/f1/ Formula 1 General - Ferrari Strategy Edition

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>Season standings:
1. Sebastian Vettel 104 points
2. Lewis Hamilton 98 points
3. Valtteri Bottas 63 points
4. Kimi Räikkönen 49 points
5. Daniel Ricciardo 37 points

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Race was pretty kino
Princess in the points
AFLA really bad

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Something I noticed during the race, and was waiting for a torrent to check.
>was also waiting for the race thread shitposters to fuck off so we can be aspys


According to Sky, Hamilton made up ~8 seconds by "pitting under the VSC".

But he didn't.
Look at the graphic. The VSC ends as he is entering the pits.

The "pitting under VSC" advantage is that when you're stationary, your opponent is going 80km/h instead of 200-300km/h, so you lose less time.
But when Hamilton was stationary, Vettel should have been at race speed.

For me it will always be anime

I MISSED THE RACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

brb watching the rerun on sky go

clever lad desu

how did hamilton make up the time then i dont get it

HAAS have a future WDC on their hands

Vettel still had to drive a considerable amount of the main straight during VSC which lost him the time

as you said the vsc ends when he enters the pits, so Vettel has still to complete one lap at full speed.

mercedes strategy was good, on the other hand ferrari watched to much and acted accordingly, they got fooled easily

can i get a replay stream lads

nah mate jog on

>not watching it on RAI2

cmon m8 be a good lad

I was asleep -_-

Ferrari had no chance today strategy-wise, they did NOT fuck up.

It's all analysed here auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/ferrari-sieg-verschenkt-12033368.html

I was thinking about that.
Same thing that happened in Monaco GP2 last year.

But I thought the F1 system (different to GP2's) with it's "sector arrival times" was meant to avoid that.

Set your alarm next time to bloody baka

I think you'll all just have to admit that Vettel wasn't as good as Lewis today.


Don't speak German. Post a link in English.

Like said, Vettel was 3/4 of the way down the main straight when the VSC ended. Mercedes timed their pitstop perfectly—right as the tractor was almost off the circuit, because Hamilton's pit stop delta was effectively only 13 or 14 seconds rather than the usual 21 or 22.

>animeposting

Don't try you cheek with me mate it'll always lose out

>Gimi

why the fuck didn't ferarri pit on the VSC when they saw the merc team set up on the lap that they didn't pit on?

it was a fucking slow motion pitch for them to fucking hit out of the park if they then hustled outside to pit also

>Vettel being a lesser driver than Hamilnigger
Nah, has never happened and will never.

I did that once. That's it, once.

>abloo abloo
shut up
>Sup Forums
correct
>don't speak German
not my fault m8
The article basically covers all "what ifs" concerning alternative Ferrari decisions and basically Mercedes victory was set in stone

Hush cheeky asylum seeker who fell off the lorry

Its unironically true

I disagree
it's a well known fact that after 40 laps tyres pretty much cover the asphalt increasing the performance of soft compounds.
Foolishly Ferrari hoped in the degradation of the Hamilton's tyres in favor of Vettel hard ones.

Well shit you left an impression on them. Had few of them complaining over here about you. Cheeky well job done lad

t. asylum seeker in japan

lmaoing @ u're life 2bh famiglia

Imagine being this emasculated by the mere mention of a black person

We're not all beer swilling krauts, Klaus

So let's assume Ferrari go on Medium after first stop. Mercedes chose Soft, Hamilton goes past Vettel. Last stint is Medium Hamilton in the lead with Vettel catching up on Softs and then what?

>Like said, Vettel was 3/4 of the way down the main straight when the VSC ended

Yeah I think he's right.
The sector arrival time system won't compensate for the KM/H loss when accelerating from mid-straight.

If he had have been almost anywhere else on track, it wouldn't have been as bad.

Woah nice repeating digits friend. make a wish

Haha. Awesome. Maybe they're so salty because they were forced to confront the fact that F1 is a superior motorsport.

Daily reminder that your professional sports are DOMINATED by black people

Is this why you're so insecure about their existence?

