Economy crashes right when Trump takes credit for it...

Economy crashes right when Trump takes credit for it, and right when Trump gets rid of the person Obama appointed to run the economy.

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Indeed.
Stock market rising
>The rise in the stock market is entirely due to my economic policies - DJT
Stock market mini-crash and increased volatility
>*tumbleweed*

>trump takes claim for something he didn't do and it blows up in his face repeatedly

Gee almost like a trend is forming...

The stock market is a measure of investment return, not the economy.

That said, yeah, he hasn’t done anything to directly influence the stock market or the economy. That tax cut the Republicans passed won’t be good when the economy starts slowing down more, though

> right when Trump gets rid of the person Obama appointed to run the economy.
And who would that be?

Fuck them both, communism will win in America but that's not what I came here to discuss.

Where the fuck did the fat cartoon bitch come from, and holy fuck is there moar?

>communism will win in America
That is the least probable outcome. You only have to see how they all reacted under McCarthy; they are paranoid about communism, which is why they are against even mildly socialist measures like Obamacare

On a long enough timeline it gets more and more probable. The proletariat and lumpenproletariat keep growing as classes while the bougeoisie and petty bourgeoisie keep shrinking and getting more and more oppressive. Bernie came out of nowhere, and all those crazed liberals screaming that he's Stalin are in for a real wake-up call when our Stalin finally shows up in national politics.

secrets of el dorado but EXTRA THICC

Muchas gracias.

>a real wake-up call when our Stalin finally shows up
Delusion, the post
Anti-communism is so inculcated in the national psyche it'll never happen. Unless you are referring to a totalitarian leader. That's possible, but not from the far left.

Chel makes one hell of a sexy big woman.

Russia was incredibly right wing too, before it wasn't. We've already had all sorts of fascist leaders, it's just that we kept all the downsides of it in the Third World where the CIA could deal with it. They're our Black Hundreds going around repressing the world for the rich.

This country makes a big deal about hating communists, and when the rich are in control and can deal with communists, they do. But in periods of deepest crisis, we always end up reaching for the leftmost solution available to us, then and only then. Civil War? Abolish slavery and fuck all those rich people that want otherwise. Depression and world war? Create a New Deal and shoot Hitler and fuck all those rich people that want otherwise. Another depression, brought on by the greed of the rich? Surely you see how this ends. And if it doesn't end like that this time around, it will the next, or the time after that.

Time is too long to speak of absolutes, user. And the country is browning, and all those brown people think of Marxism-Leninism not as some wicked spectre to contain but as the animating ideology that kept their countries free from us. You think Marxists are slacker college students, and until now that's been true. But when Marxists are workers, and with the browning of America that's increasingly the case, sooner or later we will come to power.

Until that time, it doesn't matter which party's idiot gets to tell the drones to kill. I may live in Nebraska, but one day I will live in a truly Red state.

Yes the fuck she does.

>lumpenproletariat
>petty bourgeoisie
Sounds like you've been paying too much attention in philosophy class.The last election showed how socialism/communism will never be able to take hold. The Democrats will cannibalize anything that isn't an uber-corrupt Clinton or Clinton clone, and the Right wing would lose it's voters if they endorsed anything like it. The pendulum is swinging back and communism will be left in the dust with other failed ideologies and trends. In the same way that modern pop communism was almost exclusively a fringe opinion, white nationalism and the like will become the "accepted" fringe opinion. This is the ideal as Americans are already immunized to most forms of race politics and wont be tricked as easily asthey were with pop communism.

It's very likely that we will all have to take takes towards basic government wages as AI tech replaces more and more workers.

If white America wants to get off its ass and actually work in manufacturing, cleaning toilets, and picking grapes in fields.....it is welcome to do so.

Never deport your entire workforce before you have its replacement one actually in place.

Seriously, if people are going to bitch about illegals taking jobs, then white Americans better damn well be prepared to work in the hot sweaty outdoors again.

forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/05/17/the-law-of-unintended-consequences-georgias-immigration-law-backfires/#355a8026492a

>And the country is browning
No. No it isn't. Census stats for 2015 in pic.
Add in Africo-American (hardly immigrants "browning" with communist tendencies) and that covers 86% of the population

Source - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States

If Republicans had any intelligence, they'd start focusing on turning non-whites into Republicans.

But nope, they had to push them into the arms of the Democrats.

And my Triple-Dubs confirm it's the truth.

The GOP is actually losing more white support than it had before, as the suburbs and young people it used to have defect.

