anything, it's just the People's Party, the one who was in power when it happened (and still is, for now) which basically functions like an ongoing mafia criminal organization that can do as they please, including stealing indecent amounts of money from citizens or changing the constitution.
Colton Martin
See I recognize your ilk, belgian. I grew up in a multicultural city too, and I know your type exactly. The type that doesn't like the mass effects of mass immigration, but rather than actually adressing the issue, you'd try to make up excuses for them by pointing at the few good ones and saying "Look! Diversity works! I found a good one!".
You hang around criminal albanians but somehow accept them as cool, cause they protect you from other immigrant groups looking for violence, while completely ignoring the damage this all makes on society as a whole. There should be no moroccan ghetto in Belgium, neither should there be an albanian mafia. I guess your individualist self-centrism makes you incapable of seeing the damage it all does on the greater society around you. The albanian mafia might protect your ass, but they're ruining others.
Jace Barnes
Well, maybe you see it that way because for you, there's an improvement (ie., people voting right-wing etc), but there is no improvement for us. We weren't cucked like you, or at least not in the same way as you, so I just see us losing our freedoms. Don't get me wrong, I do believe it will eventually get better - it always does - but at what cost?
Brandon Davis
I should probably clarify: >be 16 >go to club >recognise S, a former classmate of mine >S is Albanian >friends of his like me, start chatting excitedly around me and intimidating me >one fatass' nickname was Piggy >Piggy didn't have the money to get in >Friend asks if I could lend some >I refuse >They start ganging up on me whilst pleading with me >I give it since I'm alone and stand no chance if things go south >they assure me I will have 'protection' >skip forward 2 hours >best bro and I are dancing and he pulls me up on the stage >Piggy grabs him by the neck and holds him in a headlock >asks if there is any trouble
I said no and they released him but it was scary af. Never again. Fuck Albanians.
>implying I liked living there >implying I don't dissaprove of ghettos
Jaysus Christ man, you assume way too much I don't like the A. Mafia any more than you do. This happaned once, btw. These aren't bros of mine and I've given that former friend of mine enough shit about that evening already. Also, why the fuck do you think I like ghettos? The streets are filthy, there's overpopulation and high crime rates. There shouldn't be one to begin with, but the police find it easier to gather all the (potential) criminals in one area rather than spreading migrants out because they'll just reproduce their own culture within our own, leading to none of them speaking Dutch and still living like they would in their shitholes of a country.
Migrants should be refused if they aren't compatible but there are already people like this here. It's a lot harder to remove them once they've planted their roots in the ground.
I M P L Y I N G M P L Y I N G
Josiah Moore
I had a lot of Muslim friends in school as I was the only German in my class. Turned out the best chance they got to stab you in the back they'll do so. Never relax around browns
Kevin Martinez
Looks like I hit a nerve. Belgium would be much better off without immigration. Case closed. If you don't think so, either convert to islam and blow yourself up on the metro, or enjoy being cucked.
Aaron Cooper
Loads of left wingers think like this, including myself. You can easily see that the best way to stop far-right groups is to give them a platform to spout their dumb shit (see Nick Griffin)
It's just that the mad SJWs scream louder than us, and are more likely to get filmed and posted on the internet for laughs, so it seems like there's a lot of them.
Ryder Bailey
>Cartoon saying inmigrants
Weren't suppose to be refugees?
John Richardson
We would be better of if they stopped atm. And yes, you did hit a nerve by assuming most of what you wrote. As for future immigration, it is possible but not necessary.
Grayson Williams
I work in the immigration department here AMA
Bentley Cruz
>immigrants >refugees >illegals who cares? everything is the same
Camden Perez
its from 2008 though
i agree with OP though. if youre an immigrant living among mostly white europeans youre going to start assimilating sooner or later but if your whole neighborhood is fob immigrants why the hell would you even try to integrate
Brody Walker
haha says the fool who was ruled by them
Ian Morris
I understand where you are coming from. You thought you were getting into a good partnership with the rest of Europe, but what you really got was communism 2.0, now with more internationalism.
But the genie is out of the bottle, now. It can't go back in. The new European right is here to stay, and with that the validity of questioning mass immigration. I just fear that the leftists are aiming at doing irrepairable damage before their policy is stopped.
Or do they really believe their own replacement immigration narrative? It's really worrying that people could actually believe that it's good to replace the people of Europe with Middle Easterners. What could we or they possibly gain from that? The fact that their reasons are so infathomable is almost as infuriating as the fact that they're doing it.
I don't know. There's a frightening amount on non-SJW, AntiFa-denouncing normie leftists who openly say they want the "far right" banned, and are secretly glad when something like the assassination of Pim Fortuyn happens.
Honestly, they scare me the most. There will never be proper support for #killallmen crazies. But the calm, reasonable people who all calmly and reasonably agree that it's good to ban political parties that want things they don't want, they are the ones to watch out for.
I mean, take that effort to get Wilders in court. Again. And right before the upcoming elections, next year. That wasn't an action perpetrated by crazy SJW's. Those were normies.
Aiden Brooks
If Europe doesn't want refugees, America will gladly take them in. LAND OF THE FREE! BRING US YOUR POOR, TIRED, HUDDLED MASSES!