>be a top team
>hire Finns

why do they do this

Ham was 4s ahead of Vettel in the last stint because he had the best tyres, simple if Vettel had soft tyres at the end he would easily have reached Hamilton right after his first overtake at lap 40 I think

Because Finns are good.

Friendly reminder that animeposting isn't allowed here, and that I will be reporting any anime posts in future.

Please go back to your containment board.

>Implying that Vettel is good enough to beat Hamilton.

...

Ferrari have for once practically an unbeatable car both in quali and races, yet they keep giving wins away to fucking Mercedes who are in all honesty not even on the same level right now.

Vettel choked half a second in the last sector in quali, Ferrari choked the strategy so fucking hard in the race yet again. Won't comment on the Finns because they are both Barrichello tier right now.

If Ferrari chokes this easy championship I honestly wouldn't even be surprised at this point. And then they probably will forget to develop for 2018 and have another 2016-tier season. I honestly don't know if they even deserve support from fans at this point

Lad lad lad you tried the mass reports in the past & that only got you ignored by mods & warnings from the janitors lads at best. You are welcome to try but you will not win my cheeky friend

>censored version

Delet that file from your computer.

Bottas is much better than what people seem to give him credit for. Hamilton is a massive benchmark and it's not like he is choking ultra hard.

Gimi on the other hand is just a pure, unfliltered meme

>yfw GIMI gets another season at Ferrari

what THE fuck now I am corrupted

fuck off

What sort of man has a blurred finger?

>getting this turbomad even though Massa moved out of the way completely, knowing you couldn't have overtaken anyway

>turbomad

*Finnmad

>blaming Bottas for "being slow" during this race

He had an engine that was down on power before it blew up anyway, damaged suspension (left wheel wasn't quite straight meaning increased tyre wear, less straight line speed, less grip and having to hold the wheel not quite straight either which hampers you in the corners) and the team put him on a one-stop strategy so that he'd hold Vettel up after the first pitstop phase. He might've had more damage too, Toto wasn't clear.

Daryl?

I'm not black.

I like Bottas. He seems to be doing a solid job. Whether or not he's as good as Lewis remains to be seen.

Couldn't agree with you more on Kimi though - he's just a waste of a seat at this time, sadly.

It just seems as if he's as frustrated as last year. Lewis must be getting to him.

>Sochi literally impossible to follow or overtake a car at despite having a fuck off long straight and generally a pretty easy layout
>Barcelona is completely fine even with harder tires despite being a highly technical circuit with long sweeping corners and a slow mechanical grip section along with a notoriously non-driver friendly final corner

Someone please explain this meme to me. How can "difficult to overtake" Barcelona be more friendly for these cars than carpark Sochi on ultrasofts? I actually don't understand it. I get that Barcelona sees more racing so the track is more rubbered in but still.

Did not see the race, could someone green text please?

Buttas ruined the race by breaking 50m earlier for turn 1

t. #TeamVB77

honestly, just fuck off

it's so fucking clear you're black, and you want ham to fuck you up the arse

You so nearly had proper cheeky quads there lad

Ultrasofts = overheat when you try to push and get close to another car

Softs/Mediums = don't overheat as easily, harder so last longer = drivers can push without much deg

This is true. T1 was fully his fault though, surprised he didn't get a penalty for effectively ruining 2 drivers' races. Then again the stewards seem to have a "fuck it" approach this year as long as it's not related to ignoring bollards when rejoining a track.

Just a bit too greedy overall. I wouldn't relegate him into a total Massa/Barrichello role just yet

better track surface in Barcelona

>replying to an obvious low effort troll

>multi-reply autist is back

what a day

>T1 was fully his fault though
t. Kimi literally driving into him was fully okay and Bottas should have just driven off the track and stopped to let everyone else go by
Valtteri had his right wheels completely on the kerbs, just like Mexico 2015. Kimi's fault if you want to apportion blame.

I guess living in a council estate does terrible things to you.

Most of the overtakes seemed to take place on the pit straight. I would put down to a greater understanding of the track, and the longer DRS zones.

>Implying I'm trolling
>Implying I'm autistic

A fine ad hominem you have there.