The white population is shrinking as a percentage of the population and as a percentage of the voting pool. The racist capitalist coalition this country was founded on is no longer tenable. The closest replacement was a tolerant capitalist coalition, which Obama and the Clintons tried to pull off, but capitalism is inherently discriminatory and there's no way it could get away yet with the sorts of discrimination against white people that has historically happened to oppressed nationalities. The only possible way to save capitalism is to trick black and brown people into voting for it, and that's just not going to happen in the long term because it runs against their interests as a class and as races.

picking fruit is 0.000001% of America's economy, and most of it automated now. literally have machines that shake fruit right off the tree faster than any spic can do it.

That line that mainstream media has been parroting for 40 years on behalf of the globalists, that lazy Americans just won't do certain jobs is a lie to make you think we need illegal cheap labor, when in actuality illegals bring down wages for everyone, and cost taxpayers 115 BILLION a year!

The truth is Americans already do the worst jobs, like demeaning, slave wage jobs like Walmart or McDonalds. I don't see illegals doing any of those jobs for peanuts.

>Hot, sweaty outdoors.

Who do think built and maintains this Nation? I don't see illegals driving garbage trucks, building highrises, putting out fires or Policing neighborhoods.the fact is, we don't need illegals, they're stupid, willing slaves that need to go back and fix their own country they fucked up!

Rather than persuade non-whites they'd be better off persuading whites to 1) vote and 2) vote GOP. There's ~74% of the population to go at (2015 numbers).

If you think Hillary Clinton is anything resembling a communist, you haven't been paying ENOUGH attention in any kind of class.

Found some 2017 stats - see pic

Whites still ~77%
Source - census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217

thinking the economy crashed.

And it shrinks every year. When whites are no longer a majority of the population, the GOP will cease to exist as a mainstream party that can contest and win elections, because the GOP will never get anything close to 100% of the white vote. Trump did just about as good as any Republican could do and didn't clear 70%.

But the GOP's increasing irrelevance (they think they're hot shit because they can pass a single tax cut; motherfucking Dubya didn't even have a supermajority and he did whatever the fuck he felt like) is not my problem. The remnant of Hillary's campaign running the DNC is my problem. The "social democrats" thinking we can fix anything by turning X state/city/whatever blue is my problem. The inequality of this nation is my problem. The racist cops are my problem. The only solution is arming the workers and telling the government what we will and will not allow.

Politics only begins at the voting booth.

implying this will happen

you don't have much in the line of reasonig , do you?

believing this is what happened

yeah right

In the long term that's still going down because rich people don't have as many kids as poor people, and therefore immigration will over time brown this country up. You're arguing that it won't do it in the next five years, fuck the next five years. I'm speaking on a timescale of centuries. The Klan is doomed. The GOP is doomed. The Democrats are also probably doomed but not because of the demographic shift.

>It's very likely that we will all have to take takes towards basic government wages as AI tech replaces more and more workers
implying this will happen

you mean the millennials

implying this is how it happens

implying this is whats going on

Janet Yellen, newfag.

implying this will happen

Uh, have you even seen modern American teenagers? You really see them as building anything that involves manual labor? I do not share your optimism.

I'd fuck Extra-Thicc Chel so hard.

What a lazy, useless debate style. This is exactly what's going on because Nazis get their asses beat and they're all infiltrated to shit by Antifa anyway. The only way you could stop the demographic shift would be through Nazis taking over, and as demonstrated that just won't happen.

well that escalated quickly

>What a lazy, useless debate style
only a millennial would bitch about something like this

Shitposting 101

Correct my grammar next you knuckle-dragging classcuck.

You act like illegals are geniuses? most won't even bother to learn the language to better themselves, just for that this gen has a leg up.not only that, what about Mexico's teenagers, you think they're any better?

It's called a correction. The DOW is up almost 400 today.

Also Jews have run the Federal reserve since 1979. Trump appointed a non-Jew so they're probably pissed.

that was not a nice thing to say

>Modern Nazis working together
>Ever

"Spencer is awesome! Spencer is a plant! Milo rules! Milo is a pedo! Trump is God-Emperor! Trump is Amnesty-Don! Bannon stands up for us! Bannon sold us out! We're okay with Miller being Jewish until the day we're not!"

Some form of socialism will exist in every country eventually if society is going to survive, because capitalism isn't a sustainable system. It was a product of the industrial revolution and we now live in a post-industrial world, hence the fact that it's creaking. But America will be the last country get rid of the capitalist system. They're too wedded to the idea.

implying this will happen

Fascism is capitalism in decay, so fascism can be expected to have the same traits as the other capitalist doctrines (libertarianism, liberalism, conservativism). Chief among those is individualism, which manifests as competition. In the case of fascism, this competition means that each individual fascist is in a never-ending competition with each other individual fascist. The only thing that can unite these individuals in the long term is victory, and when the alt-right had a brief spell of victories right after the election they did hold together. Now that they're being hunted by Antifa and they're outnumbered 100 to 1 at all their events by Antifa and literally nobody in the mainstream right gives a single fuck, they're tearing each other apart in a quest to defend themselves individually.

