ARGENTINA

What happened?

What the fuck am I even looking at

It shows how Argentina used to be rich at the start of the 20th century, but slow declined afterwords.

Is it good to be higher on the chart?

It's good to be higher on the graph yes


anyway Argentina was mainly destroyed by military coups and oligarchical power grabs like most of South America.

The people running the country didn't care about the good of the nation only about how much money they could squeeze out of the working class.

Argentina is basically what happens when you don't have a successful industrialization model. Since the 1930's we started but never finished a single industrialization model and we are still basically a country that live of commodities.

I could discuss this in a more detailed manner but basically we are the history of failure in the industrialization tale in the polar opposite of Japan and Korea.

>blaming industralization
>implying it was not working until fascist / socialist governments made hiring so expensive and dangerous that the industries either mechanized or left the country
>don't forget the hyperinflation too that makes business calculus barely impossible

Si, peronista. Blame the model. We just need another law and we will prosper.

Remember the Falklands.

hardcore american liberal capitalism followed by socialism

I am not a peronist you idiot. But the truth is that not a single government here ever decided to follow up an industrialization model that lasted more than 5 years.

The truth is that in the 30's and up to 55 there was a plan of industrialization and was kinda working then we got a military coupe that hated Peron so much that even the good shit Peron did weren't worthy. Shit they almost closed the National University of Engineering (a public school that basically focus on engineering studies where every citizen can study engineering and not pay a single dime for it) 3 times after that only because it was founded by Peron (despite the fact that the political leaning of the university was always center-right).

Industrialization in the country was never achieved and then governments will start to industrialize but the following governments will do jack shit or just destroy what the others did.

>educating engineers to plant seeds and collect crops

Face it, that was a brain drain school.

My grandfather was himself an "argentinian engineer".

Economic retardation, federal gridlock, Catholicism, fascism that only implemented the bad parts of fascism.

your talking about the u.s. right ?

Are you retarded? The UTN is a great school that still provides almost half of the engineer population in the country, I don't think you could say that UBA is a better school when it comes to teaching engineering and UBA is among the best of Latin America.

I've heard my share of legends about the argentinian engineers and the wonders they've achieved with the tax payer's money.

Look at how modern the country is.

International students are even coming to Argentina just to become engineers instead of going to Germany and Japan. Fuck those countries!

Argentina is white superpower by 1950.

Remember the argentinian engineers.

I don't know what you are talking about. We don't have an engineer problem in the country shit if you talk with anyone that knows about this place it will tell you that we still produce to few of them. The quality isn't also an issue since the projects here usually always tend to find solutions on the local pool of engineers rather than hiring from outside. And the quality isn't a problem either since the 3 most requested engineers are always graduates from either the UTN, UBA or ITBA (the only private college that is worth something)

>Brazil in charge of understanding history
>Libertarian faggot

Colonialism and Econ. Imperialism was rampant from the start; Our highest echelons ALWAYS were either foreing agents or scumbags traitors that worked restlessly to destroy any and all national sovereign in turn of higher profit.

San Martin desire was to actually unify Chile and Peru to make an South American Empire to counter the advance of the British Empire circa 1817; He actually succeed to liberate those zones but those god damn traitors denied him the reinforcements needed in the last part of the campaign (They were reluctant to send Reinforcements at Chile.) and levied fake charges against him, so once finished the campaign and the injustices of the faggots at the time he just self-exiled.

Smear campaigns against anything that wanted to institute National Sovereign in our fledgling nation was common place.


>The truth is that in the 30's and up to 55 there was a plan of industrialization and was kinda working we got a Military coup
Yeah funny that one of the first moves of a military government was to DESTROY Military Industries and rollback 1949 Constitution Amend that explicitly limited foreign enterprises rights in the country among other things.

Argentinians happened

>mfw

They can't just handle the bantz

>blaming the evil foreign enterprise who made the country bearable in the early 20th century for the primitive industry
>still wonders why the country is miserable
>doesn't question why would foreigners use the 20th century argentinian currency that loses 800% of its level a month after in a manner no asset yield can compensate the loss

Brazil is the modern country which imports the least. Where is the brazilian superpower?

Isolated indian populations don't have the savings (capital) to build massive capital goods. You can teach your argentinian engineers Calculus III, IV and V but if all they have to work with is a taxi, you just wasted the people's cash with brain drain candidates.

This is so similar to Brazil it is not even funny. Argentina upsets all white supremacism memes. That is how pathetic it is.