I read once that tyres consume themselves more easily in slower curves. So Pirelli decided to use ultrasoft ones to give enough grip but less durability in Sochi and soft and medium ones in Barcelona.
Technically soft ones are way more durable and work well especially in a track after 40 laps

Everyone deserves (you)s though friend

why are brit bongers the most autistic posters in these threads?

Try harder at at least getting dubs my friend. You just have to believe the big trips & quads & maybe, just maybe quints will come to you. Yes they will come to you

I'm not autistic.

Replying in an articulate manner, attempting to hold reasoned discussion, and calling out racists and animefags is not generally a sign of autism.

You on the other hand...

Issues caused by the large-scale inbreeding within both the immigrant and native population

British people are honestly so fucking retarded unless they are in a weird upper-middleclass category that they have enough money to not be retarded but not so much money that they end up retarded
Supersoft-Soft-Medium for all tracks then. Hard is practically useless and Ultra is a meme aside from maybe Monaco

it's only the blacks and the asians that are inbred

mostly, it's just the case that inner city scum are thick as bricks

Your grumpiness will be the end of you friend

>All these ABH's trying to work out why Vettel lost ITT

Hammy is just ELITE lads face it

No, the opposite is true. Long, high speed corners like Curva Grande or Sochi turn 3 cause more degradation because the tyre is slipping more, generating more friction and more heat, both increasing the tyre temperature and grating rubber off like cheese.

Of course, in 40km/h hairpins, where downforce is non-existent, you have plenty of tyre slip too, but it's at a lower speed and travelling less distance so there's not as much in total.

>Supersoft-Soft-Medium for all tracks then. Hard is practically useless and Ultra is a meme aside from maybe Monaco
I think at Baku teams will be free to choose their own set of tyres, but anyway Ultrasoft are not a meme. Take for example that piece of shit of track of Abudabi: since you have low downforce you must use this set to achieve higher grip, or Monaco even if probably they'll go with supersoft and ultrasoft

Agreed.

He had one race off, now he's going to win. Vettel won't be able to keep up.

Yet more racism.

Am I going to have to remind you of the >>>/rules/ , or just that you need to go back to ?

>I'm not autistic
lol

...

Shit you nearly got HAM trips there lad

If you would watch any anime what woudl it be friend?

I mean tangential stresses degrade more the tyres than longitudinal ones. Obviously is the tyres slips more on the side this will affect the durability of it as you said. This happens generally in slower curves or in those where you have lower downforce. Sochi is full of those kind of curves as well as Monaco or Abudabi

im still waiting for someone to tell me WHY ferarri didn't fucking pit under VSC once they saw merc show their hand by bringing out the crew to do a change a full lap early?

guys, can we not feed the fucking multi-reply hamilton autist?

sorry for the grammar :D

Is F1 2016 game actually any good or what?

The check from Mercedes went through

Janitor lad if you're actually her give us a wave

perfect filename

>her
Here even*

What's his problem?

Brain damage caused by a spring to the face.

he just wants to be friends but Sebastian is scared of him

He's a Brazilian - so there's not much to discuss

pieces of spring in the head
pstd after 2008

Not really

I mean it's ok but the AI is fucking terrible (really aggressive and forceful in the overtakes, will spin you out when you block them etc), tire deg is a meme, slipstream is insanely powerful, career mode is not particularly fun. There's endless menus and shit and if you want to make your car competitive you have to do these insanely boring resource point gaining things where you essentially just drive the track with various different objectives. The career mode honestly has so little racing its almost like real F1

The cars are also not particularly fun to drive IMO

he needs to just fucking retire

This.

Senna literally killed the spirit of that country for good.

>puncture on lap 1
>gazillion seconds behind everyone else
>ends up finishing 3 positions ahead of teammate who had trouble-free race aside from self-inflicted problems

Granted Stroll is not a high benchmark but he is actually severely ripping this kid a new asshole, which isn't too bad he was supposed to be memeing it in Formula E this year

youtube.com/watch?v=Be3-J9XtJCw

Well fug

>hamilton has a big cock
y/n?