All of them think that they themselves can't be individually at fault, it must be the other leaders that are wrong. Each leader has a different focus that he hates most, and so each one is blaming the others for attacking part of their coalition. "Dammit Tomi, I'm trying to get the gays to hate black people too!" "Shut up Milo, you and your faggots are riling up all the niggers!" "What'd you say about niggers? Sheriff Clarke won't like that, he's trying to get the niggers to hate women." So forth and so on.

The Nazis will now all crawl back into their holes, and the ones that persist will get beat to shit by Antifa. The attempt to reverse the demographic shift will fail. When brown people outnumber white people, socialism will win.

It's inevitable. Explain to me where my logic breaks down, or accept that it's inevitable.

capitalism is the only sustainable system, it doesn't try to let everyone survive or have everything, trade has existed since the dawn of man it has zero to do with industrial revolution, don't be a moron.

Could be. But the only country that America can't invade after they install a socialist government... is America. And if America goes socialist, all that excessive military spending means that the rest of the world will be socialist in short order. Ironically, the last capitalist holdouts may well be Russia and China.

>capitalism is the only sustainable system

Global fucking warming, retard.

You do know that Yellen was on the shortlist for the next chair, and that common knowledge was that she was ready to step aside, and that her replacement was seen as a continuation of her outlook.

To say nothing of whether her chairmanship of the Fed was positive, or whether the Feds even ”controls the economy”.

Right?

It is the big weakness of Fascists. They just cannot work together, so inevitably they destroy each other. When your personal high is hatred, you can't control it.

And contrary to the stereotype, Communists can't work together either. During the Cold War, there were more than six strains of Communist thought and multiple ideological splits.

thats quit a load of shit there son

what can be said for someone who communicaites with cartoons

I said 'some form' of socialism not Bolshevism you fucking retard. Capitalism has everything to do with the industrial revolution, and who says socialism forbids trade? Think before you type next time.

well you're wrong there

I think you're confused

Capitalism isn't sustainable. Only a literal idiot would argue that it is.

>Global fucking warming, retard
well you got the last word correct

can you stay on topic?

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what do you think capitalism is?
then why don't you think its sustainable?

White counts mestizos, bro.

>I'm speaking on a timescale of centuries
White people WILL BE the poor, when your ethnosocialist state redistributes our wealth.

What then? The cycle continues, in "reverse"?

I can't be bothered to write a definition. Previous user compared it to the cottage industry which is wrong, both involve trade but are completely different. Capitalism is exploitative by nature.

things that will never happen

>our wealth
my sides in orbit

>exploitative by nature
You mean it, as a force, single handedly raised the entire world(what do you imagine starving africans would wear if not capitalist hand-me-downs and where do you think that aid money comes from)?

Wealth is not discovered or taken, it is produced. You misunderstand economics at its most basic level

>I can't be bothered to write a definition
means he doesn't know

I didn't say that Clinton was a commie, I'm saying that the Democrats will always support snakes and will sabotage and use anything to replace them. I don't like Sanders, but it was pretty sad how he basically got raped in the elections.


People are losing their jobs to Mexicans in USA and Muslims in EU because they work cheap and are too dumb to complain about working conditions. Imagine employing someone who works as long as you like and only costs as much as their living expenses. Machines can do that. Buying a sophisticated AI is like buying a slave.

do you really think he knows what he is saying?

>WHITE PEOPLE ARE WEALTHY AF, BROWN PEOPLE ARE POOR
>ok but what about when they take our wealth and give it to brown people
>LOL IMPLYING WHITE PEOPLE HAVE WEALTH ROFL

What, the currently evolving ethnosocialist regime, or whites becoming poor? I can't tell which racist camp you're in, the far left or the far right.

Inflation/expansion is a shit-tier fetish

how is it exploitative? i pay you for goods or services that you agree upon.

No, and what you really mean to ask is "do you really think he can understand what you're saying" isn't it?

I don't think he can, no.

becoz wage slavery dawg dont you know that voluntary transactions are only about fucking you over and you have no say in the matter

It sounds like you misunderstand a lot of things, not just economics.