Also:

>paying internationally meaningless free engineering courses to high middle class cucks
>falling for the industrialization meme
>doesn't realize Hong Kong and Australia are commodities countries and are not poor

socailism

>New Zealand and Australia*

Wow, a country full of niggers and shitskins failed.

You guys need more diversity, ever thought about importing some whites? You badly need some

Fellow leaf, that will be Canada after weedman is done destroying the economy

Argentina loved ww1 and Brazil was oblivious to ww2. I am a Data Analyst.

>Shit talking about Argentina History
>Doesn't know about colonialist British Kikes Backroom deals (Roca-Runciman)
Where the fuck do you think you are, you filthy monkey

>doesn't question why would foreigners use the 20th century Argentinian currency that loses 800% of its level a month after in a manner no asset yield can compensate the loss

I wonder who is behind that move, who benefits the most of that exchange, Oh wait I know who... It's the privately owned foreign export industry that reaps without sowing or paying.

Literally this fucking retard minister of economics during the military Junta, that's when hiperinflation started.
Then fucking retards during democracy years. The country could have been saved at this point, but then the real decline started in the 80's with the worst inflation ever recorded in our history. Then it got better in the 90's and then the Kirchners, the most corrupt and ineficient politicians in history, wasted all the money from the soy boom and now we are near recession.
We are in a critical point now, where Macri has two options:
-Try something new
-Follow pic related steps
I really like the guy so I hope he can save us from repeating the same mistake, because we are in the verge of hiperinflation again.

Btw whoever says it's Peron's fault is either underage or hates his guts too much (the guy was an asshole but he wasn't stupid).

Over reliance on commodity exports and failure to invest in industrialization.

nice quads

>>Doesn't know about colonialist British Kikes Backroom deals (Roca-Runciman)
Shall I remind you that the great depression was just 4 years prior to Roca-Runciman?
At that point we were losing our main trade partner, UK, which turned its back from us in favor of its Commonwealth partners (btw, that's when canada and australia started being a thing) The situation was desperate.

>believing charts from The Neoconist

They tried to estimate GDPs of modern countries in 1 AD. That should tell you to throw them in the trash immediately

Argentinians, what do you think of Macri? Will things change?

No.

Your shitheaded socialist commies who like shitting money out of their presses for themselves, for their political legacy and to pay for the education of high middle-class engineers.

As shown by the replies of this thread.

>failure to invest in industrialization.
That's wrong, read some Argie history after the great depression, (during something called "Decada Infame") that's when heavy industrialization begun. It's amazing what those guys pulled in only a decade. It lasted until late 70's, matching the begining of the fuck ups.

>Will things change?
No. It's cyclical.

Peronism-> accidentally the economy-> liberalism/center/right-> sort of fix -> fuck the shit up -> peronism comes back in its rightist or leftist form -> waste the money created by the other government -> accidentally the economy... then repeat ad infinitum.

It won't be easy, but there's no point in being pessimistic.
The good thing is Cristina was more of a fuck up with politics than with economics (and that's saying a lot), she pratically destroyed peronism and left it shattered, so there's no chance something like that can return in the near future. Macri has his back covered in that regard.

Argentina isnt even written on the fuckng thing faggot.

It is. It's comparing Argentina's GDP per capita to the GDPs per capita of other countries. Are you a dumb nigger who can't understand things?

Wasn't it Peronism (Whatever that is) ?

>ARGENTINA
> What Happened edition

too many whites

If I had to guess, it's because they failed to modernize due to speaking Spanish. While French, English, German could all exchange ideas and technology, Argentina got to be in the club with Spain and South America and they all collectively got left behind. Then in the 70s when other places like Japan and Korea got lifted up by Western investment, South America was busy trying socialism and missed that boat too.

Their population increased, next.

nigga none of that makes sense

Import substitution economic policy
Huge tariff walls designed to encourage domestic industry, only slowed economic growth and stagnated efficiency gains and effectively locked Argentina (and South America generally) out of the world economy and left them behind for a long time.

How stupid are you?

no, look how the countries that lost ww2 spiked there

Increasing population

Interesting hypothesis user

No, he's just another corrupt shithead that, the only difference is that he preaches free market instead of local industrization.
We'll still have massive inflation, shitty jobs, expensive services and welfare.

Oh and massive taxes, I thought this faggot would at least lower taxes since he got rid of subsidies.