>I can't tell which racist camp you're
talking to you is a waste of my time

Marxist-Leninists can work together. Revisionists end up supplementing socialist ideology with nationalism, and like the fascism that nationalism leads to, it creates a bunch of individuals that cannot cooperate.

Around the world you'll see splinter factions upon splinter factions of Trotskyites and capitalist roaders and revisionists and other "reform" Marxists and they will split and harangue each other. And then you will see that every socialist country that is still socialist in fact has the same ideology: Marxism-Leninism. Cuba, the DPRK, Venezuela. The only debatable case is Rojava, which is anarchist, but in practice their anarchism is incredibly similar to Marxism-Leninism, just with different terms.

Every successful leftist revolution has been Marxist-Leninist and Marxist-Leninist comrades are remarkably pragmatic about working with one another. The revisionists split themselves but they never have any real power, because they deny those things about Marxism-Leninism that confer real power.

If it's such a load of shit surely you can explain why. So far I see a lot of capitalists and fascists saying "nuh-uh" and nobody saying why.

Sounds like you're all cowards who can't defend your ill-begotten murderous system, but that's just me.

Do you even know the history of Communism? They fought each other all the time, even within their own borders.

wow

They fought revisionists. There's a massive difference.

so?

I'm going to hit the blind spot in your argument.

So why did China's Communist Party end up surviving the fall of the USSR, lol?

>who can't defend your ill-begotten murderous system
not mine asshole

If Communism is so perfect, why so much perceived need FOR revision?

So let me get this strait....
The grand solution to corporatism (which is what you guys are truly talking about when you say Capitalism btw... Which isn't capitalism at all). A system that is controlled by the wealthy, who have ceased all the means of production as to gain profit.
Certainly this is not a sustainable system. As where the wealthy only have to complete with one another they create more poor people as There is only so much money.

So coarse the logical thing to do is to give the government all the means of production AKA Communism! Under said system people tend to forget that the first thing to go is your right to ownership of all property and OF YOURSELF!
You simple minded useful idiots have no fucking clue that your actually feeding more into the corporate system that's fucking everything up.
The people in power WANT communism because it will give them even more power.
It will turn YOU all of you into nothing but a commodity.
All you screeching communist have this bright delightful idea in your thick skulls, that under communism everything will be peachy.
That you will just lounge around and do nothing wile some invisible person will be hard at work doing everything.
WRONG, You all and everyone else will be working nonstop for No pay. You cant complain, you cant quit, you cant even object as that will be considered hate speech by the new communist government.
Your no longer a person under communism you are a cog in a machine. When you are no longer useful to the machine you are discarded!

The solution is to balance corporate control, and government control, with social and lawful control. For instance police should by all rights be payed by the people, serve the people, and protect the people. Yet we all stood idly by as private interest bough the police and turned them agents us.
Same with our position's, same with the banks.
So yah lets just go communist and give these people More power!

so hows living in the street treating you?

They're revisionists and communist in name only. Deng Xiaoping and the rest of the capitalist-roaders took over the Party in the 80s and it's now a capitalist hellhole complete with suicide nets in its factories, extraterritoriality (they just call it SEZs now), and arming the fascist Duterte against the Philippine Communists. China is no longer a socialist regime and a real communist seeks the downfall of its government.

Oh and BTW if America does suddenly become communist, it will be THE POLICE who's boots will be on your necks wile antifa will be shot in the street's, because the laws that stop them will no longer apply!

Useful idiots!

Can't wait until Americucks realise that giving jobs back to legal Americans, means that they have to work for illegal immigrant rates, because the entire business infrastructure is built on the basis that it can pay those tiny wages. Magical additional money will not appear just because actual yanks are now doing the jobs. Lol.

But muh capitalizm

better than welfare.

There isn't a need for revision. But any group in power will always attract opportunists, who want to advance their career through proximity to power. But these opportunists, though they will say they believe in anything to gain power, only believe in their own power and wealth. Therefore, once they have achieved power, they will do whatever it takes to keep it. Generally this means compromise with capitalist regimes, what we call revisionism.

So Khrushchev took over after the death of Stalin, and immediately ratcheted back the Cold War. He denounced the memory of Stalin and the rest of the socialist world rightly denounced him for it. But then the revisionists took over from Mao, leaving Enver Hoxha, Fidel Castro and the Kims the last real OGs standing. And then Enver Hoxha died and so did free Albania.

Is it? It'll mean an increase in the cost of all goods and services, and a reduction in the minimum wage. It may well work out to be that you're even more poverty-stricken than current recipients of welfare. America is a corporatocracy now through and through, it's quality of life is about to plummet hard. Staggering that people seem to want this, but ho hum, Trump had a nice, red hat I guess. Irresistible